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September 19, 2015, 10:12:28 AM
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September 19, 2015, 10:42:48 AM
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have already explained several times about the money i get from investors.

The money "I need" is just to fix the "at prorata"
if you do not understand this i cannot help you more...

if you do not understand this...it is no need to tall about other things...
the "at prorata" is the heart of the system.

I never said I dont understand the phrase, but as you wish. I unwatch this thread. Contact me via PM once you decided to answer my question in a way a 5 year old would understand.


Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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September 19, 2015, 11:00:53 AM
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Sorry,
if i answer by PM
my answer will not be seen and so i have perhaps to answer at the same question for other members of this forum.

But perhaps i have not understood your question?
or what you have not understood...

For me all seems so clear about the "at prorata"
show the first investor and the last investor.
the last has got 1.52 satoshi with the last dividend
The first one has got 34 times more because he has 34 times more pending investment...

I really do not see where it is complicated and where you see a ponzi sheme.
Because all you are searching is a ponzi sheme argument you do not find...
Normal because it is not a ponzi sheme.
Someone who has understood has writen on this forum:
it's a revenue share system...
he is right.

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September 19, 2015, 11:35:58 PM
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http://bitcoin.winspiral.net

Plan 100 days maxi.
Investment 1mBTC minimum

No risk...You can not lose.
You can follow the earning process several times updated per day.

Earning depends on the income of the site itself.
The investors are shareholders of the site.







This site and that addres were belong to you?? Can i get any detail here how you manage our money??? So i can make my personal analisis before i jump on yours program...
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September 20, 2015, 06:47:15 AM
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http://bitcoin.winspiral.net

Plan 100 days maxi.
Investment 1mBTC minimum

No risk...You can not lose.
You can follow the earning process several times updated per day.

Earning depends on the income of the site itself.
The investors are shareholders of the site.







This site and that addres were belong to you?? Can i get any detail here how you manage our money??? So i can make my personal analisis before i jump on yours program...

No problem even if I have it explained here several times.
it seems it is hard to understand for people...I hope it is understood by the investors.

Your money serves only and strictly only to determine the part of shares you have in the start-up.
is this clear?
if this is not understood...all my system is not understood.

let's suppose in my startup is invested 49mBTS (pending investment)
if you invest 1mBTC we have 50mBTC pending investment.
so each time a dividend is given you earn (dividend/50*1)

if you invest 2mBTC:
so each time a dividend is given you earn (dividend/51*2)

Is so far all clear...because if one does not understand this...i cannot imagine how one can analyse...

i have got 2 negative trust points from people who does not understand this...
The problem is...because of this 2 people i have lost my avatar sponsor.
If each time I would not understand something or someone i give a negative trust point i would only do this...


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September 20, 2015, 08:00:20 AM
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You are asking for donation or investment? It says we will get our money back by 100 days but if it is investment than what is our profit mate. It is little confusing. In your site also there is no good eExplanation about return.

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September 20, 2015, 08:57:05 AM
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You are asking for donation or investment? It says we will get our money back by 100 days but if it is investment than what is our profit mate. It is little confusing. In your site also there is no good eExplanation about return.


i'm asking for nothing...
it is said:
if you send less than the minimum,it is considered like a donation.

I give you the possibility to invest in my startup and so i give you the possibility to take a part of my profit.
My profit but not my lost if lost will be.
Because for you it is no risk.
The risk is only on my side.For you what you have invested and the dividend you got is yours all your at the end of 100 days.
But let suppose that i'm not paid from the advertisment company...the lost is for me.
it can happen...just yesterday a welknown company has been hacked and has suspended activity.(adbit or something in this kind)(i have read it on this forum)

For me all is running perfectly...my system works.
so far i have 4 or 5 investors...it's already enough to see my system working.
Now every body is free to invest or not...and the actual investosr will as well do what they want...invest more,reinvest the payouts or just taking the payouts and waiting the last one with dividends accumulated...



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September 21, 2015, 12:35:51 AM
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Received my first payment of dust from this investment.  Thanks Winspiral lease keep it up
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September 21, 2015, 08:01:06 AM
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I believe in my system and one can see the progress if one analyse the 4 graphics.
About dust...
It know it is a problem but we know that payouts are 10% of investment.
Only the last payout is 10% + dividends.
It is why I advice to take a wallet like XAPO where you do not have fees and so dust do not generate fees like with some wallets.

Like about many start-ups the profit at the start is low and the progress high...
It will be interresting to see how in a month or so the profit and the progress are.
Because like you I do not know.
Anyway,it cannot progress like now for ever.














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September 21, 2015, 08:57:54 AM
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Received my first payment of dust from this investment.  Thanks Winspiral lease keep it up
same got another payment from here. 20% of my initial investment are back
Thank you!  Grin

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September 21, 2015, 10:01:09 AM
Last edit: September 21, 2015, 06:46:21 PM by winspiral
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Received my first payment of dust from this investment.  Thanks Winspiral lease keep it up
same got another payment from here. 20% of my initial investment are back
Thank you!  Grin

you'r welcome.
I overlook bhievly your accounts...
so far if I have looked well you can count of a profit of 5000 satoshi or so...
Thanks for your trust because one had to be very courageous to invest in a start-up where nothing is promised about profit.

Sorry for the brain gymnastick one has to do to analyse for so little profit...
But I'm confident seeing the progress.
Roma was not bought in one day.


I have a question in my message box i will answer here so many people can learn about:

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I saw your site and have some question.
BTC sent
pending BTC
Next payout
BTC paid

can you explain (in a simple way, please) what those 4 means?
also that is your site, correct? the one on your sig?

"BTC sent" is what the investor has sent in the system.

