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November 13, 2023, 10:56:51 AM
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Analysis on point. Just to add  to your points.
The last five games have seen two draws and two win from Juventus with a single win for Inter Milan last season. At home, Juventus have won five games with two goals conceded, but generally in the last five meetings in the league they've just conceded once and won all rest with clean sheets.

It's almost same for Inter Milan and they play from away. The game would be in favor of the old ladies, or a draw. Personally I'm diving in to bet that game a fulltime draw. Next two weeks, the games in the Seria A Scudetto will be very interesting and tough.

I still think Inter will be the favorite. but these two teams have quite equal strength. Juventus is quite strong with their defense. but they are less productive on the attack line. This is different from Inter, which this season has been very productive in scoring goals. Lautaro Martinez is the temporary top scorer with 12 goals.
However Juventus will play at home, and it will not be easy for Inter to beat Juventus at home. they will be quite solid. but the match could be a draw or Inter will be more dominant.
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November 13, 2023, 11:01:44 AM
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Napoli's loss to empoli was a sad one for me because I really anticipated Napoli's win in that match but how it turned out that Napoli struggled all through that game and at the end they lost when empoli got through their defense and netted a goal at the later minutes of the second half.

I think it's now obvious osimhens absence is definitely affecting Napoli in a way, he is currently injured and was unable to play in that match and their performance was really not good enough as it has been when osimhen hasn't been injured. empoli did performed well tho for a team that has not been any good this season and are just a point away from relegation, them seem to have some kind of strength with bigger teams as Napoli happens to be the second big team in the serie A they have won this season.
Without Osimhen Napoli began to be fragile and difficult to win back in Serie A and UCL matches, this could affect new coach Rudi Garcia who could not handle his team well even with the previous coach Napoli was so fierce always winning matches but now it has started to experience a slump.

Until when Victor Osimhen will recover his real Napoli really need a great striker like him, I think other players can't help more because despite controlling the game and always dominating the attack but still lacking in finding goal opportunities, so the possibility of Napoli clearly needs Osimhen.

One more Rudi Garcia is not a great coach.

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November 13, 2023, 11:11:50 AM
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Napoli's loss to empoli was a sad one for me because I really anticipated Napoli's win in that match but how it turned out that Napoli struggled all through that game and at the end they lost when empoli got through their defense and netted a goal at the later minutes of the second half.

I think it's now obvious osimhens absence is definitely affecting Napoli in a way, he is currently injured and was unable to play in that match and their performance was really not good enough as it has been when osimhen hasn't been injured. empoli did performed well tho for a team that has not been any good this season and are just a point away from relegation, them seem to have some kind of strength with bigger teams as Napoli happens to be the second big team in the serie A they have won this season.
Without Osimhen Napoli began to be fragile and difficult to win back in Serie A and UCL matches, this could affect new coach Rudi Garcia who could not handle his team well even with the previous coach Napoli was so fierce always winning matches but now it has started to experience a slump.

Until when Victor Osimhen will recover his real Napoli really need a great striker like him, I think other players can't help more because despite controlling the game and always dominating the attack but still lacking in finding goal opportunities, so the possibility of Napoli clearly needs Osimhen.

One more Rudi Garcia is not a great coach.
The problem is not only from Osimhen alone for now because several other reasons can also still be used as reasons why Napoli are now still experiencing problems and their performance is very different when compared to last season such as internal problems that still haunt with some tenuous relationships between players and the situation of changing coaches who until now have not gone well for Napoli which makes this complicated and difficult to solve the problem for Napoli.
At the moment they have to start over from scratch because if their performance continues like this then it will indeed be very difficult for them to survive in the current situation where the worst possibility at the moment is not only the Champions League but Serie A and the Scudetto hunt could also be impossible for them.
The point difference with Inter at the top is already 10 points now meaning this is still a big job for Napoli if they really want to compete this season.

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November 13, 2023, 11:14:26 AM
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Dimarco's extraordinary goal from 56 meters from the left side of the defense was the goal of the season and is likely to be nominated for the Puskas award. Even in an interview after the match, Mikhitaryan shared the same opinion as everyone who thought it was a cross for Denzel, but instead the ball soared high and finally dived into Frosinone's goal.

After that, in the second half, Inter again increased the goal difference through the penalty scored by Çalhanoğlu. Inter's victory is pretty much guaranteed with these 2 goals and it looks like Inter will still be consistent until week 12. As a result, Inter can still widen the gap from Juventus and Frosinone is still in 12th position in the standings even though they previously won against Empoli.

