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January 23, 2018, 10:37:00 PM
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Hello together!

I'm aware that this might be a stupid question, but I just want to be sure on this - the adress of my shift web wallet is the one which is displayed above my 'profile picture' when I log in at https://wallet.shiftnrg.org/ right?

Thank you in advance!

Mith
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January 24, 2018, 07:23:30 AM
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Good job shift team! Bring to the world something worthwhile and your product will spread by itself  Wink
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January 24, 2018, 08:59:20 AM
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Hello together!

I'm aware that this might be a stupid question, but I just want to be sure on this - the adress of my shift web wallet is the one which is displayed above my 'profile picture' when I log in at https://wallet.shiftnrg.org/ right?

Thank you in advance!

Mith

Yes, that's right.
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January 24, 2018, 03:29:41 PM
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I can't wait to see the first part of the four whitepaper releases in 6 days!  Cheesy




Hello together!

I'm aware that this might be a stupid question, but I just want to be sure on this - the adress of my shift web wallet is the one which is displayed above my 'profile picture' when I log in at https://wallet.shiftnrg.org/ right?

Thank you in advance!

Mith

That's correct and don't forget to make a second passphrase! Keep your Shifts safe!  Smiley

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January 24, 2018, 04:26:07 PM
Last edit: January 24, 2018, 04:36:44 PM by KNA84
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Love the SHIFT project. Decentralize the internet! We are supporters of decentralized hosting. Hope that SHIFT has a bright future.


= intranet local ... and the peoples buy ?! pffff  Cry
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January 24, 2018, 08:41:39 PM
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I feel more exchanges would really boost Shift. Even smaller exchanges like cryptopia or newer ones like Kucoin would add a lot of value. Binance on the other hand, would mean it would moon.

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January 25, 2018, 04:04:10 AM
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Shift made it on the Weiss ranking?Huh Only 70 coins made it... shift is currently around rank 230 on coinmarketcap... this sleeping giant is getting restless. We'll see what happens when Weiss analyst get more time to dig into Shift, if it starts getting upgraded from C, we all saw how high tron and substratum went and this project is lightyears ahead of those two in terms of tech.
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January 25, 2018, 12:33:47 PM
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So do I understand shift correctly?  Smart contracts like eth, but with IPFS-based storage system to store HTML, javascript and images?  How does user who wants to create website/webapp/dapp pay for storage?  Is it per month?

Seems like nano wallet is just a light wallet?  How to run full node?

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January 26, 2018, 03:43:09 AM
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The volume and turnover of Shift are very large, and it is a relatively active coin since its own development, which shows that the coin is really excellent.
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January 26, 2018, 03:45:49 AM
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January 29, 2018, 01:09:54 AM
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  I haven't received any dividends from the delegates I voted for.   I would like to vote for some better suited delegates, but it costs me 1 shift? This doesn't seem fair.  Perhaps I can vote again for free after 1 year or so? 
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January 29, 2018, 11:29:39 AM
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 I haven't received any dividends from the delegates I voted for.   I would like to vote for some better suited delegates, but it costs me 1 shift? This doesn't seem fair.  Perhaps I can vote again for free after 1 year or so?  

Hi,

Here is the list of pools (delegates who share forged coins) : https://dpostools.com/SHIFT

With 1 shift you can vote for 33 delegates at the same time but you can vote for 101 delegates in total.
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January 29, 2018, 11:00:01 PM
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  I haven't received any dividends from the delegates I voted for.   I would like to vote for some better suited delegates, but it costs me 1 shift? This doesn't seem fair.  Perhaps I can vote again for free after 1 year or so? 

There has been some discussion of this over on Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ShiftNrg/comments/7s7jje/how_to_control_that_delegates_actually_share_like/).

Shift delegates will become 'better' as Shift becomes better known and the delegates have to compete more and try harder to earn your votes. However, that will take time, of course. In other dPoS projects, some delegates have a policy of refunding the voting fees as an incentive to get you to vote for them, so maybe eventually some Shift delegates will do this too.

