Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Sebas.tian]

Bundesliga will resume this weekend. We have Bayern to win vs Leverkusen, otherwise it will be very awkward situation.
Dortmund will face Koln with interesting odds 2 vs 3.3. A draw will be appreciated too so Bayern can get closer to the first place
Union has lower odds than Frankfurt! 3.3 Union vs 2.2 Frankfurt. Not sure if this is an opportunity to x3 the money or a trap?
Bremen and M'Gladbach have very close odds around 2.5 which is attractive and risky at the same time.

It won't be nice if Bayern Munich give Leverkusen the opportunity to win. If Leverkusen win Bayern Munich I think fans will be disappointed in Bayern Munich for them to still continue in their weak performance.

I still believe Dortmund will defeat Koln.

Bayern Munich will defeat Leverkusen 2-0 to make their fans happy, because their fans are not happy about the poor performance they are experiencing from the beginning of this season that is causing them fear if Bayern Munich will go far in this tournament. I think, Bayern Munich will do everything possible within their power to win their next match to alert other teams that they are now in good position to achieve something good from this tournament. Dortmund will defeat Koln 3-1 for the favour of Dortmund, because Dortmund players are very good in this season which is one of the advantage they will use to embrace victory from Koln in their next match.

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[Lafu]

With the current position from bayern and i don't think that bayern will give free point for leverkusen. Bayern needs to work very hard to get full points in bundesliga.

I guess that Bayern Munich was thinking this the whole time the last 3 Weeks and that they wouldnt be get anybody a point of the games they played.
But reality them the other side and i think that it will be a hard game for both Bayern Munich and Leverkusen .
It can be a draw again but i expect normaly a win for Munich at home , they are under pressure now to win.

[Swordsoffreedom]

With the way Bayern Munich have performed in their last four matches, it looks like it will be very difficult for them to win against Leverkusen. However, Leverkusen's performance has been poor this season. They managed to win one out of 7 matches. In the last two matches, Leverkusen manages to draw. Their target will be to get 1 point in the next match as well. On the other hand, Bayern Munich has no choice but to win against Leverkusen if they want to get back on track. As Bayern's attack is a bit weak, Julian Nagelsmann should change his match strategy.

Last season Leverkusen was finish at champion league zone so i assume they will continue their good records and compete for top 4 but i was clearly wrong because their performance were quite poor this season even Leverkusen cannot able to get points while against mediocre team such as Augsburg or Mainz 05 so against Bayern they have low possibilities to win the match and for Bayern this could be good time to bounce back considering Leverkusen is very weak but i don't want to speculated because they also not in the good shape

The Augsburg team cannot be called mediocre. They have also won against strong teams like Bayern Munich. However, Leverkusen's performance has been very poor this season. They are 15th on the table. Due to weak defense, Leverkusen failed to perform well. They conceded 12 goals in 7 matches. Leverkusen's players need to be more confident. Without confidence, their performance will not improve. They have to believe that winning against Bayern Munich is difficult but not impossible. Only then they can perform well.

[Jody.Drummer]

It's interesting to see how Leverkusen is working now. They are just one notch above the relegation zone, having just one win and a disappointing 4 defeats. In the last three games they can only collect 2 points.

It is hard to understand Leverkusen this season. Somehow they started to lose their concentration and they continue to get poor results in the Bundesliga. This is another challenging game for them even though Bayern Munich are also in a bad shape in the league. We will see which one of them is better about taking advantage of the condition of their opponent. I won't trust any side to bet on even a bit and both teams would score I assume.

I wonder what Bayern Munich will be able to do in a tough game without a striker. Most probably we would see Mane as the centre-forward.

With Leverkusen's current condition, Bayern should be able to take advantage of the current momentum, considering that with Leverkusen at this time, which has so many gaps, it will be a big loss if Bayern have to accept a draw or lose, especially Nagelsmann, his position is not too safe so they don't want to now have to maximize this match. so that everything returns to normal and Nagelsmann can breathe more easily.

