cellard
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August 12, 2015, 03:04:37 PM |
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I ran Bitcoin Core for >3 years, and I turned it off today
I am now running Bitcoin**Censored** As a Legendary member you are here since the beginning. Why did you turn it off? Did you lose faith in Bitcoin? Im guessing he is now a supporter of XT? Either this or he got tired of running a node and is using a SPV type of wallet.
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TinEye
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August 12, 2015, 03:18:13 PM |
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I ran Bitcoin Core for >3 years, and I turned it off today
I am now running Bitcoin**Censored** As a Legendary member you are here since the beginning. Why did you turn it off? Did you lose faith in Bitcoin? no man, he turned if off because he now devoted to XT, this what i get from the original post, he switched to bitcoin xt, everyone will switch eventually it's only a matter of time i don't think we have a choice, the fork will be mandatory, but i don't know what will happen to your coin if you do not switch, pehaps there is the possibility to have useless coins
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LiteCoinGuy
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August 12, 2015, 03:27:20 PM |
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I ran Bitcoin Core for >3 years, and I turned it off today
I am now running Bitcoin**Censored**
oh oh....you mean.....the "X" ? please dont say that here you can talk about that "alt" (lol!) somewhere else.
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RappelzReborn
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August 12, 2015, 03:30:24 PM |
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why all this fear guys , if we could import our private keys or wallet backups to the the new bitcoin client (u know the name ) then why all this fear of losing coins and having useless coins , if majority switch then we should all switch it's that simple
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LiteCoinGuy
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August 12, 2015, 03:43:40 PM |
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pedrog
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August 12, 2015, 04:02:32 PM |
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Isn't XT Gavin's proposal?
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jl2012 (OP)
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August 12, 2015, 04:15:00 PM |
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You know how Chinese people survive under the oppressive Great Firewall? They will replace those "keywords" with *** and the stupid firewall won't find it.
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newflesh
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August 12, 2015, 04:29:45 PM |
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Most people in /r/bitcoin has zero idea of the implications XT would cause
Pretty much this, any comment that isn't following the XT agenda gets downvoted to oblivion on reddit. so bitcoin xt is censored?
Nope it just altcoins belong in Altcoin Discussion. Simple as that
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thejaytiesto
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August 12, 2015, 04:32:03 PM |
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Most people in /r/bitcoin has zero idea of the implications XT would cause
Pretty much this, any comment that isn't following the XT agenda gets downvoted to oblivion on reddit. so bitcoin xt is censored?
Nope it just altcoins belong in Altcoin Discussion. Simple as that So it's seems this is ending up in a Bitcoin talk (Core) vs Reddit (XT) sort of war? Kinda sad to see I think. Can't we really reach some common ground?
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Meuh6879
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August 12, 2015, 09:29:06 PM |
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bitcoin XT not introduce block increase size ... bitcoin XT introduce query about UXTO for specific task like crowfunding or others associates smart-contract. when the time comes, bitcoin CORE evolve with block size increase ...
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spazzdla
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August 12, 2015, 09:31:34 PM |
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why all this fear guys , if we could import our private keys or wallet backups to the the new bitcoin client (u know the name ) then why all this fear of losing coins and having useless coins , if majority switch then we should all switch it's that simple You won't lose your coins.. You'll actually double up. You'll have coins on QT and XT.
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johnyj
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August 13, 2015, 02:33:03 AM |
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Core chain is time-tested, it's a fake conclusion, even if it was been tested as safe enough, fair enough, but the transactions proceeding speed is so slow as I can't consider it as one qualified pay method. While the community is not so large, we should import some changes to improve bitcoins, even we may get some pains in the near future.
