Eutanasia?

[iv4n]

If we have the right to live why do we not have the right to die? Laura made her decison, we need to respect that. Maybe it`s crazy, but nothing more then billion other things in this world.

[saddampbuh]

state sanctioned euthanasia should be reserved for the elderly and feeble minded

[subSTRATA]

state sanctioned euthanasia should be reserved for the elderly and feeble minded

i think it should be reviewed on a case by case basis, there's too many possible factors to consider when it comes to something like this (ex mental illness, chance of recovery, terminal illness, is the individual a threat to those around them, etc).

[saddampbuh]

i think it should be reviewed on a case by case basis, there's too many possible factors to consider when it comes to something like this (ex mental illness, chance of recovery, terminal illness, is the individual a threat to those around them, etc).

those unfortunates with lifelong mental illnesses whose conditions render them incapable of gainful employment along with people in their 80s and 90s with their pensions and endless hip replacements and alzheimers disease needing around the clock care are threats to those around them because they suck up resources that should be focused on improving the prospects of the young and productive

[pawel7777]

those unfortunates with lifelong mental illnesses whose conditions render them incapable of gainful employment along with people in their 80s and 90s with their pensions and endless hip replacements and alzheimers disease needing around the clock care are threats to those around them because they suck up resources that should be focused on improving the prospects of the young and productive

With the proper pension system, those 80-90yo pensioners accumulated more than enough in pension-contributions to pay for their new hips and Alzheimer treatment.

If you slaughter all the pensioners (don't confuse it with euthanasia) you're taking away many jobs for the young and productive (ie care-takers and hip-surgeons) making many of them young and un-productive. Not to mention that morale of those Y&Ps will likely be very low if they now they're going 6 ft under as soon as they stop being productive.

[saddampbuh]

With the proper pension system, those 80-90yo pensioners accumulated more than enough in pension-contributions to pay for their new hips and Alzheimer treatment.

by adding the word "proper" in there to cover yourself you're kind of admitting you know very well that the average pensioner hasn't paid into the system anything close to what he wants to take out. old people are the #1 reason healthcare and welfare spending is exploding across the western world and its going to keep getting worse until someone acknowledges it.

If you slaughter all the pensioners (don't confuse it with euthanasia) you're taking away many jobs for the young and productive (ie care-takers and hip-surgeons) making many of them young and un-productive. Not to mention that morale of those Y&Ps will likely be very low if they now they're going 6 ft under as soon as they stop being productive.

factories farms offices and shops are productive. taking an able bodied person out of the workforce to look after old people and robing the rest of us via taxes to pay for it is not productive.

the sister of this somalian guy i know is paid by the british government to be their father's full time carer. i kid you not. they came over here 20 years ago, got free government housing and now the government pays them to take care of their own family who have never paid a penny into the system. if we took their free money away you might be surprised at how many families in this situation decide to take up the kind offer of voluntary euthanasia for their relatives.

[TECSHARE]

Maybe spelling the title of the thread subject matter is a good idea...

https://youtu.be/K6qGwmXZtsE?t=77

[SebastianJu]

Sorry if this sounds dumb, but, what is the point on euthanasia? why do not you simply shot yourself, jump from a bridge, drink poison, whatever?

I do agree with the poster above that some psychological test should be carried out, but if you are not mentally ill and still want to die, who are we to deny your will?

The thing might be that poison might hurt very much, jumping from bridge is the same and shooting yourself is something not everyone can do because no weapon is available.

I think in reality it is an act of cowardice to let this others do. Hurting yourself surely will be harder to do.

[pilscoop]

I say go for it. It's your life and you should get to decide if you want to live or not. I would make it mandatory to have a psych evaluation first though.

[saturn643]

I think one reasonable argument against euthanasia is that it might pressure some people into dying before they are ready.

[bryant.coleman]

IMO, if someone want to commit suicide, then psychiatric counselling and other forms of help should be given to that person. However, if the individual is still adamant with his decision, then he should be allowed to do what he want. Every year, more than a million individuals commit suicide. It is not possible to save all of them.

[SebastianJu]

I think there is a reason why this is not allowed in many countries, the same why there is a reason for protecting childs from sexual acts. The reason for the latter is that they can't see what they would do, what it means and so on. Molesters often claim it should be ok when the child wants it. But the child is not ready yet to decide things like this.

