⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽

[FiliOrangGila]

I'll try to raise a discussion here about how Manchester United could have won the title this season if their manager wasn't Ruben Amorim with his signature 3-4-3 formation.

Manchester United currently has 22 points from 14 matches.
Not losing to Everton and not drawing against West Ham United is their main opportunity to secure a top-four finish, strengthening their chances of catching up with Arsenal, as Manchester City is currently doing.

The inconsistency of Manchester City and Chelsea would have been a challenge if Amorim wasn't the manager, but rather Ruud van Nistelrooy, with his signature 4-3-3 formation. He once brought the best out of the Manchester United squad during his interim tenure, with Mainoo a key player in midfield.

Naturally, the 3-4-3 formation is not a formation that has been established for decades since the Ferguson era. Manchester United usually uses a flat back four, in a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 pattern, and even in Manchester United's youth teams, the pattern is also the same, 4-4-2 or 4-3-3. So it can be said that Amroin insists on applying the formation and strategy he wants. If the results are good, it wouldn't be a problem, but what happens is that Manchester United often gets poor results. If poor results occur, the coach should be more flexible in applying his strategy so that the team can produce good results, which is a victory. Not stubbornly sticking to his strategy even though the results are always bad.

[MorganaX]

You know even in my dreams I can't imagine leeds coming from behind to make an equalizer considering the goal margin and how far they have gone, I know for a fact that liverpool is not in their Best form but the mistake they made yesterday is a remarkable one. I never knew Leeds united is that strong, it was actually my first time of watching thier performance because I saw them drawing with bigger teams why others was having hard time in wining them it was yesterday I witnessed everything . and yeah, I would say that Leeds united has improved a lot and with what I'm seeing they may likely escape relegation this season because thier performance shows that they are willing to stay in premier league.

Yeah, I also didn't think Leeds had it in them to be able to score as much goals as they did. It was quite surprising to have them equalize and managed to hold Liverpool to a draw despite coming from behind. Liverpool isn't in their best form and they probably weren't at their best in the game with Leeds to have conceded that number of goals. If given some more time, who knows? Leeds just might have scored another goal to put them in the lead and might have gone ahead to win that game.
They just might escape relegation this season if they continue to put up that much of a fight in their upcoming games as they did in the game with Liverpool.

The crisis this season with Liverpool is something else, as I have not been able to figure out what is exactly wrong with Liverpool, they have failed in every angle as we expected in the early hours of the season. If I may ask in this game, who may saw it coming that, Leeds United will definitely come from behind to equalize with Liverpool, no one expected it, but they did. Liverpool team this season is something that one needs to explain something that is basically missing. Right now I don't think it is the tactics of the team, and this is what I have been believing, but right now, it is something else that I don't really know the exact cause.

[TelolettOm]

The crisis this season with Liverpool is something else, as I have not been able to figure out what is exactly wrong with Liverpool, they have failed in every angle as we expected in the early hours of the season. If I may ask in this game, who may saw it coming that, Leeds United will definitely come from behind to equalize with Liverpool, no one expected it, but they did. Liverpool team this season is something that one needs to explain something that is basically missing. Right now I don't think it is the tactics of the team, and this is what I have been believing, but right now, it is something else that I don't really know the exact cause.

This crisis is truly devastating. In fact, out of 15 matches, they have lost six and drawn twice. Look at how poor their performance is. In their last five matches, Liverpool have lost twice, drawn twice, and only won once. Their last defeat was an embarrassing defeat against Leeds United.

Liverpool are also experiencing several crises and inconsistencies with some of their players. We've heard various rumors and issues between the manager and Mohamed Salah, as well as the failure of their signing.

[Sir_Garry55]

The crisis this season with Liverpool is something else, as I have not been able to figure out what is exactly wrong with Liverpool, they have failed in every angle as we expected in the early hours of the season. If I may ask in this game, who may saw it coming that, Leeds United will definitely come from behind to equalize with Liverpool, no one expected it, but they did. Liverpool team this season is something that one needs to explain something that is basically missing. Right now I don't think it is the tactics of the team, and this is what I have been believing, but right now, it is something else that I don't really know the exact cause.

