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September 26, 2022, 10:39:26 AM
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For this season, the Bundesliga is no longer boring with several teams starting to show their good performances at the beginning of this season where Bayern Munich, which used to dominate the Bundesliga, has started to decline in consistency. Although that is not the end of Bayern Munich at this point because Bayern Munich still has time to perform well and occupy the top of the Bundesliga standings. But Bayern Munich actually have to fight first to win some games and also beat opponents who are already in the top position at this time.
It would be much more interesting to see not a "competitive" Bundesliga (due to the fact that Bayern fell into a losing streak) but the success of the German teams in the Champions League. At the moment, nothing has changed - Leipzig is in last place in the group with zero points, Bayer shares 2-3 place with Atlético (both teams are 3 points behind Brugge lol), Eintracht shares 2-3 place with Tottenham (3 points behind Sporting), Borussia in a clear second place (3 points behind City). It is very likely that again, apart from Bayern, no one will reach the playoffs or will be destroyed there in the first round.

The Bundesliga is obviously a lot more interesting this season. There is no longer a huge difference between Bayern Munich and its closest rivals in terms of points. The Bayern Munich team is currently ranked 5th in the table and despite the fact that only seven matches have been played so far, I am genuinely starting to believe that the Bundesliga will likely be decided by a different team this time around.

There is no guarantee that Union Berlin will win the Bundesliga, but I think as long as Bayern Munich is not going to be the league winner, the competition is going to be interesting in this league in the future.

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September 26, 2022, 11:25:42 AM
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If I could choose and my choice could happen, then this is the position I want. Seeing the competition in the standings is fun, unlike the previous season we are shown things we have often seen and even seen. We haven't seen a standings like this in a long time, or indeed never at all. Lol
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September 26, 2022, 11:55:48 AM
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The Bundesliga is obviously a lot more interesting this season. There is no longer a huge difference between Bayern Munich and its closest rivals in terms of points. The Bayern Munich team is currently ranked 5th in the table and despite the fact that only seven matches have been played so far, I am genuinely starting to believe that the Bundesliga will likely be decided by a different team this time around.

There is no guarantee that Union Berlin will win the Bundesliga, but I think as long as Bayern Munich is not going to be the league winner, the competition is going to be interesting in this league in the future.

I don't understand how you can call Union Berlin (a team with the lowest budgets of all Bundesliga teams) a serious competitor of FC Bayern. Union will never ever win the Bundesliga this season, I promise you that. If FC Bayern can be stopped, then only by Borussia Dortmund or RB Leipzig. And so far, it looks like only Dortmund is a serious competitor. RB Leipzig has sadly enough problems of its own.

Despite Bayern playing its weakest season in years, none of the Bundesliga "top teams" can put themselves in a promising position. That's worrying and makes me doubt whether any other team than Bayern should really succeed in winning the Bundesliga at the end of the season. But we will see, miracles happen from time to time.

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September 26, 2022, 01:16:29 PM
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I surely agree but even though Bayern Munich is not effective in the Bundesliga they are doing well in the UEFA Championship League, in fact, they are currently at the top of Group C with 2 wins, 0 draws, and 0 losses, I think if this keeps up they can not have a championship for the club, but in term of the Bundesliga championship that will be the problem I don't know if Nagelsmann is focusing more with the UEFA Championship but maybe he's got a plan with the Bundesliga aswell they surely just needs time to prepare,

Obviously, I get the fact that they are performing quite well in the Champions League, however, it is quite concerning that they are not able to perform at the same level in the German league as they do in the Champions League. Basically, they have a problem that they are not able to finish in the D-Box because they don't have enough players for that part. Despite playing well in the group stage of the Champions League, I do believe that their lack of a dynamic striker is going to hurt them more than anything else in the playoffs, which was actually the case for Manchester City in the last Champions League.

