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January 12, 2017, 05:48:21 PM
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A necro post in a gambling discussion? I thought this would be a copy-paste and sure enough Google agreed.
There was a post by jt byte in the same thread.
The original post is there in Google Cache and has been deleted.
My hypothesis - apriloni is an alt of jt byte and is deleting posts in 1 profile and posting it in the other.  Tongue

So does it mean that my hypothesis of users deleting their old posts and submitting them again got finally confirmed?

Kind of. But this wasn't a newbie deleting old posts and another newbie posting them.
The original post was by a Hero member. I guess the account must have been banned if the user didn't mind deleting the posts.

Are banned users allowed to delete their posts?

I understand that it was a Hero member, but couldn't the same be done by lower ranks too, especially if they get banned (provided they can delete their posts, of course)? Also, if they have enough posts, their activity shouldn't go down as long as the number of posts matches (or exceeds) the required minimum for their rank. So there is at least one reason for doing that, right?

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January 12, 2017, 05:57:54 PM
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A necro post in a gambling discussion? I thought this would be a copy-paste and sure enough Google agreed.
There was a post by jt byte in the same thread.
The original post is there in Google Cache and has been deleted.
My hypothesis - apriloni is an alt of jt byte and is deleting posts in 1 profile and posting it in the other.  Tongue

So does it mean that my hypothesis of users deleting their old posts and submitting them again got finally confirmed?

Kind of. But this wasn't a newbie deleting old posts and another newbie posting them.
The original post was by a Hero member. I guess the account must have been banned if the user didn't mind deleting the posts.

Are banned users allowed to delete their posts?

I understand that it was a Hero member, but couldn't the same be done by lower ranks too, especially if they get banned (provided they can delete their posts, of course)? Also, if they have enough posts, their activity shouldn't go down as long as the number of posts matches the required minimum for their rank. So there is at least one reason for doing that, right?

The post count is stored each time you hit the "post" button. 1 is not added to it when you edit it, so 1 wouldn't be removed when deleting it. I think that getting a ban prevents your from logging into your account. Unless there's a way to bypass it then you will not be able to delete the posts (And would be breaking the terms of your ban affording yourself a permanent ban). Also, activity is generated from post count so if the count is fixed and can only increase, then so is the activity count.

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January 13, 2017, 12:20:48 AM
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A necro post in a gambling discussion? I thought this would be a copy-paste and sure enough Google agreed.
There was a post by jt byte in the same thread.
The original post is there in Google Cache and has been deleted.
My hypothesis - apriloni is an alt of jt byte and is deleting posts in 1 profile and posting it in the other.  Tongue

So does it mean that my hypothesis of users deleting their old posts and submitting them again got finally confirmed?

Kind of. But this wasn't a newbie deleting old posts and another newbie posting them.
The original post was by a Hero member. I guess the account must have been banned if the user didn't mind deleting the posts.

Are banned users allowed to delete their posts?

I understand that it was a Hero member, but couldn't the same be done by lower ranks too, especially if they get banned (provided they can delete their posts, of course)? Also, if they have enough posts, their activity shouldn't go down as long as the number of posts matches the required minimum for their rank. So there is at least one reason for doing that, right?

The post count is stored each time you hit the "post" button. 1 is not added to it when you edit it, so 1 wouldn't be removed when deleting it. I think that getting a ban prevents your from logging into your account. Unless there's a way to bypass it then you will not be able to delete the posts (And would be breaking the terms of your ban affording yourself a permanent ban). Also, activity is generated from post count so if the count is fixed and can only increase, then so is the activity count.

Nope, your post count goes down when a post you make is deleted. You can try it out. So you are wrong about the activity count only increasing as well.
Plus a ban doesn't prevent you from logging into your account. The ban message tells you what you can't do.

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January 26, 2017, 10:41:13 AM
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Here is another one....

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Bitcoin is just a medium of exchange....The real wealth is contained within the goods and services which are exchanged utilizing the platform. If one were to store all of their wealth into a cryptocurrency, instead of exchanging it for an equally valued good or service, and the market dropped out because it was stolen or exploited, then it would have no value to anybody.  In that case, another medium of exchange would present itself.  The goods (bricks, steel, gas, solar panels....etc) and the services (doctors, lawyers, engineers....etc) are where true wealth abides, not the means of exchanging such wealth. Now....if a blockchain could become more resourceful and utilitarian, then we'd have a whole different beast for which to contend.  <---Just an observation!

