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November 29, 2023, 07:59:17 PM
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Milan lost disappointedly to Dortmund even in their home ground, the expectation from them was high due to their win against PSG. Yesterday wasn't a good day for them and it now queries their performance in their subsequent matches, it may have an effect on their confidence and mindset too. Sadly their focus is now drifted out of the Champions league a bit because in the current situation, their chance of scaling through is a bit less than half.

They had such a poor outing yesterday after losing at home to Dortmund. I never expected them to lose at home after their performance against PSG. They were relaxed and did not exert as much effort as they had in previous matches, which resulted in a humiliating defeat, reducing their chances of progressing to the knockout stage of the competition. They could still give it their all in their final group match, hoping to qualify for the Europa League while maintaining their focus on the Scudetto.

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I don't know think PSG would take it easy on them when they face each other next week, being that Milan would be playing away from home. Milan needs to build back themselves in total and starting winning with proper margins, their performance is very much retarded and it's likely going to affect their league race too, except they build confidence very fast and start doing better.

At this point, I doubt Milan will make much of an effort to qualify from the group stage. It has now become clear to them that they will not advance to the competition's last 16. So they must now concentrate on the league race rather than the Champions League competition. They might be able to qualify for the Europa League rather than being eliminated from the European competition entirely.

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November 29, 2023, 08:53:49 PM
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Maybe Inter can take Serie A and the Italian Cup, but it’s hard for me to imagine what kind of draw should be in the playoffs for Inter to reach the Champions League final again. Maybe this year the line-up of contenders is a little weaker than last year (there are no Liverpool and Chelsea), but it’s hard to believe that Inter will be as lucky as last year, and with any strong opponent from the big three, Inter will be an underdog. Even now in the lightweight group they are in second place and all their victories are with a minimum score.
Inter's performance in the Italian Serie A and the Champion League could be a pointer that they still have better quality than last season. They are still tough teams in the UCL but I think Inter has what it takes to still go to the finals. Their journey to the finals last season cannot be seen as just luck but they put in some good effort. Real Sociedad, FC Red Bull Salzburg and S.L. Benfica are not weak teams. Salzburg is topping the Austrian Bundesliga, while Benfica is number one in the Liga Portugal, so Inter should be commended for surviving in Group D.
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 Grin 0-3 after the first 45 minutes against Benfica (which scored exactly zero points before this game) and it looks like first place will go to Sociedad, and Inter risks getting to the top team right away in the 1/8. Despite local successes, Inter is still far from the European top clubs, and although theoretically they can win the Champions League, the likelihood of this is very small.

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November 29, 2023, 10:08:40 PM
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Why VAR did not intervene on Juventus vs. Inter goal


Simple answer?

Var was created to penalize Juventus.

What are the odds that the team with the most decisions against is Juventus and the fewer decisions in advantage is the same?

The Lega of Serie A is against Juventus, just look at the penalty they got FOR NOTHING illegal the last year.

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November 29, 2023, 10:16:22 PM
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Inter's fixture is quite challenging recently. After facing Juventus in the league previously and having a really tiring game against Benfica in the Champions League their next opponent is Napoli. It is a league game I mean. Inter got 2 draws in the games I mentioned. This Napoli game is an away one as well so I'm curious about whether this streak will continue.

Inter can't win against Napoli in away games for a while at the same time. Considering all of these it is quite difficult for me to believe in Inter to win this game. Instead I think both teams to score is one of the best options for this game.

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November 29, 2023, 10:28:08 PM
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Of course, this season Juventus is the most favored to get the Scudetto trophy this season, because as you said, Juventus doesn't have a big schedule so the players' fitness and concentration don't decrease. This is very different from other Scudetto competitors who have very busy schedules, of course their stamina will be drained and players will even easily suffer injuries which will make them unable to compete for the Scudetto trophy.

So in essence, if asked who has the most potential to win the Scudetto this season, the answer is of course Juventus, but with the condition that you must not underestimate any opponent, and Allegri must be able to use all his organizational abilities. strategy in each match so that you can remain consistent.


