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[tokeweed]

I get that United is suffering from its own inconsistencies in their performance and could lose vs a smaller club.  But losing to Zorya?  With the squad Mourinho has at his disposal, no way they're losing that match.

[Bitinity]

I get that United is suffering from its own inconsistencies in their performance and could lose vs a smaller club.  But losing to Zorya?  With the squad Mourinho has at his disposal, no way they're losing that match.

You miss the fact that it is a soccer game where both team has a chance to win the match. There is no "No ways" for a big team to lose against small team. There is always a way for a small team to win against big team. Indeed the chance for MU to win the match is much more bigger than Zorya but we cant ignore the fact that Zorya has small chance.
Like what MU got when they played against Watford. At that time many people thought the same as you (including me) that there was no way for MU to lose but the fact says the opposite. They lost with unexpected score (3-1).

[Falconer]

I get that United is suffering from its own inconsistencies in their performance and could lose vs a smaller club.  But losing to Zorya?  With the squad Mourinho has at his disposal, no way they're losing that match.

Yeah, but in fact, Zorya is quite tough in their own home ground, which both Fenerbahce and Feyenoord couldnt won there. Well since Man United just need 1 more point to qualify to knock out stage, then there is nothing to worry. But I dont think Man United can win there easily. Deep in my heart, I want Man United win the match, but I wont bet on them for a while.

[cicciobtc]

Who is next highest goal scorer on Champion's League?


Messi  (9 goals)                at quote@1.20
Lewandosky(4 goals)        at quote@12.00
Cristiano Ronaldo(2 goals) at quote@13.00
Cavani (5 goals)                at quote@15.00
Suarez(2 goals)                at quote@20.00
Aubameyang (3 goals)      at quote@21.00
Aguero (3 goals)              at quote@21.00

[tokeweed]

I get that United is suffering from its own inconsistencies in their performance and could lose vs a smaller club.  But losing to Zorya?  With the squad Mourinho has at his disposal, no way they're losing that match.

Yeah, but in fact, Zorya is quite tough in their own home ground, which both Fenerbahce and Feyenoord couldnt won there. Well since Man United just need 1 more point to qualify to knock out stage, then there is nothing to worry. But I dont think Man United can win there easily. Deep in my heart, I want Man United win the match, but I wont bet on them for a while.

Deep in my heart I would love for Man United to become a permanent laughing stock in England.    But come on, I get that they could lose to a lower side in the EPL, but Zorya?  Man United is gonna make minced meat out of them.  Ferguson will have a fit if they lose to a club called 'Zorya'.  I haven't even heard of them before tbh. 

[Falconer]

I get that United is suffering from its own inconsistencies in their performance and could lose vs a smaller club.  But losing to Zorya?  With the squad Mourinho has at his disposal, no way they're losing that match.

Yeah, but in fact, Zorya is quite tough in their own home ground, which both Fenerbahce and Feyenoord couldnt won there. Well since Man United just need 1 more point to qualify to knock out stage, then there is nothing to worry. But I dont think Man United can win there easily. Deep in my heart, I want Man United win the match, but I wont bet on them for a while.

Deep in my heart I would love for Man United to become a permanent laughing stock in England.    But come on, I get that they could lose to a lower side in the EPL, but Zorya?  Man United is gonna make minced meat out of them.  Ferguson will have a fit if they lose to a club called 'Zorya'.  I haven't even heard of them before tbh. 

Lol. Let me remind you
MK Dons vs Man Utd : 4-0

I'm sure most people even in England didnt know much about MK Dons at that time, but hmm well

[hasiramasenju]

Who is next highest goal scorer on Champion's League?


Messi  (9 goals)                at quote@1.20
Lewandosky(4 goals)        at quote@12.00
Cristiano Ronaldo(2 goals) at quote@13.00
Cavani (5 goals)                at quote@15.00
Suarez(2 goals)                at quote@20.00
Aubameyang (3 goals)      at quote@21.00
Aguero (3 goals)              at quote@21.00

on the previous season ronaldo has makes 16 goals and become the top scorer but looks like this season would be a bit different because he currently only just make 2 goals however probably messi will taking over ronaldo position this season and be the next top scorer

[tokeweed]

I get that United is suffering from its own inconsistencies in their performance and could lose vs a smaller club.  But losing to Zorya?  With the squad Mourinho has at his disposal, no way they're losing that match.

