3rd World War

[pokeviktor]

Welcome to the 3th World War.

Yes, that sounds pretty scary (or crazy) but is the reality.

Last finantial and economic crisis was pretty hard, but US government got the solution: this crisis afects specially to hard west finantial zone (US and UE) and they use their influence in all his allies -you know, they got the power- to obligate to make them all changes to prevent a finantial capitalist collapse (in other words, a final Dollar default). What they do? Only check all new economic and social politics in Japan, all UE members, Syria, Uckraine, Russia, Irak, Iran and other Middle East countries... They all move on with the final function of keep Dollar and US Markets on best position possible, while US continue his expansionist model of capitalism -using Euro and Yen to their interests-. That all works very well for west Markets... until now.

All that movements, specially the Dollar and Euro devaluation in front of Yuan using Yen as last chance, create a new position on global economy, and that's the situation we are living now:

This time, is China who got a finantial crisis, and that's because his potential rivals (US and UE) were using his emergent situation to invest in east Markets and now, with Dollar and Euro very cheap in relation, they're returning their investions to their own Markets. What they do? A triple devaluation of Yuan and injections of liquidity on Chinese Banks in few weeks... but that doesn't works, Markets continue falling and seems they should make more changes, affecting to all other World Markets -with first devaluation all Markets began an inestability-. In future facts, economic specialist pedicts on 2016 a lowest increment of their GDP and that doesn't sound very good, a desacceleration will cost them another future settings, independent on what's happening right now. These all movements and predictions dislikes specially on US.

What's the real problem? China could need a new devaluation of Yuan if his Markets doesn't react to new liquidity injection, and if this happens will began a real Finantial and Economic World Crisis, because this time who should make movements is China and that, fo sure, will not like to US, who sure will make new politics to prevent an own default.

In that point, I want to say I know I've not spoken about petrol and what happened to Ruble in last 2 years, but is in all of that...

Now we are on a foreign exchange war, that's pretty obvious, and I think Dollar and Yuan will not arrive to a dual beneficial position in near future. That will began a Finantial Global Crisis, never seen before, and that conduct it all to an Economic World War, and after an inevitable real World War.

We'll see rockets falling in our countries? Hope not, but we don't know what are they going to do.

As I said before, only a good reaction to new liquidity injection from Chinese Government in Chinese Markets will stop that free fall, but check it this link before now:

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/shcomp?countrycode=cn

+0.53% at opening today, that seems so good enough? I don't think so... It should be going over +5% in normal situation at opening and about +10% at half session.

In few weeks/months we all began to feel that situation, politics will change worldwide.

That should be good for BTC? I don't know, but in my opinion that will give to BTC a new chance to go really up and overcome best prize ever or directly his exctintion, only that two ways I see right now.

Good luck to all.

[afbitcoins]

There is an economic war for sure. I've heard some interesting theories about the explosions in China as retaliation for currency devaluations ..

The US dollar is well past its sell by date, other countries are beginning to move away. But dollar won't go without a fight.

[madjules007]

That should be good for BTC? I don't know, but in my opinion that will give to BTC a new chance to go really up and overcome best prize ever or directly his exctintion, only that two ways I see right now.

Good luck to all.

I would say that such a situation would be crushing for bitcoin. In economic crisis, money flows to safety. Bitcoin is a newfangled and little-tested technology with a penny stock market cap. Why would money flow into bitcoin under these circumstances? Hopefully years (probably decades) into the future, bitcoin may be viewed as a more resilient store of value. But for institutional or average retail investors, why would they view it as such now?

[gentlemand]

I would say that such a situation would be crushing for bitcoin. In economic crisis, money flows to safety. Bitcoin is a newfangled and little-tested technology with a penny stock market cap. Why would money flow into bitcoin under these circumstances? Hopefully years (probably decades) into the future, bitcoin may be viewed as a more resilient store of value. But for institutional or average retail investors, why would they view it as such now?

Agreed. It's something you have a dabble in once you have all your other bases covered. As soon as everything else starts to look a little shaky it'll be the first thing to go.

