How to check If someone added me to their default trust list?

[Neotox]

I have a question in mind that I want to ask

How we can check if someone added me to their default trust list?
is it possible to check and if yes then how


I know we can check the users who are in trust list of depth1 users but is there a way to check if we can check for ourself, how many users added us to their trust list

I want to see if someone added me to their list 

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[tspacepilot]

There may be other ways to do it, but the easiest one I know about is to look at your trust settings page and add the person you're curious about to your trust list.  Then refresh the page and click "hierarchichal view" down at the bottom of the page.  After that, each person in your trust list's appears with their trust list indented below their name, if you're in their trust list, you'll find yourself there.

[deadley]

Click Trust then trust setting then scroll down and Hierarchical view.

You will see who added whom.

see manually by checking if your name appear there.

[Neotox]

There may be other ways to do it, but the easiest one I know about is to look at your trust settings page and add the person you're curious about to your trust list.  Then refresh the page and click "hierarchichal view" down at the bottom of the page.  After that, each person in your trust list's appears with their trust list indented below their name, if you're in their trust list, you'll find yourself there.

I want to know who added me to their list, if I already know someone who added me to their list then why I would ask them

The question is how to check who added me to their trust list?

[Neotox]

Click Trust then trust setting then scroll down and Hierarchical view.

You will see who added whom.

see manually by checking if your name appear there.

It works for only default trust users
I want to know any user added me to their trust list (not from default trust users because when they add us we already know this,and I am sure they won't me add ) so I am asking how to check if some non default trust users added me to their list

[deadley]

Click Trust then trust setting then scroll down and Hierarchical view.

You will see who added whom.

see manually by checking if your name appear there.

It works for only default trust users
I want to know any user added me to their trust list (not from default trust users because when they add us we already know this,and I am sure they won't me add ) so I am asking how to check if some non default trust users added me to their list

I think then you must increase your depth level to 4 then see till that level someone added you or not but it's too much pain to see like that.

Trust list will increase too much.

P.S. try to find through ctrl+F

[Neotox]

Click Trust then trust setting then scroll down and Hierarchical view.

You will see who added whom.

see manually by checking if your name appear there.

It works for only default trust users
I want to know any user added me to their trust list (not from default trust users because when they add us we already know this,and I am sure they won't me add ) so I am asking how to check if some non default trust users added me to their list

I think then you must increase your depth level to 4 then see till that level someone added you or not but it's too much pain to see like that.

Trust list will increase too much.

P.S. try to find through ctrl+F

I think you are still missing the real question

I asked How to check if from ~537247 total users of this forum,  anyone added me to their trust list then, How to find that if someone did and who?

[tspacepilot]

Click Trust then trust setting then scroll down and Hierarchical view.

You will see who added whom.

see manually by checking if your name appear there.

It works for only default trust users
I want to know any user added me to their trust list (not from default trust users because when they add us we already know this,and I am sure they won't me add ) so I am asking how to check if some non default trust users added me to their list

I think then you must increase your depth level to 4 then see till that level someone added you or not but it's too much pain to see like that.

Trust list will increase too much.

P.S. try to find through ctrl+F

I think you are still missing the real question

I asked How to check if from ~537247 total users of this forum,  anyone added me to their trust list then, How to find that if someone did and who?

At one point, theymos produced a large graph file of the trust network, I don't think there's any public tool to try to do that (but I could be wrong).  To see if you're on anyone's trust list anywhere it seems like you'd need to export the whole graph somehow.

[Neotox]

At one point, theymos produced a large graph file of the trust network, I don't think there's any public tool to try to do that (but I could be wrong).  To see if you're on anyone's trust list anywhere it seems like you'd need to export the whole graph somehow.

cool, thanks,

I hope theymos,badbear or any moderator will answer this
lets wait for their response

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I don't think there's an "official" way to do that.
try making an alt and add every users ranked newbie and up in its trust list. that might work. make sure you set the depth setting to depth 1 or it'll take a looooooong time to load.

[Neotox]

I don't think there's an "official" way to do that.
try making an alt and add every users ranked newbie and up in its trust list. that might work. make sure you set the depth setting to depth 1 or it'll take a looooooong time to load.

Adding over 500K users to trust list, I will die for sure before I know if someone added me to their trust list if I used this method
I am sure there is an easy way to find, I want to know about that

[Lauda]

This is really simple:
Step 1) Go to the trust settings
Step 2) Scroll down and click Hierarchical view
Step 3) Ctrl+F and enter your username (Neotox in this case)

Make sure to enter depth 4 else you probably aren't going to see your name often (if at all). Also it is worth nothing that what you see might change according to your own list.
Beyond this point is pretty pointless though, the question is why? Ask dogie for help.

