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April 29, 2016, 09:16:46 PM
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Probably hiding from the lawyers of all the folks their blatant obvious scam ripped off.
I wish people would let this thead DIE.


Nope, this should be a warning sign for all others buying cupouns and paying in front, good lesson for learning. One guy, in the german thread, lost 35k€, i think he learned and burned  Roll Eyes

I know one guy personaly he lost in 5 times more
And I know existing people who lost more than 300k.
people with such money even didnt write here

35k not the record.

Lawyers lawyers. Sorry guys but you didnt understand one thing.

let I will explain how it is with your lawyers.
Firstly do not forget, he has more money than you. And accordingly he may hire a lawyer is much better. And in the economic
crimes 99% solve lawyer, and yes, in Germany there CORUPTION at a very high level. as an everywhere. These tales leave children.

Second, well, all together they have filed a complaint with the Court of Justice. Good. All with their lawyers. Good
Suppose you win the case, for example, found him guilty of ... let's say. Okay, and then what?
If he is not a fool, but he's no fool - money he will not return.
Passwords on Bitcoins or cash carefully hide from everyone.
Well, fine, put him in jail. How much? 3-5 years? maximum 8. For good behavior, it will be 4-5 years.
Excellent. You know that the German prison is a 3 star hotel?
 chooses his solitary confinement or general, smoking or non-smoking room. And you sit in peace in prison developing a new plan how to deceive people. Go free after 5 years and has a lot of money. that's all. applause.

Ask yourself a few-million you would have sat in a 3 star hotel a couple of years? Of course yes.
German prisons are not Russian, not American. he knows it

So I painted all here who are interested in what I can offer to email me personally!

I still don't get what you are able to offer.   You don't want lawyers, and don't want Court's it sounds like.   But you want peoples info who lost to them (which I did not just for record).   But what can you do to help these people who lost by getting their info?

I'm just not seeing what you "offer" these people.  I know it's sad but I think they are not getting money back it was a scam.   And I don't see how you having someones info helps in anyway though.
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April 29, 2016, 11:33:31 PM
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The only possible information I would ever pass onto an offer like this would be if I used BTC. That info would be:
Yesminers receiving wallet that the BTC was sent to, how much, and date/time of the transaction. Aside from that payment information, only quan/type of miners paid for. Don't even need my name.

Being an open ledger BTCflow into and out of an wallet can be fairly easily tracked ad-infinitum including obviously where coins moved/spent out of the receiving wallet go. The hardest part is linking ownership of the various receiving wallets to where/who the coins eventually go to and accumulate.

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April 30, 2016, 05:54:24 AM
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The only possible information I would ever pass onto an offer like this would be if I used BTC. That info would be:
Yesminers receiving wallet that the BTC was sent to, how much, and date/time of the transaction. Aside from that payment information, only quan/type of miners paid for. Don't even need my name.

Being an open ledger BTCflow into and out of an wallet can be fairly easily tracked ad-infinitum including obviously where coins moved/spent out of the receiving wallet go. The hardest part is linking ownership of the various receiving wallets to where/who the coins eventually go to and accumulate.

yeah there are retired btc whales that used to work at NASA I talk to on whaleclub on team speak..they have been doing this for years..have giant flow charts following the btc trail of btc malware

lots of work ..they say it is lots of fun..but up to 5 months ago they have never caught anyone yet..though they have detailed work on how the money is laundered etc that they at least got out of it and passed on to law enforcement...

shows trends...not the individuals.....so anyway .....with that and say bitmixer.io to hide the trail it could be 'daunting' to say the least to chase blockchain info

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April 30, 2016, 05:33:01 PM
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Hello
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I know some people was sending money via bank transfer, not on LTD(Gmbh) but on personal data of the scamer. Not BTC Only
I need this info.
If you dont understand you have my PM
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April 30, 2016, 10:15:18 PM
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Hello
Dear gents
I know some people was sending money via bank transfer, not on LTD(Gmbh) but on personal data of the scamer. Not BTC Only
I need this info.
If you dont understand you have my PM

You need to post what you are able to do to help, as of now there is NO one who understands why you need peoples info that used a bank.    What is your goal with collecting this data?   It was a scam... best case what can you do?  You ask this multiple times just don't say what you can do with info or why you need info even.  So makes you look like someone trying to harvest peoples info.