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November 13, 2023, 11:28:59 AM
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I still think Inter will be the favorite. but these two teams have quite equal strength. Juventus is quite strong with their defense. but they are less productive on the attack line. This is different from Inter, which this season has been very productive in scoring goals. Lautaro Martinez is the temporary top scorer with 12 goals.
However Juventus will play at home, and it will not be easy for Inter to beat Juventus at home. they will be quite solid. but the match could be a draw or Inter will be more dominant.
When facing Frosinone, to be honest, Inter looked quite overwhelmed because Frosinone's defense was very focused on Martinez, this is what made him unable to score even one goal even though there were several opportunities created.  Inter is really in very good form, Inzaghi's effective strategy seems to be starting to emerge.

for Napoli, well their current performance is not as good as last season, Napoli clearly looks very dependent on Osimhen, Empoli's goal in the 91st minute was really bad luck for Napoli.

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November 13, 2023, 11:38:20 AM
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Dimarco's extraordinary goal from 56 meters from the left side of the defense was the goal of the season and is likely to be nominated for the Puskas award. Even in an interview after the match, Mikhitaryan shared the same opinion as everyone who thought it was a cross for Denzel, but instead the ball soared high and finally dived into Frosinone's goal.

After that, in the second half, Inter again increased the goal difference through the penalty scored by Çalhanoğlu. Inter's victory is pretty much guaranteed with these 2 goals and it looks like Inter will still be consistent until week 12. As a result, Inter can still widen the gap from Juventus and Frosinone is still in 12th position in the standings even though they previously won against Empoli.
His left foot shot was really great, yes an extraordinary goal from him, everyone was surprised to see it including me. Indeed seem like really worthy to be nominated for the Puskas award, a phenomenal goal like that is the best goal.

Inter Milan is motivated to win the title this season, they will most likely continue in optimal performance. But on next Matchday 13, Inter will have a big test ahead, if according to the schedule they will face against Juventus.

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November 13, 2023, 11:43:36 AM
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The game is almost over for Inter.

Majestic goal for DiMarco and Inter back in the lead of the League

That was beautiful, it seemed like a cross to me until I had to see it from another view. They should enjoy the top while it lasts, even if they remain the best side in the league they should prepare hard for the fixture against Juventus.
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I have no words how this is even possible in Var time.

Yes I did see it, and it was really worth it. I don't think it was gifted there was a slight contact even if he had no intention
You need no VAR before you say it wasn't a penalty. Cahlhnoglu Hakan scored from the spot kick to score that one.
There might be a contact in the penalty position but I don't think it was a well worth penalty. Those kind of contacts, when player already trying to deceive and starting to fall, should not be given to penalty in my opinion. It just seems right that way. Nevertheless, Inter was definitely the better side and deserved to win. Dimarco's goal was fantastic. He's definitely a Puskas candidate. The best left-back in the active world is Federico Dimarco. Inter 31 - Juventus 29 points. After the national break, perhaps the most critical match of the season will be played in Italy. "Juventus v Inter"

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November 13, 2023, 11:58:43 AM
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Analysis on point. Just to add  to your points.
The last five games have seen two draws and two win from Juventus with a single win for Inter Milan last season. At home, Juventus have won five games with two goals conceded, but generally in the last five meetings in the league they've just conceded once and won all rest with clean sheets.

It's almost same for Inter Milan and they play from away. The game would be in favor of the old ladies, or a draw. Personally I'm diving in to bet that game a fulltime draw. Next two weeks, the games in the Seria A Scudetto will be very interesting and tough.
Juventus vs Inter Milan will be a really tough match and I think that match will also be watched by many people to see which of them will be the best team this season, because both teams are currently still showing their best performances in every match so both of them will give their best to win the match, although I only have enough confidence in Juventus for the match and that's not because Juventus is playing at home. But it is more about the strength and level of consistency that both teams have this season.

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November 13, 2023, 12:13:13 PM
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Napoli continues to surprise, losing against one of the weakest teams in the league. Of course, they had a bit of an unlucky evening, Napoli was the dominant team in the match, but they failed to score a goal.
A team that cannot score has no chance of winning the match, and when they made a mistake towards the end of the match and conceded a goal, they lost 3 points. Looks like this season won't go well for them Smiley

Rudi Garcia could have good results so far in Napoli. We know Napoli is not a weak team and they were in the top side of the table during this season, however, Napoli also had a good performance in the last season but I don't think if we can even expect to see a good performance from Napoli like we saw from them in the last season with Spalletti because the situation is not the same.

