Windows 10 and Bitcoin Discussion

[Kakmakr]

You can always multi-boot with another version of Windows or boot up with Tails when you want to use your Bitcoin stuff. This is not a big issue, so just carry on and use Windows 10 for all other non Bitcoin related stuff.
I sometimes wonder how many of the existing versions of Windows has the same backdoors that we just do not know about.

We are all suckers to these proprietary software companies. 

[Derek492]

Switch to Linux

Stick with Open source software.

Try Linux Mint

[Amph]

keep using windows 7 or 8.

you can't do it forever, what if they drop the support in the future, actually it is certain, as it happened with windows xp, you will be running a very unsecure software with your bitcoin client

at the same time, i feel less secure in holding coin on windows 10 because of this anti-privacy crap, even if the system is 100 secure erased before installing everything

I have windows 10 and all my wallets in the pc

do I have to worry ?

No if you want to be more careful though go to the search function and type in privacy settings, there you can make sure to turn everything off and you'll be no different then using a previous version. Microsoft won't risk millions of dollars and flop their newest OS by stealing Bitcoin wallets.

this is true only because bitcoin has a tiny market cap, but what if one is holding 100k bitcoin with a value of 100k each, it would be 10B, microsoft market cap is 340B if they can find 34 guy wallet like that or bitcoin reach 1M per coins one, i'm sure something will change

well you can always do the offline trick for your cold storage....

[OmegaStarScream]

When windows 7 came out, users complained that the network tray icon doesn't blink to show activity, a freeware utility came out to solve that. Windows 8 didn't have a classic start button, freeware solved that too. So I think the privacy problem will also be solved by a freeware utility soon. Wait a couple of months and someone will release one.

Couple of months?
A executable script that fixes all concerns came out within days of release.

https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/releases

Can we trust this script more than we trust Windows?

Well look here : https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking
It's open source as you can see and it was released on many websites including the famous forum MalwareTipes and since it's open source if professionals on programming detected that someone is bad that would've say . I guess no need to worry about it .

[lottery248]

so, anyone here uses non-windows operating system?
i am using my new computer which is raspberry pi, raspbian.
i am safe from those bugs.

keep using windows 7 or 8.

you can't do it forever, what if they drop the support in the future, actually it is certain, as it happened with windows xp, you will be running a very unsecure software with your bitcoin client

at the same time, i feel less secure in holding coin on windows 10 because of this anti-privacy crap, even if the system is 100 secure erased before installing everything

I have windows 10 and all my wallets in the pc

do I have to worry ?

No if you want to be more careful though go to the search function and type in privacy settings, there you can make sure to turn everything off and you'll be no different then using a previous version. Microsoft won't risk millions of dollars and flop their newest OS by stealing Bitcoin wallets.

this is true only because bitcoin has a tiny market cap, but what if one is holding 100k bitcoin with a value of 100k each, it would be 10B, microsoft market cap is 340B if they can find 34 guy wallet like that or bitcoin reach 1M per coins one, i'm sure something will change

well you can always do the offline trick for your cold storage....

i mean apparently, not forever, have to apologise that forgetting to put "apparently" in it.

[tadakaluri]

I have windows 10 and all my wallets in the pc

do I have to worry ?

No if you want to be more careful though go to the search function and type in privacy settings, there you can make sure to turn everything off and you'll be no different then using a previous version. Microsoft won't risk millions of dollars and flop their newest OS by stealing Bitcoin wallets.

Yes, you are right.  I hope there is no risk using BTC Wallet in Windows 10 without changing any thing.

[BitUsher]

When windows 7 came out, users complained that the network tray icon doesn't blink to show activity, a freeware utility came out to solve that. Windows 8 didn't have a classic start button, freeware solved that too. So I think the privacy problem will also be solved by a freeware utility soon. Wait a couple of months and someone will release one.

Couple of months?
A executable script that fixes all concerns came out within days of release.

https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/releases

Can we trust this script more than we trust Windows?

It is simple 227 line open source script.. that is extremely easy to audit.

https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/archive/v1.5.zip

Of course you can trust it as many of us have reviewed it.

The problem with this is the fact that in the past Microsoft has re-enabled the "default settings" on certain patches, thus you would still need to keep an eye on it long term to make sure it doesn't become accidentally undone.

True, but this has always been the case and thus why you need to keep patching the patches with open source scripts like above. Hopefully someday in the future Linux will finally get better support for software and drivers where this isn't necessary. 