Above as mentioned
"I still don't get what you are able to offer.   You don't want lawyers, and don't want Court's it sounds like.   But you want peoples info who lost to them (which I did not just for record).   But what can you do to help these people who lost by getting their info?

I'm just not seeing what you "offer" these people.  I know it's sad but I think they are not getting money back it was a scam.   And I don't see how you having someones info helps in anyway though."

So tell us what you will do with this info... an no one understands.
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May 01, 2016, 06:22:16 AM
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Hello
Dear gents
I know some people was sending money via bank transfer, not on LTD(Gmbh) but on personal data of the scamer. Not BTC Only
I need this info.
If you dont understand you have my PM

You need to post what you are able to do to help, as of now there is NO one who understands why you need peoples info that used a bank.    What is your goal with collecting this data?   It was a scam... best case what can you do?  You ask this multiple times just don't say what you can do with info or why you need info even.  So makes you look like someone trying to harvest peoples info.

Above as mentioned
"I still don't get what you are able to offer.   You don't want lawyers, and don't want Court's it sounds like.   But you want peoples info who lost to them (which I did not just for record).   But what can you do to help these people who lost by getting their info?

I'm just not seeing what you "offer" these people.  I know it's sad but I think they are not getting money back it was a scam.   And I don't see how you having someones info helps in anyway though."

So tell us what you will do with this info... an no one understands.

Ok, If no one can understand i will try.

You know, all is fair in love and war?

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Of course you are right my friend, that the chances are very small
You just need the right person to talk to, push, "right", I can only say that if I have information where he lives now, and specifically the money he has - then chances are about 90% that it will return. another thing that is necessary as it will integrate, such as all those affected and talk.

For what I need harvest info? Only for that.
If you now dont understand how resolve such problem, sorry...

I say so if you think that the world is so white and fluffy then you are wrong. or if you think that the coolest yesminers speculators year, and such cases are not present. Every week - a month that something similar is happening. just not in public. Someone from the Partner of someone else cheated on the money, someone stole someone else's money, someone failed, someone has a huge amount - but the documents do not have to go to a lawyer. how to resolve such issues? Well, of course solved! not just the usual methods for you. There are people who for the% of the amount of money taken. Of course we are not talking about 10-20-100k euros. but if the amount has already 300-1kk yes, that's a lot. and people do not want to feel like an idiot who were deceived.
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May 02, 2016, 12:20:24 AM
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I've been biting my tongue long enough...
Ya know, this reminds me a lot of the movie The Godfather... Sorry but it had to be said Tongue

I understand that the are ways to maybe get repaid that are outside of the legal system. But - most folks here, even those who have been scammed, will not and definitely SHOULD NOT pursue those routes.

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May 02, 2016, 04:25:58 AM
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While I have no vested interest in this venture, am I the only one that wonders if perhaps this is yet another scam to collect additional information on folks that wouldn't otherwise be available?

My apologies if I am being too cynical or paranoid.
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May 02, 2016, 04:46:55 AM
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Hello
Dear gents
I know some people was sending money via bank transfer, not on LTD(Gmbh) but on personal data of the scamer. Not BTC Only
I need this info.
If you dont understand you have my PM

You need to post what you are able to do to help, as of now there is NO one who understands why you need peoples info that used a bank.    What is your goal with collecting this data?   It was a scam... best case what can you do?  You ask this multiple times just don't say what you can do with info or why you need info even.  So makes you look like someone trying to harvest peoples info.

Above as mentioned
"I still don't get what you are able to offer.   You don't want lawyers, and don't want Court's it sounds like.   But you want peoples info who lost to them (which I did not just for record).   But what can you do to help these people who lost by getting their info?

I'm just not seeing what you "offer" these people.  I know it's sad but I think they are not getting money back it was a scam.   And I don't see how you having someones info helps in anyway though."

So tell us what you will do with this info... an no one understands.

Ok, If no one can understand i will try.

You know, all is fair in love and war?

