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August 20, 2015, 02:49:49 AM
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The idea is you have to have a sidehack usb stick to join it.

The european stick is also good.

We proxy the sticks to one btc addy and direct to ck's solo pool

25 shares 1 stick each is max.

a 60 day run. most likely you lose  but if you win you get about 1 btc.

so after 60 day you get 0 or close to 1 coin. If we hit it.

we need a way to track the 25 sticks to see they stay pointed to ck's pool

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August 20, 2015, 03:53:01 AM
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Do those sticks run without interrupt?  I ran a U3 for a few months, but I had to babysit it daily.  Restarted it daily because the days I didn't, I'd come back and it would be a zombie.

The user stat page at the pool would show the number of workers, and the hash rate. That would be close enough, no?

Wish I had one.  Good Luck!
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August 20, 2015, 07:53:23 AM
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1. Rent a minimal linux cloud virtual server (many providers now accepts Bitcoin).

2. Install proxy on it (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=611338.0;topicseen), it also has GUI, available via web browser, you can bind it to server's public IP address; configuration is easy.

3. All "stickers" Wink point their sticks to the proxy.

4. proxy uses solo pool as target pool.

5. Monitor statistics via proxies web GUI interface.

6. Cross you fingers Wink

Good luck!

(since Bitcoins will be generated to single address in case you find a block you also have to select one "sticker" that will later split the reward among "stickers", I guess that would be you, phillip)

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August 20, 2015, 01:16:54 PM
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Sounds like a fun idea.

However, right now, a separate setup to run just 1 stick and another setup to run 4 sticks (got 5 sticks coming), is not in the budget.

Unless there is a way to separate out 1 stick to point at it, and have the other 4 sticks running at the same time, on the same Pi?
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August 20, 2015, 02:14:22 PM
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Do those sticks run without interrupt?  I ran a U3 for a few months, but I had to babysit it daily.  Restarted it daily because the days I didn't, I'd come back and it would be a zombie.

The user stat page at the pool would show the number of workers, and the hash rate. That would be close enough, no?

Wish I had one.  Good Luck!

these sticks run and run and run and run and run and run.

I set my 2 at freq 250(with a fan) get about 13.5 gh a stick and use  about 5 watts a stick.

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August 25, 2015, 08:34:18 PM
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Sounds like a fun idea.

However, right now, a separate setup to run just 1 stick and another setup to run 4 sticks (got 5 sticks coming), is not in the budget.

Unless there is a way to separate out 1 stick to point at it, and have the other 4 sticks running at the same time, on the same Pi?

Could it be done running two instances of cgminer and blacklisting/whitelisting opposite devices on each instance?

As soon as I get my sticks I'm in, sounds like fun.
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August 25, 2015, 08:35:40 PM
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Could be a nice project. 100 stick will give us 1.5 th  Tongue not bad!  Grin

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August 25, 2015, 08:43:27 PM
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Could be a nice project. 100 stick will give us 1.5 th  Tongue not bad!  Grin

yeah 100 sticks at freq 250  should do 1.35th  …..    5 watts at the stick but you need count the controller

there are ways to run this and more sticks to your other pools.  you can run bfg miner and cg miner at the same time on a decent pc.

point to the proxy with the cg miner build and point to bfg miner the other sticks.  I did this on a few windows 7 builds  with gridseed blades and u2 sticks.


I think it is workable.  We will need a proxy that tracks the 100 sticks  and the hash rate.  it then needs to point it all at ck's pool.

everyone  mines to the proxy  this is very much like using nicehash's service to solo mine.

difference is it will be cheap to lose. (Assuming we never hit a block)

cost 25 for the stick and at 30 days  of mining  you spend  5 maybe 6 kwatts of power thats  only 1.20 usd at 20 cents a kwatt.

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August 25, 2015, 08:53:37 PM
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How would you verify people are using the sidehack stick?

They could just underclock other miners to be around the same Gh/sec.

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August 25, 2015, 09:22:27 PM
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How would you verify people are using the sidehack stick?

They could just underclock other miners to be around the same Gh/sec.

We can do with proof of purchase. There's not many people involved in NA, not sure about the rest.

Regardless this could be interesting. I was going to slap it on solo ck pool anyways. Slightly better odds for less payout could be doable.

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August 25, 2015, 09:42:47 PM
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Did I miss something?

Why limit it? If you buy Compacs, you can point as many as you like to the pool.

The technical specs as far as verification or whatnot is above my pay grade, but I think it would be a blast.


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August 25, 2015, 09:43:53 PM
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How would you verify people are using the sidehack stick?

They could just underclock other miners to be around the same Gh/sec.

We can do with proof of purchase. There's not many people involved in NA, not sure about the rest.

Regardless this could be interesting. I was going to slap it on solo ck pool anyways. Slightly better odds for less payout could be doable.

   same here I have 20 coming.

