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November 03, 2023, 01:04:57 PM
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Tomorrow Napoli will play an away match against Salernitana and looking at the opportunities that exist it is clear that Napoli will be favored to win. Moreover, in the previous match, Napoli only won 1 point after drawing against Milan, so this time they will take advantage of the opportunity to take home an additional 3 points. In H2H, Napoli have been far superior in the last few seasons, but the last meeting against Salernitana both ended in a draw. Despite all that, I am still very confident that Napoli will win whatever happens, especially now that they have a target to displace Atalanta from the top 4.

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November 03, 2023, 01:07:03 PM
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Yes, I must say that at the moment Juventus, as a fan, is satisfying me a lot.
I am very satisfied even if we are not playing any cups, never mind. But the games are fun and fun so I like watching my favorite team like this. <3
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Currently, Juventus only competes in Serie A. But this seems to have a positive impact on the performance of their squad itself. Or as many people say, Juventus is better now because they only need to focus on Serie A. So it is not surprising that currently Juventus is ranked 2nd in the standings.

But in the next match Juventus will face Fiorentina. And I think Fiorentina is a pretty tough opponent. But maybe Juventus will still get full points in this match. Because Lazio also just beat Fiorentina. And I think Juventus could have done better than the way Lazio beat Fiorentina.
Juventus who didn't have a good start to the Italian Serie A season are currently doing exceptionally well in the league as they're sitting in the second position of the league table while trailing league leaders Inter Milan by just two points.
They're currently not participating in any other competition apart from Italian Serie A and that I think is an added advantage to the team's fitness ahead of the other top four club's who are playing in Europe. From what I've seen so far this season, I think it's safe to say they're major contenders for the league title

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November 03, 2023, 01:15:12 PM
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Yes, I must say that at the moment Juventus, as a fan, is satisfying me a lot.
I am very satisfied even if we are not playing any cups, never mind. But the games are fun and fun so I like watching my favorite team like this. <3
Fun and love Cheesy
Currently, Juventus only competes in Serie A. But this seems to have a positive impact on the performance of their squad itself. Or as many people say, Juventus is better now because they only need to focus on Serie A. So it is not surprising that currently Juventus is ranked 2nd in the standings.

But in the next match Juventus will face Fiorentina. And I think Fiorentina is a pretty tough opponent. But maybe Juventus will still get full points in this match. Because Lazio also just beat Fiorentina. And I think Juventus could have done better than the way Lazio beat Fiorentina.

This could also be misleading as I am sure that all the Juventus players would prefer to also play in the Champions League. This is not like they are happy to have more free time and they can focus more on Serie A. These professionals want to compete. Did Napoli not play in the Champions League last season? And didn't they play a hell of a season despite also playing in the Champions League? Or all the other top teams like Manchester City when they won the treble, was it bad that they played in all competitions?
Of course all clubs and all professional players in Europe will really want to play in the Champions League. Of course we don't need to question this again. Because it is something we already know the answer to. But currently the condition of Juventus which only plays in Serie A is not because of their wishes. But because they have sanctions not to play like in the European League Conference qualifier. Even though we know that Juventus is more than worthy of playing there because last season Juventus finished in 7th place, which means they got a ticket to compete in the Europa Conference League qualifiers. Even if they don't receive points deductions, Juventus should be playing in the Champions League this season. Because maybe without the points deduction, Juventus would be ranked 3rd or 4th.

But right now Juventus must continue to accept the situation and move forward and take advantage of the competition they can enter. And hope to get a ticket to the Champions League in the next season. All Juventus fans in their hearts definitely want to see Juventus in the Champions League. But they can only surrender and it is better to entertain themselves by hoping for the best for Juventus in Serie A. rather than having to think about things that Juventus will not get this season. Not all teams will have the same performance. For example, Barcelona last season played well in Laliga. But they are bad in the UCL. But Man City can be good in all competitions. And things will vary greatly for all clubs.

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November 03, 2023, 01:58:40 PM
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Yes, I must say that at the moment Juventus, as a fan, is satisfying me a lot.
I am very satisfied even if we are not playing any cups, never mind. But the games are fun and fun so I like watching my favorite team like this. <3
Fun and love Cheesy
Currently, Juventus only competes in Serie A. But this seems to have a positive impact on the performance of their squad itself. Or as many people say, Juventus is better now because they only need to focus on Serie A. So it is not surprising that currently Juventus is ranked 2nd in the standings.

