Gary Johnson Debates Obama and Romney Live

[Atlas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVHGJYy4NTg&feature=youtu.be&newstate=82ba705325f9064ba86cc9f4875b53bf

From his couch. 

[bigbox]

Thanks for the link, I'm glad Gary Johnson made an attempt to use technology to get his viewpoint out there live even though he was excluded from the actual "debate".

[420]

haha crowd surfing and then debating from his couch

[freespirit]

It's a disgrace that the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) which is controlled by the two monstrous parties excludes other candidates so blatantly.
I think it is important to spread the word every time you get a chance as most people do not even know the names of other candidates besides Romney and Obama. (see for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjVTBKVGDFE )

For instance go to the official "debate"'s youtube video page and tell people (post comments) that they have more than two choices, suggest that they google Gary Johnson or search for his videos on youtube. As there seems to be a lot of activity going on there, repeat it once in a while.

Another great idea that somebody suggested somewhere on youtube (and they claim that they swung many votes this way): every time you see a political comment in social networks, respond with one of Gary's short videos. (pick a relevant one from his youtube page http://www.youtube.com/user/govgaryjohnson/videos?view=0 or LP's page: http://www.youtube.com/user/LibertarianParty/videos?view=0 )

And sign this petition: http://libertarianpetition.com/

[Richy_T]

It's a disgrace that the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) which is controlled by the two monstrous parties excludes other candidates so blatantly.
I think it is important to spread the word every time you get a chance as most people do not even know the names of other candidates besides Romney and Obama. (see for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjVTBKVGDFE )

For instance go to the official "debate"'s youtube video page and tell people (post comments) that they have more than two choices, suggest that they google Gary Johnson or search for his videos on youtube. As there seems to be a lot of activity going on there, repeat it once in a while.

Another great idea that somebody suggested somewhere on youtube (and they claim that they swung many votes this way): every time you see a political comment in social networks, respond with one of Gary's short videos. (pick a relevant one from his youtube page http://www.youtube.com/user/govgaryjohnson/videos?view=0 or LP's page: http://www.youtube.com/user/LibertarianParty/videos?view=0 )

And sign this petition: http://libertarianpetition.com/

I might just track down a list of all presidential candidates and start posting it. I lean libertarian but I think trying to dilute the whole only-two-parties thing could be a very inclusive strategy.

[420]

at least 5 major candidates


Romney, Obamster

Gary Johnson
Jill Stein on Green
Virgil Goode on Constitution from Virginia

[claire]

Thank you for posting this. I wish the guy had a chance, but I hope more that someone kicks the current creep out. If they let GJ in then they need to let someone as equally as liberal to do it as well. Unfortunately, the Democrats will NEVER split their votes because their union buddies would hunt them all down and kick their butts.

[freespirit]

I wish the guy had a chance, but I hope more that someone kicks the current creep out.

This is exactly the kind of attitude that prevents him from "having a chance". Elections are about voting for someone who in your opinion represents your views best. Not about kicking the current creep out. (and putting in another one, besides the other creep does not seem to be much better in my opinion anyway). The more people vote for GJ the more of that chance he'll get, even if he wont win this time the votes he'll gather will give him a momentum to build on for the next elections. Forget the two creeps and all that spoiler bullshit, just vote for the right guy. (and convince others to do the same)

BTW, GJ "swings both ways": http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2012/09/cnn-gary-johnson/ , see also for instance http://www.kckansan.com/2012/10/why-im-voting-for-gary-johnson-and.html

4. Johnson's not a spoiler candidate - he's a candidate who threatens both major candidates

Based on the state polling, Johnson has taken support away from Obama in New Mexico and Colorado, while Johnson's hurt Romney in Ohio and Virginia. Assuming Johnson is only a spoiler for Romney is a myth.

There are policies Johnson has that appeals to small-government types like myself and those polices that appeal to my liberal friends who love personal freedom, privacy and support gay rights. Since most of our readers live in Kansas, Johnson will not a spoiler. Romney is 100 percent certain to win the state of Kansas.

If you are displeased Republican or a displeased Democrat, I encourage you to hop on the Johnson bandwagon. Do not let your two-party friends bully you into voting against Johnson if you believe he's the best candidate. It's not the Libertarians who let the economy crash. It's not the Libertarians who are doing their best to avoid any accountability. It's not us who accumulated a $16 trillion debt. It's the two major parties who have done those things.

5. A third-party threat is needed to shake up government

After Ross Perot won nearly 20 percent of the vote in the 1992 election, change happened believe it or not. Perot's biggest campaign issue in '92 was the debt. What happened after Perot won 20 percent in 1992? Former President Clinton and the Newt Gingrich-led Republican Congress balanced the budget for the first time in a few decades.