This crisis is truly devastating. In fact, out of 15 matches, they have lost six and drawn twice. Look at how poor their performance is. In their last five matches, Liverpool have lost twice, drawn twice, and only won once. Their last defeat was an embarrassing defeat against Leeds United.

Liverpool are also experiencing several crises and inconsistencies with some of their players. We've heard various rumors and issues between the manager and Mohamed Salah, as well as the failure of their signing.

Well, we can see that, matters arises and do feel that more are to come. Liverpool has been outplayed this season, and they are no where to be found. What is exactly the problem of Liverpool, as I may not been able to figure what exactly is the cause to the performance, I wouldn't want to blame the players, rather I may not blame the coach as well, but I believe there are more underlying problems that we have not been able to figure it out. I hope Liverpool should come back to their performance again.

[Smartvirus]

In the end, the conclusion is pretty simple, just look back at last season when Arne Slot continued the squad structure that Klopp had already built, and that’s what brought them success and a title. From that, we can see that Slot became too ambitious by bringing in expensive, top quality players, but he failed to build a solid foundation in terms of the relationship between the coach and the players. On top of that, Slot’s expectations don’t match his actual capability, he signed many good players, but his tactics and strategies don’t really fit them. If this continues, both Liverpool and Arne Slot are going to receive some very harsh criticism.

Klopp is a legend, a season proven manager and in his last days, Slot almost made him feel like he haven’t got it and was running out of what it took to still manage a high profile team like Liverpool, coming into the EPL for the first time and actually win it with a tough performance, that was something over the course of last season.

Now coming into this season and the team has underperformed all season, it opens Slot up on a lot of ways. Liverpool isn’t getting any better but rather worst and if the transfer window haven’t got something good in stock for them, we might be watching them in the conference league.

[EL MOHA]

No, no it's totally wrong. Even if it was not Amorim, i don't think MU can perform better. Amorim's sytem is not entirely wrong. The players also need to be blamed as they don't have quality to blend with Amorim's system, thought some players being bought by Amorim himself.

Don't you aware how lazy their players are? They played too many individualism like they have no chemistry each other. Even if you bring Pep here, but with their current player, i don't think they can perform well.

I am not going to actually argue entirely with you but to be sincere even Ruben Amorim has his own fair share of blame, last season I was giving this same excuse that it was because the players were not of his standard but just this transfer summer Manchester United spent over 200 million on new players and this players were all Amorim A list of players so to me with even this few players we should be a seeing a clear difference with the old Manchester United team and say yes this Amorim new team and they are doing well.

But under him I can say that this players haven’t shown any sign to of any improvement rather they are actually some players whose stats are even worse at this stage of the season than they were before. Not that everyone is against the style of a play but he Ruben Amorim needs to be flexible and not all this rigid with just one formation all the time

[snipie]

I hope Liverpool should come back to their performance again.

Liverpool position is so awkward and the pressures on the coach and the players are intense for sure which is not helping them to progress. Imagine spending a fortune in the summer to move from the first place the last season to the ninth place this one. It is very bad situation and I believe Liverpool will wake after the holidays.
English Premier League standings are weird. Apart from gunners and Manchester City, the other classic teams cannot be seen until Liverpool position. Chelsea could be considered as the exception, yet they are not very successful either..

[Iamgoat]

Mohammed Salah crisis is escalating at Liverpool. He may not be included in Tuesday's Champions League clash at Inter. He may also be absent from the Brighton match the following week. I think Salah's career at Liverpool is over. Maybe they'll sell him in the winter transfer window without waiting until the end of the season. I don't know if any team will want him, of course. He's getting older, far from his former form and his salary is very high. If Arab clubs don't buy him, I don't think other teams will be able to afford him.