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September 26, 2022, 02:57:13 PM
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I surely agree but even though Bayern Munich is not effective in the Bundesliga they are doing well in the UEFA Championship League, in fact, they are currently at the top of Group C with 2 wins, 0 draws, and 0 losses, I think if this keeps up they can not have a championship for the club, but in term of the Bundesliga championship that will be the problem I don't know if Nagelsmann is focusing more with the UEFA Championship but maybe he's got a plan with the Bundesliga aswell they surely just needs time to prepare,

Obviously, I get the fact that they are performing quite well in the Champions League, however, it is quite concerning that they are not able to perform at the same level in the German league as they do in the Champions League. Basically, they have a problem that they are not able to finish in the D-Box because they don't have enough players for that part. Despite playing well in the group stage of the Champions League, I do believe that their lack of a dynamic striker is going to hurt them more than anything else in the playoffs, which was actually the case for Manchester City in the last Champions League.
The Bayern Munich forward is getting a lot of attention right now for not being able to do well in the Bundesliga. But I remain convinced that it is only a matter of time, Mane should be given freedom in my opinion at a time like Liverpool. The reason is now he is only focused on replacing Lewandowski's position and so far it has not gone according to plan. Now Bayern Munich must find a way and solve problems in attack as soon as possible.

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September 26, 2022, 03:28:35 PM
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If I could choose and my choice could happen, then this is the position I want. Seeing the competition in the standings is fun, unlike the previous season we are shown things we have often seen and even seen. We haven't seen a standings like this in a long time, or indeed never at all. Lol
Union Berlin, Borussia Dortmund, Freiburg and Hoffenheim, there is no Bayern Munich name there. Grin

We haven't seen a points table like this in a long time. Every season we are used to seeing Bayern Munich at the top of the table. But this season Bayern Munich is fifth in the points table. They have lost points in their last four matches. It doesn't look like their position will change anytime soon either. However, the Bundesliga is becoming more competitive. Apart from Bayern Munich, other teams are also trying to win the title. And I will be happy if these teams can continue to fight for the title until the end of the season.

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September 26, 2022, 03:35:02 PM
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I don't think that Hoffenheim can maintain their claim for the title until the end of the season. However Freiburg and Dortmund actually can. We saw how great Freiburg were last season. Maybe they missed their chance of ending in top 4 by a small difference but they were consistent most of the time. This time they have a bigger chance for top 4 as it seems.

We shouldn't overlook Union Berlin also of course. But their end might be similar to Hoffenheim also. I think they will also finish under Freiburg and Dortmund both. Bayern Munich's recovery phase will play a huge role in seeing interesting rankings in the league at the end of the season.

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September 26, 2022, 04:01:23 PM
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Despite Bayern playing its weakest season in years, none of the Bundesliga "top teams" can put themselves in a promising position. That's worrying and makes me doubt whether any other team than Bayern should really succeed in winning the Bundesliga at the end of the season. But we will see, miracles happen from time to time.

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i doubt that too. actually, this is/was the best phase, the best time to build up a certain distance to bayern, but even that was not achieved by the clubs you mentioned (bvb, rbl) - so bayern munich is taking a little break from performance and will still be in 1st place again at the end of the season Roll Eyes

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September 26, 2022, 04:36:01 PM
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I don't think that Hoffenheim can maintain their claim for the title until the end of the season. However Freiburg and Dortmund actually can. We saw how great Freiburg were last season. Maybe they missed their chance of ending in top 4 by a small difference but they were consistent most of the time. This time they have a bigger chance for top 4 as it seems.

We shouldn't overlook Union Berlin also of course. But their end might be similar to Hoffenheim also. I think they will also finish under Freiburg and Dortmund both. Bayern Munich's recovery phase will play a huge role in seeing interesting rankings in the league at the end of the season.
True, Freiburg are more trustworthy for their play and consistency. Hoffenheim still had problems at the end of the competition, either because they were complacent or what. Bayern Munich are in fifth place with a difference of only 5 points, it is not too far away.
It's interesting to see how Leverkusen is working now. They are just one notch above the relegation zone, having just one win and a disappointing 4 defeats. In the last three games they can only collect 2 points.

