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January 16, 2024, 02:49:17 PM
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Juventus and Sassuolo will play today in the 20th round of the Italian championship. I very rarely watch Serie A games, but judging by the statistics Juventus are much stronger. I think we can bet on Juve's victory in this match. Turin team is on the second place, and Sassuolo is on the 14th. So the choice of the winner is obvious. In addition, Juventus plays at home and most likely they will dominate. For me it is obvious that Juventus will be the winner.

Football can be unpredictable, but when we look at the statistics for these two teams, it is clear that Juventus will win this game. They have more quality players, are higher in the league standings, and will be playing at home; all of this will give them an advantage over their opponent, who has been relatively poor in performance and may find themselves in the relegation zone sooner if they do not improve their style of play. They may not have a chance in this match, but facing other teams in their factions and attempting to win those games will greatly assist them in maintaining a higher league position. They’ve won two matches in their last five meetings with Juventus but that doesn’t sound a good record for them to still prevail in this match.

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January 16, 2024, 02:50:56 PM
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Frosinone has experienced around 5 consecutive defeats at Serie A and this proves that Frosinone has weakened and yes, they could be getting closer to the relegation zone if they don't immediately bounce back and collect points.

Frosinone previously also suffered a big defeat in the quarter-finals of the Coppa Italia by Juventus with a score of 4-0 and then today they suffered another big defeat by Atalanta in Serie A with an even bigger score, namely 5-0. I think Frosinone's defense is the problem here. Because Frosinonen is actually quite good at controlling the ball. Even their passing accuracy is 1 percent better than Atalanta. Unfortunately their attack and back lines are completely unreliable. So it's natural that they lose by a lot of scores without being able to get even one goal back.

In fact, there is only one ticket left for Serie B:

Empoli 1.27

Salernitana 1.27

Hellas Verona 1.96

Cagliari 2.33

Frosinone 3.19

Bookmakers believe that Salernitana and Empoli are already there  Grin
Frosinone is only the third candidate to leave Serie A and I think this is justified - they concede a lot, but unlike Cagliari and Verona they score a significant number of goals. As for losing streaks, this is the norm for the basement, just like winning streaks are the norm for teams at the very top.

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January 16, 2024, 03:28:02 PM
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Of course, we still remember the last meeting between these two teams and at that time Juventus suffered a crushing defeat against Sassuolo with a score of 4-2. At that time the match was at Sassuolo's home ground and now it is Juventus' turn to host Sassuolo at the Allianz Stadium. Today will be an event of revenge for Juventus because their defeat to Sassuolo really embarrassed them and quite a few La Vechia Signora fans were disappointed.
Juventus can win the game easily against sassuolo. Sassuolo was failed in keeping its consistency this season. Sassuolo was still placing at the bottom and i have no doubt if juventus can do revenge caused by old lady played far better compared to the last meeting when juventus lost against sassuolo.
Sassuolo may be using fully defensive strategy against juventus soon. The old lady is in the mission to keep consistent till the end of season caused by the situation has forced the club to do that.


It seems like we already know who will win this match and even though Sassuolo were a surprise at the start of the season, they were unable to maintain their results and had to accept the reality of returning to the bottom of the table. On the other hand, Juventus has a strong reason to win to be able to compete more closely with Inter at the top and if Juventus wins again it will cut the difference in points from Inter to two points.
Im going all in juventus. I have some reasons why i pick juventus to win the game instead of sassuolo.

1. Consistency of old lady
2. Defensive line of old lady

I have no doubt that if it can happen soon. Vlahovic is performing quite better and he can also play in the same rhythm with his teammates. Im not even doubting juventus this time. Sassuolo will become an easy opponent for juventus.

