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August 19, 2015, 10:53:47 PM
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It won't happen, the CN pools won't support anything along the lines of a fork even if it does allow for larger block sizes. Even Bitmain alone can block a fork.
It is my understanding that the chinese pools, for the most part do not own the hardware they are mining with, so switching pools to one that does support XT (or any other fork) would be as simple as changing a few settings. It is also possible that something could change in the future that would convince the Chinese pools to support XT, perhaps if major a major payment processor were to publicly support XT.....I am not sure if any of them will though.

Many of the CN pools control large amounts of hash rate which they may not own but instead manage (inc cloud) so they can dictate what we do. And that will not be supporting XT (unless there is an overwhelming consensus). What everyone wants is for the developers to stop acting like children and just agree on a block size. Make it 1.1MB as a first step, see if everyone magically runs out of hard drive space and go from there.

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August 20, 2015, 02:55:40 AM
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It won't happen, the CN pools won't support anything along the lines of a fork even if it does allow for larger block sizes. Even Bitmain alone can block a fork.
It is my understanding that the chinese pools, for the most part do not own the hardware they are mining with, so switching pools to one that does support XT (or any other fork) would be as simple as changing a few settings. It is also possible that something could change in the future that would convince the Chinese pools to support XT, perhaps if major a major payment processor were to publicly support XT.....I am not sure if any of them will though.

Many of the CN pools control large amounts of hash rate which they may not own but instead manage (inc cloud) so they can dictate what we do. And that will not be supporting XT (unless there is an overwhelming consensus). What everyone wants is for the developers to stop acting like children and just agree on a block size. Make it 1.1MB as a first step, see if everyone magically runs out of hard drive space and go from there.

Go from there? You mean another hard fork? You never cease to amaze me with your intelligence, dogie alldick.
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August 20, 2015, 06:34:13 AM
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Fine, pretend to be impartial while picking one side to scold for not meeting your standards of genteel conduct.   Roll Eyes

There's no group of "utter dickheads" in which I'd rather be included than the one boasting Szabo, Back, BramCohen, theymos, gmax, pwuille, MeniR, laawj, ptodd, drak, davout, MP, hdbuck, and MoA.

If you haven't noticed, your XT-BECAUSE-OFFENDED meme (after some initial success while theymos took the weekend off) has failed.

I guess people love privacy and Tor more than they hate the core devs and theymos!   Grin

"XT-BECAUSE-OFFENDED meme"? what the hell are you talking about.
I was away from the forum for ten days, and I haven't kept up with
this squabble.

All I was saying that give XT a child board on its own, instead of
dumping all that stuff into regular altcoin section which is already
a chaotic cesspool.

But I guess during that ten days I forgot that making serious posts
into Bitcointalk is an exercise in futility.

Anyway, enjoy your civil war. Bitcoin being split into two doesn't really concern
me. <shrugs>




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August 20, 2015, 08:30:55 PM
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Fine, pretend to be impartial while picking one side to scold for not meeting your standards of genteel conduct.   Roll Eyes

There's no group of "utter dickheads" in which I'd rather be included than the one boasting Szabo, Back, BramCohen, theymos, gmax, pwuille, MeniR, laawj, ptodd, drak, davout, MP, hdbuck, and MoA.

If you haven't noticed, your XT-BECAUSE-OFFENDED meme (after some initial success while theymos took the weekend off) has failed.

I guess people love privacy and Tor more than they hate the core devs and theymos!   Grin

"XT-BECAUSE-OFFENDED meme"? what the hell are you talking about.
I was away from the forum for ten days, and I haven't kept up with
this squabble.

All I was saying that give XT a child board on its own, instead of
dumping all that stuff into regular altcoin section which is already
a chaotic cesspool.


XT is a perfect fit for the chaotic cesspool.

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The "XT-BECAUSE-OFFENDED meme" refers to the last ditch attempt of the Gavinistas to justify their attack using theymo's so-called "censorship" and/or rude conduct of Core supporters.


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August 21, 2015, 03:07:05 PM
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Definitely no. The problem isn't XT nor the forum's policy. It is the users that are constantly opening threads for the same topics in the wrong subsection.
If BitcoinXT deserves a section for itself, doesn't DASH (just used as example, I'm not advocating it) deserve one too? Are you trying to tell me there are more posts about XT than about DASH (currently ~105k)?

To simplify, the main reason for which neither have or are going to have their section is because this is BITCOINtalk, not bitcoinXTtalk, nor DASHtalk.

Dash is an altcoin, XT isn't.

XT is.

Not yet. But, it will be. Right now, XT is just an alternative coin. If they can gain 75%+ hash power, they'll allow bigger blocks and then that would be an alt coin.

It won't happen, the CN pools won't support anything along the lines of a fork even if it does allow for larger block sizes. Even Bitmain alone can block a fork.

I wish they dont. But, did not bitmain sign the letter supporting 8MB block ?

Supporting the idea that block sizes should increase, NOT any form of forming or XT which is considered dangerous. They want the core devs to work together.

Does not seem like you had any internal info. This is straight from the co-founder of Bitmain...

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I support increasing the block size. @BITMAINtech 's AntPool will be prepared to switch to XT, IF we see majority has switched.

https://twitter.com/JihanWu/status/633288343338381314

It is high time that core devs take proposals like BIP 100, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154536.0 or BIP 103 seriously.
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August 21, 2015, 03:11:10 PM
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Yeahh...
may be move all Thread about Bitcoin XT to trashcan Roll Eyes

and only 1 Thread, because i see so many troller at Create bitcoinXT Thread

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August 21, 2015, 07:47:12 PM
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The "XT-BECAUSE-OFFENDED meme" refers to the last ditch attempt of the Gavinistas to justify their attack using theymo's so-called "censorship" and/or rude conduct of Core supporters.


Gavinist: XT is open source!

iCEstream: It is an attack! It is an attack!

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August 21, 2015, 09:49:54 PM
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The problem with a lot of these threads the people may believe in XT but its coming across like a pushy religious guy at the front door when all you want to do Is eat.
Think the thread depth on this topic is getting past shoulder height,in other words we neck deep in it.

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