It's true that Leverkusen's performance this season has been very disappointing, they don't play like a strong team,  I don't know what's wrong
with Leverkusen this season. Leverkusen are playing like a different team this season, in 7 matches they only won one it was a very bad result.
Leverkusen are currently in 15th position, which would almost fall into the relegation zone if they do not immediately improve their form.
The problem is that Leverkusen's next match will be against Bayern, which is a tough opponent to beat. Although Bayern's performance has declined
this season, Bayern is still a big team with better quality players than Leverkusen. So it looks like Leverkusen will continue their poor run against Bayern,
because Bayern themselves will definitely try to win when playing at their own home.

Actually until now I don't see any comparison because the difference is far enough that it can't be compared.
regardless of how these two clubs play, the difference is still very uneven between Bayern and Leverkusen because currently Leverkusen are much more worried than Bayern.

[YuginKadoya]

I really don't doubt that Sadio Mane is a world class player, but when I heard about the successful transfer from Liverpool to Bayern, I instantly asked myself the question whether Mane can perform the same way for Bayern as he did for Liverpool. Sometimes a player fits perfectly into a certain system or put differently, builds an integral part of that system, and also perfectly harmonizes with the team mates, especially the offensive ones.

Now is Mane the right fit for the offensive style of Bayern compared to Liverpool? I doubt it. Mane's role was a significant one in Liverpool in particular for Salah, Mane understands to create space and attract defensive players of the opponent in order to create chances for Salah.

That is why I think he isn't a "substitute" for Lewandowski at all. Contrary to what many might have expected from him, I thought Mane would have been the perfect addition FOR Lewandowski's style. Mane and Lewandowski would have worked out very well I believe. Now there is no player with the absolute killer instinct who could benefit from Mane's style. This might indeed turn into kind of a deadlock for Bayern when it comes to their offensive effectiveness.

I totally agreed, watching him play for Liverpool was really a remarkable sight but with Bayern Munich at 1st he is doing kind of great but in shifting his position there they will have a problem on that since he is not familiar with that kind of position, but I can not say he isn't really fit the bill for Bayern Munich all Nagelsmann needs to do is to keep his position intact and do what he does best and give that position to a more prominent player that could likely score a goal, likely Sadio Mane having those mistakes is likely he is not used for that, but I think Nagelsmann is likely doing something here, he seems confident that Sadio Mane can pull this off, but we are in the Matchday 8 but I think we will likely see on Bayern VS Leverkusen,

why give an opportunity to the opponent because clearly their condition is also not very good.
Now Leverkusen are in their worst form from the previous few seasons I think and this should be a momentum for Bayern to get maximum results unlike the previous matches they did.

100% Bayern Munich will surely win this, that is for sure, I know Bayern Munich is not in their 100% form, but Leverkusen is down the negative of their performance having 1 win, 2 draws and 4 losses now, Bayern Munich doesn't need to worry but he is also right because Bayern Munich sometimes let their guard down when they know their opponent is not that good on their form, so likely they could have underestimated Leverkusen, but I wish they will do this with their most intent to win, not giving any opportunity at all for Leverkusen,

[laurenB7742]

why give an opportunity to the opponent because clearly their condition is also not very good.
Now Leverkusen are in their worst form from the previous few seasons I think and this should be a momentum for Bayern to get maximum results unlike the previous matches they did.

100% Bayern Munich will surely win this, that is for sure, I know Bayern Munich is not in their 100% form, but Leverkusen is down the negative of their performance having 1 win, 2 draws and 4 losses now, Bayern Munich doesn't need to worry but he is also right because Bayern Munich sometimes let their guard down when they know their opponent is not that good on their form, so likely they could have underestimated Leverkusen, but I wish they will do this with their most intent to win, not giving any opportunity at all for Leverkusen,

I see no reason to think that Leverkusen is a weak team. Leverkusen is a renownd team in the Bundesliga. They may not play well this season, the team is not stable enough yet. Their performance is erratic. Still, their team is good enough. And they have the ability to pick up points against Bayern Munich. Also, the Bayern Munich team has been defeated by weak opponents like Augsburg in the last match. So Bayern Munich is not in a good position now. So I can't say with absolute certainty that Bayern Munich will win this match. The match is also likely to be a draw.