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January 16, 2024, 03:34:14 PM
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Juventus and Sassuolo will play today in the 20th round of the Italian championship. I very rarely watch Serie A games, but judging by the statistics Juventus are much stronger. I think we can bet on Juve's victory in this match. Turin team is on the second place, and Sassuolo is on the 14th. So the choice of the winner is obvious. In addition, Juventus plays at home and most likely they will dominate. For me it is obvious that Juventus will be the winner.
Almost everyone would probably think logically like that, because it is very unlikely that Sassuolo will win at home to Juventus today. Moreover, Juventus is always trying hard to win in Serie A this season in order not to be far behind from first place, so it is quite possible to say that Juventus will win this match today because Juventus still really wants to catch up with Inter Milan who are still in at the top of the Serie A standings.
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January 16, 2024, 03:39:36 PM
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Juventus and Sassuolo will play today in the 20th round of the Italian championship. I very rarely watch Serie A games, but judging by the statistics Juventus are much stronger. I think we can bet on Juve's victory in this match. Turin team is on the second place, and Sassuolo is on the 14th. So the choice of the winner is obvious. In addition, Juventus plays at home and most likely they will dominate. For me it is obvious that Juventus will be the winner.

Juventus has a 67% chance of winning while Sassuolo only has 13%  it's not a bad idea if we bet on Juventus it's just that the odds are certainly lower 1.46 for Juventus to win. Sportsbooks have reasons why they favor Juventus, firstly Juventus played as host secondly Juventus wants to stay close to Inter Milan if Juventus draw or lose today, Juventus chances of winning the trophy will become increasingly difficult so that's why Juventus will try to win this match. On the other hand, Sassuolo also needs points to stay away from relegation because they are not yet safe with only 2 points adrift of Verona in 18th position.

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January 16, 2024, 03:55:50 PM
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From what I read about Daniele De Rossi's professional history as a coach, I didn't see him being a coach with a lot of experience in many teams and he didn't have any success with any big team. We'll see how he will do from now on as Roma's coach, the fact is that I particularly watched Roma's games because Mourinho was the coach, now that he is no longer Roma's coach, I'm going to stop watching Roma's games and I will only focus on following the results of all series A games and I will place bets on games in which I see that I have a chance of getting it right
It's not easy to build solid team with limited budget but since arrived to this team Mourinho has successfully make Roma as one of strong team in Europa and Serie A and although recently Roma performance was decline but in my opinion Roma was fine under Mourinho and there is still a time for them to improved their position on league standings as long as Roma owners are willing to be a little more patient and last time i heard Mourinho and Roma is under negotiation for new contract because Mourinho personally feel comfortable to train this team but unfortunately after several poor results Roma have to sacked him

As a player Daniele De Rossi is a Roma legend so every Roma fans was admitting it but for his managerial career Daniele De Rossi has no experience to train big teams before and if i am not mistaken Daniele De Rossi was train SPAL previously the team from Serie B but he was sacked from this team which this is not impressive achievement from him and now Roma has choosing him as a new manager which i think it is very risky because just like i said before he is lack of experience besides that i wonder why Roma didn't learn from Napoli because Napoli has proven that changing managers in the middle of a competition is a bad decision because there is no guarantee Daniele De Rossi wil be able to lifted Roma performance

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January 16, 2024, 03:58:14 PM
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I think it would be really unfair if AS Roma fired Jose Mourinho in the middle of the season. Moreover, Jose Mourinho's performance this season is not too bad, in fact currently AS Roma is ranked 9th even though it is not ideal for a club like Roma to be outside the top five. However, this season Jose Mourinho is faced with difficult conditions because apart from not being able to bring in quality players, he is also faced with many core players who are injured. With the dismissal of Jose Mourinho as AS Roma coach, this is a special note for Mourinho because indeed, in his coaching career at the various clubs he managed, Jose Mourinho never coached a club for more than three seasons, even though he managed to win championships for the clubs he coached.
It was sad to hear the news that Mourinho was fired from As Roma. This is his 6th sacking so that means he will be labeled as a bad manager. He was no longer known as a good manager in 2005. Even though he had many good players such as Dybala, Lukaku, Gini, Matic, Tammy, Patricio, Vina, Pararedes and others. However, As Roma were unable to make changes, they even fell behind Bologna, and currently As Roma is in 9th place. Honestly, looking at these facts, it is natural for As Roma to fire Mourinho.
It must be admitted that Jose Mourinho is one of the most successful coaches in the world of football, he has experienced the atmosphere in different competitions. He also left a good impression on the team he coached by winning the highest title at his club. FC Porto, Inter Milan, Chelsea, Real Madrid have experienced beautiful times while being coached by him. In the last few years he was no longer special because his polish for the team started to fade, several clubs he coached terminated his contract because of the team's poor performance.