  I was pointing a few to ck a few to mmpool  and 10 rest goes to a forum member that lives in my home town.

So if a run 3 at ck  and 7 at mmpool.org    

  I have about x 13.33 gh or 40gh solo  chances of a full block are yea right like thats really going to happen.

If I use those 3 with 97 others  at 1333 gh  it really could happen  at least  it is 100/3  or 33.3 more likely to happen.

   and my other 7 plug along at mmpool.org


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August 25, 2015, 09:48:13 PM
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How would you verify people are using the sidehack stick?

They could just underclock other miners to be around the same Gh/sec.
We can do with proof of purchase. There's not many people involved in NA, not sure about the rest.

Regardless this could be interesting. I was going to slap it on solo ck pool anyways. Slightly better odds for less payout could be doable.

I'm sure we could work something out.

It would be a treat.

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August 25, 2015, 09:55:26 PM
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Apples, or lizards?

Novak spent the weekend working on cgminer drvers, and came in Monday morning with a test build (still very much not ready for deployment) that would light up a stick at 450MHz - that's almost 25GH, but was pulling 2.5A off the hub.

I'll probably point [at least] one stick at this [depending on the rules]. Good times.

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August 25, 2015, 10:03:51 PM
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Did I miss something?

Why limit it? If you buy Compacs, you can point as many as you like to the pool.

The technical specs as far as verification or whatnot is above my pay grade, but I think it would be a blast.



To put things into perspective it is fucking hard to hit a block with 1333 gh or 8000 gh.

Look at

http://mmpool.org/    we have been mining for 2168 hours  since the last block  we run 77000 gh

 Since  all of sidehacks sticks all 1200 are about 7,700gh (at freq 250)   they could mine for 21,680 hours or 2 years and not hit a block.

I thought about it lets say  everyone does it all 600 sticks = 600 x 13.3 gh (freq 250) = 8th  

we hit a block lets say 24 btc after fees  so   your share is 0.04 btc  and thats is not roi.
but 100 sticks is    .24 btc  and that is roi
and if you count all the European sticks  which we should we are at 1200 sticks max.

The idea is these are fun sticks not get rich sticks. For me if I hit a block and only get 0.04 btc (no roi)  vs 0.24 btc (yes roi) I would be
disappointed.  So 100 sticks = 0.24 pay out



 But  maybe we can run  a western and an eastern pool  like nicehash-westhash. That lets up to 100 + 100  sticks in on it.




I don't know enough about running the proxy  meaning can we run two proxies.  
Have to find out  who knows how to set the proxy up.  I have 3 idle windows pc's    all good quality not sure if that helps I run a node on one.

The other two sit and do nothing.  
One is an i7 4790k with a ssd and 16gb ram internet is 50 down 15 up  cat 6 wire.  I am thinking that could do a proxy easy.
Or I can do it on a lower powered i5  with good ups backup for the server and the router.

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August 25, 2015, 10:06:52 PM
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I am building 1000 sticks.

I could also set up a proxy on our webserver here at the shop. I actually already have older versions of slush and ckpool proxies on there from the hacks we made to get Tubes running last fall, but I don't have web UI anything for them. It's quittin' time now but tomorrow I'll follow that link a few posts back and do a bit of learning.

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August 25, 2015, 10:16:13 PM
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I would think that NastyPool's -PoP payouts would be ideal for these miners...  You would be supporting p2pool with 0% fees and would get payouts per hashes instead of accepted shares, thus allowing you to get steady payouts even with a very low hashrate.

https://nastyfans.org/nastypool/

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August 25, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
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The other two sit and do nothing.  
One is an i7 4790k with a ssd and 16gb ram internet is 50 down 15 up  cat 6 wire.  I am thinking that could do a proxy easy.
Or I can do it on a lower powered i5  with good ups backup for the server and the router.

You could easily run several proxies on these kind of machines. You just have to keep in mind that you would have to open a particular (specific) port from internet to your PC ... basically other "stickers" would then use stratum+tcp://philipma1957-public-ip:selected-port for connecting their sticks. And you would configure the proxy so that it would connect to your selected pool(s) - this way all hashing power that would come from other stickers, would be redirected to selected pool(s) ... I really encourage you to look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=611338.0;topicseen ... it's really easy to setup, examples and instructions are on the GitHub: https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

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August 25, 2015, 10:24:45 PM
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Im in for one stick.. I ordered 2 and one was going to cks pool at more or less stock settings anyway (the other stick is to do cruel experiments on) so Ill point it at this instead. its going on a HTPC thats on 24/7 anyway.
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August 25, 2015, 10:32:05 PM
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i like this club idea.. i havent purchased a stick yet, but im thinking about getting a couple..

but why limit it to one stick? you should just limit it to one share (per user), and then let them run whatever they want.. extra hash is a bonus and would help potentially get a block..


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