[--Encrypted--]

This is really simple, I'm not sure how you guys are not aware of this:
Step 1) Go to the trust settings
Step 2) Scroll down and click Hierarchical view
Step 3) Ctrl+F and enter your username (Neotox in this case)

Make sure to enter depth 4 else you probably aren't going to see your name often (if at all). Also it is worth nothing that what you see might change according to your own list.

he wanted to know every user that added him to their trust list. not only people from the depth 3.

@neotox
actually there's only about 250K of non brand new members. and about 70% of them are newbies. but yeah, it's still a lot of work if you don't have some kind of a bot.

[whywefight]

Setting DT with a depth of 4 gives you (or in this case me) 31883 Lines. Found my self exactly one time. if you remove duplicates from this list you will end up with 2889 Lines. This means 2889 people are trusted somehow by the DT with a depth of 4. Well, i know that wasnt the question...

You need a relation of active users in past 12 month to those 2889 lines, i think.

EDIT: my list includes excluded ppl, cause i was lazy

Here is the Default Trust Visualisation [Picture Heavy] [3rd June] -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1062052.0

[Neotox]

So no one know the answer of this including staff and admin?
if it is possible then how and if not then tell me its not possible

[EcuaMobi]

So no one know the answer of this including staff and admin?
if it is possible then how and if not then tell me its not possible

I'm pretty sure it's not possible. I've explored the trust settings and profile a lot and I've never found anything like that. That would be pretty cool.
Almost certainly you can only see the trust tree up to the 4th level from either default trust or your custom list.

[tspacepilot]

I'm pretty sure it's not possible. I've explored the trust settings and profile a lot and I've never found anything like that. That would be pretty cool.
Almost certainly you can only see the trust tree up to the 4th level from either default trust or your custom list.

It's not a tree, it's not even a DAG.  It's a graph with many cycles.  I think you could reconstruct the graph, by putting different users into the trust box and using "hierarchical view" then writing down the links.  Obviously this would be incredibly time consuming.  I wonder if Theymos could tell us about how he exported the trust graph earlier and if/whether that would be an easy function to make public.  I really enjoyed seeing the graph and the visualizations that people made of it.

[theymos]

https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown.

[Mitchell]

https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes".

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that.
Also, damn, a lot of people have me on their trust list (~ = excluded):

haploid23, Maidak, BadBear, PsychoticBoy, TheButterZone, mnightwaffle, dobetter, Welsh, mrbrt, dogie, ~shitaifan2013, dnaleor, MikeMike, Gws24, LaudaM, TookDk, goose20, siameze, EAL, aksplace, hedgy73, Jansen27, shorena, CyberRat, merakicoin, jodybay, Muhammed Zakir, CJBianco, ~QuickSeller, mmsen, Berau, fvs114, digicoinuser, Dorrittulx

[theymos]

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that.

I just set this up.

[Mitchell]

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that.

I just set this up.

I thought dogie used this for the Default Trust Visualisation pictures he made? It didn't exist before or did he use something like this?

EDIT: I just found your post and it seems that it was a one-time thing. I was wrong, my bad!

Here's the complete trust network if you want to make a larger graph:
https://bitcointalk.org/trust20150516.txt.xz

-> is "trusts", -/> is "distrusts".

[EcuaMobi]

https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown.

This is great!
I mean probably it's not *really* useful but it's definitely cool! I hope soon somebody will come up with a tool to grab that information and generate graphs, interactive trees and more.

[tspacepilot]

This is great!
I mean probably it's not *really* useful but it's definitely cool! I hope soon somebody will come up with a tool to grab that information and generate graphs, interactive trees and more.

Here's a start, this script downloads and upacks the source, removes the exclusion nodes (for now), encapsulates the node list in a simple digraph format that should be drawable by graphviz, and calls circo on it. 

Code:

#!/bin/bash

wget https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz
unxz trust.txt.xz

cat trust.txt | sed -f trust.sed > trust.clean
echo "digraph {" > trust.graph
cat trust.clean >>trust.graph
echo "};" >> trust.graph

# make a simple graph
circo trust.graph

Code:

# remove exclusions
/-\/>/d
# encapsulate names
s/\(.*\)->\(.*\)/"\1"->"\2"/

Name the first codeblock whatever you want and make it executable, name the second codeblock 'trust.sed' and put it in the same dir as the first codeblock.  Execute.  (assumes you have wget, unxz, and graphiviz installed and on your $PATH).

