Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[herurist]

according to german kicker, Ko Itakura's move to borussia mönchengladbach is now official. the flexible defensive player joins 'die fohlen' from manchester city, although the japanese player spent last season with schalke 04 in the 2nd bundesliga, where he was considered one of the best players. Ko Itakura has a contract until summer 2026 with borussia, who will transfer €5 million to the skyblues

True, his skills are above average in my opinion and indeed he is a defender who is quite flexible and can be placed in a defender position or indeed as a defensive midfielder there.
The performance is actually still quite good and it's clear that Gladbach have got players who can keep their guard up for next season because they are really struggling with that which makes this a good thing for Gladbach.

[Fakhrulenclix]

I don’t think Dortmund is ever worried too loser players. All they ever do is build up young players from the scrap and make them world-class and then sell those players to competitive clubs. So, if there are any teams that actually have some worry to lose a player I believe Dortmund will be the bottom team among them. But the policy of this team is they sell players and make a profit. After that, they raise some more players and sell them for some more profit. In recent times I have not seen any player being excited to play in Dortmund except for Marco Reus, he was in Dortmund for a long time. Other than that any player who they have produced was really eager to get out of the team.

Seems like they didn't think about the title of champion, so they create a human and sell it on the market, and they are very comfortable with this because have done it for too many years with high profit, and I admit they did it with perfect but still, this is football (sport) where the champions and title are no.1 beside the money if they don't change the perspective, they will be lost fans and tribune supporter.

they have been doing it for a long time but that way they can still be consistent at the top of the Bundesliga standings even though they can't win the title, because Bayern are very difficult to compete with.
Dortmund is always able to give birth to new football stars and it can't be separated from their solid squad which combines young and senior players so that their young players can develop.
and football is not just an achievement because it has entered the realm of business where every club wants to make a profit and Dortmund are taking big profits in their own way.

[xzone]

Dortmund aren't worried at all about losing their best players currently. Of course it would be a big hit to them if they lose nearly all of their skilled players. However this is already a thing they have been doing for a long time. When they sold Erling Haaland they even stated that they weren't worried about this agreement too much. Because they were already used to playing without Haaland before and they believed they could do the same again after this deal happened. This will go on for Dortmund like this.

In fact, the success of good teams does not depend on the performance of just a few players. So it's good that Dortmund isn't too worried either. But if they want to achieve success both in the league and in other cups, they need to strengthen their squad.
It will be difficult for them to be as successful as before after their best players leave the team

[wiss19]

We wont see a destruction in Bayern Munich . From my side i think they will win the title again and by a difference of 8+ points for sure. Bayern Munich gets star players every season and has a superb team every year while Dortmund sells their superstars and honestly they will fight for top 4 positions this year and not the title

From the last few seasons, they seem to be running on their own and there are no significant obstacles from other clubs to become champions in the Bundesliga.
Their dominance is too extraordinary which makes them difficult to match and I quite agree with what you say about the difference because surely the difference in points will be much different.
Bayern are already champions it seems even though the Bundesliga hasn't restarted yet.

In last few years no German club able to challenge them for title with this now we all know nothing special going to happen in next season as well because quality difference is having big impact. Even in Champions League, mostly bookmakers give them favorite tag, or mostly they keep them in top four because of their quality.

If I am no wrong they never lost in early rounds mostly they knocked out in quarterfinal or knock out stage which mean they are top quality club in Europe as well they have the best resources and best financial system in soccer world which is helping them for staying here at top level.

Now as we are watching Robert Lewandowski is trying to leave, they already have their backup for this position which is going to improve their quality.

[Fesatmas]

Dortmund aren't worried at all about losing their best players currently. Of course it would be a big hit to them if they lose nearly all of their skilled players. However this is already a thing they have been doing for a long time. When they sold Erling Haaland they even stated that they weren't worried about this agreement too much. Because they were already used to playing without Haaland before and they believed they could do the same again after this deal happened. This will go on for Dortmund like this.

In fact, the success of good teams does not depend on the performance of just a few players. So it's good that Dortmund isn't too worried either. But if they want to achieve success both in the league and in other cups, they need to strengthen their squad.
It will be difficult for them to be as successful as before after their best players leave the team

Borussia Dortmund are used to letting go of their star players, this is not the first time they have done the same. They have experience in this so I'm pretty sure they don't worry when they lose a star player. What I look forward to is the star players who are born from this team as they have always been.

[Bobrox]

In last few years no German club able to challenge them for title with this now we all know nothing special going to happen in next season as well because quality difference is having big impact. Even in Champions League, mostly bookmakers give them favorite tag, or mostly they keep them in top four because of their quality.