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September 26, 2022, 04:44:24 PM
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It would be much more interesting to see not a "competitive" Bundesliga (due to the fact that Bayern fell into a losing streak) but the success of the German teams in the Champions League. At the moment, nothing has changed - Leipzig is in last place in the group with zero points, Bayer shares 2-3 place with Atlético (both teams are 3 points behind Brugge lol), Eintracht shares 2-3 place with Tottenham (3 points behind Sporting), Borussia in a clear second place (3 points behind City). It is very likely that again, apart from Bayern, no one will reach the playoffs or will be destroyed there in the first round.

The Bundesliga is obviously a lot more interesting this season. There is no longer a huge difference between Bayern Munich and its closest rivals in terms of points. The Bayern Munich team is currently ranked 5th in the table and despite the fact that only seven matches have been played so far, I am genuinely starting to believe that the Bundesliga will likely be decided by a different team this time around.

There is no guarantee that Union Berlin will win the Bundesliga, but I think as long as Bayern Munich is not going to be the league winner, the competition is going to be interesting in this league in the future.

Maybe you are right, in the end it's subjective impressions. But personally, I see everything the same as in previous seasons, but in the face of certain problems in Bayern. I can't say that Union Berlin, Borussia or Freiburg show a super interesting game. Yes, now they have good results, but I do not believe that they will keep this level until the end of the season. And the bookmakers don't believe it either - Bayern's quotes for the title are 1.14 - even the handicap that some clubs now have against Bayern is considered insignificant.

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September 26, 2022, 05:05:11 PM
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I don't think that Hoffenheim can maintain their claim for the title until the end of the season. However Freiburg and Dortmund actually can. We saw how great Freiburg were last season. Maybe they missed their chance of ending in top 4 by a small difference but they were consistent most of the time. This time they have a bigger chance for top 4 as it seems.
We shouldn't overlook Union Berlin also of course. But their end might be similar to Hoffenheim also. I think they will also finish under Freiburg and Dortmund both. Bayern Munich's recovery phase will play a huge role in seeing interesting rankings in the league at the end of the season.
True, Freiburg are more trustworthy for their play and consistency. Hoffenheim still had problems at the end of the competition, either because they were complacent or what. Bayern Munich are in fifth place with a difference of only 5 points, it is not too far away.
It's interesting to see how Leverkusen is working now. They are just one notch above the relegation zone, having just one win and a disappointing 4 defeats. In the last three games they can only collect 2 points.

Freiburg's performance is excellent now. They continue their streak after losing against Dortmund. Freiburg are unbeaten in Bundesliga and Europa League matches. If they are able to continue such consistency, they will be able to strengthen their position in the points table.

I am looking forward to seeing Leverkusen's performance. This team is good enough. But this season Leverkusen's performance is very bad. They are going to face Bayern Munich in the next match. A very strong opponent, at the same time Leverkusen is trying to get back on track. It looks like the match will be competitive and there is a possibility of a draw.

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September 26, 2022, 06:03:48 PM
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While we are waiting patiently for Bundesliga dominance by Bayern to end, there is also France and psg who need to end their dominance of the league. I am not sure that of psg will happen this year or even next season. Because the players at psg are great players which their counterparts don't have.

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Let's take a look at friends. But you have to realize this is only the beginning of the season. The team has only competed 8 or 9 times and there has not been a half of the season. It is too early to shoot that Munich and the League's dominance clubs in Europe will be replaced. A few seasons ago I saw at the beginning there were always new surprises. But the shock couldn't last until the end of the season and they were knocked out of the top flight at the end of the season. The championship team is quite difficult, they should be able to play well throughout the season. Predicting too early at this time is too difficult.
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September 26, 2022, 06:40:13 PM
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Obviously, I get the fact that they are performing quite well in the Champions League, however, it is quite concerning that they are not able to perform at the same level in the German league as they do in the Champions League. Basically, they have a problem that they are not able to finish in the D-Box because they don't have enough players for that part. Despite playing well in the group stage of the Champions League, I do believe that their lack of a dynamic striker is going to hurt them more than anything else in the playoffs, which was actually the case for Manchester City in the last Champions League.

