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October 12, 2015, 08:27:40 PM
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There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here.  I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal?  Isn't it just frowned upon?  How do they actually know you are counting cards as well?  Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

Yes, I never have been in a real life casino.

It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin

There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out.

So if you win most of the time they might think you are cheating?  I know several people who play Blackjack at a casino here and I have seen them walk away up 2,000 dollars in less than 2 hours.  They have gone back multiple times I know, and have won multiple times.  Any reason why they are not getting into trouble?

"Multiple times." How many times is multiple? They don't care if you win here and there. They care if you're taking $10k+ a day every day from various casinos. You're confusing luck with exploitation.

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October 12, 2015, 08:36:11 PM
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There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here.  I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal?  Isn't it just frowned upon?  How do they actually know you are counting cards as well?  Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

Yes, I never have been in a real life casino.

It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin

There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out.

So if you win most of the time they might think you are cheating?  I know several people who play Blackjack at a casino here and I have seen them walk away up 2,000 dollars in less than 2 hours.  They have gone back multiple times I know, and have won multiple times.  Any reason why they are not getting into trouble?

"Multiple times." How many times is multiple? They don't care if you win here and there. They care if you're taking $10k+ a day every day from various casinos. You're confusing luck with exploitation.

Well usually he goes on streaks, so he will go about 3-4 times a month and probably profit around 6,000 for the month.  Usually does this for about 3-4 months then takes a break.  He won't tell me how he wins all the time but I promise you he wins more than he loses.
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October 12, 2015, 08:48:53 PM
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Well usually he goes on streaks, so he will go about 3-4 times a month and probably profit around 6,000 for the month.  Usually does this for about 3-4 months then takes a break.  He won't tell me how he wins all the time but I promise you he wins more than he loses.

It likely isn't from counting -- just playing odds. Most casinos use 6 decks now, and reshuffle at the 25% mark. You would have to sit there for many hours just to get an edge to show up, and it'd be too obvious if you sit there watching for hours until there's an uneven amount of high/low cards, then play for a few hands, and sit out for a few more hours.

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October 15, 2015, 01:56:26 PM
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There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here.  I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal?  Isn't it just frowned upon?  How do they actually know you are counting cards as well?  Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

Yes, I never have been in a real life casino.

It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin

There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out.

So if you win most of the time they might think you are cheating?  I know several people who play Blackjack at a casino here and I have seen them walk away up 2,000 dollars in less than 2 hours.  They have gone back multiple times I know, and have won multiple times.  Any reason why they are not getting into trouble?

Continuous wins are watched with eagle eyes in every Casino.
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October 15, 2015, 02:15:11 PM
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Continuous wins are watched with eagle eyes in every Casino.

That is very right. Just like the movie oceans 13 where there is a monitor where they will see if you are a real winner. Your ecstatic face, excitement, heartbeat, eye dilation etc etc... That's the way they control the winners.

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October 15, 2015, 02:22:14 PM
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Continuous wins are watched with eagle eyes in every Casino.

Really. Actually I do not this one. But I think it is normal. There can be really huge mount money on the table. Sometimes million dollars can bet for the winning.

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October 15, 2015, 03:42:49 PM
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There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here.  I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal?  Isn't it just frowned upon?  How do they actually know you are counting cards as well?  Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

Yes, I never have been in a real life casino.

It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin

There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out.

So if you win most of the time they might think you are cheating?  I know several people who play Blackjack at a casino here and I have seen them walk away up 2,000 dollars in less than 2 hours.  They have gone back multiple times I know, and have won multiple times.  Any reason why they are not getting into trouble?

Continuous wins are watched with eagle eyes in every Casino.

They probably will use them as market to attract more players that will lose much more than the lucky one won.

Like: "see this dude that turned 10 btc into hundreads, come, you can be the next.". I think everyone already received an email like this from some casino
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October 15, 2015, 05:42:00 PM
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They probably will use them as market to attract more players that will lose much more than the lucky one won.

Like: "see this dude that turned 10 btc into hundreads, come, you can be the next.". I think everyone already received an email like this from some casino

This is also why slots in casinos are so loud when you win (any amount) and ridiculously loud if you hit a jackpot. It gives the sense of happiness to you, and the jackpot brings in bigger bettors.

