BitBatFan (OP)
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August 12, 2015, 08:14:45 AM |
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I updated sheet, but still can't find many data... - I left fortunajecks deposit to instant, because 10 seconds is almost nothing if we compare it to 10 minutes (1 confirmation) - Can't find moneypot cold wallet - Safedice house edge is 50% if you bet maximum. Added dicenow and peerbet. Peerbet cold wallet is missing. Directdice website is almost without any info, I'm not adding them unless they provide me any Added minimum withdrawal. Dicesites.com helped me a lot, but still many things are missing Website is not in plan currently, but maybe I'll create it someday. Thank you all for helping!
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Coef
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August 12, 2015, 08:23:07 AM |
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I updated sheet, but still can't find many data...
- I left fortunajecks deposit to instant, because 10 seconds is almost nothing if we compare it to 10 minutes (1 confirmation) - Can't find moneypot cold wallet - Safedice house edge is 50% if you bet maximum.
Moneypot's current cold wallet is 1NinE5MNy64iUE6zBdJ2fJ2tfQrRs2ERpm. Reference: https://www.moneypot.com/proof-of-assets.txtSafedice's max house edge is 10%. Reference: https://safedice.com/faqWhat is Variable House Edge?
-snip- If a player wants to win more than 0.25% of the bankroll in a single bet, he can play under a higher edge. The house edge is in accordance with the max win, if a player wants to have a max win of 0.5% bankroll, he will be playing under a 1% house edge, we use a 0.5 Kelly system, so the house edge will always be twice of the max win ratio to the bankroll. The house edge is capped at 10%, so the max win under the variable house edge system is 5% of the bankroll. -snip-
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arallmuus
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August 12, 2015, 08:27:36 AM |
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- I left fortunajecks deposit to instant, because 10 seconds is almost nothing if we compare it to 10 minutes (1 confirmation) Im not asking you to change the deposit in fortunejack but asking you to change their withdrawal status because their withdrawal is definitely not instant . I dont know if the bolded part is a typo or not but you listed their deposit as 1 confrmation which is true and AFAIK no site will let you withdraw at 0 confirmation. So just to make sure that we are on the same page for the word "instant withdrawal". what do you mean by instant withdrawal actually? for me it is when the TX ID will be shown immediately after I initiate the withdrawal or atleast the coins was moved instantly after I initiate it .Fortunejack doesnt have that and definitely not instant - Can't find moneypot cold wallet Here it is https://www.moneypot.com/proof-of-assets.txtPeerbet cold wallet is missing.
No published cold wallet address either in dicesites.com
On a side note, SafeDice max profit is 54.7 BTC currently but it was listed 292 in the spreadsheet References : http://dicesites.com/
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shitaifan2013
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August 12, 2015, 08:40:09 AM |
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- I left fortunajecks deposit to instant, because 10 seconds is almost nothing if we compare it to 10 minutes (1 confirmation) Im not asking you to change the deposit in fortunejack but asking you to change their withdrawal status because their withdrawal is definitely not instant . I dont know if the bolded part is a typo or not but you listed their deposit as 1 confrmation which is true and AFAIK no site will let you withdraw at 0 confirmation. So just to make sure that we are on the same page for the word "instant withdrawal". what do you mean by instant withdrawal actually? for me it is when the TX ID will be shown immediately after I initiate the withdrawal or atleast the coins was moved instantly after I initiate it .Fortunejack doesnt have that and definitely not instant - Can't find moneypot cold wallet Here it is https://www.moneypot.com/proof-of-assets.txtPeerbet cold wallet is missing.
No published cold wallet address either in dicesites.com
On a side note, SafeDice max profit is 54.7 BTC currently but it was listed 292 in the spreadsheet References : http://dicesites.com/it is 54.7 BTC at lowest HE, and 292 BTC at 10% HE
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BitBatFan (OP)
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August 12, 2015, 09:00:39 AM |
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@arallmuus It was a typo for deposit... I meant withdrawal I added note that instant means if it's processed in 20 seconds or less.
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NLNico
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August 12, 2015, 09:08:19 AM |
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On a side note, SafeDice max profit is 54.7 BTC currently but it was listed 292 in the spreadsheet References : http://dicesites.com/it is 54.7 BTC at lowest HE, and 292 BTC at 10% HE Actually I used the highest other HE (SatoshiDice with 1.9%) to calculate the max profit of SafeDice (seemed fair to me.) So BTC54.7 is based on 1.9% HE. Currently the max is BTC14.3 based on the lowest 0.5% HE.
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shitaifan2013
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August 12, 2015, 09:24:09 AM |
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On a side note, SafeDice max profit is 54.7 BTC currently but it was listed 292 in the spreadsheet References : http://dicesites.com/it is 54.7 BTC at lowest HE, and 292 BTC at 10% HE Actually I used the highest other HE (SatoshiDice with 1.9%) to calculate the max profit of SafeDice (seemed fair to me.) So BTC54.7 is based on 1.9% HE. Currently the max is BTC14.3 based on the lowest 0.5% HE. aight i see, thanks honestly i didnt check the two numbers flying around in here, was more some kind of wild extrapolation.