I had the doubt that Manchester City will still have the same problem as the last season, now that they have Erling Halland, but with Bayern Munich, they sure do now, I really don't know if Nagelsmann really have some great plan or idea like an ace up his sleeves if you can call it that, but right now they don't really have a problem at all when it comes to the championship league, but pretty much-having problems with the german league, giving Sadio Mane all the burden will eventually fall down because he is not used with such things,


Maybe you are right, in the end it's subjective impressions. But personally, I see everything the same as in previous seasons, but in the face of certain problems in Bayern. I can't say that Union Berlin, Borussia or Freiburg show a super interesting game. Yes, now they have good results, but I do not believe that they will keep this level until the end of the season. And the bookmakers don't believe it either - Bayern's quotes for the title are 1.14 - even the handicap that some clubs now have against Bayern is considered insignificant.

Many are still believing that Bayern Munich will eventually turn the tables around, despite getting losses from below-the-standing teams, this goes to show that there are still many people not really think that this season will end for Bayern Munich, not a champion, I am truly amazed on people believing that this season will end with Bayern Munich still champion despite having kicked by Augsburg, and getting tied by Union Berlin and Stuttgart,

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September 26, 2022, 07:01:38 PM
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so bayern munich is taking a little break from performance and will still be in 1st place again at the end of the season Roll Eyes
In as much as i don't want this to happen, you may be correct, for another club to win the title, the club has to take every opportunity they get, and what that means is that anytime bayern aren't winning, the team must try to be consistent and win as often as possible so they can stay many points above bayern. But if it happens that even if bayern are poor and drop points, the closest team to them and possible title contenders will also drop points, then since bayern has the stronger team, when the games start coming thick and fast they will surely be in a better position to get more points and win the league.

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September 26, 2022, 07:34:49 PM
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so bayern munich is taking a little break from performance and will still be in 1st place again at the end of the season Roll Eyes
In as much as i don't want this to happen, you may be correct, for another club to win the title, the club has to take every opportunity they get, and what that means is that anytime bayern aren't winning, the team must try to be consistent and win as often as possible so they can stay many points above bayern. But if it happens that even if bayern are poor and drop points, the closest team to them and possible title contenders will also drop points, then since bayern has the stronger team, when the games start coming thick and fast they will surely be in a better position to get more points and win the league.
Which meaaans? Of course when they are in the lower position where they used to be , it is the best time for you to put the money in! As every year the chance for bayern to win the league always high, every single time. The bayern domination is something like a long time culture that needed to break , it takes time.

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September 26, 2022, 08:29:44 PM
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They don't fall behind much but the officials are not too happy with this kind of result because indeed they have been comfortable at the top in previous seasons so losing 1 and drawing 3 in the last 4 matches clearly made them angry.
Even with the actual results still pretty good for still getting points now there's been a lot of rumors about changing coaches.
I think it's just a rumor and they will not replace Julian Nagelsmann because according to the management there is still a chance and they demand Julian Nagelsmann to change the formation and strategy that must be done to get another win because maybe the strategy used is already known to have weak points so that it makes they struggle to get a win.
But indeed, if his performance continues like this, it is not impossible that he will be replaced because now, although it can still be said that it is not so bad, this kind of thing rarely happens to Bayern, so if his performance does not improve, it is not impossible that Tedesco will have friends Grin
Apart from that they need to give Mane a place to run because he is not very suitable as a centre-forward.

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September 26, 2022, 08:40:16 PM
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Bundesliga will resume this weekend. We have Bayern to win vs Leverkusen, otherwise it will be very awkward situation.
Dortmund will face Koln with interesting odds 2 vs 3.3. A draw will be appreciated too so Bayern can get closer to the first place Tongue
Union has lower odds than Frankfurt! 3.3 Union vs 2.2 Frankfurt. Not sure if this is an opportunity to x3 the money or a trap?
Bremen and M'Gladbach have very close odds around 2.5 which is attractive and risky at the same time.