In the long run, yes, Juventus, having no cups to play, is favored from a physical fitness point of view compared to other teams who have grueling shifts that put the players bodies to the test.
But this is not enough, look at Inter, clearly we will see towards the end of the championship how it is going.

The great advantage for Juventus is about the more potential they can have in the Serie A. In fact, Juventus is not playing in the Champions League like Inter Milan and AC Milan which can give them more time to rest between each game also they will have less chance of having injured players. Maybe we are going to see Juventus winning the Serie A title after the drama they had in the last season.
 

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November 29, 2023, 10:45:58 PM
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Maybe Inter can take Serie A and the Italian Cup, but it’s hard for me to imagine what kind of draw should be in the playoffs for Inter to reach the Champions League final again. Maybe this year the line-up of contenders is a little weaker than last year (there are no Liverpool and Chelsea), but it’s hard to believe that Inter will be as lucky as last year, and with any strong opponent from the big three, Inter will be an underdog. Even now in the lightweight group they are in second place and all their victories are with a minimum score.
Inter's performance in the Italian Serie A and the Champion League could be a pointer that they still have better quality than last season. They are still tough teams in the UCL but I think Inter has what it takes to still go to the finals. Their journey to the finals last season cannot be seen as just luck but they put in some good effort. Real Sociedad, FC Red Bull Salzburg and S.L. Benfica are not weak teams. Salzburg is topping the Austrian Bundesliga, while Benfica is number one in the Liga Portugal, so Inter should be commended for surviving in Group D.
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 Grin 0-3 after the first 45 minutes against Benfica (which scored exactly zero points before this game) and it looks like first place will go to Sociedad, and Inter risks getting to the top team right away in the 1/8. Despite local successes, Inter is still far from the European top clubs, and although theoretically they can win the Champions League, the likelihood of this is very small.
Inter comeback with 3 goals back in the second half but indeed for the position of Group winner is still owned by Sociedad in this case although there is still a chance to reclaim in the last match where they will face each other.
Inter did not do well in the first half because Joao Mario looked very easy to put a goal to Inter in the first half even it was hatrick in this match.
Fortunately the second half they made some buzz which in the end was profitable with 3 goals in return but this is not very good for Benfica because with a draw in this match the chances of being in the europa league are difficult for them because if they want to be there they have to win by 4 goals or more against Salzburg.

For Inter I am still pretty sure they are in the group in the last game because even though Sociedad are strong but Inter will try to win in their home game.

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November 29, 2023, 11:23:58 PM
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Last season, Napoli managed to win because of the contribution of the coach, who always gave full support and provided a very good strategy to always win in every match. Unfortunately, coach Luciano Spalletti has left Napoli for a while, so it is clear that they have not dominated the standings and are still in the top four.
Yeah, it cannot be denied that the conditions are very different, Spaletti has had great success at Napoli. And currently, Napoli is trying to do their best by choosing Mazzari as their newest coach to replace Garcia. Because of this, Napoli certainly has its own standards so that it is at least like Spalletti before. However, the conditions are not the same. We'll see how Mazzarri will take this team. Napoli have just experienced defeat with Real Madrid in the Champions League. But indeed, Real Madrid is a tough opponent, so maybe it was predicted.

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November 29, 2023, 11:48:50 PM
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The great advantage for Juventus is about the more potential they can have in the Serie A. In fact, Juventus is not playing in the Champions League like Inter Milan and AC Milan which can give them more time to rest between each game also they will have less chance of having injured players. Maybe we are going to see Juventus winning the Serie A title after the drama they had in the last season.
I don't think the absence in UCL makes Juventus to have higher chance to win Serie A title. We can see the last match that Inter Milan still dominated the match although it was held in Juventus stadium. It means Inter Milan still superior against Juventus, they are the team that have higher chance to win Serie A title this season. Sure, with less matches, Juventus players will have smaller chance to get injury. But it doesn't guarantee for the whole players to be in their best fitness. Meanwhile Inter Milan, they still can play in their best performance although there are some key players injured.


