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February 16, 2018, 07:57:15 AM
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Real Madrid lost all chances to win Spanish Championship and Champions League is their main goal now. They struggle with their form during whole season and this is their game of the season. Same on the other side. PSG has to prove that they are championship team and that they have quality to win every competition with this team. Knowing the style of both teams, tonight is all about the goals... over 2.5, over 3.5, both team to score...all good bets. Who will be winner of this duel and who will qualified to next round is very hard to predict but great football show is guaranteed.

You had a good point there with Real concentrating on Champions league. I also thought there would be many goals, and there were.
I would like to point out that there was a long time since I saw such a lousy defense on a such an otherwise strong team. That guy - Lo Celso, he lost around 4-5 balls around his penalty box and I just cannot understand why he wasn't replaced. Finally, he also made a penalty. It is not one guy to blame though - and in this guy, not the player but the manager.

Real showed us again that a well-balanced team, playing together for a long time will almost always beat short time over-investments.

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February 16, 2018, 08:37:55 AM
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Roundly unsurprised at last night's outcomes, and even the "shock" loss of the Italian leaders was not too much of a surprise. You only need to look back at their performance in the Champions League group stages to have guessed that they'll continue to focus their efforts on maintaining top spot in Serie A. For the sake of Napoli, I hope it all pans out. They can still afford to win it away 2-0 next leg, I mean, it'd be a shame to see them miss out on a trophy even if they do end up pipping Juventus to the title!

My bet's on Dortmund or Athletico to reach the finals, maybe both if they don't meet each other first. Arsenal? Too inconsistent!

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February 16, 2018, 09:51:56 AM
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Dortmund vs Atalanta was such a good game!

I'm surprised about result of Nice - Lokomotiv Moscow match. Nice were leading 2:0 after goals of Balotelli, but then Loko managed to score 3 goals in a row in away game. Offcourse, important factor in this game was red card that Nice player got red card in the middle of second half.
It's not the first time that OGC Nice blew a 2-0 lead this season, so it isn't that surprising.

I'm surprised about Steaua 1-0 Lazio, and Napoli 1-3 Leipzig (especially this one, I didn't expect this score, and I think that goal in the 93' min is pretty much game over).

maybe napoli focus in serie A
because napoli only leading one point with second placed juventus

iam not believe play in home napoli lost 1-3 from leipzig bundesliga germany
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February 16, 2018, 10:08:05 AM
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Roundly unsurprised at last night's outcomes, and even the "shock" loss of the Italian leaders was not too much of a surprise. You only need to look back at their performance in the Champions League group stages to have guessed that they'll continue to focus their efforts on maintaining top spot in Serie A. For the sake of Napoli, I hope it all pans out. They can still afford to win it away 2-0 next leg, I mean, it'd be a shame to see them miss out on a trophy even if they do end up pipping Juventus to the title!

My bet's on Dortmund or Athletico to reach the finals, maybe both if they don't meet each other first. Arsenal? Too inconsistent!
Atletico Madrid are the most experienced club to play at the biggest competition like Europa league and champions league, just look at the odds, bookies make them as one of the favorite team to win the cup, but honestly when it comes to betting I would bet arsenal to win this time , they need to win something big this season, the investment on players was so big, the pressure are on them.

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February 16, 2018, 10:34:32 AM
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My boys Liverpool looking red hot at the moment, who is going to want to play is in the 1/4 final. Attack us if you dare, Mane Salah & Firmino are killers on the counter attack.

I hope both Man City and LFC don't draw any English teams for the quarter finals on March 16 (assuming some of them win their legs that is).  That would suck.

The Spurs is already 75% there imo with two away goals.

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February 16, 2018, 01:40:42 PM
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Dortmund vs Atalanta was such a good game!

I'm surprised about result of Nice - Lokomotiv Moscow match. Nice were leading 2:0 after goals of Balotelli, but then Loko managed to score 3 goals in a row in away game. Offcourse, important factor in this game was red card that Nice player got red card in the middle of second half.
It's not the first time that OGC Nice blew a 2-0 lead this season, so it isn't that surprising.