[shogun47]

I really don't doubt that Sadio Mane is a world class player, but when I heard about the successful transfer from Liverpool to Bayern, I instantly asked myself the question whether Mane can perform the same way for Bayern as he did for Liverpool. Sometimes a player fits perfectly into a certain system or put differently, builds an integral part of that system, and also perfectly harmonizes with the team mates, especially the offensive ones.

Now is Mane the right fit for the offensive style of Bayern compared to Liverpool? I doubt it. Mane's role was a significant one in Liverpool in particular for Salah, Mane understands to create space and attract defensive players of the opponent in order to create chances for Salah.

That is why I think he isn't a "substitute" for Lewandowski at all. Contrary to what many might have expected from him, I thought Mane would have been the perfect addition FOR Lewandowski's style. Mane and Lewandowski would have worked out very well I believe. Now there is no player with the absolute killer instinct who could benefit from Mane's style. This might indeed turn into kind of a deadlock for Bayern when it comes to their offensive effectiveness.

I totally agreed, watching him play for Liverpool was really a remarkable sight but with Bayern Munich at 1st he is doing kind of great but in shifting his position there they will have a problem on that since he is not familiar with that kind of position, but I can not say he isn't really fit the bill for Bayern Munich all Nagelsmann needs to do is to keep his position intact and do what he does best and give that position to a more prominent player that could likely score a goal, likely Sadio Mane having those mistakes is likely he is not used for that, but I think Nagelsmann is likely doing something here, he seems confident that Sadio Mane can pull this off, but we are in the Matchday 8 but I think we will likely see on Bayern VS Leverkusen,

why give an opportunity to the opponent because clearly their condition is also not very good.
Now Leverkusen are in their worst form from the previous few seasons I think and this should be a momentum for Bayern to get maximum results unlike the previous matches they did.

100% Bayern Munich will surely win this, that is for sure, I know Bayern Munich is not in their 100% form, but Leverkusen is down the negative of their performance having 1 win, 2 draws and 4 losses now, Bayern Munich doesn't need to worry but he is also right because Bayern Munich sometimes let their guard down when they know their opponent is not that good on their form, so likely they could have underestimated Leverkusen, but I wish they will do this with their most intent to win, not giving any opportunity at all for Leverkusen,

No, imagine your best throw in basketball is three yards high and you have an offensive player who is tall enough to catch it and dunk it, but now the player is gone. But your quality was this perfect pass at that height.

What I am saying is that Mane and Salah exploited all the potential synergies between them, but what are you going to do if the other half of the two-pieces puzzle is missing?

It is difficult to judge and also difficult to argue that Mane should be able to adjust to another system. At times a system really works perfectly well and then the sentence "never change a running system" simply applies.

Can Mane really change his style so much that he can be as valuable for Bayern as he used to be for Liverpool? I doubt it for now. That doesn't make him a bad player at all. He is brilliant. But if you are a professional rally driver, would you still be as good in another racing discipline? I know that comparison isn't perfect. But looking back at Mane's role in Liverpool and the players he had around him and how they harmonized with each other, it doesn't seem to be the same at Bayern.

It remains to be seen whether he can find a way (and also the Bayern players can find a way) to get the best out him as a soccer player.

[rahmad2nd]

With Leverkusen's current condition, Bayern should be able to take advantage of the current momentum, considering that with Leverkusen at this time, which has so many gaps, it will be a big loss if Bayern have to accept a draw or lose, especially Nagelsmann, his position is not too safe so they don't want to now have to maximize this match. so that everything returns to normal and Nagelsmann can breathe more easily.

Leverkusen have won just one of their seven games this season, drawing two and losing four.
Of course, this is not what leverkusen fans expect. however, Leverkusen was able to surprise during the match against Atletico Madrid in the Champions League.
This is what Nagelsmann should pay attention to when they will play the match against Leverkusen later, although Leverkusen is not favored in this match, but in the match Leverkusen may surprise. especially now that Bayern Munich is in a negative trend, of course it is not easy for Nagelsmann and his players. In this match, like it or not, Nagelsmann must win three points to improve his position on the table and get his trust back.

[bct_ail]

The Augsburg team cannot be called mediocre. They have also won against strong teams like Bayern Munich.

But the match between Augsburg and Bayern Munich is not an ordinary game either. Augsburg is about an hour away and that is already a derby. Therefore such a game has a completely different atmosphere and the Undergog is playing differently than usual.