But in the next match Juventus will face Fiorentina. And I think Fiorentina is a pretty tough opponent. But maybe Juventus will still get full points in this match. Because Lazio also just beat Fiorentina. And I think Juventus could have done better than the way Lazio beat Fiorentina.
Juventus who didn't have a good start to the Italian Serie A season are currently doing exceptionally well in the league as they're sitting in the second position of the league table while trailing league leaders Inter Milan by just two points.
They're currently not participating in any other competition apart from Italian Serie A and that I think is an added advantage to the team's fitness ahead of the other top four club's who are playing in Europe. From what I've seen so far this season, I think it's safe to say they're major contenders for the league title

As Juventus are not participating in any other European competition, they have plenty of time to fine-tune their squad. And the Juventus coach used this opportunity very well. Juventus had quite a few weaknesses within their squad. But the coach managed to fix almost all the weaknesses. Juventus team is very stable now. Due to consistent good performances, they are second in the points table, just 2 points behind Inter Milan. I am looking forward to the Juventus vs Inter Milan match in the last week of November. If Juventus can win this match, then I will say that Juventus team will be the champion of this year's Serie A.

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November 03, 2023, 02:04:17 PM
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Juventus who didn't have a good start to the Italian Serie A season are currently doing exceptionally well in the league as they're sitting in the second position of the league table while trailing league leaders Inter Milan by just two points.
They're currently not participating in any other competition apart from Italian Serie A and that I think is an added advantage to the team's fitness ahead of the other top four club's who are playing in Europe. From what I've seen so far this season, I think it's safe to say they're major contenders for the league title
It is indeed quite convincing that Juventus will be the main contenders for the title in Serie A because overall the Juventus players will continue to look fitter and will not be excessively tired. Moreover, this season Juventus does not have to focus on other leagues so that all their abilities can continue to be mobilized into Serie A in order to continue to win. And in the next match I am also quite sure that Juventus will not be so difficult to face Fiorentina in Firenze.
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November 03, 2023, 02:28:48 PM
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Bologna vs Lazio

I know Lazio is in the good shape especially after win from Fiorentina but Bologna isn't weak team because during this season as mediocre team Bologna performance was quite stable and so far Bologna has been able to achieve 10 consecutive without loses in all competitions even Inter Milan , Juventus and Napoli were unable to beat them so Bologna had a potention to make Lazio get in trouble today

Bologna still losing Oussama El Azzouzi and Lorenzo De Silvestri because these players are still got injured and for Lazio all of their players in the good conditions and will be available today including Ciro Immobile and just like i said before Bologna defense was quite strong and it's not easy to broke it so i am doubt Lazio can able to broke their defense and i am thinking this match will be ended with draw and the odds for draw was quite high @3.05
The opportunity for Bologna to win this match is very clear, because they are good in using home advantage to clear any strong teams to embrace three points which they will definitely apply the same method to disgrace Lazio 2-1. Since Bologna coach has prepared their defenders and midfielders  before the beginning of this season, show that a lot of things will happen for their favour to reach second or third position in this Italian league competition but it will be very difficult for them to drag first position with Inter Milan in this season. Lazio is a strong team that has defeated many teams in this season to get to where they are today but it will be difficult for them to make this match draw 1-1 to share the points.

The Bologna team is very strong in home matches this season. I have seen Bologna's performance in several matches. Bologna players are confident in home matches and they are able to perform well. Also Bologna's overall performance is very stable. They have lost only one match out of 10 matches. The Bologna team was able to maintain consistency due to strong defence. They have managed to share points with strong teams like Napoli and Inter Milan. And so the Lazio vs Bologna match is likely to be a competitive one. The Lazio team is also in very good form, winning their last three matches. I don't think we will see many goals in this match. The match could be a 1-1 draw.
from some of these discussions I have the same prediction that Bologna vs Lazio will most likely end in a draw because maybe from past matches Lazio has a chance to win but looking at the current situation of the two teams Bologna and Lazio have the same good performance and on the one hand the last meeting between the two teams also ended in a draw but consider taking a double chance because I am afraid the surprise comes to Lazio winning narrowly.

and for Napoli who will play away against Salernitana, perhaps there is no need to discuss it because logically Napoli will very easily score a big score beating Salernitana, but if Napoli loses I think there is something wrong with the match.
It's obvious why much argument shouldn't ensue about the Bologna vs Lazio game, this is the type of match I like to be very careful about as it's going to be a tough one. As the two are, they are doing somewhat well this season, it might not be like that of the topmost clubs but they are performing well within their cadre. The two continue to trail themselves on the table as well even as Lazio is just a point ahead of Bologna but this is not the yardstick to judge the outcome of this match.