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Of course you are right my friend, that the chances are very small
You just need the right person to talk to, push, "right", I can only say that if I have information where he lives now, and specifically the money he has - then chances are about 90% that it will return. another thing that is necessary as it will integrate, such as all those affected and talk.

For what I need harvest info? Only for that.
If you now dont understand how resolve such problem, sorry...

I say so if you think that the world is so white and fluffy then you are wrong. or if you think that the coolest yesminers speculators year, and such cases are not present. Every week - a month that something similar is happening. just not in public. Someone from the Partner of someone else cheated on the money, someone stole someone else's money, someone failed, someone has a huge amount - but the documents do not have to go to a lawyer. how to resolve such issues? Well, of course solved! not just the usual methods for you. There are people who for the% of the amount of money taken. Of course we are not talking about 10-20-100k euros. but if the amount has already 300-1kk yes, that's a lot. and people do not want to feel like an idiot who were deceived.



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May 02, 2016, 10:17:14 PM
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I've been biting my tongue long enough...
Ya know, this reminds me a lot of the movie The Godfather... Sorry but it had to be said Tongue

I understand that the are ways to maybe get repaid that are outside of the legal system. But - most folks here, even those who have been scammed, will not and definitely SHOULD NOT pursue those routes.

I still can not for the life of me understand what italianconsul brings to the table.  He want's peoples info and specifically those who used banks vs btc.... sound suspicous? Yes very much so.

You are right about Godfarther he acts like he has some way out of system that works.   Think he has the horse head ready Smiley (ok i joke).   But he needs to say what he can offer to help people.  I think this is a scam that those take likely will never see money back, legal options is only way I see.

So italianconsul don't go onto a huge rant.  Just explain why you want to collect peoples data, and WHAT YOU PLAN ON DOING WITH IT.   You still have not touched this.
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Sounds pretty obvious...


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May 03, 2016, 12:46:37 AM
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Sounds pretty obvious...

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But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.
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May 03, 2016, 11:06:22 AM
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Sounds pretty obvious...

gif above

But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario.
Sounds pretty obvious...

gif above

But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario. without guarant
I said just for example. I need just name and adress. Or exact name only. Will find the man.
I dont need any papers, documents e.t.c. So I see only one gay gives me the name, thats good.
If you dont understand now i dont know how to talk with you...sorry.
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May 03, 2016, 09:49:25 PM
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Sounds pretty obvious...

gif above

But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario.
Sounds pretty obvious...

gif above

But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario. without guarant
I said just for example. I need just name and adress. Or exact name only. Will find the man.
I dont need any papers, documents e.t.c. So I see only one gay gives me the name, thats good.
If you dont understand now i dont know how to talk with you...sorry.

Something is lost in translation,because it sounds like you are going to use "strongarm" tactics to recover money for folks.

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May 04, 2016, 01:52:43 AM
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Sounds pretty obvious...

gif above

But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario.
Sounds pretty obvious...

gif above

But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario. without guarant
I said just for example. I need just name and adress. Or exact name only. Will find the man.
I dont need any papers, documents e.t.c. So I see only one gay gives me the name, thats good.
If you dont understand now i dont know how to talk with you...sorry.

Something is lost in translation,because it sounds like you are going to use "strongarm" tactics to recover money for folks.

That is what it sounds like, but he won't come out and say it.   I want to know what his plan is without going off into some rant that goes no where.  italianconsul you have said you are not going though legal system, are you trying to go to people who profited and think you will be successful getting money back? 

Ok...assuming you anwser that and don't rant what makes you think you can get a dime from a scam company?   And why do you need to get people's personal info who were scammed?  I don't think you will get money back.... so getting these peoples info just exposes them to you who is very new on the scene (less then 10 posts ).   
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Sounds pretty obvious...

gif above

But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario.
Sounds pretty obvious...

gif above

But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario. without guarant
I said just for example. I need just name and adress. Or exact name only. Will find the man.
I dont need any papers, documents e.t.c. So I see only one gay gives me the name, thats good.
If you dont understand now i dont know how to talk with you...sorry.

