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There is no guarantee that if you have a lot of money they can get a trophy. Because the EPL competition is very difficult to predict, even a very low club can become an EPL champion. And you have to remember that there is one trophy won by MU, the Best Grass. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Chelsea were crap & rarely won anything before Abramovich & his money. Man City were a joke before the Sheikh & his state funded money. Money doesn’t guarantee success but it goes a long way towards guaranteeing it. I really agree with this, with the money of a club, it's easier to win a league title because you can buy many quality players and also great coaches. But not all clubs can get a league title with only money. Even those who have spent a lot of money to buy players but don't get titles / trophies. And I have to admit that having a lot of money is an advantage of being able to buy top players.
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It's difficult for Gareth Bale to get out of Real Madrid because the release clause is very expensive I think other clubs can only "borrow" Bale from Real Madrid for several seasons. Since he is not that valuable to the team I am sure Real would accept a lower offer to release him. Especially since he receives a big salary. Real has spent a lot of money already on new signings so they will have to sell a few players now to be in accordance the UEFA Financial Fair Play regulations.
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June 21, 2019, 10:29:32 AM |
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There is no guarantee that if you have a lot of money they can get a trophy. Because the EPL competition is very difficult to predict, even a very low club can become an EPL champion. And you have to remember that there is one trophy won by MU, the Best Grass. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Chelsea were crap & rarely won anything before Abramovich & his money. Man City were a joke before the Sheikh & his state funded money. Money doesn’t guarantee success but it goes a long way towards guaranteeing it. I really agree with this, with the money of a club, it's easier to win a league title because you can buy many quality players and also great coaches. But not all clubs can get a league title with only money. Even those who have spent a lot of money to buy players but don't get titles / trophies. And I have to admit that having a lot of money is an advantage of being able to buy top players. if a rich club can't win a league or any other championship I think it's because of a problem in the club management section, in other leagues this often happens in some big clubs.
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June 21, 2019, 10:44:11 AM |
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It's difficult for Gareth Bale to get out of Real Madrid because the release clause is very expensive I think other clubs can only "borrow" Bale from Real Madrid for several seasons. Since he is not that valuable to the team I am sure Real would accept a lower offer to release him. Especially since he receives a big salary. Real has spent a lot of money already on new signings so they will have to sell a few players now to be in accordance the UEFA Financial Fair Play regulations. maybe that would be the last option if the club management and Gareth Bale did not find an agreement, if Real Madrid were willing to release Gareth Bale at a cheaper price maybe there would be many other clubs that recruited Bale.
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June 21, 2019, 10:58:19 AM |
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Bale is not going out on a loan move his agent has already clarified this, he claims that Bale is well settled in Spain and has no intention of quitting Real Madrid. He might not want to leave Real but if Real doesn't want him around anymore and he is not in their team plans for next season it wouldn't make much sense to stick around. The only reason he would try to force a stay is the big salary he receives and that he surely wouldn't get elsewhere. It's difficult for Gareth Bale to get out of Real Madrid because the release clause is very expensive I think other clubs can only "borrow" Bale from Real Madrid for several seasons. Real Madrid isn't used in borrowing players they either sell the high or retire them 😂
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^ Yup. It's all about the money these days... That's why the most impressive club that balances their books well is Bayern Munich. Speaking of which, Bale could go there on loan. I hope it happens.
Bale is not going out on a loan move his agent has already clarified this, he claims that Bale is well settled in Spain and has no intention of quitting Real Madrid. ^ And try winning something with no money. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Leicester did it... But we all know it was a fluke. Even Tottenham is having a hard time winning something. And if they don't spend big money this summer, they'll risk losing Poch. Leicester didn’t win by fluke as they had excellent players, and smart tactics which led them to winning the premier league. Tottenham chairman needs to spend atleast $100 million, to keep Poch or next season he’ll go to Manchester United. Source: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2841658-gareth-bales-agent-loan-move-away-from-real-madrid-not-going-to-happenThen why weren't they able challenge for the EPL title again since? They could've at least consstently fought for a top 4 spot every year if it wasn't a fluke.
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Bale is not going out on a loan move his agent has already clarified this, he claims that Bale is well settled in Spain and has no intention of quitting Real Madrid. He might not want to leave Real but if Real doesn't want him around anymore and he is not in their team plans for next season it wouldn't make much sense to stick around. The only reason he would try to force a stay is the big salary he receives and that he surely wouldn't get elsewhere. It's difficult for Gareth Bale to get out of Real Madrid because the release clause is very expensive I think other clubs can only "borrow" Bale from Real Madrid for several seasons. Real Madrid isn't used in borrowing players they either sell the high or retire them 😂 I think a loan to a club like Bayern Munich is very likely to happen. Real Madrid have to some how balance the books at the end of the day
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June 21, 2019, 07:44:16 PM |
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if a rich club can't win a league or any other championship I think it's because of a problem in the club management section, in other leagues this often happens in some big clubs.
as you understand not only money play football. you can but star players but they won't be a star team and average team could beat them.