The most rational reason for Jose Mourinho dismissal was due to Roma inconsistent performance, even though he had brought in several quality players, he had not been able to make Roma compete in the Champions League zone. Roma patience was no longer limited after they suffered two consecutive defeats to Lazio with a score of 0-1 in the Coppa Italia quarter-finals and to AC Milan with a score of 1-3 in Serie A.


As expected, Roma's performance this season has been disappointing. It's hard to believe that Jose Mourinho, once regarded as the best in the world, faced such challenges. Roma was seen as a top club solely because of him. From my perspective Mourinho did a lot for Roma with limited resources, relying on free-agent players. While the team aims to compete at the top, they opt for loaning players instead of investing in quality ones. The cycle will persist unless they prioritize acquiring talented players.

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January 16, 2024, 04:06:08 PM
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As expected, Roma's performance this season has been disappointing. It's hard to believe that Jose Mourinho, once regarded as the best in the world, faced such challenges. Roma was seen as a top club solely because of him. From my perspective Mourinho did a lot for Roma with limited resources, relying on free-agent players. While the team aims to compete at the top, they opt for loaning players instead of investing in quality ones. The cycle will persist unless they prioritize acquiring talented players.

Mourinho has lost his magic since becoming the coach of a club with a lot of money. Unlike when he was with Porto and Inter Milan, by not buying too many star players, he could provide domestic league trophies. But after becoming MU coach, Mourinho started to look, he had lost that magic. Indeed, at AS Roma, he has won 1 trophy, but in Serie A which was expected to be better, is actually getting worse. On the other hand, Roma may not be able to fire Mourinho, like it or not, Roma will have to wait for Mourinho contract to expire to change their coach. It seems that no club wants to use Mourinho services at this time.

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January 16, 2024, 04:58:33 PM
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As expected, Roma's performance this season has been disappointing. It's hard to believe that Jose Mourinho, once regarded as the best in the world, faced such challenges. Roma was seen as a top club solely because of him. From my perspective Mourinho did a lot for Roma with limited resources, relying on free-agent players. While the team aims to compete at the top, they opt for loaning players instead of investing in quality ones. The cycle will persist unless they prioritize acquiring talented players.

Mourinho has lost his magic since becoming the coach of a club with a lot of money. Unlike when he was with Porto and Inter Milan, by not buying too many star players, he could provide domestic league trophies. But after becoming MU coach, Mourinho started to look, he had lost that magic. Indeed, at AS Roma, he has won 1 trophy, but in Serie A which was expected to be better, is actually getting worse. On the other hand, Roma may not be able to fire Mourinho, like it or not, Roma will have to wait for Mourinho contract to expire to change their coach. It seems that no club wants to use Mourinho services at this time.

Based on the latest news, AS Roma has officially fired Mourinho and his coaching staff and as such, AS Roma has now appointed Daniele De Rossi as interim coach. But even though this news came suddenly, at least I personally am not surprised by AS Roma's decision because yes, after all, AS Roma's position this season continues to be in decline. Moreover, Mourinho's contract will also expire at the end of the season and therefore, it seems like the right decision if AS Roma sacks Mourinho at this moment.

Because yes, it would at least be a worry if AS Roma retained Mourinho until the end of this season, because it could be that AS Roma's position will continue to decline. So yes, at least my assessment about Mourinho is not wrong because yes, however Mourinho has lost his magic to become The Special One because Mourinho always fails to make his team strong to compete in the top four.

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January 16, 2024, 05:02:15 PM
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Frosinone has experienced around 5 consecutive defeats at Serie A and this proves that Frosinone has weakened and yes, they could be getting closer to the relegation zone if they don't immediately bounce back and collect points.

Frosinone previously also suffered a big defeat in the quarter-finals of the Coppa Italia by Juventus with a score of 4-0 and then today they suffered another big defeat by Atalanta in Serie A with an even bigger score, namely 5-0. I think Frosinone's defense is the problem here. Because Frosinonen is actually quite good at controlling the ball. Even their passing accuracy is 1 percent better than Atalanta. Unfortunately their attack and back lines are completely unreliable. So it's natural that they lose by a lot of scores without being able to get even one goal back.