The same is for people being in a mental state that can be changed. People that decide to die and are in such a state should be protected from themselves. Of course if someone is sick without chance and he went through through a reasonable psychatric treatment and there is no chance anymore, then society can say it's ok.

But in many cases society would need to protect these people against their own mental status. Which can go over very often. But then it's done if youre dead.

Same goes for the death sentence. Too many innocent people died. Death simply is something you can't undone once you realize you made a wrong decision.

[ObscureBean]

Lol it boggles my mind how this could even remotely be considered a problem, especially by people who have absolutely nothing to do with the woman in question    I mean seriously, it is after all her life you're talking about not your own, what is it to you if she chooses to end her life??  Not that it even matters but would you even know what it might be like to be plagued by suicidal thoughts because everyday life is hell   When people start thinking they know what's best for a complete stranger without knowing the first thing about that person, that's when you know the shit's about to hit the fan 

[SebastianJu]

Lol it boggles my mind how this could even remotely be considered a problem, especially by people who have absolutely nothing to do with the woman in question    I mean seriously, it is after all her life you're talking about not your own, what is it to you if she chooses to end her life??  Not that it even matters but would you even know what it might be like to be plagued by suicidal thoughts because everyday life is hell   When people start thinking they know what's best for a complete stranger without knowing the first thing about that person, that's when you know the shit's about to hit the fan 

Well, when i read what you wrote then it sounds a bit like you make a general problem of caring for others. Since yes, it is considered good habits to care about others and protect them.

Maybe it's hell with suicidal thoughts, but they have a reason. May it be a sickness, an imbalance in the brain or something, that can be treated with medicines.

And you sound like those thougths are not very alien to you. Then you should know that it is a phase most of the time.

I think you really shouldn't complain about people caring for others. We all need help at one time or another.

[TheButterZone]

Peoples' free will that doesn't victimize others is either respected or it isn't.

Forced administration of medicine that lowers your quality of life is indefensible enough, but when that in some cases turns off your moral compass and in some of those cases results in you becoming a mass murderer, is the epitome of evil.

[Losvienleg]

Eutanasia is a bad thing. No one except God has the right to make people die, and the doctors who are doing this will suffer in Hell for the eternity the same way as those who are performing pregnancy interuption. The worst of the two is the pregnancy interuption because the child who are killed didn't wanted it while the stupids ones who die thanks to eutanasia have chosen it.

The only way a man can kill another man is for death penalty against a criminal or a soldier who kill another soldier, but not a bitch that "don't want anymore of the life  " !

[Santoso]

Eutanasia for perfectly healthy people who have suicidal-thoughts?? It's really bad things the doctors do. Doctors' job is to cure people illness not to kill healthy people eventhough it's their own wish to die.  If they have suicidal thoughts they should go to psychiatrists or pychologist to erase that crazy thought instead of going to doctors who have eutanasia for them. Both sides are stupid 

[SebastianJu]

Eutanasia for perfectly healthy people who have suicidal-thoughts?? It's really bad things the doctors do. Doctors' job is to cure people illness not to kill healthy people eventhough it's their own wish to die.  If they have suicidal thoughts they should go to psychiatrists or pychologist to erase that crazy thought instead of going to doctors who have eutanasia for them. Both sides are stupid 

Not long and we will have suicide cells like in futurama. Maybe not exactly the same but it seems it's not so hard to predict what the future brings.

https://youtu.be/4-vRpQ0YyYo

[Lenore]

I would never do it.   I would administer it if someone was in pain and suffering.  But to myself I could not.  Someone healthy I couldn't do it either.

To each is their own.  I'm for it yet against it.  I guess it would depend on situation.  But then again I wouldn't want my brother sister to have it done or friends for that matter.  Maybe only if they wee suffering from a disease or in extreme pain that they were unable to get rid of.

Up in the air really.  But if someone wants it done to themselves it should be there choice.  I'm not up for telling someone how to live or how there life should end.

Just my thoughts.  Sensitive subject really.

[snipie]

Doctors are here to save people life, treat them and relieve their pain. Not to end their life!
And why we have psychiatric, pain killers then!!!
I see a crime not an euthanasia here.