Last time Bundesliga team dominance on UEFA Champion League last two years when Bayern Munich success defeated PSG on final, but two years later Bundesliga team looks not strong on Champion League and faced difficulty on group stage like Dortmund and quarter final for Bayern Munich after eliminating by Villareal. I think with 5 team participant on UEFA Champion League from Bundesliga exactly they have chance could reach until semifinal or have chance with Bayern Munich can back to final stage again, but not easy all Champion League team right now most competitive.

[lulumiya]

Dortmund are one of the teams that like to sign and grow young and talented players. They are like a steppingstone for that kind of players. Erling Haaland was one of them for example. He wasn't known much by people before but things changed a lot after joining Dortmund. It is going to continue to be the same for very talented players like him. Dortmund's main goal must be this because of that. If they aimed the Bundesliga championship first then they would build a squad according to it.

In fact, Borussia Dortmund's vision is very good, they are successful in creating quality players. But how good their ability to create quality players is coupled with achievements, it will be something very extraordinary. It's just that until now I haven't seen that they will do that (achievement). It's a shame when their abilities are not put to good use.

About that, do you remember their 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 seasons in the Bundesliga? They were just wonderful back then and became the champions in both seasons comfortably. However everything started with Lewandowski's being sent from the team. After that we never saw them becoming the champions again. Maybe their main focus might not be the Bundesliga championship like I assumed but they would feel really great if they make it to the title after long years.

[bering]

In last few years no German club able to challenge them for title with this now we all know nothing special going to happen in next season as well because quality difference is having big impact. Even in Champions League, mostly bookmakers give them favorite tag, or mostly they keep them in top four because of their quality.

Last time Bundesliga team dominance on UEFA Champion League last two years when Bayern Munich success defeated PSG on final, but two years later Bundesliga team looks not strong on Champion League and faced difficulty on group stage like Dortmund and quarter final for Bayern Munich after eliminating by Villareal. I think with 5 team participant on UEFA Champion League from Bundesliga exactly they have chance could reach until semifinal or have chance with Bayern Munich can back to final stage again, but not easy all Champion League team right now most competitive.

This year slightly different for champion league because Bundesliga send 5 contestants to playing at that competition but i think it is difficult to bundesliga teams can reach to semifinal matches for champion league unless Bayern Munich but for other teams such as Dortmund, Leverkusen, Frankfurt or Leipzig i think they still consider as underdog teams and so far strong contender for champion league title from bundesliga is only Bayern Munich but for other teams i think they will hard struggle and maybe some of them will ended at group stage only

[Lordhermes]

Dortmund's sale of Haaland is definitely going to affect them this season,and it might cost them their top four race next season.Haaland was the only person that defined their season with the number of goals he scored couple with the assists he got,and Dortmund decided to let him go to Manchester city. They will be in search for a player that can replace Haaland at the club,but I doubt if they will be able to see such a player in today's market.Haaland has moved to the premier league,but he doesn't know that England is the toughest league ever,He can be very good at Lalliga,but English premier league is so hard that scoring goals will be a problem the moment those defenders understand your pattern of play and how you score goals.Nevertheless,let's wait to see whether his move to premier league will be a success or a failure.

[KTChampions]

Yes, I don’t understand this strategy either - it would seem that they can not only earn money, but also fight for titles and more earnings from Eurocups, that is, keep good players and earn money (Bavaria model). But they are satisfied with just making money and with a stunted performance in Europe and the inability to fight Bayern for the title.

I would say Dortmund should fight for the title. Almost every season we see them making star players. But they can't win the title. I would say Dortmund management should form a strong team and fight for the title. And the destruction of Bayern Munich's reign in the Bundesliga. I'm tired of watching Bayern Munich win titles every season.

Everyone is tired, but as I already wrote, the problem is not in Bavaria. If Dortmund performed well in European competition (on a par with Bayern), then one could be upset about Bayern's hegemony in the domestic championship, but Dortmund is bad there and there. It is obvious that Dortmund must progress in this situation and not Bayern degrade in order for us to see a quality competitive league.

[omgitsmehehe]

Yes, I don’t understand this strategy either - it would seem that they can not only earn money, but also fight for titles and more earnings from Eurocups, that is, keep good players and earn money (Bavaria model). But they are satisfied with just making money and with a stunted performance in Europe and the inability to fight Bayern for the title.