[Jody.Drummer]

With Leverkusen's current condition, Bayern should be able to take advantage of the current momentum, considering that with Leverkusen at this time, which has so many gaps, it will be a big loss if Bayern have to accept a draw or lose, especially Nagelsmann, his position is not too safe so they don't want to now have to maximize this match. so that everything returns to normal and Nagelsmann can breathe more easily.

Leverkusen have won just one of their seven games this season, drawing two and losing four.
Of course, this is not what leverkusen fans expect. however, Leverkusen was able to surprise during the match against Atletico Madrid in the Champions League.
This is what Nagelsmann should pay attention to when they will play the match against Leverkusen later, although Leverkusen is not favored in this match, but in the match Leverkusen may surprise. especially now that Bayern Munich is in a negative trend, of course it is not easy for Nagelsmann and his players. In this match, like it or not, Nagelsmann must win three points to improve his position on the table and get his trust back.

Uniquely these two clubs both achieved interesting results at the time in the Liga Champions, but after returning to the Bundesliga they achieved disappointing results. I can still think that Bayern Munich is more focused on the Champions League, but for Leverkusen I can't think so. The reason is, for a bigger scale like the Champions League I don't think that Leverkusen will be able to do that, considering the opponents they will face are very strong. So it's more realistic they focus on the Bundesliga alone.

The Augsburg team cannot be called mediocre. They have also won against strong teams like Bayern Munich.

But the match between Augsburg and Bayern Munich is not an ordinary game either. Augsburg is about an hour away and that is already a derby. Therefore such a game has a completely different atmosphere and the Undergog is playing differently than usual.

Augsburg is a mid-table club every season. They've been consistent but just as a club that can't get out of mid-table, they can't get better than that every season. As for them not being an ordinary club, I agree with that. But they are only able to make things difficult and can't deliver surprises that make us really not believe that it is them. They were able to beat Bayern Munich, but that's what other clubs are doing now. This means that Bayern Munich is not in a stable condition.

[bering]

Bayern München will play on Friday after international break. Will this have a negative effect on them? I think Bayern will win no matter what because Bayer Leverkusen is in a very bad shape this season. Normally, they were a team that pushed Bayern, but with this form, it's very difficult for them to get points from the match. Very low odds for Bayern München win though, it might be better to play over 2.5 goals bet.

Nothing you can do against the odds because as the favourite bookie will always be provide low odds for Bayern for each season although this season they had poor performance but for every matches the odds for them will always be less than @1.5 and regarding the match against Leverkusen i had checked odds for Bayern @1.34 i think it's quite decent considering they have good chances to win the match moreover Bayern as a host and compared to other option i think Bayern moneyline is more good and over 2.5 goals also has lowest odds only @1.27

[hahay]

Bayern München will play on Friday after international break. Will this have a negative effect on them? I think Bayern will win no matter what because Bayer Leverkusen is in a very bad shape this season. Normally, they were a team that pushed Bayern, but with this form, it's very difficult for them to get points from the match. Very low odds for Bayern München win though, it might be better to play over 2.5 goals bet.

Nothing you can do against the odds because as the favourite bookie will always be provide low odds for Bayern for each season although this season they had poor performance but for every matches the odds for them will always be less than @1.5 and regarding the match against Leverkusen i had checked odds for Bayern @1.34 i think it's quite decent considering they have good chances to win the match moreover Bayern as a host and compared to other option i think Bayern moneyline is more good and over 2.5 goals also has lowest odds only @1.27

Nothing is certain, even if you completely ignore the notes on paper you can bet for a draw @6.00. Because at this moment even though Bayern Munich are favorites to win but the end result can be very different, look at how previously Bayern Munich was defeated by Augsburg and even when Bayern Munich played at home but Stuttgart managed to hold on to a 2-2 score. So in this moment if you are not really sure it would be better to avoid it, because Bayern Munich are still in trouble in their performance and moreover their key players are part of the national team and of course that will be a factor of fatigue.