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Bundesliga will resume this weekend. We have Bayern to win vs Leverkusen, otherwise it will be very awkward situation.
Dortmund will face Koln with interesting odds 2 vs 3.3. A draw will be appreciated too so Bayern can get closer to the first place Tongue
Union has lower odds than Frankfurt! 3.3 Union vs 2.2 Frankfurt. Not sure if this is an opportunity to x3 the money or a trap?
Bremen and M'Gladbach have very close odds around 2.5 which is attractive and risky at the same time.

It won't be nice if Bayern Munich give Leverkusen the opportunity to win. If Leverkusen win Bayern Munich I think fans will be disappointed in Bayern Munich for them to still continue in their weak performance.

I still believe Dortmund will defeat Koln.

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It won't be nice if Bayern Munich give Leverkusen the opportunity to win. If Leverkusen win Bayern Munich I think fans will be disappointed in Bayern Munich for them to still continue in their weak performance.

I still believe Dortmund will defeat Koln.

Bayern München will play on Friday after international break. Will this have a negative effect on them? I think Bayern will win no matter what because Bayer Leverkusen is in a very bad shape this season. Normally, they were a team that pushed Bayern, but with this form, it's very difficult for them to get points from the match. Very low odds for Bayern München win though, it might be better to play over 2.5 goals bet.

It's unclear what Borussia Dortmund will do against Köln. They are favorites in the match, but they are playing a difficult away game and they still have striker problems, Haller is still unavailable. Still, a high odds bet on a Dortmund win can be tried. But I would say don't trust them too much.

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Yes, this is an unusual season and there is a possibility that we will see some unexpected champions in the European championships - for example Roma or Udinese in Italy  Grin But I doubt that this is possible in the Bundesliga. No matter how bad Bayern play, all competitors will play even worse and less consistently. In some segments they can show good results, but in general they are untenable.

We can also see a different situation in the Bundesliga and right now Union Berlin is making a progress, but I think we are still starting and in the early stage of the season so there could be a shift of pace between every team, but comparing the team play right now we can not see an elaborate consistency right now because some teams are just adjusting with the said changes,


There are reasons for and against your argument. Bayern scored 19 goals in 7 games, which is the top rank in the Bundesliga. I don't know whether it is just a striker who is missing right now. They aren't create enough when they come close to the box. Now they have so many agile players that it is shocking how they lack ideas to crack the opponents' defense.

When you say that Bayern has no problem with their defense, I am not so sure about that. It is not a bad defense, but they are not as solid as they used to be in some of the past seasons. The opponents know that Bayern is making mistakes at times and if you then defend solidly against Bayern and have that one lucky shot (like Augsburg), you can take it home against them.

Bayern gets under pressure when they don't score early. They need to fix that and not lose patience when a game has 90 minutes.

The man Lewandowski is sure a tough guy to not be pressured by every game in the Bundesliga but in my opinion, Lewandowski have left a big hole for the team, I really think that Nagelsmann's strategy was all pertaining for Lewandowski, and not compatible with the previous team now, that is why there are so many mistakes and Sadio Mane is still coping up to all of that change because he  has a different position now than he usually have on his previous team there is a lot of pressure for each player for the Bayern Munich, that surely see a big mistakes with their play,



I really don't doubt that Sadio Mane is a world class player, but when I heard about the successful transfer from Liverpool to Bayern, I instantly asked myself the question whether Mane can perform the same way for Bayern as he did for Liverpool. Sometimes a player fits perfectly into a certain system or put differently, builds an integral part of that system, and also perfectly harmonizes with the team mates, especially the offensive ones.

Now is Mane the right fit for the offensive style of Bayern compared to Liverpool? I doubt it. Mane's role was a significant one in Liverpool in particular for Salah, Mane understands to create space and attract defensive players of the opponent in order to create chances for Salah.

That is why I think he isn't a "substitute" for Lewandowski at all. Contrary to what many might have expected from him, I thought Mane would have been the perfect addition FOR Lewandowski's style. Mane and Lewandowski would have worked out very well I believe. Now there is no player with the absolute killer instinct who could benefit from Mane's style. This might indeed turn into kind of a deadlock for Bayern when it comes to their offensive effectiveness.

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