Now I believe in the saying everything has a time, I don't believe there will be a time where the Egyptian king who saw Liverpool to two different champions league will be in this mess right now with the team. Mo Salah is currently angry with Liverpool and he even said the club and the coach who is Slots are both treating him badly so he is sitting on the bench even though he still remains their best player. He even went to the level of telling his family to come and watch his last game at Anfield  but I better hope they resolve their differences before then so thy don't mess with the current poor performance of the club, the management should quickly work towards them. If he should leave in January I think it is only clubs in Saudi Pro league can afford his current worth in the market and I'm sure if he's ready to accept their offer, they will seal it.

[GiftedMAN]

I hope Liverpool should come back to their performance again.

Liverpool position is so awkward and the pressures on the coach and the players are intense for sure which is not helping them to progress. Imagine spending a fortune in the summer to move from the first place the last season to the ninth place this one. It is very bad situation and I believe Liverpool will wake after the holidays.
English Premier League standings are weird. Apart from gunners and Manchester City, the other classic teams cannot be seen until Liverpool position. Chelsea could be considered as the exception, yet they are not very successful either..

The position of Liverpool in the league right now will leave the management with no option than to sack the coach and get a replacement for him if he doesn't get good results for them from January, all the money they spent they are not showing anything for it and they stand no chance of winning any trophy this season should they continue getting bad results plus the coach is having a difficult moment with some of his players it will affect the team chances of getting to top 4 next season.

Arsenal and Manchester City may be seen as the two teams that are looking stronger now but you can't underestimate Aston Villa, Sunderland, Chelsea, Crystal Palace and Manchester United the points between them are not much.

[blue Snow]

Arne Slot is still not sacked, okay... Why does Liverpool always have to do this? They are just giving more than enough time. For what? I respect his Premier League trophy last season. But he doesn't have the exact same squad now.

There were changes last summer and it looks like there are still adaptation problems among newcomers. I should add injury problems too. Now there is new crisis related to Salah. I don't see a way out for Slot honestly but let's see if he proves me wrong.

Liverpool has a complicated Issue under the direction of Slot. They not only have a problem with adaptation and coordination, but also with defense, where they can't maintain the lead with a huge difference. So, I think the management doesn't want things to get more complicated when firing him. The management are still giving Slot a chance to fix it immediately after the end of the year. There will be many sacrifices if they fire him, because Liverpool has an expensive squad, which is not easy to manage by an ordinary coach. Liverpool is still exploring who can replace and manage the Galacticos squad.

[harapan]

The crisis this season with Liverpool is something else, as I have not been able to figure out what is exactly wrong with Liverpool, they have failed in every angle as we expected in the early hours of the season. If I may ask in this game, who may saw it coming that, Leeds United will definitely come from behind to equalize with Liverpool, no one expected it, but they did. Liverpool team this season is something that one needs to explain something that is basically missing. Right now I don't think it is the tactics of the team, and this is what I have been believing, but right now, it is something else that I don't really know the exact cause.

This crisis is truly devastating. In fact, out of 15 matches, they have lost six and drawn twice. Look at how poor their performance is. In their last five matches, Liverpool have lost twice, drawn twice, and only won once. Their last defeat was an embarrassing defeat against Leeds United.

Liverpool are also experiencing several crises and inconsistencies with some of their players. We've heard various rumors and issues between the manager and Mohamed Salah, as well as the failure of their signing.

Using Salah as the headline so that they will not bash the manager and the over signed players who have underperformed. It is good to see Salah speaking up for himself. He has helped achieve every trophy for Liverpool over the years.
The manager should be responsible for taking and absorbing all the heat that comes to players but he is busy shying away from it. The next game should be against Inter Milan, we will see if he can correct the errors and lead them to a win.

[OcTradism]

This crisis is truly devastating. In fact, out of 15 matches, they have lost six and drawn twice. Look at how poor their performance is. In their last five matches, Liverpool have lost twice, drawn twice, and only won once. Their last defeat was an embarrassing defeat against Leeds United.