The problem for me is that I use terrible, low-end hardware, the graphviz executable "circo" is still running after 10 minutes.  I don't know how long it will take so who knows, maybe there are issues.   I can post again if this works or doesn't work but I just thought I'd reply to ecua about automatically downloading and drawing---it's a start.


EDIT: circo is slow for large graphs!  I changed the executable to twopi, but still playing around with it.

[shorena]

Sweet. A simple grep <username> for Neotox:

Code:

defcon23->Neotox
Argwai96->Neotox

and for EcuaMobi:

Code:

Soros Shorts-/>EcuaMobi
dserrano5->EcuaMobi
KWH->EcuaMobi
shitaifan2013-/>EcuaMobi
n00bwastaken->EcuaMobi
sacskate->EcuaMobi
ahmedjadoon->EcuaMobi
EcuaMobi-/>Luke-Jr
EcuaMobi->Blazr
EcuaMobi->b!z
EcuaMobi-/>lazlopanaflex
EcuaMobi->xetsr
EcuaMobi-/>SavellM
EcuaMobi-/>favdesu
EcuaMobi->monbux
EcuaMobi->devthedev
EcuaMobi-/>BayAreaCoins
EcuaMobi-/>tspacepilot
EcuaMobi-/>cxboyminer
EcuaMobi-/>KeyserSozeMC
EcuaMobi-/>cryptodevil
EcuaMobi-/>jonald_fyookball
EcuaMobi-/>BenAnh
EcuaMobi-/>Fakhoury
EcuaMobi-/>Stuff4Bitcoin
Muhammed Zakir->EcuaMobi
liteon->EcuaMobi
Quickseller->EcuaMobi
onewiseguy->EcuaMobi
The Bad Guy-/>EcuaMobi
Joebrann->EcuaMobi

[tspacepilot]

Still needs some help, but here's a first image (generated with just a single command using the script above, somewhat modified):




Clearly it's kinda a total mess so you'd need to tweak the parameters to graphviz, nonetheless, I thought the script to download and draw was worth posting.  This version of "showtrust.sh" works at least for that (and while twopi clearly didn't do a great job laying out the text here, it did draw in under a minute using my low-powered, 3 year old laptop.

Code:

#!/bin/bash

wget https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz
unxz trust.txt.xz 

cat trust.txt | sed -f trust.sed > trust.clean
echo "digraph {" > trust.graph
cat trust.clean >>trust.graph
echo "};" >> trust.graph

# make a simple graph
twopi trust.graph -Tpng > trust.png
xdg-open trust.png

# cleanup
rm trust.txt trust.clean trust.graph

[Neotox]

Sweet. A simple grep <username> for Neotox:

Code:

defcon23->Neotox
Argwai96->Neotox

thanks for sharing, but can you tell me where you found this info?

using the link https://bitcointalk.org/trust20150516.txt.xz
I can't find my username in this file, so want to know where and how you got this info

[tspacepilot]

Sweet. A simple grep <username> for Neotox:

Code:

defcon23->Neotox
Argwai96->Neotox

thanks for sharing, but can you tell me where you found this info?

using the link https://bitcointalk.org/trust20150516.txt.xz
I can't find my username in this file, so want to know where and how you got this info

I downloaded https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz and I find you in there just like Shorena, using grep:

Code:

tsp@computer:~/trustgraph$ cat trust.txt | grep "Neotox"
defcon23->Neotox
Argwai96->Neotox

The trust.txt.xz without a timestamp in the filename has a file datestamp of 11 Sep.

Code:

-rw-r--r--   1 tsp tsp  64K Sep 11 19:52 trust.txt.xz

The one you refer to seems to have the date 16 May in the filename so I think it's an old one.

[Neotox]

Sweet. A simple grep <username> for Neotox:

Code:

defcon23->Neotox
Argwai96->Neotox

thanks for sharing, but can you tell me where you found this info?

using the link https://bitcointalk.org/trust20150516.txt.xz
I can't find my username in this file, so want to know where and how you got this info

I downloaded https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz and I find you in there just like Shorena, using grep:

Code:

tsp@computer:~/trustgraph$ cat trust.txt | grep "Neotox"
defcon23->Neotox
Argwai96->Neotox

The trust.txt.xz without a timestamp in the filename has a file datestamp of 11 Sep.

Code:

-rw-r--r--   1 tsp tsp  64K Sep 11 19:52 trust.txt.xz

The one you refer to seems to have the date 16 May in the filename so I think it's an old one.

thanks a lot, I got it
thanks for sharing the link of new trust file ,I was using old file

[Mitchell]

Neotox you must have missed this post.

https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown.

