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August 19, 2015, 01:04:46 AM |
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Dissonance
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August 19, 2015, 01:10:02 AM |
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yes and no signed pgp key = fake.
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btccashacc
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August 19, 2015, 01:14:11 AM |
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TibanneCat
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August 19, 2015, 01:16:22 AM |
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satoshi@vistomail is a fake address
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btccashacc
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August 19, 2015, 01:17:52 AM Last edit: August 19, 2015, 04:18:40 PM by btccashacc |
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satoshi@vistomail is a fake address
so i think people must stop discussion about XT because this is fake satosi, and fuder use it to make panic sell
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cocales
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August 19, 2015, 01:18:05 AM |
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Not real.
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tvbcof
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August 19, 2015, 01:18:14 AM |
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This: Satoshi Nakamoto satoshi at vistomail.com Sat Aug 15 17:43:54 UTC 2015 Previous message: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT 0.11A Next message: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing list. I had hoped the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would achieve widespread consensus. However with the formal release of Bitcoin XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my concerns about this very dangerous fork.
The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original vision, but nothing could be further from the truth. When I designed Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement. Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satoshi Nakamoto. Nearly everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it without being forced or pressured into it. By doing a fork in this way, these developers are violating the "original vision" they claim to honour.
They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to be. However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions. For example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network. Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and we should take more time to come up with a robust solution. I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism.
If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin a failed project. Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially robust. This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.
Satoshi Nakamoto
I've no idea if it is him or not. That is about what I would write if I had developed Bitcoin to the point that Satoshi did and then left the project as he did. If it actually is the guy, I'll feel good about being on the same wavelength.
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sig spam anywhere and self-moderated threads on the pol&soc board are for losers.
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Dissonance
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August 19, 2015, 01:26:44 AM |
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its fake dude if satoshi is still alive and make a return he wouldn't do it this way. Also he would be smart to know that nobody is going to believe him without a signed key.
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achow101
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August 19, 2015, 01:27:20 AM |
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satoshi@vistomail is a fake address
It is actually not since he used that email address for the very first announcements on the Bitcoin mailing list. It is likely to be a fake email and someone simply was able to get into that email address. Without a signed message with either PGP or known Satoshi addresses, this will considered to be fake. If it is Satoshi, he should see that people want a signed message and will provide it to prove his identity.
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btccashacc
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August 19, 2015, 01:32:22 AM Last edit: August 19, 2015, 04:17:00 PM by btccashacc |
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[quot e author=Dissonance link=topic=1156465.msg12179347#msg12179347 date=1439947604] its fake dude if satoshi is still alive and make a return he wouldn't do it this way. Also he would be smart to know that nobody is going to believe him without a signed key. [/quote] +1 i agree with you
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August 19, 2015, 01:33:20 AM |
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Hmm, must have misread it somewhere else. I stand corrected
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August 19, 2015, 01:43:09 AM |
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As to the MP was rightii part, see for instance
09-09-2014 11:56:30 <mircea_popescu> this has been long said here, the #1 problem with the bitcoin protocol is that it has no specific payment for relays, and it allows separation of mining and relay.
And yes, if you're going to play the "first" game, please, bring forth the documentation. (Should you fail to find anything worthy of mention on the line above, you can always try and find an alternative source for that now-widespread technical criticism, which wasn't nearly all that widespread back in December, back when the shitstains were claiming "consensus" and the support of "economists". Good luck.)
Shit, I've been hollering about this since I found at that transfer nodes were NOT rewarded which must have occurred back in 2011. Somehow I mis-understood this aspect of the whitepaper and/or some other source I was reading when I was trying to figure out Bitcoin in the first place. Like I've said before, I probably would not have even bothered with Bitcoin had I realized that transfer nodes were not, or were not anticipated to be, rewarded. The security model of the system doesn't make a lot of sense to me without this. Since I took some profits before Hearn got serious about collapsing Bitcoin, I'm glad I made this mistake.
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sig spam anywhere and self-moderated threads on the pol&soc board are for losers.
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August 19, 2015, 01:46:17 AM |
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As I know, this have been discussed here for several times (link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1153708.0). Please lock this thread and keep the discussion on that thread. BTW I think that mustn't be satoshi. He should sign a message from: 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.
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August 19, 2015, 01:47:09 AM Last edit: August 19, 2015, 01:57:59 AM by sick of life |
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i think it's fake
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worldinacoin
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August 19, 2015, 02:05:56 AM |
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Anyone can claim anything, you need to back up with proof of the person being the actual Satoshi
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tadakaluri
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August 19, 2015, 02:42:30 AM |
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As many time said already, that mail is FAKE. But it contains some valuable points which Bitcoin community agrees.
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August 19, 2015, 03:34:59 AM |
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Unsigned = Fake
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akaman
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August 19, 2015, 03:59:35 AM |
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This is VERY strange, as I have been transmitted the VERY SAME message telepathically from Satoshi MANY TIMES! Do you think it is a coincidence?
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August 19, 2015, 04:32:43 AM |
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Seems legit.
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