For some reason, I think Rudi Garcia may not fully understand what Napoli is all about. Sincerely, their success has been like a roller coaster. That being said, it's one thing to lose to top teams, but to struggle at home against Empoli raises a lot of red flags. They tried several times but couldn't score! This is very different from last season when Spalletti was in charge. I'm worried now that getting into the Champions League is their most likely goal. The games coming up against Atalanta, Inter Milan, Juventus, and Real Madrid will be tough. These sides are tough to beat, but Atalanta might be an exception. They are going to have a hard time

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November 13, 2023, 12:46:28 PM
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Napoli's loss to empoli was a sad one for me because I really anticipated Napoli's win in that match but how it turned out that Napoli struggled all through that game and at the end they lost when empoli got through their defense and netted a goal at the later minutes of the second half.

I think it's now obvious osimhens absence is definitely affecting Napoli in a way, he is currently injured and was unable to play in that match and their performance was really not good enough as it has been when osimhen hasn't been injured. empoli did performed well tho for a team that has not been any good this season and are just a point away from relegation, them seem to have some kind of strength with bigger teams as Napoli happens to be the second big team in the serie A they have won this season.
Without Osimhen Napoli began to be fragile and difficult to win back in Serie A and UCL matches, this could affect new coach Rudi Garcia who could not handle his team well even with the previous coach Napoli was so fierce always winning matches but now it has started to experience a slump.

Until when Victor Osimhen will recover his real Napoli really need a great striker like him, I think other players can't help more because despite controlling the game and always dominating the attack but still lacking in finding goal opportunities, so the possibility of Napoli clearly needs Osimhen.

One more Rudi Garcia is not a great coach.

I hope and wished they see it the way you see it but they don't, they're ungrateful, when you read about Napoli's success from last season, they gave glory to Khivicha Kvaratskhelia being the source of them winning the Italian Seria A last season.
We all know how Victor Oshime scored back to back games as he helped the club but they will never praise who's worthy why?

Khivicha Kvaratskhelia has a good work rate but putting him and rating him ahead of Victor Oshime sucks. I would love to see Victor Oshime leaving Napoli anyways, the disrespect earlier this season enough for him! Napoli are now ten points behind league leaders Inter Milan after they successfully won last night.

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November 13, 2023, 12:47:23 PM
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Without Osimhen Napoli began to be fragile and difficult to win back in Serie A and UCL matches, this could affect new coach Rudi Garcia who could not handle his team well even with the previous coach Napoli was so fierce always winning matches but now it has started to experience a slump.

Until when Victor Osimhen will recover his real Napoli really need a great striker like him, I think other players can't help more because despite controlling the game and always dominating the attack but still lacking in finding goal opportunities, so the possibility of Napoli clearly needs Osimhen.

One more Rudi Garcia is not a great coach.
Even during Spalletti's coaching period, we can see that Napoli had quite bad match results when Osimhen was absent due to injury. And now that Osimhen is injured again and is certain to be absent for more than a month, it will certainly have a big impact on Napoli's performance. Maybe Napoli will be fine when facing weak opponents. But when you face a tough opponent, you will start to see how different it is when Osimhen is on the field and when Osimhen is not on the field.

That is why Osimhen was priced very expensively in the transfer market yesterday. Because Napoli know very well that Osimhen is really needed at the club. But it's a shame that currently the relationship between Osimhen and the club is starting to become less harmonious after several problems that occurred regarding videos making fun of Osimhen and the like which made Osimhen start to think about leaving. And now even though Osimhen hasn't left, Osimhen is injured and this has made the Napoli team weak in attack.

I personally don't want to blame Rudi Garcia. But it's true that Garcia is not as good as Spalletti.

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November 13, 2023, 12:55:18 PM
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I still think Inter will be the favorite. but these two teams have quite equal strength. Juventus is quite strong with their defense. but they are less productive on the attack line. This is different from Inter, which this season has been very productive in scoring goals. Lautaro Martinez is the temporary top scorer with 12 goals.
However Juventus will play at home, and it will not be easy for Inter to beat Juventus at home. they will be quite solid. but the match could be a draw or Inter will be more dominant.

A Juventus victory would change the situation in Serie A, but the probability of this is estimated at 3.45. To be honest, this odds look very tempting to me despite Juventus’ weaknesses. As for the race for the title, it is obvious that there are actually two participants left in it:

Inter 1.62

Juventus 3.75

Ac Milan 8.00

Napoli 13.00

The gap from the other clubs is too great and if I were Milan and Napoli, I would rather worry about getting into the top 4 than about the title.