Yeah, but in fact, Zorya is quite tough in their own home ground, which both Fenerbahce and Feyenoord couldnt won there. Well since Man United just need 1 more point to qualify to knock out stage, then there is nothing to worry. But I dont think Man United can win there easily. Deep in my heart, I want Man United win the match, but I wont bet on them for a while.

Deep in my heart I would love for Man United to become a permanent laughing stock in England.    But come on, I get that they could lose to a lower side in the EPL, but Zorya?  Man United is gonna make minced meat out of them.  Ferguson will have a fit if they lose to a club called 'Zorya'.  I haven't even heard of them before tbh.  

Lol. Let me remind you
MK Dons vs Man Utd : 4-0

I'm sure most people even in England didnt know much about MK Dons at that time, but hmm well

Ok then let me ask you.  If you were a betting man, would you bet for Zorya to win in their upcoming match vs United?  What do you think is the probability of Zorya to win in that upcoming match?

Edit:  Just looked up the MK Dons game.  It was in the early stages of the League Cup and United were, I guess, still under Moyes then?  You have to take into account how important the game vs Zorya is for United at this point considering the bad runs they've been going through.

It's a different situation facing Mourinho.  You have to consider that.

[DIA7]

I get that United is suffering from its own inconsistencies in their performance and could lose vs a smaller club.  But losing to Zorya?  With the squad Mourinho has at his disposal, no way they're losing that match.

Yeah, but in fact, Zorya is quite tough in their own home ground, which both Fenerbahce and Feyenoord couldnt won there. Well since Man United just need 1 more point to qualify to knock out stage, then there is nothing to worry. But I dont think Man United can win there easily. Deep in my heart, I want Man United win the match, but I wont bet on them for a while.

Deep in my heart I would love for Man United to become a permanent laughing stock in England.    But come on, I get that they could lose to a lower side in the EPL, but Zorya?  Man United is gonna make minced meat out of them.  Ferguson will have a fit if they lose to a club called 'Zorya'.  I haven't even heard of them before tbh.  

Lol. Let me remind you
MK Dons vs Man Utd : 4-0

I'm sure most people even in England didnt know much about MK Dons at that time, but hmm well

Ok then let me ask you.  If you were a betting man, would you bet for Zorya to win in their upcoming match vs United?  What do you think is the probability of Zorya to win in that upcoming match?

Edit:  Just looked up the MK Dons game.  It was in the early stages of the League Cup and United were, I guess, still under Moyes then?  You have to take into account how important the game vs Zorya is for United at this point considering the bad runs they've been going through.

It's a different situation facing Mourinho.  You have to consider that.

Zorya has no benefit from winning over this match so they wouldn't be motivated to win the game so they would focus on other matters as they are already out from this competition and United need to get positive results from yjis time on and winning the europa league could be closer to them if they want to qualify for Champions League next year.

[Falconer]

Ok then let me ask you.  If you were a betting man, would you bet for Zorya to win in their upcoming match vs United?  What do you think is the probability of Zorya to win in that upcoming match?

Edit:  Just looked up the MK Dons game.  It was in the early stages of the League Cup and United were, I guess, still under Moyes then?  You have to take into account how important the game vs Zorya is for United at this point considering the bad runs they've been going through.

It's a different situation facing Mourinho.  You have to consider that.

It was under van Gaal. And at that match, there were De Gea, Evans, Anderson, Kagawa, Powell, Welbeck, and Hernandez in starting formation. Its okay if they lost just with 1-2 margin goals. But 4? Even 4-0

Well dont take it serious tokeweed, I surely will choose Man United win if Mou put Carrick into starting line up formation like I have stated before. Why I always said Carrick? Because from my little research, every time Carrick playing as starting player, Man United played great (won 4-1 vs Fenerbahce, won 4-0 vs Feyenoord in Europa League, and lately won 4-1 vs West Ham in EFL Cup).
Without him, then I wont bet on them nor Zorya, since its a risky for me. But if its Zorya vs Barcelona, I would put small bet on Zorya

[cazkooo]

Ok then let me ask you.  If you were a betting man, would you bet for Zorya to win in their upcoming match vs United?  What do you think is the probability of Zorya to win in that upcoming match?