I'm surprised about Steaua 1-0 Lazio, and Napoli 1-3 Leipzig (especially this one, I didn't expect this score, and I think that goal in the 93' min is pretty much game over).
Wish I did watch this game if it was a good one as the score would tell you it was being 3-2.
I have but my faith in Dortmund Borrussia in the past and was disappointed in their previous attempts so just glad to see they have put on a brave face and managed to put up a good fight to keep this game theirs.
Congratulations to Dortmund and I think those recent changes helped their team to succeed and maybe get to the level they were playing at before.
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February 16, 2018, 07:47:46 PM
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Didnt played anything just watched several games and must say that PSG is having bad luck with Spanish teams. Maybe biggest surprise from all games in both CL and EL is match Red Star Belgrade and CSK Moscow they played draw and both team went for goal but without one in game. Must say that English clubs Liverpool and MNC are in next round for 100%.

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February 16, 2018, 09:45:06 PM
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Real Madrid lost all chances to win Spanish Championship and Champions League is their main goal now. They struggle with their form during whole season and this is their game of the season. Same on the other side. PSG has to prove that they are championship team and that they have quality to win every competition with this team. Knowing the style of both teams, tonight is all about the goals... over 2.5, over 3.5, both team to score...all good bets. Who will be winner of this duel and who will qualified to next round is very hard to predict but great football show is guaranteed.

You had a good point there with Real concentrating on Champions league. I also thought there would be many goals, and there were.
I would like to point out that there was a long time since I saw such a lousy defense on a such an otherwise strong team. That guy - Lo Celso, he lost around 4-5 balls around his penalty box and I just cannot understand why he wasn't replaced. Finally, he also made a penalty. It is not one guy to blame though - and in this guy, not the player but the manager.

Real showed us again that a well-balanced team, playing together for a long time will almost always beat short time over-investments.
from what it looks is that Real Madrid still a winner team especialy in Champiosnleague they were crappy again as they are always but i don't know how is it going real madrid keep going and win many times in CL trophy it will interesting if they can repeat what they done the season were they sacked Benitez PSG looks to be unluky against Spanish teams I think they are gonna need to fire Unai Emery he have proven that he is not the guy for top elite teams in Europe he must hired by teams like dortmund, arsenal at best even those teams can be pressured to work with as they sometimes asks for results but they are Known to be patient so PSG really needs a far better manager.
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February 16, 2018, 10:05:07 PM
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Real Madrid lost all chances to win Spanish Championship and Champions League is their main goal now. They struggle with their form during whole season and this is their game of the season. Same on the other side. PSG has to prove that they are championship team and that they have quality to win every competition with this team. Knowing the style of both teams, tonight is all about the goals... over 2.5, over 3.5, both team to score...all good bets. Who will be winner of this duel and who will qualified to next round is very hard to predict but great football show is guaranteed.

You had a good point there with Real concentrating on Champions league. I also thought there would be many goals, and there were.
I would like to point out that there was a long time since I saw such a lousy defense on a such an otherwise strong team. That guy - Lo Celso, he lost around 4-5 balls around his penalty box and I just cannot understand why he wasn't replaced. Finally, he also made a penalty. It is not one guy to blame though - and in this guy, not the player but the manager.

Real showed us again that a well-balanced team, playing together for a long time will almost always beat short time over-investments.
from what it looks is that Real Madrid still a winner team especialy in Champiosnleague they were crappy again as they are always but i don't know how is it going real madrid keep going and win many times in CL trophy it will interesting if they can repeat what they done the season were they sacked Benitez PSG looks to be unluky against Spanish teams I think they are gonna need to fire Unai Emery he have proven that he is not the guy for top elite teams in Europe he must hired by teams like dortmund, arsenal at best even those teams can be pressured to work with as they sometimes asks for results but they are Known to be patient so PSG really needs a far better manager.

