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April 16, 2016, 08:13:44 PM
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Anyone tried to use scripts to automate lending and automatically adjust the interest rates? There is one on github but it is not working very well, or poloniex blocked it.

No, I'm doing it manually with the Factom I have.

It's actually a fun way to enter into the world of margin trading without taking the risks that margin traders undertake. In my case, I manually set the daily interest rate at 0.03% to 0.04% in most cases. I'm already noticing that most of my loans get picked up when the Factom market becomes volatile, even when my offers are well above the low offer. On the other hand, when Factom's stable, loan offers set at 0.005% go begging.

FWIW, here's a quick table of daily interest rates compounded to annual:

0.005% daily......1.84% annually
0.01% daily.......3.71% annually
0.015% daily......5.56% annually
0.02% daily........7.57% annually
0.025% daily......9.55% annually
0.03% daily.......11.56% annually
0.035% daily.....13.62% annually
0.04% daily.......15.71% annually
0.045% daily.....17.84% annually
0.05% daily.......20.02% annually
[and so on...]

Of course, the above yearly rates assume that the alts are continuously borrowed - which is not the case. And that's where the challenge comes in: finding a rate that's high enough to produce a decent return but isn't high enough to leave your alts idle.

The neat part about the Lending market is that you have to pay attention to the market for the alt itself almost as if you were a margin trader or short seller - but you're taking a lot less risk than the foregoing punters. It's a real learning experience.






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April 19, 2016, 01:37:16 PM
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How can a user who lend 10 BTC be 100% sure he'll get back his loan+interest? Does poloniex vouch for a loan or how does this work?

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April 19, 2016, 05:48:52 PM
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How can a user who lend 10 BTC be 100% sure he'll get back his loan+interest? Does poloniex vouch for a loan or how does this work?

You can't be 100% sure, because there's a teeny chance that a black-swan will wipe out the borrower's margin cushion (and more) before Poloniex liquidates the trade on the grounds of insufficient margin. The lending is OTC, so Poloniex doesn't vouch for a loan. All Poloniex does is liquidate a borrower's trade-gone-wrong automatically if the borrower's equity falls below the margin-maintenance threshold.

So thee is counterparty risk, but it's slight. In the case of a margin-buy, you'd have to have a huge crash in the borrower-bought alt before your BTC would be at risk of default.






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April 27, 2016, 04:32:21 PM
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Do you guys think Poloniex is safe to deposit more coins to generate interest in the lending section?

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April 28, 2016, 02:28:40 AM
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Do you guys think Poloniex is safe to deposit more coins to generate interest in the lending section?

I do. In fact, I have.






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May 02, 2016, 03:13:05 PM
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I just want to confirm my calculations are right.

On average, we earn 0.03% interest each day through lending. So, annually, we are talking about (0.03 x 365) 10% interest gain?

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May 02, 2016, 07:56:28 PM
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I just want to confirm my calculations are right.

On average, we earn 0.03% interest each day through lending. So, annually, we are talking about (0.03 x 365) 10% interest gain?

Almost, you're making a little less than 10%, because Poloniex takes a 15% fee.

You can see the fee here: https://poloniex.com/tradeHistory  and then "show" "Loan Earnings"
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May 02, 2016, 08:12:37 PM
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Do you guys think Poloniex is safe to deposit more coins to generate interest in the lending section?

I do. In fact, I have.
How is poloniex better than nova exchange? Which one is more reliable in terms of giving stable prices in the long run?

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May 04, 2016, 01:25:52 AM
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I just want to confirm my calculations are right.

On average, we earn 0.03% interest each day through lending. So, annually, we are talking about (0.03 x 365) 10% interest gain?

Almost, you're making a little less than 10%, because Poloniex takes a 15% fee.

You can see the fee here: https://poloniex.com/tradeHistory  and then "show" "Loan Earnings"


Hi weryo, thanks for point out that link! Saw it. Useful! Thank u!

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Do you guys think Poloniex is safe to deposit more coins to generate interest in the lending section?

I do. In fact, I have.
How is poloniex better than nova exchange? Which one is more reliable in terms of giving stable prices in the long run?

I don't know; I've only tried Poloniex.






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May 09, 2016, 11:55:38 AM
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Do you guys think Poloniex is safe to deposit more coins to generate interest in the lending section?

I do. In fact, I have.
How is poloniex better than nova exchange? Which one is more reliable in terms of giving stable prices in the long run?

I'm having better luck on Nova - I'm getting much better rates there.  There are too many lowballers lending for cheap on Poloniex. Why the hell would you risk you crypto on an exchange for 0.03% per day before fees - you're better off putting money in a CD.
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Do you guys think Poloniex is safe to deposit more coins to generate interest in the lending section?

I do. In fact, I have.
How is poloniex better than nova exchange? Which one is more reliable in terms of giving stable prices in the long run?

I'm having better luck on Nova - I'm getting much better rates there.  There are too many lowballers lending for cheap on Poloniex. Why the hell would you risk you crypto on an exchange for 0.03% per day before fees - you're better off putting money in a CD.

Novaexchanges supports lending? What are the average daily interest rates?

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Novaexchange is closed for maintenance
During maintenance the exchange will go through a full code review to find weaknesses, go through penetration testing and functionality testing
A fundraiser has been started by Bejjan @ scryptpool.com to finance the BTC and LTC missing to Novaexchange userbase. click here for more info
Read the original notice that the security of Novaexchange was comprimized
Stay tuned for updates
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Novaexchange is closed for maintenance
During maintenance the exchange will go through a full code review to find weaknesses, go through penetration testing and functionality testing
A fundraiser has been started by Bejjan @ scryptpool.com to finance the BTC and LTC missing to Novaexchange userbase. click here for more info
Read the original notice that the security of Novaexchange was comprimized
Stay tuned for updates
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sounds not rly trustworthy Undecided

What's going to happen to users' coins @ Novabase?

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December 28, 2016, 11:19:43 PM
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Lending you mined coins is great if you dont intend to exchange them to FIAT currencies and get interest on it.
Here is video tutorial how lending works on Poloniex

in poloniex lending not support fiat money or USDT
because USDT not support margin trading
only support altcoin and bitcoin in lending system

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December 31, 2016, 11:11:40 AM
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So just stumbled across this recently.  What kind of prices, volume & terms have you guys who lend & borrow BTC for trading been getting?

if you want margin trading in poloniex is good
because in there loan interest is very low
but if you want lending is not competitif interest , return is low
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I heard polo was hacked back in the day... Kinda risky to keep your coins sitting there long periods of time making only small revenue.
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I heard polo was hacked back in the day... Kinda risky to keep your coins sitting there long periods of time making only small revenue.

Poloniex was hacked in 2014, but they compensated everyone, so people using the exchange didn't lose money.

 
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If you really want to earn by using lending, why not try Margin trading? You lend to your broker, and earn by Margin Selling or Margin Buy.
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why are laon rates so much higher on polo that bitfinex?

anyone have any thoughts.
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