In fact, there is only one ticket left for Serie B:

Empoli 1.27

Salernitana 1.27

Hellas Verona 1.96

Cagliari 2.33

Frosinone 3.19

Bookmakers believe that Salernitana and Empoli are already there  Grin
Frosinone is only the third candidate to leave Serie A and I think this is justified - they concede a lot, but unlike Cagliari and Verona they score a significant number of goals. As for losing streaks, this is the norm for the basement, just like winning streaks are the norm for teams at the very top.

Bookmakers have a sense reason for that. The current standing has been showing that if salernitana and Empoli have at least 5 points gap to the Verona which was still placed at the relegation zone. It makes sense if bookmakers were thinking that if salernitana and Empoli are already there.
Considering the poor performance owned by those clubs make me believe that if salernitana and Empoli will be relegated. We have only the last spot which is still unpredictable as Verona has 1 point gap to leave from the relegation zone.

Verona can go up easily as long as it can win the game at least two games. This is quite hard to do that but Verona has no choice other than try to do it. There is still enough time for Verona to make it.
I were also losing my hope for salernitana and Empoli. These clubs have almost zero chance to leave from the relegation zone. That makes sense if bookmakers favored all of them to be relegated. It's caused by bookmakers were saying based on the data.

Salernitana was always lucky enough cuz this club was always able leaving from the relegation zone but its luck will be fully tested this season. Salernitana needs a miracle to make it happen.

Empoli is also in a. critical situation too. This club needs to do something to secure a spot in series a next season.

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January 16, 2024, 05:04:22 PM
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Juventus and Sassuolo will play today in the 20th round of the Italian championship. I very rarely watch Serie A games, but judging by the statistics Juventus are much stronger. I think we can bet on Juve's victory in this match. Turin team is on the second place, and Sassuolo is on the 14th. So the choice of the winner is obvious. In addition, Juventus plays at home and most likely they will dominate. For me it is obvious that Juventus will be the winner.
Juventus will do everything to win. They entered into a serious struggle in the championship race. They are playing near Inter. Inter made no mistake, beating Monza with 5 goals. Juventus is next. I have full faith that they will play flawlessly today and win. We will watch a good championship race between the two teams, probably until the end of the year.

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January 16, 2024, 05:04:49 PM
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Juventus and Sassuolo will play today in the 20th round of the Italian championship. I very rarely watch Serie A games, but judging by the statistics Juventus are much stronger. I think we can bet on Juve's victory in this match. Turin team is on the second place, and Sassuolo is on the 14th. So the choice of the winner is obvious. In addition, Juventus plays at home and most likely they will dominate. For me it is obvious that Juventus will be the winner.
Almost everyone would probably think logically like that, because it is very unlikely that Sassuolo will win at home to Juventus today. Moreover, Juventus is always trying hard to win in Serie A this season in order not to be far behind from first place, so it is quite possible to say that Juventus will win this match today because Juventus still really wants to catch up with Inter Milan who are still in at the top of the Serie A standings.

Should be an easy 3 points for Juventus.

First of all, they should try to get 3 points from this match because they will have to be as close as they can with Inter if they want to be in the title race.
And secondly, Juventus should not have any problem winning this match because they are facing a rather easy opponent.
And thirdly this is an easy match for Juventus because they are playing in their home ground.

So I don't think there is any reason for them to lose this match. Sassuolo did win the last match but I don't think they are in a good enough form to beat Juventus and I also think they are simply not good enough to beat Juventus.

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January 16, 2024, 05:19:28 PM
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Juventus will do everything to win. They entered into a serious struggle in the championship race. They are playing near Inter. Inter made no mistake, beating Monza with 5 goals. Juventus is next. I have full faith that they will play flawlessly today and win. We will watch a good championship race between the two teams, probably until the end of the year.
Juventus is slowly getting stronger and is now a strong competitor to Inter Milan, and of course they have to try as hard as they can to achieve victory, in fact their main target this season is to win the Serie A title. This is not a difficult thing considering that Juventus only competes in Serie A this time, Inter. You have to think about the UCL and Serie A leagues simultaneously, of course they are prone to losing points. The crushing victory over Monza also proved that they have a sharp front line, hopefully crushing wins like this can continue in the next matches.