I would say Dortmund should fight for the title. Almost every season we see them making star players. But they can't win the title. I would say Dortmund management should form a strong team and fight for the title. And the destruction of Bayern Munich's reign in the Bundesliga. I'm tired of watching Bayern Munich win titles every season.

Everyone is tired, but as I already wrote, the problem is not in Bavaria. If Dortmund performed well in European competition (on a par with Bayern), then one could be upset about Bayern's hegemony in the domestic championship, but Dortmund is bad there and there. It is obvious that Dortmund must progress in this situation and not Bayern degrade in order for us to see a quality competitive league.

Dortmund problem is not only the players, the most error comes from the management, my reason behind this, is because they don't know how to maintain player. it's truth cause the club look's more of a business club to me, they only train players to sell, they can't maintain there players and that's the more reason they can't compete with bayern. the team management need to work on the way they sell their players, cause for the past ten years now, Dortmund has produce so many best players but they don't keep them, they only sell them for a high amount of money and that's the reason why they can't win the title, if they really want to win the title they need to decrease their rate of selling players.

[Tumanggor]

Dortmund aren't worried at all about losing their best players currently. Of course it would be a big hit to them if they lose nearly all of their skilled players. However this is already a thing they have been doing for a long time. When they sold Erling Haaland they even stated that they weren't worried about this agreement too much. Because they were already used to playing without Haaland before and they believed they could do the same again after this deal happened. This will go on for Dortmund like this.

In fact, the success of good teams does not depend on the performance of just a few players. So it's good that Dortmund isn't too worried either. But if they want to achieve success both in the league and in other cups, they need to strengthen their squad.
It will be difficult for them to be as successful as before after their best players leave the team

i see dortmund is a team that saw that success by buying cheap players and then developing them and then selling the players at a high price (not with league trophies) LOL

After getting a big profit from the sale of Haaland, Dortmund also set Bellingham prices at a high price too (120 million euros). this further confirms that dortmund don't have big intentions for the trophy, they just want money

[Smack That Ace]

We wont see a destruction in Bayern Munich . From my side i think they will win the title again and by a difference of 8+ points for sure. Bayern Munich gets star players every season and has a superb team every year while Dortmund sells their superstars and honestly they will fight for top 4 positions this year and not the title

From the last few seasons, they seem to be running on their own and there are no significant obstacles from other clubs to become champions in the Bundesliga.
Their dominance is too extraordinary which makes them difficult to match and I quite agree with what you say about the difference because surely the difference in points will be much different.
Bayern are already champions it seems even though the Bundesliga hasn't restarted yet.

In last few years no German club able to challenge them for title with this now we all know nothing special going to happen in next season as well because quality difference is having big impact. Even in Champions League, mostly bookmakers give them favorite tag, or mostly they keep them in top four because of their quality.

If I am no wrong they never lost in early rounds mostly they knocked out in quarterfinal or knock out stage which mean they are top quality club in Europe as well they have the best resources and best financial system in soccer world which is helping them for staying here at top level.

Now as we are watching Robert Lewandowski is trying to leave, they already have their backup for this position which is going to improve their quality.

Honestly, if anyone thinks that there is a competition for Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga they are absolutely wrong. There is no actual competition for Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga and Bayern Munich are abusing that very much and winning the League title almost every year for a long time right now. 

They are also going to win that League title next season as well. And a lot of people are thinking if Robert Lewandowski leaves Bayern Munich it is going to make them weaker but they already have their substitute fielder ready for Robert Lewandowski if he actually ends up leaving the club.



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Duke

[hashrateproducts]

Dortmund's sale of Haaland is definitely going to affect them this season,and it might cost them their top four race next season.Haaland was the only person that defined their season with the number of goals he scored couple with the assists he got,and Dortmund decided to let him go to Manchester city. They will be in search for a player that can replace Haaland at the club,but I doubt if they will be able to see such a player in today's market.Haaland has moved to the premier league,but he doesn't know that England is the toughest league ever,He can be very good at Lalliga,but English premier league is so hard that scoring goals will be a problem the moment those defenders understand your pattern of play and how you score goals.Nevertheless,let's wait to see whether his move to premier league will be a success or a failure.

Erling Haaland absence in the team will be felt for time but won't take much time, when Dortmund will bounce back to their stand. Moreover, it's not their first time selling one of their best player, they have sold tight and good players in the past, and still yet. They stand strong, they are among of the team in the world that's very good with developing keyplayers in football and they always sell these players which they have built over the years. Haaland moving to England will be difficult for him at first, but with constant games, he will understand the English pattern of games.