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November 29, 2023, 11:57:13 PM
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Yeah, it cannot be denied that the conditions are very different, Spaletti has had great success at Napoli. And currently, Napoli is trying to do their best by choosing Mazzari as their newest coach to replace Garcia. Because of this, Napoli certainly has its own standards so that it is at least like Spalletti before. However, the conditions are not the same. We'll see how Mazzarri will take this team. Napoli have just experienced defeat with Real Madrid in the Champions League. But indeed, Real Madrid is a tough opponent, so maybe it was predicted.
Luciano Spalleti resigned from the managerial position and this have really affected the current status of Napoli who now settled for lesser results in Seria A games. Napili are currently down and losing back to back to Real Madrid without mapping any draw plan for the club. Napoli president, Aurelio De Laurentiis is reluctant with the look of things, they're having one of the undermining performance which ought to be accord with the present original stats of the club. The new boss, Walter Mazzarri will be given more chances to prove his worth for the club, either he wins a title this season will say it all.

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November 29, 2023, 11:59:23 PM
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Of course, this season Juventus is the most favored to get the Scudetto trophy this season, because as you said, Juventus doesn't have a big schedule so the players' fitness and concentration don't decrease. This is very different from other Scudetto competitors who have very busy schedules, of course their stamina will be drained and players will even easily suffer injuries which will make them unable to compete for the Scudetto trophy.

So in essence, if asked who has the most potential to win the Scudetto this season, the answer is of course Juventus, but with the condition that you must not underestimate any opponent, and Allegri must be able to use all his organizational abilities. strategy in each match so that you can remain consistent.


In the long run, yes, Juventus, having no cups to play, is favored from a physical fitness point of view compared to other teams who have grueling shifts that put the players bodies to the test.
But this is not enough, look at Inter, clearly we will see towards the end of the championship how it is going.

Everything can happen. Juventus can put more focus on winning any matches in the serie a instead of intermilan. Intermilan may be struggling at the late game due to the busy schedule. Juventus can always aim it as the advantage to help club win scudetto.
We are still in the long run till the end of the season. Juventus will have so many advantages, intermilan must have forced itself to be even more consistent than before. The busy schedule may make intermilan's players to be exhausted or even injured.

It will become an opportunity for juventus to take the first spot again. Intermilan's players are going to be pushed even harder than they will be facing so many matches which were giving them a short gap to recover.
The old lady is coming back as the strong contender to win the serie a. Im waiting for another huge step to be made by juventus in january. Old lady probably tries to get a new player to strengthen its club.

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November 30, 2023, 02:49:51 AM
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Inter's fixture is quite challenging recently. After facing Juventus in the league previously and having a really tiring game against Benfica in the Champions League their next opponent is Napoli. It is a league game I mean. Inter got 2 draws in the games I mentioned. This Napoli game is an away one as well so I'm curious about whether this streak will continue.

Inter can't win against Napoli in away games for a while at the same time. Considering all of these it is quite difficult for me to believe in Inter to win this game. Instead I think both teams to score is one of the best options for this game.
Yes, Inter Milan is indeed very strong this season. And they continue to stay at the top of the current standings in Serie A. But in the match against Benfica today I think Inter Milan really lost their focus in the game throughout the first half. And I know the reason is because in the first half several of the core players were not played by Simone Inzaghi. But it was a really bad result for the first half against Benfica. Because being 3 goals behind in the first half is not a result that can be tolerated. And this shows that Inter Milan has quite bad second tier players. So I imagine that if Inter Milan lost their core players due to injury then Inter Milan would really be in a clear decline in performance.


But for the match against Napoli, I think Simone Inzaghi will definitely use their best squad from the first minute. So Napoli, who are currently not in their best condition, will definitely have a little difficulty. Even though Napoli is the host, it seems like this no longer has a big influence on Napoli. Because this season Napoli even had a lot of bad results when playing as hosts.