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arallmuus
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August 12, 2015, 09:29:37 AM |
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@arallmuus It was a typo for deposit... I meant withdrawal I added note that instant means if it's processed in 20 seconds or less. If this is so then dicecoin, safedice and pocketdice should be listed with instant as well because they do process it "instantly" according to what you mean as instant. Most site process withdrawal after 1 confirmation atleast and funds will be transfer either instantly or in few seconds which is pretty common sense as no site will let you withdraw before 1 confirmation so putting 1 confirmation there is pretty much vague imo On a side note, it seems the downside of using spreadsheet is that the max win of some site will be pretty much outdated because it doesnt update automatically . Im not an expert with spreadsheet but could the spreadsheet be made with some formula that will follow the bankroll of each site? Currently BetterBets has a maximum win of 3.07 BTC EDIT : nvm Im a fool, it cant be done On a side note, SafeDice max profit is 54.7 BTC currently but it was listed 292 in the spreadsheet References : http://dicesites.com/it is 54.7 BTC at lowest HE, and 292 BTC at 10% HE Actually I used the highest other HE (SatoshiDice with 1.9%) to calculate the max profit of SafeDice (seemed fair to me.) So BTC54.7 is based on 1.9% HE. Currently the max is BTC14.3 based on the lowest 0.5% HE. Thanks for the thorough explanation !
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Dennis7777
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August 12, 2015, 10:26:55 AM |
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You forgot to put SatoshiDice in your list. Also, for FortuneJack, the faucet can only be claimed every 60 seconds even when your balance is < 10 satoshi.
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BitBatFan (OP)
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August 12, 2015, 01:06:37 PM |
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Added satoshidice, but don't know what's max bet? In spreadhseet I can't auto update max bet, but I don't see this so important to be up to date. I'll be updating this once per week, or month. In this time it will change for +-0.2 BTC. I'll check again about instant withdrawals/deposits
Mostly I'm missing minimum withdrawal and max bets per second in autobet mode.
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arallmuus
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August 12, 2015, 01:31:15 PM |
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Added satoshidice, but don't know what's max bet? Max bet is different from max profit. If you are looking for max profit then it is 18.3 BTC but if it is max bet then it varies according to the multiplier and also the max profit References : http://dicesites.com/In spreadhseet I can't auto update max bet Yes you cant, figured it out myself. Sorry for asking something impossible to be done. Im kinda fool in spreadsheet but I don't see this so important to be up to date. This is pretty much important . The title is a comparison of dice websites and max profit in one site is indeed needed for comparison as some people would love to play in a site that could offer them a higher limit of max profit but at this moment I assume this cant be done to keep on updating the max profit because it simply depends on the bankroll of the site which could be more or less then the time it was last updated I'll be updating this once per week, or month. In this time it will change for +-0.2 BTC. Whichever that suits you better because it will be lot of workload to keep on changing it each time investment drop or increase . This is a downside of using spreadsheet though nothing can be done in this early stages
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August 12, 2015, 06:14:16 PM |
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Primedice is actually using a max payout of 20 btc, rather than a max win. For a x2 bet, your bet size can only be 10 btc as you will get back 10*2=20 btc if you win. Similarly, for a x1.02 bet, your bet size can only be 19.6 btc.
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DirectDice
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August 12, 2015, 07:20:20 PM |
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Directdice website is almost without any info
Hi BitBatFan, Thank you for your message We sent you all Direct Dice info for the spreadsheet. Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions or if you need anything else. Thanks a lot ! All the Best, Michelle www.DirectBet.eu
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Monopoly
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August 12, 2015, 09:10:05 PM |
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Great job man ..... i need something like this .................. i saw some sites that i never seen them before ........... keep updating
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BitBatFan (OP)
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August 13, 2015, 11:17:35 AM |
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Added directbet, except waiting for answer when can house edge of 0.49% be reached. Still need to fill max bets per second. Lets fill this together
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DirectDice
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August 13, 2015, 02:33:37 PM |
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Added directbet, except waiting for answer when can house edge of 0.49% be reached. Still need to fill max bets per second. Lets fill this together Hi BitBatFan, Thank you for adding us Direct Dice built in house edge is 0.99% and you can earn up to 0.5% back through our VIP Rewards program : www.DirectBet.eu/VIP.cshtmlIn addition, we offer 10 BTC Jackpot on the house, so once you factor in the Jackpot the house edge is essentially even lower. Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions. Thanks a lot ! All the Best, Michelle www.DirectBet.eu
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BitBatFan (OP)
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August 13, 2015, 02:50:52 PM |
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Ok, thanks. I'm writing flat house edge, not with bonuses, rewards, vip programs, jackpots etc.
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BitBatFan (OP)
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August 14, 2015, 09:20:13 AM |
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Still gathering informations Waiting answer from peerbet about cold wallet. They have invest option, but no proof of funds
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tsoPANos
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August 14, 2015, 10:18:52 AM |
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Wow nice list you got there! How much time did it take to complete? Do you mind adding any missing casinos like coinroyale.com
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BitBatFan (OP)
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August 14, 2015, 10:40:31 AM |
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Wow nice list you got there! How much time did it take to complete? Do you mind adding any missing casinos like coinroyale.com It did take couple of hours. Can you provide me all the info about dice game on coinroyale?
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