[bullrun2024bro]

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i doubt that too. actually, this is/was the best phase, the best time to build up a certain distance to bayern, but even that was not achieved by the clubs you mentioned (bvb, rbl) - so bayern munich is taking a little break from performance and will still be in 1st place again at the end of the season

That's probably how it will be. Especially now that FC Bayern is weakening in the Bundesliga, the other top teams should be hungry and build a points lead. But it's like so often, the other teams are again struggling with their own problems and unsteady performances. It will be hard to win the title like this.

But maybe Bayern will lose a few more times and make it a little easier for Borussia Dortmund and the other competitors. It probably won't work without Bayern's help. 

[S A KHAIR]

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i doubt that too. actually, this is/was the best phase, the best time to build up a certain distance to bayern, but even that was not achieved by the clubs you mentioned (bvb, rbl) - so bayern munich is taking a little break from performance and will still be in 1st place again at the end of the season

That's probably how it will be. Especially now that FC Bayern is weakening in the Bundesliga, the other top teams should be hungry and build a points lead. But it's like so often, the other teams are again struggling with their own problems and unsteady performances. It will be hard to win the title like this.
But maybe Bayern will lose a few more times and make it a little easier for Borussia Dortmund and the other competitors. It probably won't work without Bayern's help. 

Bayern Munich has lost form badly. Now teams like Dortmund and Union Berlin should take advantage of this opportunity. And keep the top spot in the points table. If Dortmund and Union Berlin are able to continue their performances, it will become more difficult for Bayern Munich to win the title this season. And I would be happy to see a new champions team.

[TopT3ns]

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i doubt that too. actually, this is/was the best phase, the best time to build up a certain distance to bayern, but even that was not achieved by the clubs you mentioned (bvb, rbl) - so bayern munich is taking a little break from performance and will still be in 1st place again at the end of the season

That's probably how it will be. Especially now that FC Bayern is weakening in the Bundesliga, the other top teams should be hungry and build a points lead. But it's like so often, the other teams are again struggling with their own problems and unsteady performances. It will be hard to win the title like this.

But maybe Bayern will lose a few more times and make it a little easier for Borussia Dortmund and the other competitors. It probably won't work without Bayern's help. 

Bayern munich reportedly lack attacking players so at this time they still haven't shown their strength again, losing Robert Lewandowski is the hardest thing for them because they can't get a replacement for a new player like him, but I hope they can recover quickly and get new players who have skills which is almost the same as Lewandowski.

[KTChampions]

Maybe you are right, in the end it's subjective impressions. But personally, I see everything the same as in previous seasons, but in the face of certain problems in Bayern. I can't say that Union Berlin, Borussia or Freiburg show a super interesting game. Yes, now they have good results, but I do not believe that they will keep this level until the end of the season. And the bookmakers don't believe it either - Bayern's quotes for the title are 1.14 - even the handicap that some clubs now have against Bayern is considered insignificant.

Many are still believing that Bayern Munich will eventually turn the tables around, despite getting losses from below-the-standing teams, this goes to show that there are still many people not really think that this season will end for Bayern Munich, not a champion, I am truly amazed on people believing that this season will end with Bayern Munich still champion despite having kicked by Augsburg, and getting tied by Union Berlin and Stuttgart,

Let me clarify, do you think Bayern won't be Bundesliga champions this year?  And who do you think will be the champion? Borussia which is currently quoted as 9.65? Leipzig with odds of 28.3? Or Union Berlin with odds of 42? If you consider these estimates unfair, then you can easily "punish" bookmakers for such predictions, because bookmakers are always ready to answer for their predictions with money.

[izsara]

why give an opportunity to the opponent because clearly their condition is also not very good.
Now Leverkusen are in their worst form from the previous few seasons I think and this should be a momentum for Bayern to get maximum results unlike the previous matches they did.

100% Bayern Munich will surely win this, that is for sure, I know Bayern Munich is not in their 100% form, but Leverkusen is down the negative of their performance having 1 win, 2 draws and 4 losses now, Bayern Munich doesn't need to worry but he is also right because Bayern Munich sometimes let their guard down when they know their opponent is not that good on their form, so likely they could have underestimated Leverkusen, but I wish they will do this with their most intent to win, not giving any opportunity at all for Leverkusen,

Well this is one factor that must be emphasized.
Even though Bayern's current performance is still not very good but in terms of performance it is clear Leverkusen are much worse so their chances of winning are difficult now and even getting a draw is quite difficult in my opinion.
At the moment Bayern just have to improve their goal productivity because in the last few games they have struggled there but Leverkusen currently have a lot of gaps.

