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Question: How would you want the new s-5+ to be sold  (Voting closed: August 12, 2015, 04:24:27 PM)
just the way it is 7700gh/3450watts - 10 (17.5%)
Just the center piece/controller/ 2550gh/1150watts - 25 (43.9%)
opt 2 with add-on left right s-5+ so you could do 5100/7700 - 11 (19.3%)
add on a controller free s-7 option in 2 months - 3 (5.3%)
be able to add-on s-5+ or s-7 - 8 (14%)
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August 09, 2015, 04:24:27 PM
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Okay

option 1  antminer sells it the s-5+ as is a 7700gh 3400 watts beast for 3000usd+
option 2  antminer sells the center section as stand alone with the controller  about 2550gh/1150 watts
option 3  antminer sells the center section/controller with an option to addon left right  pieces  so 2550/5100/7700
option 4  antminer sells the center section/controller with an option to addon left right pieces of the s-7 in early oct



Fun poll   since we have nothing better to do.

It also could let antminer know what we would buy more of.

I would be willing to buy a center piece and do a review of it.

Note I don't want a free one.  But I would only want the center piece and controller if they would part with one. So I could review it.

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August 09, 2015, 04:31:55 PM
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I voted 1 time :

to be able to add an s-5+ right away  or an s-7 piece later.

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August 09, 2015, 04:35:45 PM
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Do you think the s7 will be compatible with this s5+? If the s7 is a totally diff chip and controller it might not be possible
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August 09, 2015, 04:39:29 PM
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Full disclosure: Voted "Just the center piece/controller/ 2550gh/1150watts", but I wonder how the noise is like on these things.

If (dare-to-dream) these are as quiet as the S2's or S3's, I would be awfully tempted in picking up a bunch to replace all my underclocked-S3's, S5's and SP20's.
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August 09, 2015, 04:55:27 PM
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just make it 2 or 3 new boards and call it s5+

that thing is not s5+.... is an s6- or something like that
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August 09, 2015, 05:05:54 PM
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Just for fun... want to get a couple of those beasts....
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August 09, 2015, 05:09:37 PM
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Voted option 1 as well! MMMM only if i had enough cash to get my hands on couple of thousands Cheesy
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August 09, 2015, 07:56:44 PM
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Personally i'd like just individual units. The thoughts of linking them together isint bad, however... It might just become a pain if you need to separate them and the sides can't do anything without the center. So you'd have 3 unit goes down with a single point of failure. I think i'll stick to S5's for now. Hopefully this loosen some S5 that someone can sell me after they get these. (lol)

So if i could have it my way, i'd take them as a real S5+, a single unit.
Full disclosure: Voted "Just the center piece/controller/ 2550gh/1150watts", but I wonder how the noise is like on these things.

If (dare-to-dream) these are as quiet as the S2's or S3's, I would be awfully tempted in picking up a bunch to replace all my underclocked-S3's, S5's and SP20's.

Yeahhh, you wish. That single middle unit thing drain 4time the power of a S3. ^_^"



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August 10, 2015, 02:14:01 AM
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If they did break it up in the way you proposed, I would imagine that the middle (controller) cube's efficiency numbers are going to be much more like they are with the S5.  Right now the overhead of the BB and the FPGA are spread across  all 3 cubes - but now it would be just the one.  At which point, you might as well just pick up some S5's. 

I think it's best either beast-mode S5+ or just plain old S5's...
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August 10, 2015, 04:43:48 AM
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If they did break it up in the way you proposed, I would imagine that the middle (controller) cube's efficiency numbers are going to be much more like they are with the S5.  Right now the overhead of the BB and the FPGA are spread across  all 3 cubes - but now it would be just the one.  At which point, you might as well just pick up some S5's.  