I also think that at least both teams will definitely score goals in this match. But I am still considering betting on Inter Milan in this match. Because I saw that in the match against Benfica in the second half, Inter Milan was able to get back 3 goals quite brilliantly. So I think Inter Milan is really strong at the moment

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November 30, 2023, 03:24:55 AM
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I don't think the absence in UCL makes Juventus to have higher chance to win Serie A title. We can see the last match that Inter Milan still dominated the match although it was held in Juventus stadium. It means Inter Milan still superior against Juventus, they are the team that have higher chance to win Serie A title this season. Sure, with less matches, Juventus players will have smaller chance to get injury. But it doesn't guarantee for the whole players to be in their best fitness. Meanwhile Inter Milan, they still can play in their best performance although there are some key players injured.
I think Juventus got advantage with absent in champion league and europe competition from Europe League until Conference League after get suspending from UEFA. Juventus players not face with injury and they can focus with domestic league how to finish on top standings position for returning back to Champion League next season. Have smalless chance with Juventus player injury because they have every one week for getting rest and not get by Serie A teams who participants in Champion League, Europe League and Conference League have two matches every one week.
Juventus main players absent is Paul Pogba due suspend from UEFA but its not problem looking for how consistent performance and success pressure Inter Milan on first place with two points left.

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November 30, 2023, 04:50:03 AM
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I don't think the absence in UCL makes Juventus to have higher chance to win Serie A title. We can see the last match that Inter Milan still dominated the match although it was held in Juventus stadium. It means Inter Milan still superior against Juventus, they are the team that have higher chance to win Serie A title this season. Sure, with less matches, Juventus players will have smaller chance to get injury. But it doesn't guarantee for the whole players to be in their best fitness. Meanwhile Inter Milan, they still can play in their best performance although there are some key players injured.
I think Juventus got advantage with absent in champion league and europe competition from Europe League until Conference League after get suspending from UEFA. Juventus players not face with injury and they can focus with domestic league how to finish on top standings position for returning back to Champion League next season. Have smalless chance with Juventus player injury because they have every one week for getting rest and not get by Serie A teams who participants in Champion League, Europe League and Conference League have two matches every one week.
Juventus main players absent is Paul Pogba due suspend from UEFA but its not problem looking for how consistent performance and success pressure Inter Milan on first place with two points left.
Yes, Juventus really benefits from only having a schedule for domestic competitions. The player's fitness level is greater when compared to other teams competing in Europe. Massimo Allegri certainly has to maximize his squad to continue to maintain its position at the top so that the target of winning the Scudetto is also more open. I believe the Old Lady's chances are greater if you look at their schedule, other competitors like Inter might find a busy period where they will lose control in Serie A.

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November 30, 2023, 05:49:34 AM
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The great advantage for Juventus is about the more potential they can have in the Serie A. In fact, Juventus is not playing in the Champions League like Inter Milan and AC Milan which can give them more time to rest between each game also they will have less chance of having injured players. Maybe we are going to see Juventus winning the Serie A title after the drama they had in the last season.
I don't think the absence in UCL makes Juventus to have higher chance to win Serie A title. We can see the last match that Inter Milan still dominated the match although it was held in Juventus stadium. It means Inter Milan still superior against Juventus, they are the team that have higher chance to win Serie A title this season. Sure, with less matches, Juventus players will have smaller chance to get injury. But it doesn't guarantee for the whole players to be in their best fitness. Meanwhile Inter Milan, they still can play in their best performance although there are some key players injured.


Basically these two teams are equally strong but Juventus cannot easily win the Scudetto because Inter Milan is still quite consistent in Serie A even though Inter has a busier schedule than Juventus at this time it cannot be confirmed for certain even though Juventus has a chances which is good but if they are not able to maintain their consistency then Juventus will not win the Scudetto.
On the other hand if Inter Milan experiences a decline in performance due to their stamina being drained Juventus can take advantage of this opportunity, but maybe not now we can see near the end of the season whether these two teams are still candidates strong title winners or maybe AC Milan and Napoli could provide a surprise at the end of the season because what is certain is that the top 4 positions still have a chance to win the scudetto. There are still a lot of matches remaining in Serie A and it's only about midway through the season.

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November 30, 2023, 05:53:55 AM
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Juventus without doubt stands a better chance among other top Italian teams that are trying to overtake Inter Milan in the league standings because of the fact that they're currently not playing in any European competition but that doesn't automatically mean that Inter can't hold on as the league leaders till the end of the season if they truly want to achieve that feat despite their involvement in the UEFA Champions League competition.

