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August 31, 2015, 08:00:53 PM
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Up to 100 injured in clashes between security and nationalist protesters outside parliament in Kiev

Demonstrators have brawled and lobbed grenades outside Ukraine’s parliament, killing one officer from the interior ministry’s National Guard and injuring up to 100.

The violence was in protest against a parliamentary vote to grant concessions to territories held by Russian-backed rebels.

The interior minister, Arsen Avakov, said one officer died from shrapnel wounds and around 10 more were seriously injured. Most of the protesters appeared to come from Svoboda, a far-right political party that was part of the Maidan movement which overthrew the president Viktor Yanukovych last year but did badly at the polls and only has a handful of MPs

Kiev’s mayor, Vitaly Klitschko, called the unrest “a bloody provocation” and said those responsible should be brought to justice. It was the worst street violence in Kiev since the fatal crushing of the Maidan protests last year, which resulted in more than 100 deaths and the ousting of Yanukovych.

After the subsequent war in east Ukraine led to at least 7,000 deaths, Ukraine promised “special status” to the areas of the eastern Donbass region, which are under rebel control, as part of the Minsk ceasefire agreement. But the concessions are controversial at a time when many in Ukraine believe Moscow is doing little to hold up its side of the bargain.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/31/blast-kiev-parliament-ukraine-mps-back-more-autonomy-for-rebels

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August 31, 2015, 08:55:31 PM
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Looks like the Ukrainian government's use of neo-nazis and extremist groups as cannon fodder against the Russians is starting to backfire against them.
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August 31, 2015, 09:08:40 PM
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But the concessions are controversial at a time when many in Ukraine believe Moscow is doing little to hold up its side of the bargain.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/31/blast-kiev-parliament-ukraine-mps-back-more-autonomy-for-rebels

Well, Maidan 2.0, as was expected last year, when the West used those Nazis as their tools to perform the coup in Ukraine...

But what caught my attention is the quote above. the fact is, "Moscow" is not a part in any bargain at all, so there is nothing for it to hold. Moscow, brokered the ceasefire and is the only thing holding back US and their EU puppets from a wholesale genocide of the Russian population. In effect, Moscow is the same party in the conflict as a judge in a sparring match (probably not he best comparison, but still)...

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September 01, 2015, 09:26:44 AM
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Also, a few thoughts come to mind:

1. According to the reports, this guardsman was shot through the heart. According to pictures, they were wearing bullet-proof vests. So either he was really unlucky with an entry angle, or the vests held the same " high standard", or there were snipers with high-powered rifles, just like in February 2014, when both law enforcement "Berkut" and protesters were gunned down by snipers.

2. It is too early to say who is behind this round of Maidan. Poroshenko promised to deal harshly with the protesters, probably remembering all too well that it's the same type of "protests" that put him into power after the legitimate president of Ukraine was removed in a coup last year.

3. Now that our attention is diverted to Kiev, will Poroshenko and his overseas masters launch a massive attack against the residents of Novorossia, which they were threatening with, promising to start it after the "Independence" Day?

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September 01, 2015, 05:01:33 PM
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Svoboda only has the support of around 10% to 15% of the Ukrainian citizens. Even if we add in Oleg Lyashko and his Radical Party, I really doubt whether the support will cross the 20% mark. With that sort of support, they will not be able to do anything. And indulging in violence any further will be suicidal for them.

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September 02, 2015, 01:38:15 PM
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Svoboda only has the support of around 10% to 15% of the Ukrainian citizens. Even if we add in Oleg Lyashko and his Radical Party, I really doubt whether the support will cross the 20% mark. With that sort of support, they will not be able to do anything. And indulging in violence any further will be suicidal for them.

As we saw with Poroshenko's (s)elections last year, percentage of support has nothing to do with who ends up in power...  Roll Eyes

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