Real Madrid has the mentality and the DNA to always be the protagonist and among the favorites in the champion's league even in seasons that seem negative.
On the contrary, the PSG, despite the money invested, does not have these characteristics.
the only coach who can allow the PSG to win the champion's league is Guardiola

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February 16, 2018, 10:05:51 PM
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Arsenal had a good win despite the weather, but the team he was playing had already come to a good place. How could Napoli be defeated in my own home in Leipzig did not make sense.

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February 16, 2018, 10:45:30 PM
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Arsenal had a good win despite the weather, but the team he was playing had already come to a good place. How could Napoli be defeated in my own home in Leipzig did not make sense.


I was really surprised to see the results of the match between Napoli and Leipzig. how can Napoli now become the top standings while Serie A get defeat from Leipzig which I think the quality of his players is under Napoli. But, this is any football can happen in the field. With the result, I have to be willing to get a loss for having bet on Napoli's victory.
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February 16, 2018, 11:23:01 PM
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Arsenal had a good win despite the weather, but the team he was playing had already come to a good place. How could Napoli be defeated in my own home in Leipzig did not make sense.


I was really surprised to see the results of the match between Napoli and Leipzig. how can Napoli now become the top standings while Serie A get defeat from Leipzig which I think the quality of his players is under Napoli. But, this is any football can happen in the field. With the result, I have to be willing to get a loss for having bet on Napoli's victory.

Napoli this year has decided to use all its energies in Serie A to try to win it.
Napoli had already decided to leave the Europa League and in fact used so many substitutes snubbing this competition.
If the Napoli wants to become a top team also in Europe must improve its mentality by playing all the games to the maximum of its possibilities and always trying to win.

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February 17, 2018, 12:00:26 AM
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Real Madrid has the mentality and the DNA to always be the protagonist and among the favorites in the champion's league even in seasons that seem negative.
On the contrary, the PSG, despite the money invested, does not have these characteristics.
the only coach who can allow the PSG to win the champion's league is Guardiola


Real Madrid seems to be another team in Europe.

They may have given up the league to prepare for Europe!

Ronaldo is still at such a high level at this age, and neymar may have to review himself, what he has brought to Paris!
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February 17, 2018, 10:14:28 AM
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Atletico Madrid are the most experienced club to play at the biggest competition like Europa league and champions league, just look at the odds, bookies make them as one of the favorite team to win the cup, but honestly when it comes to betting I would bet arsenal to win this time , they need to win something big this season, the investment on players was so big, the pressure are on them.

Your reasoning is very good. However I see Atletico Madrid as strong favorites, they have this winning mentality at the moment and Cholo Simeone is simply a better coach that Arsene at the moment. If it comes to that game Arsenal vs. Atletico it would be a great game but I see Simeone outperforming Wenger in every way. I don't understand what is wrong with Wenger, it's like he is not following the latest standards of the game anymore.......


....the only coach who can allow the PSG to win the champion's league is Guardiola


..... unlike Guardiola who is doing exactly the opposite. None of the things he brought into his teams weren't his invention, but he rather has this hybrid approach of learning everything he can from more experienced coaches. I still don't like him as a coach though. He went to win it all with Barcelona, but I think I could do it with that team..... After that he took over Bayern and destroyed 10 years of their previous work. He finally went to Manchester City.... and I see your point right there he seems very capable in managing teams that have this all-about-money approach. Since PSG and Manchester City are similar when it comes to that -yes I totally agree, I only don't agree that he is the only one. There are much better coaches out there, for me Guardiola has yet to manage a smaller team and show what he can really do when the budget is tight.


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February 17, 2018, 12:29:52 PM
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My boys Liverpool looking red hot at the moment, who is going to want to play is in the 1/4 final. Attack us if you dare, Mane Salah & Firmino are killers on the counter attack.

I hope both Man City and LFC don't draw any English teams for the quarter finals on March 16 (assuming some of them win their legs that is).  That would suck.