Liverpool are also experiencing several crises and inconsistencies with some of their players. We've heard various rumors and issues between the manager and Mohamed Salah, as well as the failure of their signing.

It is a big crisis among the player Salah, the coach Slot, and also the club Liverpool. Mohamed Salah must be realistic and neutral by looking at his decreasing performance quality for Liverpool since a last half of past season till now. It's very clear that Mohamed Salah no longer plays too well recent months and he needs to recognize it by himself. However both Slot and Liverpool actually cook something behind the scene and they no longer shown support for Salah. This escalates disappointment of Salah and also makes the crisis worse.

Using Salah as the headline so that they will not bash the manager and the over signed players who have underperformed. It is good to see Salah speaking up for himself. He has helped achieve every trophy for Liverpool over the years.
The manager should be responsible for taking and absorbing all the heat that comes to players but he is busy shying away from it. The next game should be against Inter Milan, we will see if he can correct the errors and lead them to a win.

With latest actions of Slot by putting Salah on bench for three consecutive matches and the player's angry sayings about his situation now, it seems Mohamed Salah will find an exit gate in the winter transfer season which will open in coming weeks. Salah might consider to move to La Liga, return to Serie A or explore a new life in Saudi Arabia with very good salary from Saudi Arabian clubs.

[ancafe]

Using Salah as the headline so that they will not bash the manager and the over signed players who have underperformed. It is good to see Salah speaking up for himself. He has helped achieve every trophy for Liverpool over the years.
The manager should be responsible for taking and absorbing all the heat that comes to players but he is busy shying away from it. The next game should be against Inter Milan, we will see if he can correct the errors and lead them to a win.

Salah has become the subject of much discussion for Liverpool's poor performance in recent matches, making him feel the need to speak out. Arne Slot has been inept at Liverpool thus far, and perhaps he should take responsibility for the team's increasingly poor performance. It was also a shame that Salah was not fielded in the match against Leeds, for whatever reason so the match ended in a draw, despite his significant contribution to Liverpool's achievements in previous seasons.

[allthebitandbobs]

The position of Liverpool in the league right now will leave the management with no option than to sack the coach and get a replacement for him if he doesn't get good results for them from January, all the money they spent they are not showing anything for it and they stand no chance of winning any trophy this season should they continue getting bad results plus the coach is having a difficult moment with some of his players it will affect the team chances of getting to top 4 next season.

Arsenal and Manchester City may be seen as the two teams that are looking stronger now but you can't underestimate Aston Villa, Sunderland, Chelsea, Crystal Palace and Manchester United the points between them are not much.

7 points behind from third spotted Aston Villa with having just 7 wins out of 15 games, no one having doubt they are miserable after spending huge amount in last summer, scored 24 goals with miserable attack and worst defense with 24 goals conceded in 15 games.

Many players are not happy just because of this look, like Arne Slot days are numbered, management still giving time because they are not in hurry, and they are also looking for any chance of positive change but in just one or two more games, if they fail, things will be going to be in end level. At the top, now situation is interesting Arsenal, Manchester City and Aston Villa are on same level by having equal chance of staying at the top of the league table while Crystal Palace is amazing in last few matches, this performance bring them to fourth spot as of now.

[DaNNy001]

I hope Liverpool should come back to their performance again.

Liverpool position is so awkward and the pressures on the coach and the players are intense for sure which is not helping them to progress. Imagine spending a fortune in the summer to move from the first place the last season to the ninth place this one. It is very bad situation and I believe Liverpool will wake after the holidays.
English Premier League standings are weird. Apart from gunners and Manchester City, the other classic teams cannot be seen until Liverpool position. Chelsea could be considered as the exception, yet they are not very successful either..

most of the teams that had a good start sre already falling behind, Chelsea is currently at the 5th position and Liverpool on the other hamd are currently struggling and seeing them at the 9th position feels weird...I don't think Liverpool's situation will be fixed this season, from the looks of it they are done for...we can only hope for them to get better next season, it is very unusual for them to be backward