In 2010, a Jose Mourinho's Inter Milan won the UEFA Champions League title, the Italian Serie title as well as the Italian Cup and the current Simone Inzaghi's squad can still replicate the same result this season if they work very hard for it.

Maybe Inter can take Serie A and the Italian Cup, but it’s hard for me to imagine what kind of draw should be in the playoffs for Inter to reach the Champions League final again. Maybe this year the line-up of contenders is a little weaker than last year (there are no Liverpool and Chelsea), but it’s hard to believe that Inter will be as lucky as last year, and with any strong opponent from the big three, Inter will be an underdog. Even now in the lightweight group they are in second place and all their victories are with a minimum score.

Inter are in a good position to win this Italian league title in this season, because their coach is doing some strange things that is making them to dominate both Italian league competition and champions league competition. I believe you saw what Inter did to their opponent in the champion league where their opponent was leading the match with many goals but Inter turned the match for their favour in the second to defeat them to embraced the three points from the match. Juventus and AC Milan will only fight for second position in this season but it will be difficult for them to take over the first position from Inter, because they have some new strategies they are using in this season that is giving them opportunity to always ended up in victory to make their fans happy.

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November 30, 2023, 06:48:26 AM
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I don't think the absence in UCL makes Juventus to have higher chance to win Serie A title. We can see the last match that Inter Milan still dominated the match although it was held in Juventus stadium. It means Inter Milan still superior against Juventus, they are the team that have higher chance to win Serie A title this season. Sure, with less matches, Juventus players will have smaller chance to get injury. But it doesn't guarantee for the whole players to be in their best fitness. Meanwhile Inter Milan, they still can play in their best performance although there are some key players injured.
I think Juventus got advantage with absent in champion league and europe competition from Europe League until Conference League after get suspending from UEFA. Juventus players not face with injury and they can focus with domestic league how to finish on top standings position for returning back to Champion League next season. Have smalless chance with Juventus player injury because they have every one week for getting rest and not get by Serie A teams who participants in Champion League, Europe League and Conference League have two matches every one week.
Juventus main players absent is Paul Pogba due suspend from UEFA but its not problem looking for how consistent performance and success pressure Inter Milan on first place with two points left.
Yes, Juventus really benefits from only having a schedule for domestic competitions. The player's fitness level is greater when compared to other teams competing in Europe. Massimo Allegri certainly has to maximize his squad to continue to maintain its position at the top so that the target of winning the Scudetto is also more open. I believe the Old Lady's chances are greater if you look at their schedule, other competitors like Inter might find a busy period where they will lose control in Serie A.
this is what worries Inter fans because they know that Juventus has a much better stamina and physical advantage because they dont have any other matches scheduled and it is difficult to predict whether Inter will continue to stay at the top of the standings while Juventus continues to catch up on points.

Inzaghi as Inter coach always tries his best for his team and maintains the stability of the performance and physicality of the players, especially midfielders who are always at risk of getting tired when continuously competing and in january I think Inzaghi will look for several second tier players to be on guard to continue performing consistent in series A to win the title and Juventus will certainly do the same.

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November 30, 2023, 06:53:06 AM
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Inter's fixture is quite challenging recently. After facing Juventus in the league previously and having a really tiring game against Benfica in the Champions League their next opponent is Napoli. It is a league game I mean. Inter got 2 draws in the games I mentioned. This Napoli game is an away one as well so I'm curious about whether this streak will continue.

Inter can't win against Napoli in away games for a while at the same time. Considering all of these it is quite difficult for me to believe in Inter to win this game. Instead I think both teams to score is one of the best options for this game.

I wasn't expecting that much from Inter Milan in this game against Benfica. They should have channeled all of the energy to the game against Juventus and made sure they'd win the game but they ended the game all squared. Inter Milan already qualified, there shouldn't too much pressure when they face Real Sociedad for the last match in the group, they would do well to win to avoid tougher games during knockouts.

Against Napoli would be tough one, they have to win to extend their lead on the standing. Napoli with a new coach at home will want to show the fans working. Tough one, difficult to predict.