[rinhunter]

still stay in windows 7 or 8.
Windows 10 recently launched, wait at least 1 or 2 years for windows 10 become better again

[Derrike]

Microsoft have downgraded it's operating systems after windows 7(in my opinion) and Windows 10 is also in my ignore list.
Why is the feature of sharing your wifi password with friends on Facebook is present in it
Currently Linux operating systems are evolving very fast but you said Linux I not for you.

[BillyBobZorton]

I have windows 10 and all my wallets in the pc

do I have to worry ?

Mmm, im not sure, unless you are someone's target or something, i don't think so, but for a better peace of mind, I would at least go back to Win7, resist with Win7 until either there's a way to get rid of all the NSA shit on Win10 or just go Linux and use Win for gaming only if you are into that.

[Derrike]

Microsoft have downgraded it's operating systems after windows 7(in my opinion) and Windows 10 is also in my ignore list.
Why is the feature of sharing your wifi password with friends on Facebook is present in it
Currently Linux operating systems are evolving very fast but you said Linux I not for you.

Windows 8.1 is fine, I hated the idea of windows 8 at first but after throwing classic shell on it and making sure I never see that metro screen it is a true upgrade to 7, now 10 is just fine as well. Every time there is a new Windows release expect to hear something bad about it and people say they will upgrade in months (then they never do and that is how we still have people on XP).

Yes, Windows xp is legendary and works perfectly on my old computer having my cold wallet.

[BitUsher]

Yes, Windows xp is legendary and works perfectly on my old computer having my cold wallet.

Anyone running wallet software on windows xp is playing a very dangerous game. XP is no longer supported or being patched and is extremely vulnerable to malware, viruses and trojans. If you don't want to upgrade to 7 or 10 thats fine... run linux or ubuntu... but for goodness sake get rid of XP as you are endangering yourself and others around you.

If you are using XP as a cold wallet offline device that is fine as long as you physically remove all wifi cards and disable the network adapter, and be extremely careful about what memory sticks or sd cards you attach to the laptop. Than again , why not just get a SSS paper wallet , hardware wallet, or cheap raspberry pi instead for your cold wallet?

[LiteCoinGuy]

i will try to avoid that shit as long as i can  #

Ubuntu is my friend.

[thejaytiesto]

i will try to avoid that shit as long as i can  #

Ubuntu is my friend.

I was considering Ubuntu myself but apparently Ubuntu isn't fully safe, it had some advertisement in-built on there that could be considered if not spyware then maybe adware or something the lines. What about other distros? can anyone recommend a distro that is easy to use?

[flock123]

I think it might be better to use windows 7 pc if we have indeed had a low speed

[Derrike]

Yes, Windows xp is legendary and works perfectly on my old computer having my cold wallet.

Anyone running wallet software on windows xp is playing a very dangerous game. XP is no longer supported or being patched and is extremely vulnerable to malware, viruses and trojans. If you don't want to upgrade to 7 or 10 thats fine... run linux or ubuntu... but for goodness sake get rid of XP as you are endangering yourself and others around you.

If you are using XP as a cold wallet offline device that is fine as long as you physically remove all wifi cards and disable the network adapter, and be extremely careful about what memory sticks or sd cards you attach to the laptop. Than again , why not just get a SSS paper wallet , hardware wallet, or cheap raspberry pi instead for your cold wallet?

kk fine, and thanks.
But that pc doesn't have any wifi card inbuilt.
An I will surely upgrade that system to Windows 7 but need to buy a new ram. So going to shop from Amazon.

[btcxyzzz]

One killer word for all of your Windows concerns: Linux. I'm not even considering looking at new Windows versions. Spy system for the government(s).

[funkenstein]

One killer word for all of your Windows concerns: Linux. I'm not even considering looking at new Windows versions. Spy system for the government(s).

Sounds like everytime a new version of windows comes out the tinfoil stocks must be skyrocketing, were talking about security for average user and the things Windows notifies you that they will be doing and all have a disable option.

No matter your OS I am sure the government has a large list of vulnerabilities they use via multiple ways to attack and you not notice.

I'm also sure every lock is breakable, that's why I just leave all my valuables outside the door. 

[TransaDox]

Companies like M$, Google and Apple want you to share everything. They do everything they can to make it easy for your to share everything. Recently, they have taken steps to make it extremely difficult for you to prevent their software from sharing all your stuff. It is a short update away from forcing you to send everything through their servers for scrutiny if you don't share enough willingly.

On the other hand, they want to share nothing. They will take you to court if they catch you sharing their stuff. They force you to accept thousands of words in agreements you cannot understand, written by lawyers who are employed specifically to relieve you of your rights while giving them rights over you. They sell the information they accrue to people who can harass or even imprison you but you cannot know who has it or what it is used for.

Food for thought.

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[TheIrishman]

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