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if a rich club can't win a league or any other championship I think it's because of a problem in the club management section, in other leagues this often happens in some big clubs.
as you understand not only money play football. you can but star players but they won't be a star team and average team could beat them. Leicester won it through skill, determination & great play but the fact that it was Pep’s first season had a lot to do with it. Klopp came mid season, Arsenal, Chelsea & United were & still are a shadow of their former selves. Leicester totally deserved it but let’s not pretend they were an amazing team. City & LFC are much, much better teams hence the points totals. Leicester won it in 2015/16 with 81 points. Liverpool came 2nd last season with 97 points, City won it with 98. It’ll never happen again in our lifetime that a team like Leicester wins it with so few points, literally all the big teams underperformed & were in transition.
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June 22, 2019, 03:45:33 AM |
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if a rich club can't win a league or any other championship I think it's because of a problem in the club management section, in other leagues this often happens in some big clubs.
as you understand not only money play football. you can but star players but they won't be a star team and average team could beat them. it's not everything in football about money, but you have to look thoroughly that a financially good club will have a greater chance of winning a league or other trophy.
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if a rich club can't win a league or any other championship I think it's because of a problem in the club management section, in other leagues this often happens in some big clubs.
as you understand not only money play football. you can but star players but they won't be a star team and average team could beat them. it's not everything in football about money, but you have to look thoroughly that a financially good club will have a greater chance of winning a league or other trophy. Right. There is a slight chance on a poor club winning a title. Rich clubs are the ones bidding on superstars and good players. Having good players and superstars means a lot either on winning a title or having its stock rise in prices.
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June 22, 2019, 04:10:03 AM |
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Bale is not going out on a loan move his agent has already clarified this, he claims that Bale is well settled in Spain and has no intention of quitting Real Madrid. He might not want to leave Real but if Real doesn't want him around anymore and he is not in their team plans for next season it wouldn't make much sense to stick around. The only reason he would try to force a stay is the big salary he receives and that he surely wouldn't get elsewhere. It's difficult for Gareth Bale to get out of Real Madrid because the release clause is very expensive I think other clubs can only "borrow" Bale from Real Madrid for several seasons. Real Madrid isn't used in borrowing players they either sell the high or retire them 😂 I think a loan to a club like Bayern Munich is very likely to happen. Real Madrid have to some how balance the books at the end of the day but there has been no discussion about this from Bayern Munich or I was missed to read this rumor? I think nowadays there are many clubs that try to borrow Bale from Real Madrid because Real Madrid does require income.
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if a rich club can't win a league or any other championship I think it's because of a problem in the club management section, in other leagues this often happens in some big clubs.
as you understand not only money play football. you can but star players but they won't be a star team and average team could beat them. it's not everything in football about money, but you have to look thoroughly that a financially good club will have a greater chance of winning a league or other trophy. We have great examples that teams don't need money to win titles. One example is Liverpool who won teams with bigger budgets and the other example is Ajax of course. Ajax showed in European football that you don't need money but just talent to be competitive.
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June 22, 2019, 06:58:09 AM |
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if a rich club can't win a league or any other championship I think it's because of a problem in the club management section, in other leagues this often happens in some big clubs.
as you understand not only money play football. you can but star players but they won't be a star team and average team could beat them. it's not everything in football about money, but you have to look thoroughly that a financially good club will have a greater chance of winning a league or other trophy. We have great examples that teams don't need money to win titles. One example is Liverpool who won teams with bigger budgets and the other example is Ajax of course. Ajax showed in European football that you don't need money but just talent to be competitive. Indeed money isn't everything but money plays a very important role in bringing players with good talent into a team. In addition, the team needs bench players who have qualities not far from the core players because of the long competition which of course susceptible for injury. Without qualified bench players, of course the team trip will be a little hampered.
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June 22, 2019, 07:11:12 AM |
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maybe that would be the last option if the club management and Gareth Bale did not find an agreement, if Real Madrid were willing to release Gareth Bale at a cheaper price maybe there would be many other clubs that recruited Bale. The problem again is his high salary and the demands he would have from the new club. That doesn't leave him with many options. The top 5-6 English clubs who can afford him, PSG who don't really need him and probably nobody from Spain or Italy who would be interested.
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if a rich club can't win a league or any other championship I think it's because of a problem in the club management section, in other leagues this often happens in some big clubs.
as you understand not only money play football. you can but star players but they won't be a star team and average team could beat them. it's not everything in football about money, but you have to look thoroughly that a financially good club will have a greater chance of winning a league or other trophy. We have great examples that teams don't need money to win titles. One example is Liverpool who won teams with bigger budgets and the other example is Ajax of course. Ajax showed in European football that you don't need money but just talent to be competitive. Indeed money isn't everything but money plays a very important role in bringing players with good talent into a team. In addition, the team needs bench players who have qualities not far from the core players because of the long competition which of course susceptible for injury. Without qualified bench players, of course the team trip will be a little hampered. You are right mate. Money can bring success for sure, but it doesn't guarantee it. It just increases the chances of winning a title if you have good players in the pitch and out of it.