Specifically, I believe that no one should pronounce a favourite to win just yet for so many reasons as what one lacks, the other possesses, and the reason is mainly that the defence of Bologna is very good while the attack of Lazio has been better in their recent games. However, both still have their lapses in the middle, so it's going to be a highly interesting and unpredictable game in which many corners and misfires will happen. The lucky one will then go home with 3 points as I still do not feel that the match would end in a draw as you guys insinuated. It's possible that Lazio would win this match, this is as much as I am being careful not to pick a side.

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November 03, 2023, 02:36:48 PM
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Juventus who didn't have a good start to the Italian Serie A season are currently doing exceptionally well in the league as they're sitting in the second position of the league table while trailing league leaders Inter Milan by just two points.
They're currently not participating in any other competition apart from Italian Serie A and that I think is an added advantage to the team's fitness ahead of the other top four club's who are playing in Europe. From what I've seen so far this season, I think it's safe to say they're major contenders for the league title
It is indeed quite convincing that Juventus will be the main contenders for the title in Serie A because overall the Juventus players will continue to look fitter and will not be excessively tired. Moreover, this season Juventus does not have to focus on other leagues so that all their abilities can continue to be mobilized into Serie A in order to continue to win. And in the next match I am also quite sure that Juventus will not be so difficult to face Fiorentina in Firenze.

@Davian144 considering all the off field issues that they had I’m really surprised that they have managed to put in such impressive performances and all the credit belongs to their head coach who has stayed strong and helped the player’s navigate through this tough phase. Furthermore if they continue fighting like this then I won’t be surprised if they end up sealing the top spot for themselves by the end of the season and reclaim their lost glory.
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November 03, 2023, 02:39:14 PM
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Tomorrow Napoli will play an away match against Salernitana and looking at the opportunities that exist it is clear that Napoli will be favored to win. Moreover, in the previous match, Napoli only won 1 point after drawing against Milan, so this time they will take advantage of the opportunity to take home an additional 3 points. In H2H, Napoli have been far superior in the last few seasons, but the last meeting against Salernitana both ended in a draw. Despite all that, I am still very confident that Napoli will win whatever happens, especially now that they have a target to displace Atalanta from the top 4.
Napoli must have won the upcoming game to keep exist at the top position and compete for the title race against some clubs which were leading the league right now. Salernitana may not become a tough opponent for napoli. 2-0 is possible to happen betwen napoli against salernitana.
Napoli really needs three points. It's likely draw will not happen again or the chance is quite small at this moment. Napoli needs three points to make sure it will able to climb up but i think that it will not also change ths situation if atalanta will win in the upcoming match.
Im losing my for napoli to win scudetto this season. It seems like back to back champion will not happen soon.

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November 03, 2023, 02:45:55 PM
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Tomorrow Napoli will play an away match against Salernitana and looking at the opportunities that exist it is clear that Napoli will be favored to win. Moreover, in the previous match, Napoli only won 1 point after drawing against Milan, so this time they will take advantage of the opportunity to take home an additional 3 points. In H2H, Napoli have been far superior in the last few seasons, but the last meeting against Salernitana both ended in a draw. Despite all that, I am still very confident that Napoli will win whatever happens, especially now that they have a target to displace Atalanta from the top 4.
Napoli must have won the upcoming game to keep exist at the top position and compete for the title race against some clubs which were leading the league right now. Salernitana may not become a tough opponent for napoli. 2-0 is possible to happen betwen napoli against salernitana.
Napoli really needs three points. It's likely draw will not happen again or the chance is quite small at this moment. Napoli needs three points to make sure it will able to climb up but i think that it will not also change ths situation if atalanta will win in the upcoming match.
Im losing my for napoli to win scudetto this season. It seems like back to back champion will not happen soon.
Of course, three points should be easy for Napoli, given the position of the teams in the standings. I think that this match will not be very interesting. Salernitana are the worst team in Serie A right now. I think that they will not even be able to score in this match.