[Neotox]

Neotox you must have missed this post.

https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz
 made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown.

Oh sorry bro
yes I missed that and I was using link from first post of this second page but missed your post on first page where you shared the current trust file

thanks a lot everyone for helping, this is why I love this community, we help each others like family members

[dogie]

https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown.

*Fires up the shitty i7 rendering farm*

[zazarb]

Neotox you must have missed this post.

https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown.

If this list updated every Saturday, where it could be found? link above refers only Downloads Old.
regards
-zz

[tspacepilot]

Neotox you must have missed this post.

https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown.

If this list updated every Saturday, where it could be found? link above refers only Downloads Old.
regards
-zz

What I understand is that https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz will be the latest.  You don't find that that's the case?

[Neotox]

Neotox you must have missed this post.

https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown.

If this list updated every Saturday, where it could be found? link above refers only Downloads Old.
regards
-zz

What I understand is that https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz will be the latest.  You don't find that that's the case?

yes this is link for the latest trust list, when you visit you download latest list bydefault

[zazarb]

I checked and I can confirm you right, me has misled previous one were with date stamp.
thanks

[shorena]

I will just leave this here, might be useful for others as well.

Code:

#!/bin/bash

echo "Renaming old trust.txt to the date it was last updated..."
mv trust.txt trust.txt.$(ls -all --time-style=+%F | grep trust.txt$ | egrep -o 20[0-9][0-9]\-[0-9]{2}\-[0-9]{2})
# assumes no other file ending on trust.txt in the same directory, change 1st grep if needed

echo "Downloading new trust.txt..."
wget https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz -N #only if newer (-N)

echo "Unpacking trust.txt..."
unxz trust.txt.xz -k #keeps old file, so wget can check for updates with -N
echo "done."

exit $?

[Timelord2067]

Years ago Facebook (yeh, I said the "F" word...) has/had a program where everyone's name was placed around a circle (the name was radiating out like spokes on a wheel with a clear empty section in the middle) and a line was drawn from every person to every other person they are friends with using your own circle of friends as the names to create the circle with.

Much earlier than that I saw on a program like 60 Minutes (might have even *been* 60 mins) where Law Enforcement developed something similar - all names were feed into the data base and it showed all the connections of the people eg some results would be two crescents facing each other - each crescent linked names between itself while only one or two threads crossed from one crescent to the other. (the links from one to the other were who they targeted...)

It's the same thing that the graph on this page is trying to draw.

[dogie]

Years ago Facebook (yeh, I said the "F" word...) has/had a program where everyone's name was placed around a circle (the name was radiating out like spokes on a wheel with a clear empty section in the middle) and a line was drawn from every person to every other person they are friends with using your own circle of friends as the names to create the circle with.

Much earlier than that I saw on a program like 60 Minutes (might have even *been* 60 mins) where Law Enforcement developed something similar - all names were feed into the data base and it showed all the connections of the people eg some results would be two crescents facing each other - each crescent linked names between itself while only one or two threads crossed from one crescent to the other. (the links from one to the other were who they targeted...)

It's the same thing that the graph on this page is trying to draw.

I have absolutely no idea what your 2 month necro post was trying to say.

[Timelord2067]

[quote author=dogie link=topic=1175364.msg13506228#msg13506228 date=1452438595]
[quote author=Timelord2067 link=topic=1175364.msg13504101#msg13504101 date=1452422159]
Years ago Facebook (yeh, I said the "F" word...) has/had a program where everyone's name was placed around a circle (the name was radiating out like spokes on a wheel with a clear empty section in the middle) and a line was drawn from every person to every other person they are friends with using your own circle of friends as the names to create the circle with.

Much earlier than that I saw on a program like 60 Minutes (might have even *been* 60 mins) where Law Enforcement developed something similar - all names were feed into the data base and it showed all the connections of the people eg some results would be two crescents facing each other - each crescent linked names between itself while only one or two threads crossed from one crescent to the other. (the links from one to the other were who they targeted...)

It's the same thing that the graph on this page is trying to draw.
[/quote]

I have absolutely no idea what your 2 month necro post was trying to say.
[/quote]

Sorry about that - I meant to cut and paste this graph which was the point of my post.

[quote author=tspacepilot link=topic=1175364.msg12402016#msg12402016 date=1442083287]
Still needs some help, but here's a first image (generated with just a single command using the script above, somewhat modified):





[/quote]

[tspacepilot]

So, I made that graph using LaTeX and the PSTricks package.  It's pretty damn ugly, dogie's graphs are enormously more useful.  But anyway, LaTeX and PSTricks (psmatrix, psnode) if you were curious.