Edit:  Just looked up the MK Dons game.  It was in the early stages of the League Cup and United were, I guess, still under Moyes then?  You have to take into account how important the game vs Zorya is for United at this point considering the bad runs they've been going through.

It's a different situation facing Mourinho.  You have to consider that.

Im totally not sure about him but Im personally might want to bet for zorya +2. The odds is not that great however the risk is sufficient with the odds, there is no way to tell how the game going to end however zorya might win unexpectedly so betting a small amount for them is actually not a bad thing

Edit : it seems he has answered

[siti25]

Who is next highest goal scorer on Champion's League?


Messi  (9 goals)                at quote@1.20
Lewandosky(4 goals)        at quote@12.00
Cristiano Ronaldo(2 goals) at quote@13.00
Cavani (5 goals)                at quote@15.00
Suarez(2 goals)                at quote@20.00
Aubameyang (3 goals)      at quote@21.00
Aguero (3 goals)              at quote@21.00

I think is clear, Messi Will be top scorer in champions league this season. Especially if Barcelona reach final. Ronaldo now is super in La Liga and messi is super in Champions league. them both is still always play good.

[Bigdan]

Who is next highest goal scorer on Champion's League?


Messi  (9 goals)                at quote@1.20
Lewandosky(4 goals)        at quote@12.00
Cristiano Ronaldo(2 goals) at quote@13.00
Cavani (5 goals)                at quote@15.00
Suarez(2 goals)                at quote@20.00
Aubameyang (3 goals)      at quote@21.00
Aguero (3 goals)              at quote@21.00

I think is clear, Messi Will be top scorer in champions league this season. Especially if Barcelona reach final. Ronaldo now is super in La Liga and messi is super in Champions league. them both is still always play good.

I guess since the group stage is coming to an end penaldo wouldn't be getting more easy matches to score tap ins and penalties like he did last year at the group stage;
Against Malmö = 6 goals
Against Shaktar = 5 goals
Against Wolfsburg = 3 goals
Against Roma = 2 goals
Total = 16 goals = goal king. No more goals until the final penalty in the finals

[Liad.Services]

Who is next highest goal scorer on Champion's League?


Messi  (9 goals)                at quote@1.20
Lewandosky(4 goals)        at quote@12.00
Cristiano Ronaldo(2 goals) at quote@13.00
Cavani (5 goals)                at quote@15.00
Suarez(2 goals)                at quote@20.00
Aubameyang (3 goals)      at quote@21.00
Aguero (3 goals)              at quote@21.00

I would take Christiano Ronaldo as in my opinion, the odds doesn't put the right judge on the situation.
Ronaldo is a crazy goal scorer who could score 3 triple at a game against low teams.
Also as we can see, Real Madrid performances recently are pretty good , so we can expect them to win the upcoming matches pretty easily.

[erwin45hacked]

Who is next highest goal scorer on Champion's League?


Messi  (9 goals)                at quote@1.20
Lewandosky(4 goals)        at quote@12.00
Cristiano Ronaldo(2 goals) at quote@13.00
Cavani (5 goals)                at quote@15.00
Suarez(2 goals)                at quote@20.00
Aubameyang (3 goals)      at quote@21.00
Aguero (3 goals)              at quote@21.00

I would take Christiano Ronaldo as in my opinion, the odds doesn't put the right judge on the situation.
Ronaldo is a crazy goal scorer who could score 3 triple at a game against low teams.
Also as we can see, Real Madrid performances recently are pretty good , so we can expect them to win the upcoming matches pretty easily.

The score is definitely based on the current goal scored at the champions league and the odds might be lower when ronaldo score more goal so it is actually not something surprising considering that he has only score two goals so far. You might want to start betting if you think ronaldo has a huge chance to win the top scorer

[Falconer]

Who is next highest goal scorer on Champion's League?


Messi  (9 goals)                at quote@1.20
Lewandosky(4 goals)        at quote@12.00
Cristiano Ronaldo(2 goals) at quote@13.00
Cavani (5 goals)                at quote@15.00
Suarez(2 goals)                at quote@20.00
Aubameyang (3 goals)      at quote@21.00
Aguero (3 goals)              at quote@21.00

I would take Christiano Ronaldo as in my opinion, the odds doesn't put the right judge on the situation.
Ronaldo is a crazy goal scorer who could score 3 triple at a game against low teams.
Also as we can see, Real Madrid performances recently are pretty good , so we can expect them to win the upcoming matches pretty easily.