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November 03, 2023, 03:01:20 PM
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Yes, I must say that at the moment Juventus, as a fan, is satisfying me a lot.
I am very satisfied even if we are not playing any cups, never mind. But the games are fun and fun so I like watching my favorite team like this. <3
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Currently, Juventus only competes in Serie A. But this seems to have a positive impact on the performance of their squad itself. Or as many people say, Juventus is better now because they only need to focus on Serie A. So it is not surprising that currently Juventus is ranked 2nd in the standings.

But in the next match Juventus will face Fiorentina. And I think Fiorentina is a pretty tough opponent. But maybe Juventus will still get full points in this match. Because Lazio also just beat Fiorentina. And I think Juventus could have done better than the way Lazio beat Fiorentina.

Going top of the league would be a great one for every Juventus supporters to see happening. Gradually they're moving to the top which has always been Allergi's favorite position as Juventus Manager.
I'm hoping they go very far this season without much Competition and wins this Seria A League tittle.

They have accumulation of points more against any side in the Seria when they face Fiorentina than any other Seria A side! Juventus will sure do better when they face them, they have seen a massive improvement in the defenders and how they have been stabilized in the last four games. Now let's hope they the attackers score and bring the win.

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November 03, 2023, 03:08:44 PM
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Tomorrow Napoli will play an away match against Salernitana and looking at the opportunities that exist it is clear that Napoli will be favored to win. Moreover, in the previous match, Napoli only won 1 point after drawing against Milan, so this time they will take advantage of the opportunity to take home an additional 3 points. In H2H, Napoli have been far superior in the last few seasons, but the last meeting against Salernitana both ended in a draw. Despite all that, I am still very confident that Napoli will win whatever happens, especially now that they have a target to displace Atalanta from the top 4.
Napoli must have won the upcoming game to keep exist at the top position and compete for the title race against some clubs which were leading the league right now. Salernitana may not become a tough opponent for napoli. 2-0 is possible to happen betwen napoli against salernitana.
Napoli really needs three points. It's likely draw will not happen again or the chance is quite small at this moment. Napoli needs three points to make sure it will able to climb up but i think that it will not also change ths situation if atalanta will win in the upcoming match.
Im losing my for napoli to win scudetto this season. It seems like back to back champion will not happen soon.
Napoli are seen playing very well almost every time in the Italian league but this time they are far behind in terms of points so winning a single match will not be a solution for them. They are already way behind in terms of points. Inter and Juventus are more likely to take the Italian league cup this year. But I wouldn't say that a turnaround is impossible for Napoli.  They have to win all the upcoming matches continuously to turn around



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November 03, 2023, 03:24:56 PM
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Tomorrow Napoli will play an away match against Salernitana and looking at the opportunities that exist it is clear that Napoli will be favored to win. Moreover, in the previous match, Napoli only won 1 point after drawing against Milan, so this time they will take advantage of the opportunity to take home an additional 3 points. In H2H, Napoli have been far superior in the last few seasons, but the last meeting against Salernitana both ended in a draw. Despite all that, I am still very confident that Napoli will win whatever happens, especially now that they have a target to displace Atalanta from the top 4.
Yes, Napoli will most likely be able to win tomorrow's match against Salernitana. Because if you look at Salernitana's match records this season, Salernitana have never won once against any team. So Napoli's chances of winning tomorrow's match will be very big. Because it is true, tomorrow's match is a very important match for Napoli to be able to move up the rankings and displace Atalanta from their current position (4). Because if, for example, tomorrow Napoli can win the match and can move up to 4th place. Atalanta will not necessarily be able to overtake Napoli again (especially this week). The reason is, the opponent that Atalanta will face this week is the leader of the standings, namely Inter Milan.

So for Atalanta to be able to win the match against Inter Milan will definitely be a little difficult. The reason is, the current performance of the players from Inter Milan is indeed very good. Therefore, Napoli must be able to make the most of this opportunity. So Napoli can shift Atalanta's position this week and bring its ranking position closer to AC Milan, which is currently in 3rd place.