Massimiliano Allegri has also made many extraordinary breakthroughs this season. Even though his strategy is too monotonous, the positive side is that he dares to give young players the opportunity to play in the First Team. The proof is that Miretti, Huijsen, Nicolussi, Yildiz, Fagioli and Illing-Junior are clear examples for Juventus in producing future Juventus players.

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January 16, 2024, 05:31:40 PM
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Should be an easy 3 points for Juventus.

First of all, they should try to get 3 points from this match because they will have to be as close as they can with Inter if they want to be in the title race.
And secondly, Juventus should not have any problem winning this match because they are facing a rather easy opponent.
And thirdly this is an easy match for Juventus because they are playing in their home ground.

So I don't think there is any reason for them to lose this match. Sassuolo did win the last match but I don't think they are in a good enough form to beat Juventus and I also think they are simply not good enough to beat Juventus.

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I don't think that playing against Sassoulo will be an easy match and three points for Juventus,If you look at the performance of the two teams so far of course Juventus are quite superior in the match, but remember Sassuolo is not a team that should be underestimated, especially in the last two matches between Juventus and Sassuolo In fact Sassuolo was able to destroy Juventus, currently Juventus has the opportunity to reduce the distance from Intermilan and of course the demand not to lose the match against Sassuolo will put a big burden on the players, some people think that Sasauolo is a weak team especially since they only won 5 from 19 matches, but if we look at the majority of the teams that Sassuolo beat this season are big teams like Inter, Juventus and Fiorentina, so for this reason I don't think that Juventus will be able to beat Sassuolo very easily because after all football often provides unexpected surprises including a team that is underestimated, it can actually embarrass the favorite team.

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TeamPoint
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Juve
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Milan
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Fiorentina
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Lazio
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Bologna
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Napoli
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Lecce
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Sassuolo
19
Frosinone
19
Udinese
18
Cagliari
18
Verona
17
Empoli
13
Salernitana
12

The distance from Inter to Juventus remain -2 and also Juventus - Milan not change. The first 3 positions are cristallized.
Napoli not go down (with salernitana) and other team raising points!

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January 16, 2024, 06:21:18 PM
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Yes of course, AC Milan is not quite on the same level as Inter and Juventus although it seemed as if they were amont the teams competing for the title. But I think they are quite in between for now. Not as good as Inter and Juventus, but stronger than the teams behind them.

It wouldn't be only about Inter losing more than 10 points in the next 18 games, but it is also about AC MIlan winning all the games and that will not happen. Or maybe never say never,  but it would be quite unprecedented I think.
They do it very nice in yesterdays game. Winning against AS Roma is not so easy, but they are in a crisis at the moment, they have lost 4 of their last 7 games. Coach Jose Mourinho is currently not able to improve this series, he has a good team, but they are missing there motivation. 1 point from the last 3 games, which means they have fallen back to 9th place in the league. It is strange with such good players in offense, for example El Shaarawy, R. Lukaku or Belotti. At AC Milan, Olivier Giroud surprised me, he still plays in the starting line-up at the age of 37 and also scored a great goal. He play the whole game and wasnt substituted, but his teammates in the offense Pulisic and Rafael Leao go out.

But now we finally saw some consequences happening and Mourinho got sacked. I haven't read all the news yet, but I guess we will soon see Mourinho sit on the bench in the Saudi Professional League for some club. He really didn't look very motivated recently. A few emotions here and there, but it wasn't what we got to see from Mourinho when he was still burning on the inside. I think once he realized this season that it won't be an exciting title fight, he lost motivation and his performance as a coach decreased along with the players' performances.

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January 16, 2024, 06:26:10 PM
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Yes of course, AC Milan is not quite on the same level as Inter and Juventus although it seemed as if they were amont the teams competing for the title. But I think they are quite in between for now. Not as good as Inter and Juventus, but stronger than the teams behind them.

It wouldn't be only about Inter losing more than 10 points in the next 18 games, but it is also about AC MIlan winning all the games and that will not happen. Or maybe never say never,  but it would be quite unprecedented I think.
They do it very nice in yesterdays game. Winning against AS Roma is not so easy, but they are in a crisis at the moment, they have lost 4 of their last 7 games. Coach Jose Mourinho is currently not able to improve this series, he has a good team, but they are missing there motivation. 1 point from the last 3 games, which means they have fallen back to 9th place in the league. It is strange with such good players in offense, for example El Shaarawy, R. Lukaku or Belotti. At AC Milan, Olivier Giroud surprised me, he still plays in the starting line-up at the age of 37 and also scored a great goal. He play the whole game and wasnt substituted, but his teammates in the offense Pulisic and Rafael Leao go out.

