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August 16, 2015, 02:31:24 PM
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as mentioned above, if it is surely its a recipe for disaster with scammers and such :/


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August 16, 2015, 02:43:18 PM
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as mentioned above, if it is surely its a recipe for disaster with scammers and such :/

Why? It makes it more costly to buy an account with positive trust. This makes the amount needed to ROI on the scam higher. Which makes the scam more difficult as people tend to be more carefull the higher the amount traded is. If the account is not bought, it would be considered a long con, which takes time and energy only a few scammers can seem to invest.

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August 16, 2015, 05:32:24 PM
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as mentioned above, if it is surely its a recipe for disaster with scammers and such :/

If you were selling for example two senior member accounts with a similar history of posting quality, where one has positive trust & one has no trust then in response to your question - Yes the account with the positive trust is of higher value & will be worth more.

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August 16, 2015, 05:38:41 PM
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Considering people have been trading account for ages, it's not a big problem. Any experienced trader knows that escrow is almost always mandatory.
But yes, an account with positive trust is more valuable.
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August 16, 2015, 05:42:03 PM
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as mentioned above, if it is surely its a recipe for disaster with scammers and such :/

If you were selling for example two senior member accounts with a similar history of posting quality, where one has positive trust & one has no trust then in response to your question - Yes the account with the positive trust is of higher value & will be worth more.
how much does it push it up by, relatively speaking 


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August 16, 2015, 05:45:47 PM
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Positive trust add value to the account but if someone bought an account with a positive trust then that is not intended for the buyer.
Buyer is buying an image not an account.
Build your own trust is much better than buying ones with positive trust.
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August 16, 2015, 05:48:41 PM
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Yes. The value is high but I've seen many who sell their accounts with +ve ratings for a low value as they are in a hurry to sell their account. This makes their account easier to scam with and there have been cases when it has happened. People are ready to risk a higher amount to accounts with green trust and especially newbies who get easily scammed by these accounts. They just succeed in one trade where they recover more than the value they paid for the account and then disappear.

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August 16, 2015, 05:51:57 PM
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I think it was yesterday when some one is selling an account with green trust
too bad the seller posted a screenshot of the profile
now its has a neutral trust feedback that its a sold account
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August 16, 2015, 06:00:15 PM
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does the admins dont have any problem with this account trades ?
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August 16, 2015, 06:02:05 PM
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does the admins dont have any problem with this account trades ?

its fine with them as far as i know.
regulating account trades will be more of a problem as sellers will find other ways to sell it whenever they get caught
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August 16, 2015, 06:04:48 PM
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does the admins dont have any problem with this account trades ?
No admins has problem with only Spam posts not trades or any thing in Currency Exchange many traders with thousand of trades
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August 16, 2015, 06:04:59 PM
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does the admins dont have any problem with this account trades ?

its fine with them as far as i know.
regulating account trades will be more of a problem as sellers will find other ways to sell it whenever they get caught

People have been openly trading accounts for a long time. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0

One of the main reasons is to attempt ROI on a signature campaign. People buy accounts, enroll in a signature campaign and post to get their money back.
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August 16, 2015, 06:15:49 PM
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I think it was yesterday when some one is selling an account with green trust
too bad the seller posted a screenshot of the profile
now its has a neutral trust feedback that its a sold account

And who are those people who left the member a neutral rating? If they are DT members who themselves participate in account trading, it's just so mean. When the seller is being open about selling his account, why others should have an issue?

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August 16, 2015, 07:58:59 PM
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I think it was yesterday when some one is selling an account with green trust
too bad the seller posted a screenshot of the profile
now its has a neutral trust feedback that its a sold account

And who are those people who left the member a neutral rating? If they are DT members who themselves participate in account trading, it's just so mean. When the seller is being open about selling his account, why others should have an issue?

Well it makes sense, you can sell an account but you just cannot and you shouldn't sell the trust rating since it is yours, you have earned it, and not the buyer who is buying an account. This actually puts in a disadvantage all the other users that could possibly deal in the future with this buyer of this account with positive rating.

Of course, in the real world buyer and seller don't care about this, they are just trying to earn more money.
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August 16, 2015, 09:09:15 PM
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Your account value is definitely pushed up then if you will want to sell it as people will think that it will be much more trusted than the ones who are with default trust rating

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August 17, 2015, 08:34:54 AM
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this is actually a problem, because there are many that are doing exactly this trick to increase value and sell a lower rank account for a better price, and it seems fairly easy doing so with some members, via escrow

basically here the strategy

1 user makes two account, then call an escrower and tell him that he want to escrow with his other account; obviously the escrower does not know anything, then the escrow leave the good feedback to both or to one only, and done, in any case the user is feeding himself with illegitimate trust
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August 17, 2015, 08:37:40 AM
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this is actually a problem, because there are many that are doing exactly this trick to increase value and sell a lower rank account for a better price, and it seems fairly easy doing so with some members, via escrow

basically here the strategy

1 user makes two account, then call an escrower and tell him that he want to escrow with his other account; obviously the escrower does not know anything, then the escrow leave the good feedback to both or to one only, and done, in any case the user is feeding himself with illegitimate trust
many of the people on DT are aware of this issue though, and the escrow services don't often leave feedback for low level accounts. but, it's true that trust farming is a thing, and hopefully it'll be addressed properly in the future.

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August 17, 2015, 08:44:04 AM
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if my account has positive trust is it value pushed up?
If you ask me then its NO.
I don't care if you have a Dozen of Trust but do care If you have a single legitimate Trust from Default List.
You should always try to stop the tradings of accounts that involve green trust as if it goes in wrong hands can lead to some sort of scams.
else there is no point of trust all remedy lies in Escrow , use Escrow for all small to big stuffs and stay safe.

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August 17, 2015, 09:48:05 AM
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if my account has positive trust is it value pushed up?
If you ask me then its NO.
I don't care if you have a Dozen of Trust but do care If you have a single legitimate Trust from Default List.
You should always try to stop the tradings of accounts that involve green trust as if it goes in wrong hands can lead to some sort of scams.
else there is no point of trust all remedy lies in Escrow , use Escrow for all small to big stuffs and stay safe.

You might not value the account but it does add more value if you check the digital goods section. People will obviously pay a little bit more for trust, sometimes for good or bad reasons. As shorena said above you probably wont be able to scam for much if anything at all so it's probably not worth buying an account to scam but some feedback might make people trust you more for sure.
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August 17, 2015, 09:51:59 AM
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I dont think it matters if the above mentioned uses are preferred .
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