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November 03, 2023, 03:26:53 PM
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Yes, I must say that at the moment Juventus, as a fan, is satisfying me a lot.
I am very satisfied even if we are not playing any cups, never mind. But the games are fun and fun so I like watching my favorite team like this. <3
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Seven wins, two draws and one loss are positive achievements achieved by Juventus on the Serie A stage. It must be admitted that Juventus performance this season is very impressive. Absence on the European stage is an advantage for Juventus, they can focus only on Serie A. Their position in the standings is also very good, they are only two points behind Inter who are at the top of the standings.
Juventus chances of winning the Scudetto race are very big, they just need to consistently maintain their best game while the season is still going on. Another advantage is that Juventus focus is not diverted to other competitions, its players have more rest hours because their schedules are not too busy.

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November 03, 2023, 03:27:25 PM
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Lazio to win against Lazio, they did against Fiorentina in the last game. They will want to see that happening again.
Lazio won Fiorentina in previous game, that particular victory gave them an edge over their opponents. Lazio's stats are unbalanced this season, with 5W 1D 4L and a seventh-place wraps up in Seria A. It's not beneficial standing by and watching them continue to record inefficiencies; instead, they should stand in balance form and strive for better performances in League games. Lazio to win Bologna, the odds will be stacked against the host team this season. Maurizio Sarri intends to make initiatives to enhance his team's performance, allowing them to be in sufficient form to take home three points.
It is confusing how erratic Lazio has been this season. Even though they have won a few games, most recently against Fiorentina, their total record of 5W 1D 4L and seventh place in Serie A is not good. I cant help but believe that the attack line - which has had a lot of trouble keeping up a steady goal-scoring momentum - is the core of their issue. This is a far cry from their stronger performance during the previous season. Despite Maurizio Sarri's efforts to improve the team's performance, I am still concerned about the team's chances of winning against Bologna because of the host's track record of holding elite opponents at bay this season. In order to improve league results, I hope they correct their inconsistencies.

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November 03, 2023, 03:27:57 PM
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Napoli are seen playing very well almost every time in the Italian league but this time they are far behind in terms of points so winning a single match will not be a solution for them. They are already way behind in terms of points. Inter and Juventus are more likely to take the Italian league cup this year. But I wouldn't say that a turnaround is impossible for Napoli.  They have to win all the upcoming matches continuously to turn around
I wouldn't blame Napoli for their current circumstances because they missed out on one of the team's most crucial members. Luciano Spalleti fled after winning the scudetto with the Parthenopeans last season and has moved on, leaving the club with no better option than former Al Nassr coach Rudi Garcia, who is now working with his new team to straighten out excellent performance. Sportiva Salernitana will play Napoli this weekend; if Napoli is interested in returning their place in the scudetto race this season, they will need to improve their standings.

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November 03, 2023, 03:33:05 PM
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Don't know if Lazio are good or not, they're only in 7th place and they're usually in the top 4 of Serie A.
Only 5 wins and 4 losses, so I'm not that impressed with Lazio this season.
Then Bologna have lost once to Empoli and the rest are more draws.

It's quite difficult to see who will win but with the possibility of both teams scoring goals it is very possible with the opportunity, usually Bologna appearing at home is quite more confident because they want to continue their good trend, this is quite interesting because if one loses it will be displaced from the current standings.

Dont let Lazio fool you, they are a very strong team and on the surface they arent.
His problem is consistency, he is unable to be consistent in both victories and defeats.

 He manages to beat much stronger teams and then loses to weaker teams. Strange team indeed. But beautiful.

