Satoshi Speaks. Real? Hoax?

[smoothie]

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html

hoax? real?

you decide

bitcoin-dev Bitcoin XT Fork

Satoshi Nakamoto satoshi at vistomail.com
Sat Aug 15 17:43:54 UTC 2015
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I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing list.  I had hoped the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would achieve widespread consensus.  However with the formal release of Bitcoin XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my concerns about this very dangerous fork.

The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original vision, but nothing could be further from the truth.  When I designed Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement.  Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satoshi Nakamoto.  Nearly everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it without being forced or pressured into it.  By doing a fork in this way, these developers are violating the "original vision" they claim to honour.

They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to be.  However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions.  For example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network.  Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and we should take more time to come up with a robust solution.  I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism.

If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin a failed project.  Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially robust.  This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.

Satoshi Nakamoto

[Yofun]

I think it's fake.

Not sure his original email.

But if it is. Its not hard to fake emails.

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010239.html

"Sign with the key 5EC948A1 or shut up, you scammer"

Let's see

[AgentofCoin]

The prophecy is being fulfilled before our eyes.

[tsoPANos]

If it was him, he would has signed his message.
This has happened lot's of times.
He is holding one and a half million bitcoins.
Why would he come to light?

[apriyani420]

I know that its actually recall easy to make fake emails as it was already pointed out in the previous post though I guess it is impossible for it to proof that itsreal

[--Encrypted--]

anyone that claims to be satoshi without signing a PGP message with his key is going to be ruled out as fake. why ask?

[GermanGiant]

It might be him. It might not. But, if he wants the world to believe, he has to sign with his PGP.

[achow101]

It might be him since that email was used before.

BTW, there is already a thread about this here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1153708.0

[sana9821]

This is probably just a hoax that was created by someone I doubt that satoshi would reappear again after such a long period of silence though it would be really cool if it was real and not fake

[Habeler876]

It might be him since that email was used before.

Yes, but even tho that email was used, it was also confirmed as being compromised before, so without PGP it's just an another hoax, but judging by
the way the statement in question was composed; it's a well made one.
imho satoshi is interested in our reaction to the fork just as much as we are interested in his opinion, maybe even more so.

[--Encrypted--]

Yes, but even tho that email was used, it was also confirmed as being compromised before, so without PGP it's just an another hoax, but judging by
the way the statement in question was composed; it's a well made one.
imho satoshi is interested in our reaction to the fork just as much as we are interested in his opinion, maybe even more so.

satoshi@vistomail.com <- I don't think this email have ever been confirmed as being compromised before..

satoshi used that when he first announced bitcoin.

[dasource]

If (and a huge *if* that is) Satoshi decided he needed to make a point .. why would he not do it with the technology he created? Sign a message using one of his private keys on the bitcoin blockchain.
Something for everyone to see and no-one to dispute.

[NorrisK]

It doesn't even sound like Satoshis earlier posts.. It is just a rant of somebody who is not agreeing with how it is going.. Just ignore it

[98problems]

Wow its really crazy I think it can be really him because of the email he used and I hope it was him a lot of time have passed since we heard last time from satoshi I hope he's back

[randy8777]

i don't think this is really satoshi. this smells more like some one is trying to trigger panic sellers to sell. it is a failed attempt. people are wise enough to see that this isn't real.

[RGBKey]

The real satoshi would have signed a message, no questions asked. This has to be a fake.

[rax]

anyone that claims to be satoshi without signing a PGP message with his key is going to be ruled out as fake. why ask?

TBH he never ever signed anything. Probably on purpose 

[--Encrypted--]

anyone that claims to be satoshi without signing a PGP message with his key is going to be ruled out as fake. why ask?

TBH he never ever signed anything. Probably on purpose 

yeah, I've read about it. but it doesn't change the fact that people won't be willing to accept anyone that claims to be satoshi without some sort of proof.

[FreeJack2k]

He's an absentee landlord and this situation is of his own making. I find it extremely dubious that he'd choose to chime in and proclaim that he'd have to call it a "failed project" if things didn't go his way. Tell that to the VCs that have poured hundreds of millions of dollars into the ecosystem, so far. Besides that, nobody's going to believe this was really written by Satoshi (whoever he is). Sign the message with one of the addresses that contains part of your million Bitcoin hoard, then I'll buy that it's you...and then, I won't really care what you have to say about it, because you've long since abandoned the project anyway.

[chek2fire]

I dont know if is him but it has a nice point to what he say. He cant one ore two developer fork bitcoin just like that.. In the other way this is the power of bitcoin. Someone try to fork it and if everyone follow then this that we have is democracy.