Clinton and Gingrich both deserve credit, but I also believe Perot raising awareness of the debt and earning a significant third-party vote forced the issue. If Johnson can win just 10 percent of the vote nation-wide, it would scare the Democrats and Republicans into straightening up a little more. And I think even a lot of Democrats and Republicans would agree that's a good thing!

[420]

What we need is not to tout one person to get in there but to tout a fudnamental change to the system

such as iniatiate alternative voting, watch this fantastic video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

[Rassah]

After discovering Bitcoin, and being introduced to things like Tor, 3D printing, mesh networking, and other distributed projects, I've come to the conclusion that the best, and likely only way to fix this whole problem is to just make all of the politicians irrelevant. Let them pass laws about what we can browse and download, what we can buy or give money to, what we can use our web connections for, or what we can build and own. Silk Road and Pirate Bay have shown me that eventually people will just shrug their shoulders at the law and ignore it, and the politicians will be powerless to do anything about it.

[420]

After discovering Bitcoin, and being introduced to things like Tor, 3D printing, mesh networking, and other distributed projects, I've come to the conclusion that the best, and likely only way to fix this whole problem is to just make all of the politicians irrelevant. Let them pass laws about what we can browse and download, what we can buy or give money to, what we can use our web connections for, or what we can build and own. Silk Road and Pirate Bay have shown me that eventually people will just shrug their shoulders at the law and ignore it, and the politicians will be powerless to do anything about it.

you're not shook off what happened to kim dotcom?

[Rassah]

After discovering Bitcoin, and being introduced to things like Tor, 3D printing, mesh networking, and other distributed projects, I've come to the conclusion that the best, and likely only way to fix this whole problem is to just make all of the politicians irrelevant. Let them pass laws about what we can browse and download, what we can buy or give money to, what we can use our web connections for, or what we can build and own. Silk Road and Pirate Bay have shown me that eventually people will just shrug their shoulders at the law and ignore it, and the politicians will be powerless to do anything about it.

you're not shook off what happened to kim dotcom?

Kim Dotcom would not have been caught if MegaUpload was behind Tor and used Bitcoin for payments. Things like the Kim Dotcom  incident, as well as RIAA crackdowns, are what will push people into using those unregulatable technologies more and more, with the phrase "the more they squeeze, the more will run through their fingers" applying very well to the situation.

[420]

but the more they squeeze the still more people get squeeze harder that are left inside their grasp

[Rassah]

but the more they squeeze the still more people get squeeze harder that are left inside their grasp

Those are the people who will be finally forced to get off their lazy butts and learn about things like Tor and Bitcoin.

[420]

but the more they squeeze the still more people get squeeze harder that are left inside their grasp

Those are the people who will be finally forced to get off their lazy butts and learn about things like Tor and Bitcoin.

so we have a megasecretupload site coming from kim utilizing these techniques?

[Rassah]

but the more they squeeze the still more people get squeeze harder that are left inside their grasp

Those are the people who will be finally forced to get off their lazy butts and learn about things like Tor and Bitcoin.

so we have a megasecretupload site coming from kim utilizing these techniques?

Doubt it, but we do have a bunch of file storage websites switching from PayPal/VISA to Bitcoin, meaning people using them will be forced to learn about BTC.

[420]

but the more they squeeze the still more people get squeeze harder that are left inside their grasp

Those are the people who will be finally forced to get off their lazy butts and learn about things like Tor and Bitcoin.

so we have a megasecretupload site coming from kim utilizing these techniques?

Doubt it, but we do have a bunch of file storage websites switching from PayPal/VISA to Bitcoin, meaning people using them will be forced to learn about BTC.

tell me some sites, I didn't know about them

promise I'm not FBI

[Topazan]

What we need is not to tout one person to get in there but to tout a fudnamental change to the system

such as iniatiate alternative voting, watch this fantastic video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

Wow, that's an awesome explanation.  I've been saying for years that we need instant run-off voting.  I even wrote to my state representatives about it, but I got no response.

[420]

What we need is not to tout one person to get in there but to tout a fudnamental change to the system

such as iniatiate alternative voting, watch this fantastic video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

Wow, that's an awesome explanation.  I've been saying for years that we need instant run-off voting.  I even wrote to my state representatives about it, but I got no response.

yeah i better start calling it instant runoff voting keep my names correct

a similar video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqblOq8BmgM

[Topazan]

What we need is not to tout one person to get in there but to tout a fudnamental change to the system

such as iniatiate alternative voting, watch this fantastic video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

Wow, that's an awesome explanation.  I've been saying for years that we need instant run-off voting.  I even wrote to my state representatives about it, but I got no response.

yeah i better start calling it instant runoff voting keep my names correct

a similar video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqblOq8BmgM

Aren't they both correct terms?  Personally, I prefer instant runoff because it's more obvious what it means from the name.

That video's not bad, but I liked the jungle animals even better.