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August 17, 2015, 03:31:02 PM
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I 've been mining on Eligius with over 50Thash.  I think Luke Jr. is a dick - but didn't care as it was an easy pool to set up.  So I just stayed there.  Now, we have a real issue.  I support XT.  I want to switch my mining to an XT pool. 

Which pool is presently on XT?  I know AntPool is planning on going to XT, but I want to go to XT now.  Should I switch from Eligius and who do I switch too for easy pool mining?

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August 17, 2015, 03:37:10 PM
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Has any pool made a statement in that regard?

I know the majority supports bigger blocks, but actually start using XT I'm unaware of that.

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August 17, 2015, 03:38:47 PM
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Why are you supporting XT? Are you think there is no future for Core? Or any other reason!?
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August 17, 2015, 03:39:20 PM
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I don't know which pools already have XT, but I want to know why everyone hates Luke Jr?
It's like every 100th post there must be someone dissing him.
Why?
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August 17, 2015, 03:40:21 PM
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Here, take a look at these:


Why are you supporting XT? Are you think there is no future for Core? Or any other reason!?

Aren't you following the debate?

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August 17, 2015, 03:46:51 PM
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Why are you supporting XT? Are you think there is no future for Core? Or any other reason!?

The guys who built Lightning Network want to hit the 1MB limit so their project becomes needed.  Then, they will let everyone come in for free for a few years.  Then, they will start to charge for their 'services'.  

We don't need a complex technical solution (side chains) controlled by private parties - to make Bitcoin work.  Bitcoin works on its own - with larger blocks.  Why put in place an unnecessary limit (1MB) just so some guys have a reason to built their sidechain projects?  I call bullshit.  

Bitcoin XT is Bitcoin.  From the beginning, Satoshi imagined blocks which could handle more than 7 tx per second.  1MB limit was introduced with the intention of it being later removed.  

Sidechains to increase transaction rate will lead to crazy complexities.  Everyone needs to keep the original Bitcoin strong and avoid creating need for complex add-on systems like sidechains and Lightning Network.

There is simply no explanation at all why the 1MB should remain.  
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August 17, 2015, 03:49:06 PM
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are you guys crazy?! stop talking about that!

 Lips sealed  Undecided



(p2pool i guess)

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3h5rou/support_bigger_blocks_by_mining_bitcoin_xt_with/

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August 17, 2015, 03:50:06 PM
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Why are you supporting XT? Are you think there is no future for Core? Or any other reason!?

Funny when ppl made their choice, the hypocrites will question them.

Yet if its the other way around, they're being called shills and FUDsters.

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August 17, 2015, 03:51:00 PM
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I don't know which pools already have XT, but I want to know why everyone hates Luke Jr?
It's like every 100th post there must be someone dissing him.
Why?

You're too new to know. Its a long history. Gotta wait for someone to write a book about it.  Grin
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August 17, 2015, 03:52:54 PM
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Why are you supporting XT? Are you think there is no future for Core? Or any other reason!?

The guys who built Lightning Network want to hit the 1MB limit so their project becomes needed.  Then, they will let everyone come in for free for a few years.  Then, they will start to charge for their 'services'.  

We don't need a complex technical solution (side chains) controlled by private parties - to make Bitcoin work.  Bitcoin works on its own - with larger blocks.  Why put in place an unnecessary limit (1MB) just so some guys have a reason to built their sidechain projects?  I call bullshit.  

Bitcoin XT is Bitcoin.  From the beginning, Satoshi imagined blocks which could handle more than 7 tx per second.  1MB limit was introduced with the intention of it being later removed.  

Sidechains to increase transaction rate will lead to crazy complexities.  Everyone needs to keep the original Bitcoin strong and avoid creating need for complex add-on systems like sidechains and Lightning Network.

There is simply no explanation at all why the 1MB should remain.  

What the hell?, your account is new and it does not look like "reputable member"  hence your opinion is invalid.

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August 17, 2015, 03:56:04 PM
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Bitcoin is money.it is really a very most apps.many peoples earns from it.time to switch from eliguis Wink
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August 17, 2015, 05:46:19 PM
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P2pool seems your option, as far as I've read, but there doesn't seem to be any blocks mined with clients supporting bigger blocks, so far.
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August 17, 2015, 08:43:22 PM
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Bitcoin is money.it is really a very most apps.many peoples earns from it.time to switch from eliguis Wink

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August 17, 2015, 08:52:58 PM
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There is no rush. The BitcoinXT-client is pretty new, I guess it will take the miners some time to upgrade to it.
I don't get, why the numbers now are that important, since the change would take place earliest in January 2016. There is no harm if everybody would wait till e.g. November to upgrade.

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August 17, 2015, 09:52:42 PM
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Which pool is presently on XT? 

Coincadence support XT (P2Pool network).
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August 18, 2015, 12:23:30 AM
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I 've been mining on Eligius with over 50Thash.  I think Luke Jr. is a dick - but didn't care as it was an easy pool to set up.  So I just stayed there.  Now, we have a real issue.  I support XT.  I want to switch my mining to an XT pool.  

Which pool is presently on XT?  I know AntPool is planning on going to XT, but I want to go to XT now.  Should I switch from Eligius and who do I switch too for easy pool mining?


A lot of people think this.  The guys at CounterParty hate him for hating OP_Return.

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August 18, 2015, 03:22:07 AM
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Why are you supporting XT? Are you think there is no future for Core? Or any other reason!?

The guys who built Lightning Network want to hit the 1MB limit so their project becomes needed.  Then, they will let everyone come in for free for a few years.  Then, they will start to charge for their 'services'.  

We don't need a complex technical solution (side chains) controlled by private parties - to make Bitcoin work.  Bitcoin works on its own - with larger blocks.  Why put in place an unnecessary limit (1MB) just so some guys have a reason to built their sidechain projects?  I call bullshit.  

Bitcoin XT is Bitcoin.  From the beginning, Satoshi imagined blocks which could handle more than 7 tx per second.  1MB limit was introduced with the intention of it being later removed.  

Sidechains to increase transaction rate will lead to crazy complexities.  Everyone needs to keep the original Bitcoin strong and avoid creating need for complex add-on systems like sidechains and Lightning Network.

There is simply no explanation at all why the 1MB should remain.  

What the hell?, your account is new and it does not look like "reputable member"  hence your opinion is invalid.



I back his/her statement, not just because it's bleeding obvious but also because i very enthusiastically read through the whole side chains idea and labelled it what it is : - A great tech feat, but not a viable solution.


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August 18, 2015, 04:43:12 AM
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What the hell?, your account is new and it does not look like "reputable member"  hence your opinion is invalid.



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I love how you resort to discredit "new account" as if that would validate your points or the lack of.

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You're an hypocrite, Meono. I don't care if you're using an throw-away account or not but I find your attitude more offensive than constructive. Unless your agenda is to offend people I suggest you change your tone.
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August 18, 2015, 04:56:37 AM
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You might be interested in this

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3hcx9u/should_i_set_up_a_bitcoinxt_pool/

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August 19, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
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Slush's pool apparently has an XT option. They got the first XT block.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3hhbm5/first_mined_xt_block_370434/cu7ck01

Toomim Bros operates a p2pool node using XT at 74.82.233.205:9334 and a p2pool node using Core at 74.82.233.205:9332. You're welcome to use either of those if you like. There are also a few other XT p2pool nodes out there. Keep in mind that optimizing performance with p2pool is a non-trivial task. Unless you have Spondoolies miners, I recommend you go with Slush's pool.

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