Should Bitmain make a Q7?

[notlist3d]

Besides the power/noise profile of the S7, the price is a real deal breaker for me. Unless and until Bitmain has a reason to reduce the prices (e.g. serious competition), they will get a premium price for the S7. I think any BTC price machination are strictly cover for having Bitmain adjust the price the way they want. We saw this during the early days of the S5, and never made sense to me, It always seemed more related to what Spondoolies was charging.

I am close to 100% sure that they can charge $1000 for S7 and still make a hefty profit.
After all, there are only 2.7 times more chips in there. $350X2.7=$945
the rest is cable and plastic plus $15 for a extra fan=less than $1000 with similar profit margin as S5.

Also remember they kept the 28nm chip.  They have mastered making it at this point.  Others went down in NM.  Bitmain is at a huge advantage keeping same NM.  They no doubt have much cheaper costs sticking with it.

They could have made a hefty profit at I suspect much less.  But greed came into play... they jacked price knowing only one putting one out right now.  I suspect it will go down one day but not till there is someone else producing miners to public.

[VirosaGITS]

And by the time they switch to 16NM in 2016, the process cost will be much lower and they will be able to jack the price up while still keeping the cost down. Monopoly hurts.

[notlist3d]

And by the time they switch to 16NM in 2016, the process cost will be much lower and they will be able to jack the price up while still keeping the cost down. Monopoly hurts.

The sad thing is likely they have R/D working on lower NM chips.  So they will be ready once they decide to release one I have a feeling.

But with being only one right now they can keep 28 nm and make bigger profits.  It was a business decision to keep 28 nm.  I have a feeling they can win at both front's with all the resources they have.

[onemorexmr]

imho quite miners are very important to keep bitcoin decentralized.
as stated in the op: they can be used as heating devices which essentially means: mining is only a by-product. no data-center can beat this.

i really hope many vendors will enter this consumer market.

[philipma1957]

imho quite miners are very important to keep bitcoin decentralized.
as stated in the op: they can be used as heating devices which essentially means: mining is only a by-product. no data-center can beat this.

i really hope many vendors will enter this consumer market.

bring back the s-3 with s-5 chips

2 boards 2000 gh  500 watts

the s-3 is the greatest miner ever made if used for heating as its primary purpose.

[notlist3d]

imho quite miners are very important to keep bitcoin decentralized.
as stated in the op: they can be used as heating devices which essentially means: mining is only a by-product. no data-center can beat this.

i really hope many vendors will enter this consumer market.

bring back the s-3 with s-5 chips

2 boards 2000 gh  500 watts

the s-3 is the greatest miner ever made if used for heating as its primary purpose.

It was truly a tank.  It seemed like the S3 could take it all back then.  The only problem I ever had was once network went down during flashing.... but was not expensive to fix.

I don't see them doing this though.  I think the new bitmain products are going to be big.   Easy to put in a data center if they want.

[Biodom]

imho quite miners are very important to keep bitcoin decentralized.
as stated in the op: they can be used as heating devices which essentially means: mining is only a by-product. no data-center can beat this.

i really hope many vendors will enter this consumer market.

bring back the s-3 with s-5 chips

2 boards 2000 gh  500 watts

the s-3 is the greatest miner ever made if used for heating as its primary purpose.

yeah, these would be versatile..and a much better seller to retail crowd/us.
bitcoin market is truly messed up right now with basically no large scale suppliers except BM.

[Tupsu]

I think with the S5+ monster and the S7 using the same 3 card chassis and controller with provision for 9 Hash boards, combined with the lack of an S6 and we have seen the way forward as being very high density modules, based on a single hash board design for single unit and 3 unit rack type units. Entirely geared towards Farms, with an S7+ and 14.58TH/S is the next logical step.
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The length of S7 is 301 mm

The length of S5+ is only 275 mm

The lenght of S5+ blade is 180 mm , height 127 mm at lower edge

The length and height of S7 blade are not known.

[QuintLeo]

Just a matter of time before there is an S7+ I'm sure - they already have the infrastructure in place.
 I wonder if they'll offer "S7 -> S7+" upgrade "kits"?

[VirosaGITS]

Just a matter of time before there is an S7+ I'm sure - they already have the infrastructure in place.
 I wonder if they'll offer "S7 -> S7+" upgrade "kits"?

I think they will sell additions, not exactly an upgrade kit. Basically you would just need to plug a S7+ on a S7's controller board. At the very least, it look like everything is set it place for that.

[notlist3d]

Just a matter of time before there is an S7+ I'm sure - they already have the infrastructure in place.
 I wonder if they'll offer "S7 -> S7+" upgrade "kits"?

I think they will sell additions, not exactly an upgrade kit. Basically you would just need to plug a S7+ on a S7's controller board. At the very least, it look like everything is set it place for that.

I think it will be a upgrade kit.  The controller is set up for 3 units already it looks like.  So would be easy to throw a pack of two miners without controllers and call it a + upgrade or something like that.

I think they will do it down the road though, not at launch.

[fullzero]

Just got my first S7

You can software control the fan speed 

Thank you Bitmain!

[QuintLeo]

The length of S7 is 301 mm

The length of S5+ is only 275 mm

 2 fans on an S7 vs 1 on the S5+ is likely the difference there.

[RichBC]

Both S5+ & S7 have two fans, difference is in the board length as the S7 has an extra column of Chips to accomaodate.

Rich