[Racey]

World War II ended the "depression." The same Bankers who in the early 1930's had no loans for peacetime houses, food and clothing, suddenly had unlimited billions to lend for army barracks, K-rations and uniforms.

A nation that in 1934 could not produce food for sale, suddenly could produce bombs to send free to Germany and Japan!

Some politicians were blamed for it and others took credit for ending it. The truth is the lack of money (caused by Bankers) brought on the depression, and adequate money ended it. The people were never told that simple truth and in this article we will endeavor to show how these same bankers who control our money and credit have used their control to plunder America and place us in bondage.

No Money for Peace, but Plenty for War

I say the very same situation back then, is a mirror image of todays current markets crisis.

They love war at the expense of us, we are expendable.
Why do we put up with these greedy mofos?

Also read: Manipulating Stocks for Fun and Profit

[madjules007]

They love war at the expense of us, we are expendable.
Why do we put up with these greedy mofos?

In a nutshell, that is human history in its entirety. Most intelligent people I know acknowledge these realities. But middle classers are fighting to cling onto their disappearing social status. And when most people are in poverty and still struggling to survive, it's a bit tough to spend energy fighting the man. To make things more complex, those that do theorize on how to end this bondage have great disagreement as to the solutions to the current nation-state-capitalist system. Such is life.

[Monopoly]

WHole worth of bitcoin market is very very very very very very very very LOw .

The total market value does not answer a million hungry people for 1 month ...........

[talks_cheep]

OMG!

Such drama, over nothing.

[Pab]

War3,could be,water crisis and food crisis,now in my country is unnormous hot no rain from month,rivers are dry  and will be more dry days  .Disastear.Same is in all South Spain.That is serious becous there are estimates that next year could be the same.Imagine  if will be no monsun rain in Asia,same disastear in China,Imagine time what water price will meet oil price,lets say 10$ per barrel

All that economic chaos it is change,change from industrial era to technology era.That world cant live like it is living now,corporations ,debt economy is dead,change has to come now change is coming through destroying,it is better if it is goes on markets instead on streets

[altcoinUK]

Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).

[jaredboice]

Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).

Totalitarian Governments haven't been able to stop the internet.  They can't even stop peer-to-peer file sharing.  What makes you think they will stop peer-to-peer money that doesn't need them for anything?

[oblivi]

Well I hope you are wrong, but the thing is the economy is on a dead end. If the interest rates go to 0%, the investors will move all of their money to another place = game over. And at the same time if the interest rates are kept those who are under debt will never be able to pay which gives you a worldwide crash, again game over. So as you can see, there is no real solution. The good news tho, is alternative system like Bitcoin would benefit a lot from this, so would in theory gold and silver. I just hope it doesn't take WW3 for that to happen. What would be the point of being rich in a destroyed world anyway.

[BTChaintrader]

Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).

Are you sure about Armstrong? If it's true, he could make BILLIONS of dollars profit.

I don't thing he is a billionaire, so why didn't he place his bet in the market and made a lot of money by predicting all these crisis?

[Hunyadi]

Martin Armstrong sure has a lot of nuthuggers here 

[MF Doom]

Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).

Are you sure about Armstrong? If it's true, he could make BILLIONS of dollars profit.

I don't thing he is a billionaire, so why didn't he place his bet in the market and made a lot of money by predicting all these crisis?

he has said his computer model system has taken 100's of millions of $ to put together.  Whether he is counting his time/labor into that equation I don't know, but still I would think that would be minor to 100's of millions of $.  So maybe he is not a billionaire, but based on his acute market knowledge & forecasting, you gotta think he's worth a pretty penny.

[altcoinUK]

Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).

Are you sure about Armstrong? If it's true, he could make BILLIONS of dollars profit.

I don't thing he is a billionaire, so why didn't he place his bet in the market and made a lot of money by predicting all these crisis?

No, he is not a billionaire, but of course he made billions of dollars profit. This is a well known fact and he was a very well known fund manager.