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November 03, 2023, 03:37:14 PM
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Another victory for Lazio today would push them on 5th place on Serie A but they have a hard game in front with Bologna being just a place under them right now and really a strong team that knows how defend well and also score on counter-attack but I do feel a draw might be possible here because Lazio is still not at full potential and I still remember how they started the season...with 4 lost games.  Grin

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November 03, 2023, 03:38:18 PM
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Napoli are seen playing very well almost every time in the Italian league but this time they are far behind in terms of points so winning a single match will not be a solution for them. They are already way behind in terms of points. Inter and Juventus are more likely to take the Italian league cup this year. But I wouldn't say that a turnaround is impossible for Napoli.  They have to win all the upcoming matches continuously to turn around
I wouldn't blame Napoli for their current circumstances because they missed out on one of the team's most crucial members. Luciano Spalleti fled after winning the scudetto with the Parthenopeans last season and has moved on, leaving the club with no better option than former Al Nassr coach Rudi Garcia, who is now working with his new team to straighten out excellent performance. Sportiva Salernitana will play Napoli this weekend; if Napoli is interested in returning their place in the scudetto race this season, they will need to improve their standings.

Napoli only had impressive results only last season, so with the decline in Napoli performance this season is clearly a normal result. I personally don't blame anyone because anyway, to maintain good performance will be difficult . Although for example, if in this season Spalleti is still the head coach of Napoli, that I will still believe Napoli performance will still plummet this season. Because yes, at least we can also compare when Milan and Inter got the Scudetto before, the fact is that teams as good as Milan and Inter also failed to defend the title. Moreover, about Napoli, which in every season is not always good and only in the last season, so it is natural if this season Napoli is not in a good trend.

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November 03, 2023, 03:46:37 PM
 #60999

Tomorrow Napoli will play an away match against Salernitana and looking at the opportunities that exist it is clear that Napoli will be favored to win. Moreover, in the previous match, Napoli only won 1 point after drawing against Milan, so this time they will take advantage of the opportunity to take home an additional 3 points. In H2H, Napoli have been far superior in the last few seasons, but the last meeting against Salernitana both ended in a draw. Despite all that, I am still very confident that Napoli will win whatever happens, especially now that they have a target to displace Atalanta from the top 4.
Napoli must have won the upcoming game to keep exist at the top position and compete for the title race against some clubs which were leading the league right now. Salernitana may not become a tough opponent for napoli. 2-0 is possible to happen betwen napoli against salernitana.
Napoli really needs three points. It's likely draw will not happen again or the chance is quite small at this moment. Napoli needs three points to make sure it will able to climb up but i think that it will not also change ths situation if atalanta will win in the upcoming match.
Im losing my for napoli to win scudetto this season. It seems like back to back champion will not happen soon.
Indeed, if you look at the current situation, achieving back to back championships is quite difficult for Napoli because they also have a 7 point difference with the current leaders, namely Inter. But I think the season is still long and as long as Napoli can remain consistent it is likely they will try to win their title again. Victory over Salernitana must be realized and that alone is not enough, they must return to winning in a row like last season. I think the change of Napoli coach this season also had a big influence on the results achieved by Napoli and I think it is natural that if they fail to defend their title, then at least they have to finish in the top 4 this season.

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November 03, 2023, 03:58:52 PM
 #61000

Napoli are seen playing very well almost every time in the Italian league but this time they are far behind in terms of points so winning a single match will not be a solution for them. They are already way behind in terms of points. Inter and Juventus are more likely to take the Italian league cup this year. But I wouldn't say that a turnaround is impossible for Napoli.  They have to win all the upcoming matches continuously to turn around
I wouldn't blame Napoli for their current circumstances because they missed out on one of the team's most crucial members. Luciano Spalleti fled after winning the scudetto with the Parthenopeans last season and has moved on, leaving the club with no better option than former Al Nassr coach Rudi Garcia, who is now working with his new team to straighten out excellent performance. Sportiva Salernitana will play Napoli this weekend; if Napoli is interested in returning their place in the scudetto race this season, they will need to improve their standings.
The truth is that I still feel that Spalletti's departure was overblown as if Napoli are playing badly at the moment because Spalletti wasn't there.
Although I actually agree when  Spalletti is the coach who brought Napoli back to their glory but I think with the presence or absence of Spalletti now it is not the answer to Napoli's performance because there is also no guarantee for Spalletti to play very well again after last season's extraordinary performance.
Moreover, with the achievement and the curse that Serie A clubs can't defend the Scudetto for consecutive seasons, it's a complicated problem even with Spalletti  present.
The club's performance and changes after losing a coach are bound to change but when Napoli's performance is like now it doesn't just have to be based on Spalletti alone because in my opinion with Spalletti in the squad too this will not have a big impact and it could be the same performance as now.

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