‘Hamas-Israel deal imminent,’ to the dismay of Palestinian factions

[Ermon]

"actually, he's a bit of a liar"

Sounds like you just described 98% of every politician that's held/ran for an office.........in this world!

Think that 's why many lawyers become politicians.

[Blackeye433]

In 2002 the Saudi Peace initiative offered trade and recognition as well as a guarantee of Israel's security. The Arab world was optimistic and abuzz with plans to develop infrastructure and jobs for the Palestinians and Gaza.

The arabs rejected that deal.

[redandblack]

I was thinking ...

similar deals are quite dangerous for politicians ... remember Rabin: he had killed by a Jewish extremist just because he was looking for peace ...

But this time I would expect that an extremist of Hamas could kill his own leaders.

[rio3232]

There will be no peace. Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel and has proven, time and time again, that it doesn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about its own people.

If it's gonna happen, bye bye floating but nonetheless a real seaport... No, I think Israel has nothing to lose in this deal.

[KriszDev]

There will be no peace. Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel and has proven, time and time again, that it doesn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about its own people.

You are right but Hamas is not agreeing to peace, it's offering hudna - a long term truce on conditions hopefully acceptable to Israel. Their original demand (a few years ago) was hudna in exchange for full Israel withdrawal to 1967 border, the right of return and mass harakiri of all zionists on the planet or something like that Now it's a far more reasonable postion - truce in exchange for no rockets, no tunnels and jobs for Gazans.


Keeping my fingers crossed.

[rio3232]

You are right but Hamas is not agreeing to peace, it's offering hudna - a long term truce on conditions hopefully acceptable to Israel. Their original demand (a few years ago) was hudna in exchange for full Israel withdrawal to 1967 border, the right of return and mass harakiri of all zionists on the planet or something like that Now it's a far more reasonable postion - truce in exchange for no rockets, no tunnels and jobs for Gazans.


Keeping my fingers crossed.

Sadly, I have very little faith in Hamas... Someone will fire rocket then another, Israel will proportionately retaliate. Rinse, repeat. Bye, bye Gaza seaport.

I hope I'm wrong.

[KriszDev]

The absense of cheering excited "peace-loving" pro-Palestinian advocates aka (Israel hate mob) in this thread is also noted.

[Gijina]

Cheap labor for the Israelis, and high import taxes to Gaza via 2 tax ports before anything reaches Gaza.

Win win for the Israelis.

[KriszDev]

Cheap labor for the Israelis, and high import taxes to Gaza via 2 tax ports before anything reaches Gaza.

Win win for the Israelis.

Israel already has more than enough cheap labor, hundreds of thousands laborers from South-East Asia, the Phillipines etc, Israel can have half of Africa if it wanted to. It's win-win for the Palestinians but it's not what it's all about is it? For self-proclaimed pro-Palestinian supporters it's all about the elimination of Israel and nothing else.

[godlyitems]

Cheap labor for the Israelis, and high import taxes to Gaza via 2 tax ports before anything reaches Gaza.

Win win for the Israelis.

What tax port ? you are making things up, if its Gaza port Hamas will collect taxes, btw, they already do for any incoming supplies from Israel.

[Juliozz]

Israelis do not want Gazan workers any more.
They can go work in Egypt if they want, but they are not welcome in Israel anymore.

Gazan will get peace for peace. If they want war, Israel will react accordingly.
All this Turkey talk is just wishful thinking, nothing to do with Israel.

[Daewoo]

Israelis do not want Gazan workers any more.
They can go work in Egypt if they want, but they are not welcome in Israel anymore.

Gazan will get peace for peace. If they want war, Israel will react accordingly.
All this Turkey talk is just wishful thinking, nothing to do with Israel.

Gazans do not get peace for peace. Gazans get hell for peace. 100,000 homeless, power shortages make it difficult to even do operations, safe water is hard to find, the entire population is traumatised especially children. A significant number of the children now suffer from low growth due to malnutrition = something which can never be corrected and will in adulthood result in reduced IQ. Even new born babies are harmed by anemia by the siege
http://www.imemc.org/article/55049

Gaza is a warehouse for human beings to suffer in until Israel believes that the west has become sufficiently neo Nazi that it can commit mass murder/forceful expulsion from there and the sad thing is it may not be too long till we are.

The supposed deal with Gaza is to finalise the division of Palestine begun with the Israeli withdrawal and stop a proper solution for the Palestinians.

[qikager]

For self-proclaimed pro-Palestinian supporters it's all about the elimination of Israel and nothing else.

For self proclaimed Israel supporters it's all about the bigotry and persecution and nothing else.

OK, that's inaccurate.