Some payment processors like Visa and Mastercard claim that they can do several thousand transactions per second, but that is because those transactions are all done in their own server, like in an exchange. I believe those bitcoin exchanges can also do several thousand transactions per second, or even millions like Nasdaq. In fact there are already large amount of transactions done in exchanges. Transaction on blockchain is totally a different thing, its like transaction between different banks. And we all know that banks do settlements between each other only once a day, and not during weekend and holiday. From this point of view, bitcoin's transaction speed is already the fastest on earth, it can do settlements between any different institutions in 10 minutes, 24/7. This kind of efficiency has never happened in banking history The most important thing is: Bitcoin is first a monetary system, then a payment network. For a monetary system, the most important thing is stability. Have you ever seen FED change the version of USD every few years? When FED issue USD in QE3, they issue 85 billion per month, and they might do a couple of transactions per month, that's all. Their tps is close to 0 Decentralized does not necessary mean distributed, a fully distributed network will have exponentially increased resource consumption following user base expansion. Raise the block size means going towards a distributed model, which will increase the resource consumption by magnitudes, this need to be very careful planned
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iCEBREAKER
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August 13, 2015, 06:29:57 AM |
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I ran Bitcoin Core for >3 years, and I turned it off today
I am now running Bitcoin**Censored**
Censored? I've been here participating in discussions about XT for months. Your vanity post seeking social validation for standing up to Evil Core and Theymos-Hitler is so precious, I made you a meme:
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August 13, 2015, 06:33:14 AM |
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what i find silly is that their only problem with XT isn't Xt per se, but they only hate the fact that it is done in a centralized way, because proposed from one man only, they do not want to feel controlled by one guy, this is their primarely concern because a part from this they have no reason to go against XT, really...
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August 13, 2015, 06:38:54 AM |
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what i find silly is that their only problem with XT isn't Xt per se, but they only hate the fact that it is done in a centralized way, because proposed from one man only, they do not want to feel controlled by one guy, this is their primarely concern because a part from this they have no reason to go against XT, really... My concern is that those two people are using their authority to push controversial changes (let the economy decide, lol) while the others are using their authority to not let them do so. Technical debate is happening also, but what most people see is authority. This is politics, that's my primary concern.
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jl2012 (OP)
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August 13, 2015, 06:52:14 AM |
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I ran Bitcoin Core for >3 years, and I turned it off today
I am now running Bitcoin**Censored**
Censored? I've been here participating in discussions about XT for months. Your vanity post seeking social validation for standing up to Evil Core and Theymos-Hitler is so precious, I made you a meme: Try opening a post with the censored keyword in title. One has been moved to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1150450
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iCEBREAKER
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August 13, 2015, 06:54:45 AM |
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i think this is a turning point.
yes quote me on this.
The losses of nodes over the past 2 months (from the previous ATH) have been gained back and then some in 3 days time.
Like technical analysis on markets this too is in a sense, a market.
ATH is a clear sign of things to come.
I'll be switching over today as well.
This is a turning point. The point where XT officially became a laughingstock. After so much chaos and drama, you have a mighty 3% of the nodes to show for it? Team XT lost the technical debate, and there is zero propensity for XT gaining an economic majority. Plus, we now have this handy Domination Post from thermos: Activating a hardfork based on what miners do is really bad. You could easily have a situation where 75% of miners support XT but none of the big Bitcoin exchanges or businesses do. Then miners would start mining coins that they couldn't spend anywhere useful, and SPV users would find that they can't transact with the businesses they want to deal with. The currency would be split, and in this case XT would be in a far weaker position than Bitcoin. The possibility of this sort of network/currency split is what makes XT not a "legitimate hardfork", but rather the programmed creation of an altcoin. A consensus hardfork can only go forward once it has been determined that it's nearly impossible for the Bitcoin economy to split in any significant way. Not every Bitcoin user on Earth has to agree, but enough that there won't be a noticeable split.
Bitcoin is not ruled by miners. In a hardfork, miners barely matter at all. (Softforks are different.) What's important is what the economy does.
Face it old buddy, XT got rekt like Stannis at Winterfell. Now, when can I order my 1000 XMR 1oz Platinum Lealana? Do you want Cryptonic to eat your lunch?
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August 13, 2015, 07:28:57 AM |
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why did you stop after 3 years...and you running for Bitcoin*Censored* ??
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August 13, 2015, 07:40:56 AM |
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Bitcoin XT sounds more like Crypto-Paypal than anything else.
~BCX~
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