"pending BTC" is what it taken to calculate the dividends.

"Next payout" is what is used to send you 10% of "BTC sent"
This is done 9 times.At the last and 10th payout is added the dividend and then the plan is finished.

"BTC paid" is what the system has paid out.

"Inv date" is the date where the plan started.

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On the "YOUR PROFIT" page you have as well:

"Profit" is what your dividend made.This is the minimum you will get with the last payout.

"% next payout" is the same than "Next payout" but in percentage.It is more representative for me to see when a payout is possible.

"% paid" is what is paid.If you see more then 100% then the plan is finished.

The 4 graphic pages are very important too to analyse the present and the past of the start-up...
Unfortunately I know nothing about the future. Smiley




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September 22, 2015, 01:53:44 PM
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Soon new payouts will be done.

For the ones who follow this system:
You have certaily noticed that dividends are paid if time the algorithm allows it.
At the same moment a part of your " pending btc" balance is transfered to the "next payout" balance.

This is done so long the paid out is less than 90% of "sent btc" balance.

This decrease the "pending btc" balance.
The investors can then reinvest or not...
It's the subtility of this investment game.

I am creating a "FAQ" page with your questions here or on other topics.
Feel free to ask if something is not clear.
I'm sure all is certainly not clear...for you...

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September 23, 2015, 08:34:31 AM
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More info about the "YOUR PROFIT" page:

You can follow the payout and the percentages of "paid" and "next payout"

You have to understand that your "pending BTC" does decrease.
It is "pending BTC" who counts to calculate your dividends.

You must see it so:
you invest:
The system send you back from your investment.
Your mission (if you accept it)(lol) is to reinvest or not.

it's a game...
do not imagine that I incite people to invest...NO.
I propose only a system where it is possible to invest...
You are the ones  then who decide if it is interesting or not to do.
This interest is different for eash one.
Why?
Because it depends on the fees you have sending and receiving "dust".
No problem for the ones who have fees free wallets such "xapo".
For other ones they have to judge themselves.
After it depends if it is sleeping money.
A part of your investment is immonolised...think about(but it's normal else it where not an investment.

If you are afraid about all was talked (ponzi,scam,negative trust points,...etc) be rassured...after 100 days you will see all your investment again and a little more.

The graphic you can see on the graphic pages are not fake.
BZW,sorry if sometimes the pages take time to load...
This time is unfortunately taken from sponsors sites and graphic site and o course sometimes from my site too.

What you see on the "profit" balance is the minimum you will get with your last withdrawal.





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September 24, 2015, 08:19:14 PM
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If you have questions I will answer here and on the FAQ page.

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September 25, 2015, 06:05:46 AM
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thank you for payment, Cheesy
received 2 payment from this. 40% investment is back

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Last edit: September 25, 2015, 09:36:10 AM by winspiral
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thank you for payment, Cheesy
received 2 payment from this. 40% investment is back

you are welcome and you are not the only who is paid back.

You can see in full transparence all payout made on the "your profit" page.
If you see "next payout" balance over 10% you very certainly will have soon a payout.

When you go on the site,please let pages time to load.
if you go to quick from page to page,the banner have not time to load and your dividends will not increase.
The time to load is not a problem on my side but on the sponsor side.

I have money imobilised by the sponsors.
if I ask to often a withdrawal i have each time fees.
At the other side...so long money is not in my wallet,it is risk that the sonsors disappear before I'am paid.
You can be assured that the profit you see will be in your wallet at the end of the plan even if I'm not paid.
What I promise will be hold.

Follow the graphic pages...it shows you the situation and it can you help to take a decision to invest or not.
In principle the situation should not change suddendly.
But of course if suddendly much is invested...individual dividends will decrease even if global dividend will increase.
To image this:
Pie is bigger but divided by more people.

i see all is clear...because i do not see questions (lol)

EDITION:
A new page on the site:
You can now see the percentage of pending investment.
This is important because it is this who determinates the part you own in the start-up.








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September 26, 2015, 07:14:04 AM
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I received few emails by contact link.
All have talked about the low profit promises and this is not understood.

I repeate the profit promises are not low because nothing is promised about profit.

I cannot promise about what I do not know.
I just can say that:
If investments decrease and incomes grow...it will be very profitable.
You decide and only you can decide for yourself  if it is worth for you to invest for a little profit.

Soon or late or never it will be profitable for you or for someones.

I could give more dividends.
But I prefer not take the risk to pay to much and after I am not paid from sponsors.
This wouls hurt the future of the startup.

I prefer follow a strick reality with a little reserve for the future.
What you see on your account I can assume...more not.
if you invest in a house who is under construction...you have no profit at the begining.
Here it is almost the same...you have just little profit.

Follow the graphic pages.They are speaking.




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September 27, 2015, 07:34:15 AM
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To day I talk you about the dividend rate.
you can see the graphic on the dividend rate page.

We see:
2015/09/14 dividend rate = 549
2015/09/27 dividend rate = 1338

The rate is satoshi per dividend for 1 BTC.
This is so far very low but the progress is very big.
It's low...but remember that is risk free.
You and only you can estimate if it is better investing or to let sleeping your satoshi in your wallet.

You need a little use maths to calculate your real profit because if you invest you have soon part of cashback.
So if you invest 0.001BTC very soon you have invested less.
You have only invested (investment - cashback)




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September 28, 2015, 07:35:01 AM
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Income higher
Pending investment lower
This means mathematically better dividend rate.

What will do the market?

I'm myself curious because I do not know.






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September 28, 2015, 03:17:16 PM
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This isn't the sort of thing I'm normally interested in. What's your model and how do you expect to return profit?

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