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November 13, 2023, 01:02:12 PM
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Quote from: xzone
Napoli continues to surprise, losing against one of the weakest teams in the league. Of course, they had a bit of an unlucky evening, Napoli was the dominant team in the match, but they failed to score a goal.
A team that cannot score has no chance of winning the match, and when they made a mistake towards the end of the match and conceded a goal, they lost 3 points. Looks like this season won't go well for them Smiley

It was a surprised match seen Napoli that won last season Italian league title was defeated by small team 0-1 in their home without allowed Napoli to score a single goal from the first half till the end of the match which is a big disgrace to Napoli players, and their manager need to do something fast to prepare his players so that they will not really miss victor Osimhen when he leave the team next year. I came to discovered that since the manager refused to use Victor Osimhen in some matches has make Napoli to begin to struggle for draw matches for small teams they use to defeat with many goals through Victor Osimhen, which will really make the fans of Napoli to miss Osimhen when his contract expire next year. Napoli defenders really try their best in this match but their strikers missed many opportunities that would have make Napoli to defeat Empoli 3-1 but the match ended up in the favour of Empoli to embrace the three points.

I think that's enough to explain what happened with napoli by seeing the stats. Playing without osimhen makes napoli likes a different team. It seems like that osimhen was a key for napoli to win the last season. Losing him due to the injury makes napoli play so badly. I must admit that if napoli kinda different after it was being coached by rudi garcia. Many complaints have been coming to sack him but napoli didn't even give response regarding it. The situation of napoli is worsening after it was getting some terrible results in a row. No chance for napoli to defend the scudetto. Garcia needs to be sacked or he will be a boomerang for the club. Garcia could not keep the mentality from the players to be stable. Many people doubted napoli once osimhen injured.
I can't even expect napoli to enter into the top 4 again as well as acmilan at the end of season. Napoli is finished. Some clubs like napoli and acmilan are digging their graveyard.

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November 13, 2023, 01:24:05 PM
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The point about Ac Milan is they usually have many injured players on their team. Maybe AC Milan should start thinking about the reason for the problems they have because I think this team had many injured players, especially in this season and that's maybe because of the bad recovery or bad training they had in their team.
So far in this season AC Milan had 18 injured players and in the last season, they had 11 injured players which is a lot and challenging for their coach Pioli.


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November 13, 2023, 01:54:37 PM
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The point about Ac Milan is they usually have many injured players on their team. Maybe AC Milan should start thinking about the reason for the problems they have because I think this team had many injured players, especially in this season and that's maybe because of the bad recovery or bad training they had in their team.
So far in this season AC Milan had 18 injured players and in the last season, they had 11 injured players which is a lot and challenging for their coach Pioli.


And this injury problem is also what made AC Milan last season almost not get a position in the top 4 rankings. Luckily they still got it even though they had to struggle harder. Yes, the injury problems that this club often experiences should be a concern for the club itself. Because this has happened not only this season but also in previous seasons. But it's not just AC Milan that has many players injured. But other clubs are the same. But AC Milan is one of the clubs that has the most injured players.

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November 13, 2023, 02:11:36 PM
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The point about Ac Milan is they usually have many injured players on their team. Maybe AC Milan should start thinking about the reason for the problems they have because I think this team had many injured players, especially in this season and that's maybe because of the bad recovery or bad training they had in their team.
So far in this season AC Milan had 18 injured players and in the last season, they had 11 injured players which is a lot and challenging for their coach Pioli.


I agree with you, AC Milan must analyze many things in their current medical team and related teams in the club because if many players get many injuries, it is not coincidence and something systematically is happening in their club. If they don't find anything to fix in their functional teams, their players will continue to get more injuries and the club performance in big competitions will be affected very negatively. Pioli will be in very big stressful situation if injury situation in AC Milan won't be improved. If they are not careful, they might lose a position in top four because Atalanta, Roma, Lazio can take over the position of AC Milan.

And this injury problem is also what made AC Milan last season almost not get a position in the top 4 rankings. Luckily they still got it even though they had to struggle harder. Yes, the injury problems that this club often experiences should be a concern for the club itself. Because this has happened not only this season but also in previous seasons. But it's not just AC Milan that has many players injured. But other clubs are the same. But AC Milan is one of the clubs that has the most injured players.
They are in a good position but it is not a guarantee that they will not lose that third position to other clubs. With challenge from Napoli, Atalanta, Roma and Lazio, it's very hard to maintain it if their performances wont' be good enough. With fully focus of Juventus for Serie A and good form of Inter Milan, it looks like only 2 positions in top four left for some clubs. The competitiveness of this race is very high and AC Milan have to win it to secure their club finance with a slot to Champions League 2024 - 2025.