Having said that, voting in a dPoS system is also a case of cost vs. benefit for the voter. Considering that Shift's inflation rate is relatively low and the cost of voting is 1 Shift, you need to have quite a few Shift in your wallet before it's cost effective to vote (or else you have to be willing to be very patient). This will improve somewhat as delegates compete with each other and pay out a higher % of their profits, but even then there will be a threshold number of Shift below which voting won't be (financially) worth it. (Incidentally, this is one weakness of dPoS systems--small holders have less incentive to vote, so decisions are based on the votes of only the 'wealthier' subset of holders. Every system has strengths and flaws, of course; that just happens to be one of dPoS's).
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January 30, 2018, 07:15:13 AM
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Today Shift x2?  Grin
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January 30, 2018, 07:27:02 AM
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can i learn shift's ipfs/phantom at where?
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January 30, 2018, 11:34:19 AM
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  I haven't received any dividends from the delegates I voted for.   I would like to vote for some better suited delegates, but it costs me 1 shift? This doesn't seem fair.  Perhaps I can vote again for free after 1 year or so? 

There has been some discussion of this over on Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ShiftNrg/comments/7s7jje/how_to_control_that_delegates_actually_share_like/).

Shift delegates will become 'better' as Shift becomes better known and the delegates have to compete more and try harder to earn your votes. However, that will take time, of course. In other dPoS projects, some delegates have a policy of refunding the voting fees as an incentive to get you to vote for them, so maybe eventually some Shift delegates will do this too.

Having said that, voting in a dPoS system is also a case of cost vs. benefit for the voter. Considering that Shift's inflation rate is relatively low and the cost of voting is 1 Shift, you need to have quite a few Shift in your wallet before it's cost effective to vote (or else you have to be willing to be very patient). This will improve somewhat as delegates compete with each other and pay out a higher % of their profits, but even then there will be a threshold number of Shift below which voting won't be (financially) worth it. (Incidentally, this is one weakness of dPoS systems--small holders have less incentive to vote, so decisions are based on the votes of only the 'wealthier' subset of holders. Every system has strengths and flaws, of course; that just happens to be one of dPoS's).

The Shift payouts I get are much lower than Lisk payouts per coins held, I hope this changes in the future.
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January 30, 2018, 10:16:18 PM
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Shift made it on the Weiss ranking?Huh Only 70 coins made it... shift is currently around rank 230 on coinmarketcap... this sleeping giant is getting restless. We'll see what happens when Weiss analyst get more time to dig into Shift, if it starts getting upgraded from C, we all saw how high tron and substratum went and this project is lightyears ahead of those two in terms of tech.

Pretty cool. At least they did do some reasonably thorough research and not just look at the top 10 marketcap and call it a day.

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January 31, 2018, 08:16:06 PM
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Where's the whitepaper update? Cheesy
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January 31, 2018, 08:20:31 PM
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So do I understand shift correctly?  Smart contracts like eth, but with IPFS-based storage system to store HTML, javascript and images?  How does user who wants to create website/webapp/dapp pay for storage?  Is it per month?

Seems like nano wallet is just a light wallet?  How to run full node?

Could someone address these questions for clarity about what we are into.

Also, Shift is older than many more projects talking about decentralized web, why we are so behind them. When we can make a leap chump to cross them? What next big things are in making?

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January 31, 2018, 08:32:36 PM
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So do I understand shift correctly?  Smart contracts like eth, but with IPFS-based storage system to store HTML, javascript and images?  How does user who wants to create website/webapp/dapp pay for storage?  Is it per month?

Seems like nano wallet is just a light wallet?  How to run full node?

Could someone address these questions for clarity about what we are into.

Also, Shift is older than many more projects talking about decentralized web, why we are so behind them. When we can make a leap chump to cross them? What next big things are in making?

The payment system will be released soon, nodes (different than delegates) could earn income by sharing their disk space into the Shift network IPFS (this is how I understand it) and with this customers will need to pay the storage fee to this nodes, and yes HTML, javascript, images, css, all kind of files.

Yes Shift nano wallet is light wallet, to run a full node you need to install the Shift core software: https://github.com/ShiftNrg/shift

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Why we are so behind them? what do you mean? can you point the real achievements (not whitepapers) please? have you tried using phantom in testnet Smiley ?

Things in the making, please read: https://www.shiftnrg.org/#/news/news-item/1  ... also this blog and the whole Shift website is fully hosted in decentralized fashion
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