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August 04, 2015, 05:56:14 PM |
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I just read this: http://www.finance-guy.net/finblog/how-will-you-spend-your-bitcoin/10/8/2014Makes an interesting point. If we buy stuff with BTC and the company just sells it for cash right away, it's probably not good for the BTC price. What do you think? Will shopping with BTC be good or bad for BTC?
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August 04, 2015, 06:01:28 PM |
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At this particular moment, I think the BTC rates are a joke. I don't know if in countries like United States it's the same, but here (Romania) i had 580RON worth of BTC and was only able to buy of 545RON. That is like a $10 difference. I will never buy with Bitcoins again until it won't be such a big difference from buying with my credit card. I could've saved like 20RON if I exchanged them into fiat then purchased.
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August 04, 2015, 06:03:40 PM |
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Spending it can only make it increase in value. Being more well known for spending it on goods and services that the average person can use it for. Having it becoming more popular is a plus. Now just waiting for it's adoption on paying the electricity bill and rent.
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August 04, 2015, 06:10:36 PM |
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I think its good if we spend bitcoin into buying stuff as this will make it flow more into the market and it will keep it more alive
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August 04, 2015, 06:49:31 PM |
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gladly I can say that I do spend my bitcoin lol there are plenty of retailers that accept bitcoin and there are plenty of incentives to using bitcoin like discounts and more lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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August 04, 2015, 06:55:59 PM |
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If we buy stuff with BTC and the company just sells it for cash right away, it's probably not good for the BTC price. What do you think? Will shopping with BTC be good or bad for BTC?
That is only one part of the cycle. After we spend it, we should buy bitcoins back on the exchanges. The net effect on price is cancelled out and we promote bitcoin acceptance along the way.
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August 04, 2015, 06:56:13 PM |
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I always thought it would be a good thing for BTC if retailers all over the world were accepting it. Dont we want it recognized as currency?
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August 05, 2015, 01:04:23 AM |
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For every spender there must be 100 or 1000 holders out there, I think the net effect of these coins leaving the economy are most likely negligible.
My policy, spend a little each month to support retail adoption, small price to pay but feels like I'm contributing some more to adoption.
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August 05, 2015, 01:11:35 AM |
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I don't have a whole lot of bitcoin so I just hold onto it. For my daily expenses, I don't really have an option to use bitcoin as a method of payment locally anyways, so those transactions remain in fiat.
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August 05, 2015, 01:32:10 AM |
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I have just spend some mbtc in fasttech site, I love it!
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August 05, 2015, 02:22:14 AM |
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I thought there are also some businesses that don't convert all of their Bitcoin earnings into fiat straight away?
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August 05, 2015, 02:34:18 AM |
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I occasionally spend Bitcoin, I found it easier at times especially online. If I do spend Bitcoin I will usually replace what I spent, either ahead of or right after the purchase, so my balance always stays even in BTC.
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August 05, 2015, 03:36:12 AM |
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I thought there are also some businesses that don't convert all of their Bitcoin earnings into fiat straight away?
Yes, mine.
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Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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August 05, 2015, 03:43:39 AM |
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the idea about bitcoin is "saving" not spending.. i always advise people not to hold FIAT for 5-10 years as $10 today may buy 8 loaves of bread, but in 10 years it may not even buy you one.. so spend FIAT and convert excess into bitcoin to hold.
after all a bitcoin in 2010 wouldnt have bought you a crumb of a pizza.. but now just 1bitcoin can buy you 10 large pizza's..
in short: fiat: inflationary=spend as soon as you get btc: deflationary= save until it can buy you more thing then its original purchase value
as for what companies do.. such as those that are linked through bitpay.. those conversions do not affect the bitcoin price on the many public exchanges. simply because bitpay do private swaps and funds never touch the public exchanges, thus dont affect public prices
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August 05, 2015, 03:48:29 AM |
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I think its good if we spend bitcoin into buying stuff as this will make it flow more into the market and it will keep it more alive
Not only that it also creates a demand for the bitcoins and this will increase bitcoin price as well. If more people or business holds bitcoin then price also will be more stable. Otherwise if only trader holds the bitcoins then the price will be always moving up and down.
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August 05, 2015, 04:24:19 AM |
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I think its good if we spend bitcoin into buying stuff as this will make it flow more into the market and it will keep it more alive
Not only that it also creates a demand for the bitcoins and this will increase bitcoin price as well. If more people or business holds bitcoin then price also will be more stable. Otherwise if only trader holds the bitcoins then the price will be always moving up and down. I guess that explain why recently the price of bitcoin has went up and down on many times already as there are many who use trading as their source of earning
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August 05, 2015, 06:06:24 AM |
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Yeah, he has a great point. But this immediate conversion to cash is more probably when the price of bitcoin is volatile and new. This article was written a year ago, I wonder if this guy has a different opinion. Bitcoin certainly feels a bit more "regular" now that it did a year ago, less foreign or obscure.
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August 05, 2015, 06:34:11 AM |
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as for what companies do.. such as those that are linked through bitpay.. those conversions do not affect the bitcoin price on the many public exchanges. simply because bitpay do private swaps and funds never touch the public exchanges, thus dont affect public prices
Ok, This I did not know... thanks for that tid bit of information. Do you have a source or is this inside information? I have a small rule for Bitcoin spending... Save 80% and spend 20% .... If we want Bitcoin to grow as a currency, we have to allow for some of it to go back into the system. How do people use a currency, if 100% of a currency are hoarded, nobody would accept BTC as a payment method. In a sense, this is what is happening now already... the price is low, and a lot of people are not spending it... but rather waiting for the price to increase. It's hurting adoption... because most merchants expected a huge increase in sales, and now people are hoarding. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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August 05, 2015, 07:26:40 AM |
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as for what companies do.. such as those that are linked through bitpay.. those conversions do not affect the bitcoin price on the many public exchanges. simply because bitpay do private swaps and funds never touch the public exchanges, thus dont affect public prices
I have a small rule for Bitcoin spending... Save 80% and spend 20% .... If we want Bitcoin to grow as a currency, we have to allow for some of it to go back into the system. How do people use a currency That's a good rule. If you ever want to spend bitcoin on Amazon and save 20% then check out my website bitcart.io thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 05, 2015, 07:29:56 AM |
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not directly spend
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