The Spurs is already 75% there imo with two away goals.
I hope city could be the champion in champions leagues in order to get 2 the degree of premiere leagues and champions leagues, because by doing so city will be the club bastards in between the club in europe, to see the performance of city now I’m sure that the city could be the champion in both the competition
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February 17, 2018, 12:55:05 PM
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On the contrary, the PSG, despite the money invested, does not have these characteristics.
the only coach who can allow the PSG to win the champion's league is Guardiola

The 'only' coach?  Don't think so...  I'm sure there are others out there besides Pep who could win them the CL like Zidane, Mou, Enrique and also prolly Simeone plus a couple others.  Given the amount they're willing to spend on players.

In Unai Emery's case, he realized a hard truth that the CL is a big jump from the Europa League.

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February 17, 2018, 04:06:33 PM
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Atletico Madrid are the most experienced club to play at the biggest competition like Europa league and champions league, just look at the odds, bookies make them as one of the favorite team to win the cup, but honestly when it comes to betting I would bet arsenal to win this time , they need to win something big this season, the investment on players was so big, the pressure are on them.

Your reasoning is very good. However I see Atletico Madrid as strong favorites, they have this winning mentality at the moment and Cholo Simeone is simply a better coach that Arsene at the moment. If it comes to that game Arsenal vs. Atletico it would be a great game but I see Simeone outperforming Wenger in every way. I don't understand what is wrong with Wenger, it's like he is not following the latest standards of the game anymore.......


....the only coach who can allow the PSG to win the champion's league is Guardiola


..... unlike Guardiola who is doing exactly the opposite. None of the things he brought into his teams weren't his invention, but he rather has this hybrid approach of learning everything he can from more experienced coaches. I still don't like him as a coach though. He went to win it all with Barcelona, but I think I could do it with that team..... After that he took over Bayern and destroyed 10 years of their previous work. He finally went to Manchester City.... and I see your point right there he seems very capable in managing teams that have this all-about-money approach. Since PSG and Manchester City are similar when it comes to that -yes I totally agree, I only don't agree that he is the only one. There are much better coaches out there, for me Guardiola has yet to manage a smaller team and show what he can really do when the budget is tight.


Guardiola's triumph at Manchester City is going to be entirely about spending money and he has indeed outspent all the European clubs since he became the manager at the Etihad stadium and that is the only reason why i deem him to be successful.

 
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February 18, 2018, 01:00:25 AM
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Atletico Madrid are the most experienced club to play at the biggest competition like Europa league and champions league, just look at the odds, bookies make them as one of the favorite team to win the cup, but honestly when it comes to betting I would bet arsenal to win this time , they need to win something big this season, the investment on players was so big, the pressure are on them.

Your reasoning is very good. However I see Atletico Madrid as strong favorites, they have this winning mentality at the moment and Cholo Simeone is simply a better coach that Arsene at the moment. If it comes to that game Arsenal vs. Atletico it would be a great game but I see Simeone outperforming Wenger in every way. I don't understand what is wrong with Wenger, it's like he is not following the latest standards of the game anymore.......


....the only coach who can allow the PSG to win the champion's league is Guardiola


..... unlike Guardiola who is doing exactly the opposite. None of the things he brought into his teams weren't his invention, but he rather has this hybrid approach of learning everything he can from more experienced coaches. I still don't like him as a coach though. He went to win it all with Barcelona, but I think I could do it with that team..... After that he took over Bayern and destroyed 10 years of their previous work. He finally went to Manchester City.... and I see your point right there he seems very capable in managing teams that have this all-about-money approach. Since PSG and Manchester City are similar when it comes to that -yes I totally agree, I only don't agree that he is the only one. There are much better coaches out there, for me Guardiola has yet to manage a smaller team and show what he can really do when the budget is tight.