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October 15, 2015, 07:14:53 PM
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well i dont use any strategies if i gamble as it does not help me to win anything on dice because of that i usually try not to play any bitcoin games at all

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October 15, 2015, 07:46:25 PM
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i sometimes use some strategies such as martingale but it doesnt really help me to win big amounts of money
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October 15, 2015, 08:27:22 PM
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i sometimes use some strategies such as martingale but it doesnt really help me to win big amounts of money

Yes, there is no real strategy for dice as its very difficult to beat the house. As per me its impossible to make any strategy in the dice as it is a game of odds and how can you plan something. One thing you can do is that you can play more and more if you have enough bankroll but there are chances of loosing your entire bankroll.
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October 15, 2015, 08:46:38 PM
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There is no strategy in dice which can work all the times.All is your luck to hit some big and right streaks.I succeeded to make few times some good amount once 0.072BTC and this was from giveaway of 1mbtc.I just placed bets sometimes 1 satoshi and on some hands all in and made withdraw in couple of minutes.
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October 15, 2015, 08:47:29 PM
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Anyone that found a real long term strategy with low profits to apply? Interested in knowing if someone studied a new method
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October 15, 2015, 08:48:18 PM
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Anyone that found a real long term strategy with low profits to apply? Interested in knowing if someone studied a new method

No. The math itself shows that it's impossible.

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October 15, 2015, 09:20:17 PM
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Anyone that found a real long term strategy with low profits to apply? Interested in knowing if someone studied a new method

No. The math itself shows that it's impossible.

nothing impossible, i know there is a good strategy that could work in long term.
we just not yet find it. i personally playing with my bankroll against the "time" and "long term" itself.
so far working well, when i dropped to negative i try to not recover it faster but slowly.
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October 15, 2015, 09:22:07 PM
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Anyone that found a real long term strategy with low profits to apply? Interested in knowing if someone studied a new method

No. The math itself shows that it's impossible.

nothing impossible, i know there is a good strategy that could work in long term.
we just not yet find it. i personally playing with my bankroll against the "time" and "long term" itself.
so far working well, when i dropped to negative i try to not recover it faster but slowly.

Math doesn't lie. You're playing against -EV. It's not a slot machine that has to pay out x amount, it's a system that is based entirely on math.

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October 15, 2015, 11:57:15 PM
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Anyone that found a real long term strategy with low profits to apply? Interested in knowing if someone studied a new method

No. The math itself shows that it's impossible.

nothing impossible, i know there is a good strategy that could work in long term.
we just not yet find it. i personally playing with my bankroll against the "time" and "long term" itself.
so far working well, when i dropped to negative i try to not recover it faster but slowly.

Math doesn't lie. You're playing against -EV. It's not a slot machine that has to pay out x amount, it's a system that is based entirely on math.

Yah, in fact this calculation has been done by very very intelligent people who works out all the possible ways to prove that it is a -ve EV and as you can see from all the gambling site, they all are making money. If someone really manage to find it, he/she would have cleared all the bankrolls in all the btc casino already. and i believe tons of smart people will research on that, however they all already know already that it is impossible cause they r smart enough to calculate that already.
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October 16, 2015, 08:30:10 AM
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Anyone that found a real long term strategy with low profits to apply? Interested in knowing if someone studied a new method

No. The math itself shows that it's impossible.

nothing impossible, i know there is a good strategy that could work in long term.
we just not yet find it. i personally playing with my bankroll against the "time" and "long term" itself.
so far working well, when i dropped to negative i try to not recover it faster but slowly.

Math doesn't lie. You're playing against -EV. It's not a slot machine that has to pay out x amount, it's a system that is based entirely on math.

Exactly, as long as the bets are independent and each bet has a negative EV. So, unless the hash function is found to have problem (for example, a problem affecting avalanche effect and hence affecting independence), there cannot be a strategy giving you a positive EV.

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October 16, 2015, 12:26:01 PM
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Anyone that found a real long term strategy with low profits to apply? Interested in knowing if someone studied a new method

No. The math itself shows that it's impossible.

nothing impossible, i know there is a good strategy that could work in long term.
we just not yet find it. i personally playing with my bankroll against the "time" and "long term" itself.
so far working well, when i dropped to negative i try to not recover it faster but slowly.

Math doesn't lie. You're playing against -EV. It's not a slot machine that has to pay out x amount, it's a system that is based entirely on math.

That´s the main point of it, everything here is math based.
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October 16, 2015, 12:42:52 PM
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Either find some kind of way to manipulate the dice rolls or deposit your coins select whatever multiplyer you fancy press bet all and close your eyes and click roll.
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