I think it's best either beast-mode S5+ or just plain old S5's...


yeah, 0.44 vs 0.51 is a small difference anyway
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If they did break it up in the way you proposed, I would imagine that the middle (controller) cube's efficiency numbers are going to be much more like they are with the S5.  Right now the overhead of the BB and the FPGA are spread across  all 3 cubes - but now it would be just the one.  At which point, you might as well just pick up some S5's. 

I think it's best either beast-mode S5+ or just plain old S5's...


What do you expect the controller's consumption to be, like 10W (ex fans)?

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Just for fun... want to get a couple of those beasts....

 I wish I had the kind of money available to say that.

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August 10, 2015, 09:20:24 AM
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philipma wrote about the fact that it is worth looking into buying s5 instead of s5+ . Looking at the price.
And here we have a new deal to s5 . Only 352 USD ( 1.323 BTC) .
It seems that the weight of the parcel jumped to 4.2kg . They can now sell a version with small heatsinks or I missed something ?
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What do you expect the controller's consumption to be, like 10W (ex fans)?

The BB should be low, like < 10w when it's up and doing things, but the FPGA could gobble up a decent amount of power depending on what they're using it for.  Obviously fans are a hit to efficiency as well, but I wouldn't consider them part of the CPU costs since they're blade-specific in this case.  FWIW, if they're the same fans as on the S5 I was just doing some power tests with them the other day, they consume about 0.20 amps at 110v (full power) - so if this thing has 6 fans, you're talking 1.2amps for fans alone, or almost 10% of the overall power consumption.
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August 10, 2015, 11:26:59 AM
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Just for fun poll,  i choose option 2
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Last edit: August 10, 2015, 04:10:33 PM by philipma1957
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If they did break it up in the way you proposed, I would imagine that the middle (controller) cube's efficiency numbers are going to be much more like they are with the S5.  Right now the overhead of the BB and the FPGA are spread across  all 3 cubes - but now it would be just the one.  At which point, you might as well just pick up some S5's.  

I think it's best either beast-mode S5+ or just plain old S5's...


size matters  the center piece is almost the same size as  1 s-5 and does 2x the hash.


BTW  if the 3 pieces do 3450 watts  each 1 does 1140 and 30 watts for the controller  .  so the middle piece would do   1140 + 30 or 1170 watts

if the entire thing does 7750 gh 1 does 2583   so 1170/2583 =

.4529  s-5+   vs    .51 or .52  s-5

so you are off by a lot.

And I am certain 1 middle piece would ship far better then 3 piece set.

and If a  order 1 center piece today  and I center piece a week later  I have 2 controllers  when I only need 1.

How many 'my controller is dead posts' are on this site?  I have no idea but I bet there are hundreds.

It is a fun poll and bitmaintech may read it , but they sell how they want to sell.
I know the center piece would sell well.

I am on record as wanting one from them at a reasonable price 900  and a 5 page review is reasonable to my way of thinking. I would be open to an offer on their part


This would sell and sell better then as  three piece beast.

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August 10, 2015, 04:14:30 PM
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August 10, 2015, 04:33:40 PM
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How about option 6?  The "I'm not giving Bitmaintech another satoshi or red cent".

It blows my mind that people are still buying HW, let alone from these clowns.
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How about:

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There's nothing to suggest, beyond speculation, that a BM1386 actually exists. The S5+ suggests that Bitmain has plenty of BM1384 parts for now.
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August 10, 2015, 06:14:18 PM
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How about option 6?  The "I'm not giving Bitmaintech another satoshi or red cent".

It blows my mind that people are still buying HW, let alone from these clowns.
Whom else is there to buy hardware from currently? Their competition hasn't made a new product in a long time and we are desperate for new miners.

Also if your power costs are low the s-5 at 352 can earn a profit for many miners.

I would argue bitmaintech is not the terrible villain people think they are.

Diff has had slow steady growth mostly due to bitmaintech not blowing out s-5's at 310 usd a piece.

While my mind wonders what btc would be like if the Asia builders kept selling to the public at decent prices

I do not think the current status is all that bad.

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