Guardiola's triumph at Manchester City is going to be entirely about spending money and he has indeed outspent all the European clubs since he became the manager at the Etihad stadium and that is the only reason why i deem him to be successful.
I can't say that Guardiola succeeded with Manchester City because in the UCL match they have not met with other strong teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Juventus, and others. If Guardiola and Manchester City can beat all the club then I can say that Guardiola is the most successful manager in the world of football.
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February 18, 2018, 11:50:15 AM
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Atletico Madrid are the most experienced club to play at the biggest competition like Europa league and champions league, just look at the odds, bookies make them as one of the favorite team to win the cup, but honestly when it comes to betting I would bet arsenal to win this time , they need to win something big this season, the investment on players was so big, the pressure are on them.

Your reasoning is very good. However I see Atletico Madrid as strong favorites, they have this winning mentality at the moment and Cholo Simeone is simply a better coach that Arsene at the moment. If it comes to that game Arsenal vs. Atletico it would be a great game but I see Simeone outperforming Wenger in every way. I don't understand what is wrong with Wenger, it's like he is not following the latest standards of the game anymore.......


....the only coach who can allow the PSG to win the champion's league is Guardiola


..... unlike Guardiola who is doing exactly the opposite. None of the things he brought into his teams weren't his invention, but he rather has this hybrid approach of learning everything he can from more experienced coaches. I still don't like him as a coach though. He went to win it all with Barcelona, but I think I could do it with that team..... After that he took over Bayern and destroyed 10 years of their previous work. He finally went to Manchester City.... and I see your point right there he seems very capable in managing teams that have this all-about-money approach. Since PSG and Manchester City are similar when it comes to that -yes I totally agree, I only don't agree that he is the only one. There are much better coaches out there, for me Guardiola has yet to manage a smaller team and show what he can really do when the budget is tight.


Guardiola's triumph at Manchester City is going to be entirely about spending money and he has indeed outspent all the European clubs since he became the manager at the Etihad stadium and that is the only reason why i deem him to be successful.

Nope...  That argument is too simplistic, and it's trying to avoid the finer things of how Pep's football philosophy has helped propel Man City to the top.  Put a different manager on that same team and I don't think they'll achieve the same results.

Here's a good video breaking down Pep and his success this year.  

How Pep Guardiola Hacked The Premier League
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VrxAbv416c

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February 18, 2018, 12:06:14 PM
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Atletico Madrid are the most experienced club to play at the biggest competition like Europa league and champions league, just look at the odds, bookies make them as one of the favorite team to win the cup, but honestly when it comes to betting I would bet arsenal to win this time , they need to win something big this season, the investment on players was so big, the pressure are on them.

Your reasoning is very good. However I see Atletico Madrid as strong favorites, they have this winning mentality at the moment and Cholo Simeone is simply a better coach that Arsene at the moment. If it comes to that game Arsenal vs. Atletico it would be a great game but I see Simeone outperforming Wenger in every way. I don't understand what is wrong with Wenger, it's like he is not following the latest standards of the game anymore.......


....the only coach who can allow the PSG to win the champion's league is Guardiola


..... unlike Guardiola who is doing exactly the opposite. None of the things he brought into his teams weren't his invention, but he rather has this hybrid approach of learning everything he can from more experienced coaches. I still don't like him as a coach though. He went to win it all with Barcelona, but I think I could do it with that team..... After that he took over Bayern and destroyed 10 years of their previous work. He finally went to Manchester City.... and I see your point right there he seems very capable in managing teams that have this all-about-money approach. Since PSG and Manchester City are similar when it comes to that -yes I totally agree, I only don't agree that he is the only one. There are much better coaches out there, for me Guardiola has yet to manage a smaller team and show what he can really do when the budget is tight.


Guardiola's triumph at Manchester City is going to be entirely about spending money and he has indeed outspent all the European clubs since he became the manager at the Etihad stadium and that is the only reason why i deem him to be successful.

Guardiola is indeed a chequebook manager, I’d like to see him at a club wher he doesn’t have a seemingly limitless budhet.

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