But now we finally saw some consequences happening and Mourinho got sacked. I haven't read all the news yet, but I guess we will soon see Mourinho sit on the bench in the Saudi Professional League for some club. He really didn't look very motivated recently. A few emotions here and there, but it wasn't what we got to see from Mourinho when he was still burning on the inside. I think once he realized this season that it won't be an exciting title fight, he lost motivation and his performance as a coach decreased along with the players' performances.
For Mourinho, the only possibility will now be Saudi Arabia. I haven't looked at the league and I don't know if there is a team that will change coaches between teams, but probably a team in Saudi Arabia will manage it. After all, he is not in financial trouble. Moreover, he can transfer players to his own team with his personal closeness. I am looking forward to the next team that Mourinho will manage.

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January 16, 2024, 06:48:26 PM
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Jose Mourinho has been sacked as AS Roma coach with an immediate effect with the owners of the claiming they needed a change in the club which necessitated their action. Mourinho who was employed as the coach of the team in 2021 during his time won the UEFA Conference League title and led Roma to the Europa league cup finals unlucky for him he lost  to Sevilla. Despite the management of Roma never giving him the budget he requests to get the level of talented players of his taste Mourinho still was able to take the club to achieve this height only to get sacked sadly. This to me is a risky decision by the As Roma owners I wonder who at this moment can fit into coaching this current Roma team and make success without available funds to sign in needed stars into the club.

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To be honest, Roma did not do well by removing Jose Mourinho. While Mourinho is undoubtedly one of the best coaches in the world, and he always tries his hardest to ensure that Roma continues to perform well, things don't work that way. Mourinho has won a trophy for Roma before, and they know it. The way the team handled his dismissal was harsh, and they shouldn't have done that. I watched a video of Mourinho leaving Roma while some fans were crying and filming him in his car. While some people thought he could help the team, others believed he was the reason for the team's subpar play.

Sometimes it's necessary to realise that a team's poor performance isn't always the coach's fault; instead, we should look at the players' performance. When a player isn't performing well during a season, the team should look at how they perform. If this happens, the only thing the team should do is sell some players and acquire new ones in order to improve the team's performance. Let's be honest, Roma will regret this because, in my opinion, the team won't be able to perform well again unless they acquire new players, and I believe mourinho will soon see a new team.

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January 16, 2024, 06:58:12 PM
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Finally Roma couldn't stand the bad results and fired Jose Mourinho. Despite the failure of such a quality squad, they withstood Mourinho well. He should have been fired long ago. He was replaced by Daniele De Rossi. Roma will try to get into the top 6 this season and go to the European cups. They have no other goal left. The first 3 teams widened the point gap. Many clubs are fighting to be 4th. Even if Roma finishes the league in the top 6, it would be a success for them.

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January 16, 2024, 06:59:19 PM
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For Mourinho, the only possibility will now be Saudi Arabia. I haven't looked at the league and I don't know if there is a team that will change coaches between teams, but probably a team in Saudi Arabia will manage it. After all, he is not in financial trouble. Moreover, he can transfer players to his own team with his personal closeness. I am looking forward to the next team that Mourinho will manage.
I never expected Roma to sack Mourinho considering that he has brought some a European trophy to the club. I thought he would be allowed to coach the club till the end of the season. Roma management became impatient and they felt that Daniele De Rossi would do better than the special one. Mourinho has not coached a team for more than three years and it has become his trademark. The former Roma coach turned down a lucrative deal to coach a Saudi club because he wanted to remain in Italy and keep building a team he cherished.

But with a lack of interest from top clubs in Europe to sign him, he might consider moving to the Saudi professional league. After all, he once hinted that he would move to the Arabian league in the future and maybe this might be the right time. And the money he will make in Saudi Arabia would be higher than what he had ever earned in any club, this might also be a motivating factor to shun any interest from Europe.

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