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November 13, 2023, 02:12:13 PM
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Napoli continues to surprise, losing against one of the weakest teams in the league. Of course, they had a bit of an unlucky evening, Napoli was the dominant team in the match, but they failed to score a goal.
A team that cannot score has no chance of winning the match, and when they made a mistake towards the end of the match and conceded a goal, they lost 3 points. Looks like this season won't go well for them Smiley

Despite the fact that Napoli is not in great form like last season, I never expected them to lose that game yesterday to Empoli due to their weak performances of empoli this season. It was not that Napoli performed poorly yesterday against Empoli; what was there was that Napoli was not just lucky to win the game and lucky to be on a team that had little effort. But what surprises me most is that it was Napoli's home that empoli defeated them. and that was what I never expected to happen yesterday, the worst I was expecting from Napoli was just a draw or they did not win.

Recently inter Milan has some level of inconsistency in their performance unlike how they started at the beginning of the season, inter Milan did had a brilliant start this season such that we were all hopeful they will stay at the top of the table and probably stay within the top four till the season ends.

It is very funny to say that Inter Milan has some level of inconsistency. I am not much convinced about that because out of 12 games played, the team has been able to win 10 out of the matches, lose one match, and also draw one. Is there any indication that they are inconsistent in their performances with this result, or are you expecting them to win all the matches they have played? If yes, I don't see they have that type of squad. Inter Milan is the team leading the table currently, which shows no team is more in form than them. With this, I am okay with their performance, and if they can continue with this form, it is very possible they will win the league this season.

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November 13, 2023, 02:23:56 PM
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Inter Milan is the team leading the table currently, which shows no team is more in form than them. With this, I am okay with their performance, and if they can continue with this form, it is very possible they will win the league this season.
There was nothing bad about the performance shown by Inter. they appear quite consistent for each line. They are strong in defense but they are also very sharp when attacking. It's not easy to build a team like the current Inter squad.
but indeed in certain conditions, Inter's game strategy is successfully read by the opponent. Inter looked quite difficult even though they ended up drawing or winning by a narrow score.
like when facing Empoli, Inter dominated the match extraordinarily. they made an extraordinary attack but could only score 1 winning goal. The same thing happened when Inter faced Bologna which forced Inter to draw 2-2.
It's not that Inter's performance has decreased, it's just that the situation in each match is different.

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November 13, 2023, 02:24:17 PM
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For some reason, I think Rudi Garcia may not fully understand what Napoli is all about. Sincerely, their success has been like a roller coaster. That being said, it's one thing to lose to top teams, but to struggle at home against Empoli raises a lot of red flags. They tried several times but couldn't score! This is very different from last season when Spalletti was in charge. I'm worried now that getting into the Champions League is their most likely goal. The games coming up against Atalanta, Inter Milan, Juventus, and Real Madrid will be tough. These sides are tough to beat, but Atalanta might be an exception. They are going to have a hard time
However, Napoli are currently still too dependent on their mainstay striker, Osimhen. Because without Osimhen they seem to have difficulty completing the attack they have worked so hard to build. Rudi Garcia, who is Napoli's coach this season, also has questionable credibility. Because Napoli didn't even start the season that well. And now Napoli suffered a quite embarrassing defeat in front of their own fans, which is also a problem that is in the spotlight. Maybe if Napoli lost to another strong club in Serie A then everyone would understand and understand. But losing to Empoli who are even struggling to avoid the relegation zone is a reality that is difficult for all fans to accept. Although it looks like Napoli will qualify from the group stage in the Champions League. But of course Napoli will not be able to go further there if the quality of their game is not immediately improved.

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November 13, 2023, 02:24:43 PM
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The point about Ac Milan is they usually have many injured players on their team. Maybe AC Milan should start thinking about the reason for the problems they have because I think this team had many injured players, especially in this season and that's maybe because of the bad recovery or bad training they had in their team.
So far in this season AC Milan had 18 injured players and in the last season, they had 11 injured players which is a lot and challenging for their coach Pioli.

In the past, AC Milan is known for having the best medical facilities in Serie A, but since the 2010s, this achievement no longer seems to belong to Milan, because at that time Milan's players, who were mostly veteran players, often experienced recurring injuries. At that time, age was thought to be the cause, but to this day, the same thing continues to happen at AC Milan. It may be true that one of the causes is the lack of care provided by the AC Milan medical team. I can't confirm it, this just a black side rumor about AC Milan. it can be true or not.

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