It's also about pouring gasoline down Arabic throats, setting them on fire, and then faking outrage to a gullible 'international community' whilst at home the fascists openly march on the streets braying for more of the same.

[godlyitems]

Gazans do not get peace for peace. Gazans get hell for peace. 100,000 homeless, power shortages make it difficult to even do operations, safe water is hard to find, the entire population is traumatised especially children. A significant number of the children now suffer from low growth due to malnutrition = something which can never be corrected and will in adulthood result in reduced IQ. Even new born babies are harmed by anemia by the siege
http://www.imemc.org/article/55049

Gaza is a warehouse for human beings to suffer in until Israel believes that the west has become sufficiently neo Nazi that it can commit mass murder/forceful expulsion from there and the sad thing is it may not be too long till we are.

The supposed deal with Gaza is to finalise the division of Palestine begun with the Israeli withdrawal and stop a proper solution for the Palestinians.

I hate to tell you this but PLO objection to this deal is because they do want to continue the same pressure you oppose on Gaza, they want to show only Abu Mazen can strike deals with Israel, so what are you in favor of ?

[godlyitems]

For self proclaimed Israel supporters it's all about the bigotry and persecution and nothing else.

OK, that's inaccurate.

It's also about pouring gasoline down Arabic throats, setting them on fire, and then faking outrage to a gullible 'international community' whilst at home the fascists openly march on the streets braying for more of the same.

Its a cease fire propossal, can we enjoy 24h of fantasy before it gets canceled ?

[KriszDev]

For self proclaimed Israel supporters it's all about the bigotry and persecution and nothing else.

OK, that's inaccurate.

It's also about pouring gasoline down Arabic throats, setting them on fire, and then faking outrage to a gullible 'international community' whilst at home the fascists openly march on the streets braying for more of the same.

Oh I see, that's what explains the fact that Israel supporters in this thread are cheering for truce with Hamas, skeptical as we may be, while self-proclaimed Palestinian advocates are conspicuously quiet at best or spewing venom and hatred at worst. Thanks pal for proving my point.

[rio3232]

Gazans do not get peace for peace. Gazans get hell for peace. 100,000 homeless, power shortages make it difficult to even do operations, safe water is hard to find, the entire population is traumatised especially children. A significant number of the children now suffer from low growth due to malnutrition = something which can never be corrected and will in adulthood result in reduced IQ. Even new born babies are harmed by anemia by the siege
http://www.imemc.org/article/55049

Gaza is a warehouse for human beings to suffer in until Israel believes that the west has become sufficiently neo Nazi that it can commit mass murder/forceful expulsion from there and the sad thing is it may not be too long till we are.

The supposed deal with Gaza is to finalise the division of Palestine begun with the Israeli withdrawal and stop a proper solution for the Palestinians.

At the cost of $3mln apiece, were Hamas not spending these money on tunnels, they would have better electricity supply. And reduced IQ usually is a result of inbreeding.

My heart is bleeding... NOT!

[rio3232]

For self proclaimed Israel supporters it's all about the bigotry and persecution and nothing else.
OK, that's inaccurate.

It's also about pouring gasoline down Arabic throats, setting them on fire, and then faking outrage to a gullible 'international community' whilst at home the fascists openly march on the streets braying for more of the same.

So, Hamas is entering into a peace agreement with Israel thereby "pouring gasoline down Arabic throats, setting them on fire"? Eloquently put for sure, but how again does it make Israel vilian? Should have Israel refuse peace with Gaza? Palestinians seem to believe so, and so do you

[godlyitems]

Oh I see, that's what explains the fact that Israel supporters in this thread are cheering for truce with Hamas, skeptical as we may be, while self-proclaimed Palestinian advocates are conspicuously quiet at best or spewing venom and hatred at worst. Thanks pal for proving my point.

Its funny to see how ppl are "programmed", peace, co-existance or any kind of agreement is BAD because it gives Israel some breathing space and they call us warmongers

The second its gets cancelled they'll jump again accusing Israel of failing it even thou they were against it themselves. Europe may have cleansed itself from official Gov' anti-sematism but unleashing its radical left socialist-anarchists at Israel is one of their lowest attacks..

[godlyitems]

So, Hamas is entering into a peace agreement with Israel thereby "pouring gasoline down Arabic throats, setting them on fire"? Eloquently put for sure, but how again does it make Israel vilian? Should have Israel refuse peace with Gaza? Palestinians seem to believe so, and so do you

He has no idea what he wants, give him a few days to digest what we said all along, Hamas will eventually have to come in terms with Israel - shame on all the lives they sacrificed this far, and Israel isnt about to disappear....