Something is lost in translation,because it sounds like you are going to use "strongarm" tactics to recover money for folks.

sounds like he wants to see 'who' the btc was sent to....name etc...and if anyone has various alias's but yeah translation problems i think

i understand the logic if you are tracking fake names on a lead...but it it is BTC likely NO fake names but 1 that everyone used was needed...and I'm 100% sure once

he cashed out on an exchange and got the btc on the usb he has tossed the identity away and is on to new scams..anyway if i read between the translation issues (doubtful) Sad
















 

 

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May 04, 2016, 12:25:43 PM
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Sounds pretty obvious...

gif above

But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario.
Sounds pretty obvious...

gif above

But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario. without guarant
I said just for example. I need just name and adress. Or exact name only. Will find the man.
I dont need any papers, documents e.t.c. So I see only one gay gives me the name, thats good.
If you dont understand now i dont know how to talk with you...sorry.

Something is lost in translation,because it sounds like you are going to use "strongarm" tactics to recover money for folks.

sounds like he wants to see 'who' the btc was sent to....name etc...and if anyone has various alias's but yeah translation problems i think

i understand the logic if you are tracking fake names on a lead...but it it is BTC likely NO fake names but 1 that everyone used was needed...and I'm 100% sure once

he cashed out on an exchange and got the btc on the usb he has tossed the identity away and is on to new scams..anyway if i read between the translation issues (doubtful) Sad



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maby you dont understand 10 times but i try to explain again.
i dont need personal datawho was scamed! i need data yesminers owner, i need data scamers, i need this data! not perdonal data of guys who waste they money.
I repet, i need data of yesminers scamer! personal data in becaus i need to know were hi lives! why you can understand it?
im tired, realy. Special for you again. I dont need any data of guys who preordered some stuf from yesminers, i need data of yesminers scamers! to try to take money. f....
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sorry im on the way from mobile, i know about my english and gramma.
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sorry im on the way from mobile, i know about my english and gramma.


I think I get what you mean but except for the scammers btc address imho he used all other fake info

So fake name etc emptied btc account he is in the wind


Thus our confusion on your info request is no legit info to get you all fake

There is no info on scammer we know of

He imho has gotten away clear and untraceable with all the btc














 

 

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Sounds pretty obvious...

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But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario.
Sounds pretty obvious...

gif above

But if he is going to do something like this why does he need other peoples info, and specifically those who used a bank?   I don't see it maybe he has some justice that needs info... but I can't help from seeing someone trying to scam those who have already been scammed.

I could be wrong I just think there is a motive to collecting their personal info besides helping.

no you're wrong I do not have any lawyers justice etc. Bank information is needed to get the name to whom transferred money! senders names do not need ... I do not want the names of those who was scamed. I need to know who he is and where he lives. and all. that's not understandable? I can offer some information that someone will get their money back. or part of the money. with a positive scenario. without guarant
I said just for example. I need just name and adress. Or exact name only. Will find the man.
I dont need any papers, documents e.t.c. So I see only one gay gives me the name, thats good.
If you dont understand now i dont know how to talk with you...sorry.

Something is lost in translation,because it sounds like you are going to use "strongarm" tactics to recover money for folks.

sounds like he wants to see 'who' the btc was sent to....name etc...and if anyone has various alias's but yeah translation problems i think

i understand the logic if you are tracking fake names on a lead...but it it is BTC likely NO fake names but 1 that everyone used was needed...and I'm 100% sure once

he cashed out on an exchange and got the btc on the usb he has tossed the identity away and is on to new scams..anyway if i read between the translation issues (doubtful) Sad



,omg, why you try to playing in sherlock holms?
maby you dont understand 10 times but i try to explain again.
i dont need personal datawho was scamed! i need data yesminers owner, i need data scamers, i need this data! not perdonal data of guys who waste they money.
I repet, i need data of yesminers scamer! personal data in becaus i need to know were hi lives! why you can understand it?
im tired, realy. Special for you again. I dont need any data of guys who preordered some stuf from yesminers, i need data of yesminers scamers! to try to take money. f....
i

Ah,ok you want to see what info others have about Yesminer the company.

Yeah something got lost in translation back there  Cheesy

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