[jostorres]

This year slightly different for champion league because Bundesliga send 5 contestants to playing at that competition but i think it is difficult to bundesliga teams can reach to semifinal matches for champion league unless Bayern Munich but for other teams such as Dortmund, Leverkusen, Frankfurt or Leipzig i think they still consider as underdog teams and so far strong contender for champion league title from bundesliga is only Bayern Munich but for other teams i think they will hard struggle and maybe some of them will ended at group stage only

Even Bundesliga having five teams in Champions League but still it's not going to have any big impact because we all know just two teams are capable of having some quality players, and they can go through until quarterfinal or semifinal spot for Bayern Munich all others are going to be knocked out from first round because their quality is not enough for competition with teams from England, Italy and Spain because these teams are having not enough funds or these are not interested to invest for some quality players which can give them better results.

Just Bayern Munich is doing much better for giving them tough challenge, but they are also having some wired issues in last few years which need to settle if they want to win Champions League.

[terrorJR]

Everyone is tired, but as I already wrote, the problem is not in Bavaria. If Dortmund performed well in European competition (on a par with Bayern), then one could be upset about Bayern's hegemony in the domestic championship, but Dortmund is bad there and there. It is obvious that Dortmund must progress in this situation and not Bayern degrade in order for us to see a quality competitive league.

They lost financially and they also lost on a player basis which makes this seem like a big difference.
It's true that Dortmund have had quite good players every season but still they will lose because Bayern are much better and more prepared.
Bayern's hegemony no matter what will remain and they will still be champions forever if Dortmund don't make improvements there because right now only Dortmund is the closest compared to other clubs.

[wiss19]

i see dortmund is a team that saw that success by buying cheap players and then developing them and then selling the players at a high price (not with league trophies) LOL

After getting a big profit from the sale of Haaland, Dortmund also set Bellingham prices at a high price too (120 million euros). this further confirms that dortmund don't have big intentions for the trophy, they just want money

We all know Borussia Dortmund management never been in favor of winning trophies because they feel this all few years back buying low price youths and giving them some chance in Bundesliga then selling on high price is real big deal, so they are enjoying this all for many years just because of them Bayern Munich is able to win many trophies, and they never look into this.

We already have very long list of players those were established here and then shine in many other European clubs with most recent we have Haaland and now coming star is Bellingham which is in contract with them for five years with transfer clause having big amount and now Real Madrid and Liverpool both are already interested in this wonder kid.

[Pulsar77]

Bayern Munich have become the winners of the Bundesliga title for ten seasons in a row. Dortmund are obviously seeming like they have accepted the current situation of the league already. The only way they can win the league title from now on could be seeing Bayern Munich having a worse season. Even then I will still doubt Dortmund but at least we would watch a real competition for the title. The Bundesliga isn't attracting to me when it comes to a title fight as there hasn't been any for a long time.

[Avirunes]

Bayern Munich have become the winners of the Bundesliga title for ten seasons in a row. Dortmund are obviously seeming like they have accepted the current situation of the league already. The only way they can win the league title from now on could be seeing Bayern Munich having a worse season. Even then I will still doubt Dortmund but at least we would watch a real competition for the title. The Bundesliga isn't attracting to me when it comes to a title fight as there hasn't been any for a long time.

We might be able to see some competition if Lewandowski moves but as long as he is there Bayern are gonna win matches and show their dominance. With Haaland's departure, Dortmund might find trouble scoring so that's also gonna put things towards Bayern's favour. Lewandowski's contract is about to end next year so maybe next season we can find Bayern hobbling another team chiming in strong for the title race but as for now feels like it will be same Bayern story again.

[sana54210]

In fact, the success of good teams does not depend on the performance of just a few players. So it's good that Dortmund isn't too worried either. But if they want to achieve success both in the league and in other cups, they need to strengthen their squad.
It will be difficult for them to be as successful as before after their best players leave the team

i see dortmund is a team that saw that success by buying cheap players and then developing them and then selling the players at a high price (not with league trophies) LOL

After getting a big profit from the sale of Haaland, Dortmund also set Bellingham prices at a high price too (120 million euros). this further confirms that dortmund don't have big intentions for the trophy, they just want money

You and I have very different understanding of "success". If we were to talk about finances I am sure that Dortmund made a good chunk of money in the last two years and I am expecting them to make some more in the near future as well. However, we are forgetting the fact that Dortmund is not spending that money, which is weird I know but did they get any superstars to their team with how much money they made? Of course not.

This is their problem, they are not getting any better. They get young players, improve them, sell them, make a bunch of profit and repeat this again and again. This is why I doubt that they would ever become a team that could win a championship with this method.