He has placed many bets and he was running a multi billion dollar fund, he advised the IMF, banks, prime ministers, etc. More importantly his clients has been making millions and billions based on his advices for example in the 2007 crisis. There are records with names and events about it. Watch the documentary about him (The Forecaster) and you can hear there how people has been making money since 1980 using his service.

The problem is that not easy to translate Armstrong's predictions to stock exchange trades. Yes, sometimes he say a specific day like in 1987 and then you can short everything, but most of the times he predict trends (like in October 2015 will be the start of confidence decline or he said well before that in 1997 will be the Russian crisis), and even if the trend kicks off according to his prediction there could be lots of volatility on the market, and ups and downs until the events is fully unfold, so it doesn't mean inexperienced traders can make money based on his predictions.

[altcoinUK]

Martin Armstrong sure has a lot of nuthuggers here  

If would be a few in Hungary as well then your place would be in a lot better shape.

[altcoinUK]

Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).

Are you sure about Armstrong? If it's true, he could make BILLIONS of dollars profit.

I don't thing he is a billionaire, so why didn't he place his bet in the market and made a lot of money by predicting all these crisis?

he has said his computer model system has taken 100's of millions of $ to put together.  Whether he is counting his time/labor into that equation I don't know, but still I would think that would be minor to 100's of millions of $.  So maybe he is not a billionaire, but based on his acute market knowledge & forecasting, you gotta think he's worth a pretty penny.

I think what he said was that today would cost 100 million $ to put together such data set what he has as the result of his 30 days of research and analysing historical data. But yes, I agree what you said and that his  company will be very valuable once he release his Socrates system/service.

[BTChaintrader]

No, he is not a billionaire, but of course he made billions of dollars profit. This is a well known fact and he was a very well known fund manager.

He has placed many bets and he was running a multi billion dollar fund, he advised the IMF, banks, prime ministers, etc. More importantly his clients has been making millions and billions based on his advices for example in the 2007 crisis. There are records with names and events about it. Watch the documentary about him (The Forecaster) and you can hear there how people has been making money since 1980 using his service.

The problem is that not easy to translate Armstrong's predictions to stock exchange trades. Yes, sometimes he say a specific day like in 1987 and then you can short everything, but most of the times he predict trends (like in October 2015 will be the start of confidence decline or he said well before that in 1997 will be the Russian crisis), and even if the trend kicks off according to his prediction there could be lots of volatility on the market, and ups and downs until the events is fully unfold, so it doesn't mean inexpedience traders can make money based on his predictions.

I will make sure to watch the documentary!

I've just read about his October prediction and I believe that there is a possibility for that. I don't know why he doesn't talk about China though.

I get that if Europe starts collapsing and Japan follows them, the money can start flowing to USA, but where is China in the picture?

[altcoinUK]

Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).

Totalitarian Governments haven't been able to stop the internet.  They can't even stop peer-to-peer file sharing.  What makes you think they will stop peer-to-peer money that doesn't need them for anything?

Well it's very simple and quite clear: since digital currency is suitable to hide tax as well as store value, once the money start flowing from the bond and equity markets to private assets  (during the next crisis) then governments will immediately need to control digital currencies. That's how governments work, that's how they work in the 21st century and most importantly that's how they work when there is a crisis.

Of course they can stop peer to peer file sharing any time they want, and they will stop it once the crisis kick off and the corrupt, paranoid governments want to control everything. They will prosecute everyone who don't comply with laws and regulations and use applications that challenge the governments' total control. It's unfair, unjust and shouldn't be like that, but that will be the only way the governments can manage the crisis.

It is a permanent fight between us - who cherish  technological, economic and political freedom - and the government, but in this fight in short term the government win. We use I2P, tor, lately ham radio based mesh network to form a dark net and all kind these innovative systems, but the government can shut them down any time they want. You should know that if you know how the internet and more importantly how government works. ISPs and citizens will be under 100% state control, and once it will be crime to use these applications then the government will enforce those laws.