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It takes too much time to build a protected and secured your funds from your wallet.. in bitcoin i only trust on the wallet like coinbase and blockchain
If one were to store all of their wealth into a cryptocurrency, instead of exchanging it for an equally valued good or service, and the market dropped out because it was stolen or exploited, then it would have no value to anybody. In that case, another medium of exchange would present itself.  The goods (bricks, steel, gas, solar panels....etc) and the services (doctors, lawyers, engineers....etc) are where true wealth abides, not the means of exchanging such wealth.
Another danger is the price of coins, it can go down at some point and it loses value. So you have a loss... Because of it, it's important to know in which coins invest, to don't lose your money price on medium or long term.
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January 26, 2017, 11:14:10 AM
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January 26, 2017, 03:27:55 PM
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I would say that this qualifies as a modified copy-paste, from an earlier post by the same user.  Huh

Yes gambling is very risky mostly when you play it in long run always rember paly it just for fun and do not try to bet all your money if you do not want to loose all your money.

Yes gambling is very risky mostly when you play it in long run thats the reason why you need to learn to play it safely always remember play it just for fun and do not try to bet all your money if you do not want to loose all your money
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January 26, 2017, 03:36:05 PM
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I would say that this qualifies as a modified copy-paste, from an earlier post by the same user.  Huh

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That is most definitely a bot or a severe spammer, so the answer is yes.

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January 28, 2017, 05:26:58 AM
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Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.

I am starting to beleive there are outside forces that are out to make bitcoin fail and are now brainwashing the masses. Telling them bitcoin as a currency has failed.
Of course, we here know that ain't true

The bitcoin magic is losing its Midas touch
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/12e155dc-e5e4-11e5-a09b-1f8b0d268c39.html#axzz42RMnrFyQ

and the imitator.  Smiley

Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.
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January 28, 2017, 08:49:33 AM
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The original

Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.

I am starting to beleive there are outside forces that are out to make bitcoin fail and are now brainwashing the masses. Telling them bitcoin as a currency has failed.
Of course, we here know that ain't true

The bitcoin magic is losing its Midas touch
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/12e155dc-e5e4-11e5-a09b-1f8b0d268c39.html#axzz42RMnrFyQ

and the imitator.  Smiley

Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.

I reported Kahir for copy paste previously here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0

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January 28, 2017, 08:57:43 AM
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The original

Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.

I am starting to beleive there are outside forces that are out to make bitcoin fail and are now brainwashing the masses. Telling them bitcoin as a currency has failed.
Of course, we here know that ain't true

The bitcoin magic is losing its Midas touch
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/12e155dc-e5e4-11e5-a09b-1f8b0d268c39.html#axzz42RMnrFyQ

and the imitator.  Smiley

Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.

I reported Kahir for copy paste previously here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0


Seems to be a serial copy-paster, who has gotten away for months. Maybe because it is a legendary account?
We just have to wait for the moderators to take note.
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January 29, 2017, 02:33:30 PM
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The original

Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.

I am starting to beleive there are outside forces that are out to make bitcoin fail and are now brainwashing the masses. Telling them bitcoin as a currency has failed.
Of course, we here know that ain't true

The bitcoin magic is losing its Midas touch
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/12e155dc-e5e4-11e5-a09b-1f8b0d268c39.html#axzz42RMnrFyQ

and the imitator.  Smiley

Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.

I reported Kahir for copy paste previously here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0


Seems to be a serial copy-paster, who has gotten away for months. Maybe because it is a legendary account?
We just have to wait for the moderators to take note.

Meanwhile, has anyone created a bot to detect this problem?
A simple tool to see if your posts have been plagairised would be quite handy.

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January 29, 2017, 02:54:48 PM
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The original

Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.

I am starting to beleive there are outside forces that are out to make bitcoin fail and are now brainwashing the masses. Telling them bitcoin as a currency has failed.
Of course, we here know that ain't true

The bitcoin magic is losing its Midas touch
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/12e155dc-e5e4-11e5-a09b-1f8b0d268c39.html#axzz42RMnrFyQ

and the imitator.  Smiley

Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.

I reported Kahir for copy paste previously here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0


Seems to be a serial copy-paster, who has gotten away for months. Maybe because it is a legendary account?
We just have to wait for the moderators to take note.

Meanwhile, has anyone created a bot to detect this problem?
A simple tool to see if your posts have been plagairised would be quite handy.

but wouldn't overload the forum ever more, considering that are already topics about people complaining about forum being slow and stuff

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January 29, 2017, 08:35:06 PM
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The original

Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.

I am starting to beleive there are outside forces that are out to make bitcoin fail and are now brainwashing the masses. Telling them bitcoin as a currency has failed.
Of course, we here know that ain't true

The bitcoin magic is losing its Midas touch
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/12e155dc-e5e4-11e5-a09b-1f8b0d268c39.html#axzz42RMnrFyQ

and the imitator.  Smiley

Mainstream media strikes again! Trying to box bitcoin as a currency and completely ignoring its other potential - killer app economic censorship.

I reported Kahir for copy paste previously here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0


Seems to be a serial copy-paster, who has gotten away for months. Maybe because it is a legendary account?
We just have to wait for the moderators to take note.