[AakZaki]

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Despite Bayern playing its weakest season in years, none of the Bundesliga "top teams" can put themselves in a promising position. That's worrying and makes me doubt whether any other team than Bayern should really succeed in winning the Bundesliga at the end of the season. But we will see, miracles happen from time to time.

Some people have said this is bad for Bayern Munich because of the poor results in the League. Four games without a win and one loss, cost them a few points and dropped out of the top three of the provisional standings.  But until now I am still confident in the strength of Bayern Munich. The league has just started, there are still many games. There are still many opportunities, they just need to be consistent to keep winning. Being a stable team in one season is the key to getting a champion. That experience still belongs to Bayern Munich to this day.

[W Jr.]

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i doubt that too. actually, this is/was the best phase, the best time to build up a certain distance to bayern, but even that was not achieved by the clubs you mentioned (bvb, rbl) - so bayern munich is taking a little break from performance and will still be in 1st place again at the end of the season

That's probably how it will be. Especially now that FC Bayern is weakening in the Bundesliga, the other top teams should be hungry and build a points lead. But it's like so often, the other teams are again struggling with their own problems and unsteady performances. It will be hard to win the title like this.
But maybe Bayern will lose a few more times and make it a little easier for Borussia Dortmund and the other competitors. It probably won't work without Bayern's help. 

Bayern Munich has lost form badly. Now teams like Dortmund and Union Berlin should take advantage of this opportunity. And keep the top spot in the points table. If Dortmund and Union Berlin are able to continue their performances, it will become more difficult for Bayern Munich to win the title this season. And I would be happy to see a new champions team.

I would like to see a new champion too, but I don't know if Union and Dortmund can continue this performance.  Maybe Borussia Dortmund can get the championship they want this year. Bayern Munich cannot accept any more mistakes. The championship is the easiest target for them in the Bundesliga. But this year, they may not be able to do that. We can have an interesting season in the Bundesliga.

[BuNga_cute]

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i doubt that too. actually, this is/was the best phase, the best time to build up a certain distance to bayern, but even that was not achieved by the clubs you mentioned (bvb, rbl) - so bayern munich is taking a little break from performance and will still be in 1st place again at the end of the season

That's probably how it will be. Especially now that FC Bayern is weakening in the Bundesliga, the other top teams should be hungry and build a points lead. But it's like so often, the other teams are again struggling with their own problems and unsteady performances. It will be hard to win the title like this.

But maybe Bayern will lose a few more times and make it a little easier for Borussia Dortmund and the other competitors. It probably won't work without Bayern's help. 

Bayern munich reportedly lack attacking players so at this time they still haven't shown their strength again, losing Robert Lewandowski is the hardest thing for them because they can't get a replacement for a new player like him, but I hope they can recover quickly and get new players who have skills which is almost the same as Lewandowski.

I don't think Bayern lacks forwards, because in their squad there are several forwards. Such as Sadio Mane, Thomas Muller, Mathys Tel and
Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting. Indeed, Bayern's current forward has not played as well as Lewandowski, even Sadio Mane who was bought to
replace Lewandowski has not shown satisfactory form so far as a center forward. Because Mane is actually better if he plays as a winger than
a center forward. It must be admitted that the impact of losing Lewandowski was indeed very big for Bayern. However, Bayern must be able to
rediscover their best form without Lewandowski. But because the transfer market has closed, Bayern for now should be able to use
the available forwards.

I'm sure Bayern can get back to the top again, although without Lewandowski Bayern in my opinion is still the best club in the Bundesliga.
But they just need to find a new effective strategy, this is the task of Nagelsmann as Bayern coach in order to change their playing strategy
to be more effective. We'll see if this week when Bayern face Leverkusen Nagelsmann will make a change in strategy or not. But in my opinion
Nagelsmann should change Bayern's playing strategy, because without Lewandowski of course there should be a change in strategy.
And also seeing the form of Bayern which has struggled to win in the last few matches, it's a sign they have to change their style of play.