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November 30, 2023, 08:32:14 AM
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what I know at the moment is that Milan problem is just a lack of consistency and you can see that previously they were able to perform well but surprisingly their performance dropped drastically whereas what I predicted in yesterday match was that Milan should be able to hold a draw but in fact the defense was really very bad and that is the real problem point in Milan defenders are always inconsistent while the attackers have shown very good performances.

Its unlikely that firing Pioli will solve the problem, but what Milan needs is a defender who has better quality than this.
The majority of Milan fans agree that Milan should immediately fire Pioli from the start of the season. However, from the current rumors, I have a doubt about Thiago Motta. I'm amazed by Bologna performance, but I'm not sure whether Motta can improve Milan position, which is currently in a difficult and stressful phase. I personally would be more confident that Milan could be better if Milan made Conte a coach.

Maldini has a role in giving direction to Pioli in buying players. However, Maldini was fired. This season, Pioli makes his own choice of players, and it is still inconsistent, is that not part of Pioli's fault?


The last golden generation of the Italian national team was formed in 2006, when they won the World Cup. After they all retired, their next generation no longer reached the same level, and we didn't even see a single star who had skills approaching the quality of Pirlo, Totti, or Del Piero, or other legends Cannavaro and Maldini. That's just part of it, even though the quota for local players is still maintained in Serie A, only their quality cannot reach the standards of a star player, so they will always be the first choice when playing at club level.


yup, in 2006 Italy had good players line by line, and currently Italy needs to maximize the existing young players so they can find players who have good skills even though they are not as good as that era.

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November 30, 2023, 09:11:08 AM
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The last golden generation of the Italian national team was formed in 2006, when they won the World Cup. After they all retired, their next generation no longer reached the same level, and we didn't even see a single star who had skills approaching the quality of Pirlo, Totti, or Del Piero, or other legends Cannavaro and Maldini. That's just part of it, even though the quota for local players is still maintained in Serie A, only their quality cannot reach the standards of a star player, so they will always be the first choice when playing at club level.

I think Pioli is not too bad at managing Milan, but to bring Milan to the Scudetto he is not the right person at the moment. His outdated tactics and strategies could not work optimally to catch up with the points left behind by Inter and Juventus. Most recently, he just made Milan defeated by Dortmund, previously Inter, Juventus and Udinese had beaten them at San Siro. In short, it would be better if Pioli were replaced, or it would make the situation even worse, Milan might be thrown out of the top four of the Serie A standings, especially in the UCL I thought there was no longer any hope.
Milan has been performing at their less with Pioli, yes he's trying to maintain draws and mild wins but he's not just the man to give the tempo everyone once knew Milan to possess. Milan has been winning games less than usual and they've been loosing more, it's not good for the team. Their current performance is affecting their league struggles as well as their UCL race too. They lost to Dortmund days back in their home ground, which was bad, they've also embraced more losses in their home ground too and it's put them in a situation that they may eventually loose the same games.

 If they get to play away from home and that'd mean two losses both home and away and definitely it'll keep them down again on the Serie A table. Maybe a change of leadership would do the trick for them and it should be considered too. Pioli is trying but not trying his best and it's a best hand that's needed.

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November 30, 2023, 09:24:28 AM
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Inter's fixture is quite challenging recently. After facing Juventus in the league previously and having a really tiring game against Benfica in the Champions League their next opponent is Napoli. It is a league game I mean. Inter got 2 draws in the games I mentioned. This Napoli game is an away one as well so I'm curious about whether this streak will continue.

Inter can't win against Napoli in away games for a while at the same time. Considering all of these it is quite difficult for me to believe in Inter to win this game. Instead I think both teams to score is one of the best options for this game.
The match against Inter Milan will be the next match to prove that replacing Rudi Garcia was the right decision because at least they got good results against Atlanta even though in the Champions League they lost badly to Real Madrid but that is quite acceptable because their opponents in the Champions League have very good quality this season.
Against Inter Milan, Napoli's advantage is as a home team, it's just that this season Napoli's home game is not good enough because they have suffered several defeats at home so this is a match that is quite difficult to predict, and the betting market gives odds that are not much different for the two teams so no one can far superior, but of course Napoli don't want to lose the momentum to climb to the top and reduce the point difference with the teams above them.

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