Meanwhile, has anyone created a bot to detect this problem?
A simple tool to see if your posts have been plagairised would be quite handy.

but wouldn't overload the forum ever more, considering that are already topics about people complaining about forum being slow and stuff

The forum's quite quick. The browsers of the people using it is slow?
There is a limit of one connection per second (I think) meaning that you cannot send more than one request to the server from the same IP more than 1 second (making it harder for archiving services as well). Maybe there's a mirrored version of this site tat could be tested instead? It's a shame the entire index.php data isn't uploaded to somewhere like github with the part of the sql data that contains the information such as user who posted it, rank, activity, post count, signature, avatar and actual text of what they put.
I thought the forum was intended to be fairly slow anyway due to the magnitude of information that needs pulling and loading.

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January 31, 2017, 06:40:42 AM
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We might want to use captcha to stop the spamming...
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January 31, 2017, 10:17:51 AM
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We might want to use captcha to stop the spamming...
Captcha is already implemented and trivially mitigated depending on the software used by the bot. It seems that you're far behind with the recent developments in this area.

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February 01, 2017, 11:53:10 PM
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We might want to use captcha to stop the spamming...

Yes, there is captcha solving software and bypass systems that can be added to the captcah software. This means that the captchas added are pactically ineefective and a person could always save the post as a draft (before the captcha) and then post the draft afterwards (not to difficult to post 20 drafts to a site at random times and they're supposed to be spam anyway and can blend into some of what already exists).

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February 08, 2017, 01:21:11 AM
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Another user who may be repeating himself

Usury is a action where loan is given to person based on the condition that he should pay a certain percent of amount as interest irrespective of whether he gains profit or not.If usury is banned and interest free loans are given, it will be good but today we dont find any such options.In some islamic countries,islamic banking system is followed as an alternative option. I dont know how banning usury will promote crypto currencies because usury is a financial option and crypto currency is a trading option.They are not inter related to each other.

Rehashed with the dictionary definition of usury and the highlighted portion of the post above.

Usury is the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interests.Usury is a financial option and cryptocurrencies are trading option.They are not inter related to each other.We can inturn say that promoting crypto currencies and providing people a new source of income would free people from Usury.
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February 08, 2017, 09:33:14 AM
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Another user who may be repeating himself

Usury is a action where loan is given to person based on the condition that he should pay a certain percent of amount as interest irrespective of whether he gains profit or not.If usury is banned and interest free loans are given, it will be good but today we dont find any such options.In some islamic countries,islamic banking system is followed as an alternative option. I dont know how banning usury will promote crypto currencies because usury is a financial option and crypto currency is a trading option.They are not inter related to each other.

Rehashed with the dictionary definition of usury and the highlighted portion of the post above.

Usury is the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interests.Usury is a financial option and cryptocurrencies are trading option.They are not inter related to each other.We can inturn say that promoting crypto currencies and providing people a new source of income would free people from Usury.

It seems that you are a bit overstretching it. After all, words are no more than a rehashed combination of the alphabet. I guess you should evaluate the post content on the overall impression it produces (i.e. whether it contributes something new to discussion). Otherwise, you'll be seeing only that, namely, rehashed combinations of the alphabet symbols. While I don't like neither of these posts, but it's certainly not for the reasons which you base your conclusion on

In other words, when you go headhunting try not to lose your own head

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February 08, 2017, 02:32:18 PM
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It seems that you are a bit overstretching it. After all, words are no more than a rehashed combination of the alphabet. I guess you should evaluate the post content on the overall impression it produces (i.e. whether it contributes something new to discussion). Otherwise, you'll be seeing only that, namely, rehashed combinations of the alphabet symbols. While I don't like neither of these posts, but it's certainly not for the reasons which you base your conclusion on

In other words, when you go headhunting try not to lose your own head

Fair enough. In the end, we report posts and mods make their decisions.
In this particular case, marcoman22 has been perma-banned (may not be just because of the above posts though)
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #323504
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February 08, 2017, 03:50:57 PM
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It seems that you are a bit overstretching it. After all, words are no more than a rehashed combination of the alphabet. I guess you should evaluate the post content on the overall impression it produces (i.e. whether it contributes something new to discussion). Otherwise, you'll be seeing only that, namely, rehashed combinations of the alphabet symbols. While I don't like neither of these posts, but it's certainly not for the reasons which you base your conclusion on

In other words, when you go headhunting try not to lose your own head

Fair enough. In the end, we report posts and mods make their decisions.
In this particular case, marcoman22 has been perma-banned (may not be just because of the above posts though)
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #323504

I'm not not a mod (and don't wanna be one unless I'm really well paid), but if I were I wouldn't perma ban for just this kind of posts. On the other hand, if I were a campaign manager I wouldn't want such posts (and posters) either. Since it seems to be pretty straightforward that such posts are made exclusively for the sake of payment (in the majority of cases), it should be enough to just exclude them from the sig campaign they are enrolled in or just disable their signatures if they persist in spamming

But what does autoban actually refer to here (or may refer)?

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