Even though Ronaldo is a beast, I dont think he could reach overtake Messi in Champions League top scorer. Yeah he could score many goals in next matches, but Messi likely will do the same. Do you think Messi couldnt score any more goal and lets Ronaldo overtake him? I think the house put the right odds about it.

[dustboy]

Who is next highest goal scorer on Champion's League?


Messi  (9 goals)                at quote@1.20
Lewandosky(4 goals)        at quote@12.00
Cristiano Ronaldo(2 goals) at quote@13.00
Cavani (5 goals)                at quote@15.00
Suarez(2 goals)                at quote@20.00
Aubameyang (3 goals)      at quote@21.00
Aguero (3 goals)              at quote@21.00

I would take Christiano Ronaldo as in my opinion, the odds doesn't put the right judge on the situation.
Ronaldo is a crazy goal scorer who could score 3 triple at a game against low teams.
Also as we can see, Real Madrid performances recently are pretty good , so we can expect them to win the upcoming matches pretty easily.

Dont be so greedy to bet on Ronaldo as the top scorer. I know there are still many matches in CL and it is possible for him to score much more goals, but Messi is still there who is also a great goal scorer. The margin goal for both players is too big for Ronaldo to overtake. It is almost impossible to Ronaldo to be top scorer, unless Messi is stop playing (injuried) or Ronaldo constantly score at least 2-3goals per match while Messi is stuck on 7 goals.

[erwin45hacked]

Dont be so greedy to bet on Ronaldo as the top scorer. I know there are still many matches in CL and it is possible for him to score much more goals, but Messi is still there who is also a great goal scorer. The margin goal for both players is too big for Ronaldo to overtake. It is almost impossible to Ronaldo to be top scorer, unless Messi is stop playing (injuried) or Ronaldo constantly score at least 2-3goals per match while Messi is stuck on 7 goals.

Never say that it is impossible for him because both messi and ronaldo is actually quite different then the other football player so there is still chances for ronaldo to score more goals to catch up with messi's record and not impossible for him to beat messi anyway because both team going to advance furher in the champions league

[Bigdan]

Dont be so greedy to bet on Ronaldo as the top scorer. I know there are still many matches in CL and it is possible for him to score much more goals, but Messi is still there who is also a great goal scorer. The margin goal for both players is too big for Ronaldo to overtake. It is almost impossible to Ronaldo to be top scorer, unless Messi is stop playing (injuried) or Ronaldo constantly score at least 2-3goals per match while Messi is stuck on 7 goals.

Never say that it is impossible for him because both messi and ronaldo is actually quite different then the other football player so there is still chances for ronaldo to score more goals to catch up with messi's record and not impossible for him to beat messi anyway because both team going to advance furher in the champions league

Per my earlier statistics it's clear Ronaldo is done after the group stages ( where he meets easy teams, i.e..Malmö, Genk , Gent , Shaktar etc.) He could barely score a brace in the knockout stages; it's the team that works hard for him to take the glory. To bet on Penaldo for top scorer at this stage then you must as well consider making a charity donation.

[Patatas]

Dont be so greedy to bet on Ronaldo as the top scorer. I know there are still many matches in CL and it is possible for him to score much more goals, but Messi is still there who is also a great goal scorer. The margin goal for both players is too big for Ronaldo to overtake. It is almost impossible to Ronaldo to be top scorer, unless Messi is stop playing (injuried) or Ronaldo constantly score at least 2-3goals per match while Messi is stuck on 7 goals.

Never say that it is impossible for him because both messi and ronaldo is actually quite different then the other football player so there is still chances for ronaldo to score more goals to catch up with messi's record and not impossible for him to beat messi anyway because both team going to advance furher in the champions league

They aren't different in what sense ? Ronaldo has acquired those skills by hard work and dedication,Messi is naturally gifted.Do you see the differences ? I'd not be surprised to see Ronaldo beating the record soon since there is a higher probability that Messi would announce his retirement from the Game.