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maybe that would be the last option if the club management and Gareth Bale did not find an agreement, if Real Madrid were willing to release Gareth Bale at a cheaper price maybe there would be many other clubs that recruited Bale. The problem again is his high salary and the demands he would have from the new club. That doesn't leave him with many options. The top 5-6 English clubs who can afford him, PSG who don't really need him and probably nobody from Spain or Italy who would be interested. Gareth Bale would not be a great signing right now, his age & persistent injuries have to factor. He would want really high wages too, it’s a good idea to steer clear imo.
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June 22, 2019, 11:28:22 AM |
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if a rich club can't win a league or any other championship I think it's because of a problem in the club management section, in other leagues this often happens in some big clubs.
as you understand not only money play football. you can but star players but they won't be a star team and average team could beat them. it's not everything in football about money, but you have to look thoroughly that a financially good club will have a greater chance of winning a league or other trophy. We have great examples that teams don't need money to win titles. One example is Liverpool who won teams with bigger budgets and the other example is Ajax of course. Ajax showed in European football that you don't need money but just talent to be competitive. You're wrong, the two clubs you mentioned have financial health. Rich clubs are not just buying players but also how they buy training support equipment and more. if the club is financially healthy (rich) they will be able to focus on how to manage player development.
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maybe that would be the last option if the club management and Gareth Bale did not find an agreement, if Real Madrid were willing to release Gareth Bale at a cheaper price maybe there would be many other clubs that recruited Bale. The problem again is his high salary and the demands he would have from the new club. That doesn't leave him with many options. The top 5-6 English clubs who can afford him, PSG who don't really need him and probably nobody from Spain or Italy who would be interested. Gareth Bale would not be a great signing right now, his age & persistent injuries have to factor. He would want really high wages too, it’s a good idea to steer clear imo. Gareth Bale will be happy to sit on the bench all season whilst collecting his monstrous paycheck, but obviously Real don't want that. Most clubs won't want to pay a lot for him because of the problems you said, but also because they won't want to pay the wages and there's very few clubs that can even afford to do so. Real should look to loan him out and get what they can for him if they're not going to play him as they're just pissing money away in the process. I'm sure some club would be willing to pay a portion of his wages and it's better than nothing. If he plays well and remains injury free then they could make an offer for him but I really can't see any club coughing up the amount Bale will want in wages and I doubt he'll leave Real for less than he's getting now as financially it doesn't make sense, though I'm sure he would like to get some game time but at what cost? I think he would be a good fit for United. If that rumoured deal was true about swapping Pogba for Bale and a few other players I think they should take that but doubt it'll happen. If Zidane has no intention of playing Bale (even though I think that's silly) then they need to offload him ASAP.
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maybe that would be the last option if the club management and Gareth Bale did not find an agreement, if Real Madrid were willing to release Gareth Bale at a cheaper price maybe there would be many other clubs that recruited Bale. The problem again is his high salary and the demands he would have from the new club. That doesn't leave him with many options. The top 5-6 English clubs who can afford him, PSG who don't really need him and probably nobody from Spain or Italy who would be interested. Gareth Bale would not be a great signing right now, his age & persistent injuries have to factor. He would want really high wages too, it’s a good idea to steer clear imo. Gareth Bale will be happy to sit on the bench all season whilst collecting his monstrous paycheck, but obviously Real don't want that. Most clubs won't want to pay a lot for him because of the problems you said, but also because they won't want to pay the wages and there's very few clubs that can even afford to do so. Real should look to loan him out and get what they can for him if they're not going to play him as they're just pissing money away in the process. I'm sure some club would be willing to pay a portion of his wages and it's better than nothing. If he plays well and remains injury free then they could make an offer for him but I really can't see any club coughing up the amount Bale will want in wages and I doubt he'll leave Real for less than he's getting now as financially it doesn't make sense, though I'm sure he would like to get some game time but at what cost? I think he would be a good fit for United. If that rumoured deal was true about swapping Pogba for Bale and a few other players I think they should take that but doubt it'll happen. If Zidane has no intention of playing Bale (even though I think that's silly) then they need to offload him ASAP. Like Real, all other clubs know, that is Bale so expensive player and no one want to pay him a big salary. I can't find any reason from any club to buy him when a club like Real have a problem with his big salary. Also, I think, Bale is a first-class player and he easy can play well in next season. I remember a similar situation with Beckham in Real Madrid. He will be without big pressure and they can provide excellent performance. especially now after many changes in the team. Manchester United have the same problem with Alexis, I don't think they want another similar player with a big salary and injuries problems.
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