Verifing account of GLBSE discussion

[HorseRider]

Update

GLBSE.com

If you've been having problems logging in (lost your password or two-factor auth) and have contacted support, please be patient. Due to the huge volume of emails coming in I won't be able to address support emails until most bitcoin has been refunded and assets details given out. Once this is done I will address your problem and get your bitcoin and assets back to you.

Update

GLBSE now asks for no ID information. Bitcoin's are being paid back.



If you forget the password, it seems that you can recover the password here: https://glbse.com/recover


If you have lost your 2fa.... I don't know what should you do except trying contact Nefario everyday.



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GLBSE is asking for identity information, if you want your bitcoin and assets back. I personally are willingly to give my identity, but not under such a unclear status. How our identity information will be used, protected, copied?  If Nefario has a lawyer, the lawyer should state everything clearly to us.

What's your opinion on this issue? Do you have any good suggestions or idea to share? let's discuss in this thread.

if you log into GLBSE.com and submit your email and bitcoin address, then you will see this:

Verify account
To comply with money laundering regulations we must ask you to submit documents for proof of your address and identity.

Picture of your ID
Please provide a clear picture of your photo ID. For France, Germany, Spain, and English speaking countries ID cards, Passports and drivers licences are accepted, for everywhere else only passports are accepted.


User picture
Please provide a clear picture of you, holding a piece of paper with your GLBSE username and the date written on it.


Proof of address
Please provide a clear(unaltered) picture of proof of address. Tax statements or utility bills are accepted. This must clearly show your name (same as that on your ID) and address, it must also be dated within the last 3 months.

Not accepted are bank statements or bills issued electronically

[HorseRider]

For example, if I submit my identification pic, I will add a watermark saying "only used for GLBSE.com before 20121031"

[theGECK]

Do you need to provide all 3 pieces of information? For instance - my driver's license when I was in college came from a different state than my utility bills, and had a different address on it. I just moved, so I haven't bothered to go get my driver's license updated yet - does that prevent me from claiming my account if I don't have the other two?

Edit: Yes, you do. It seems like he got caught in a money laundering operation of some sort, or it was a threat of being caught up in one. Guess I can't get my securities back because it will take 2-3 weeks to update my driver's license and who knows if this site will still be operational in that amount of time.

[stochastic]

Don't give any information.  There is no agreement saying to get your bitcoins back you need to jump through these hoops.  You don't have to submit documents like this to purchase other virtual currencies or play stock market in Second Life.  This is ridiculous.  You really want to give your personal information to a scammer?  Let the remaining shareholders sue nefario for breach of contract and let them refund anyone's bitcoins.

[cytokine]

Don't give any information.  There is no agreement saying to get your bitcoins back you need to jump through these hoops.  You don't have to submit documents like this to purchase other virtual currencies or play stock market in Second Life.  This is ridiculous.  You really want to give your personal information to a scammer?  Let the remaining shareholders sue nefario for breach of contract and let them refund anyone's bitcoins.

I could not agree more. I will not give identity info because there's no reason to. I can continue my relationships with my asset issuers based on my high reputation that I have kept accurate personal records of what I own and don't own.

[niko]

I think an incompetent lawyer scared Nefario into this. Anyhow, I will provide my information once GLBSE provides privacy policy outlinining how they collect, use, and safeguard such information. Other than that, I have no problem with AML.

[Bogart]

Pirate asks for AML info before he'll give the money up. Never gives the money up.
Nefario asks for AML info before he'll give the money up. (predictable result goes here)

[gweedo]

I am not giving any ID information cause for one that wasn't in the TOS and second I don't have any ID and I don't pay utilities so obviously I can't get my coins.

[mcris444]

As a student, I do not have the proper paperwork to prove a proof of address. I do not receive tax statements or utility bills. What should I do in this situation?

I sent in an email, but they probably have 1000's of support emails to go through. Also, I am sure I am not the only person in this situation.

[Bogart]

I am not giving any ID information cause for one that wasn't in the TOS...

this

[tbcoin]

I don't see a privacy policy, request personal documentation without any data protection policy is illegal too.

[Bitcoin Oz]

I dont have an ID nor a utility bill and I get my mail at a PO box.

I dunno whats going to happen to the bitcoins that are left over.

[stochastic]

I think an incompetent lawyer scared Nefario into this. Anyhow, I will provide my information once GLBSE provides privacy policy outlinining how they collect, use, and safeguard such information. Other than that, I have no problem with AML.

This is what James McCarthy will do.  He will give all the identification information to his lawyer so when the FSA comes knocking he can claim these are the people responsible not you.  How do you know he is not going to link your personal information to any issuers that were selling pirate accounts?  How do you know he is even going to give you any of your bitcoins or claim codes to you after you send in your personal information.  Is sending the information even through encryption because I see https on their site, but there is no 3rd party confirming the SSL certificate.

Instead you should hold the other shareholders liable for what you want.  Nefario is one guy part of the BitcoinGlobal organizaiton that theymos is claiming went AWOL.  Theymos and the rest of the mystery shareholders can refund the bitcoins or claim codes to us.

[bbit]

Be careful giving up this information people can use it for other (nefario)us activities....

[stochastic]

I dont have an ID nor a utility bill and I get my mail at a PO box.

I dunno whats going to happen to the bitcoins that are left over.

I thought you were one of the shareholders of BitcoinGlobal?

[memvola]

Please provide a clear picture of you, holding a piece of paper with your GLBSE username and the date written on it.

This is humiliating, to say the least. I will not sink to this level for a thousand coins.

I will not give identity info because there's no reason to. I can continue my relationships with my asset issuers based on my high reputation that I have kept accurate personal records of what I own and don't own.

I only need proof of ownership of my shares. I already have perfectly kept personal records and a final snapshot, but it would be nice if issuers had a way to double-check, because I can understand if they don't accept my claim without further verification.

[Deprived]

Haven't seen that request, but if they're requesting personal information there's a few points they need to clear up first:

1.  If the information is for AML purposes then which AML supervisor are they registered with?  In the uK there's about 8 different supervisors, depending on the nature of your business (IF your business is one subject to the AML legislation).  The obvious one for them would be the FSA (which covers financial service providers) but there ARE others (e.g. casinos have the gambling/gaming commission).  If they're requesting information for AML purposes then they need to be registered with one of the designated supervisory bodies.

2.  If it's for AML purposes then a link please to their AML compliance policy.

3.  If not for AML purposes then what is this information going to be used for?  And how long will it be retained for?  This is information they're obligated to provide under the Data Protection Act.

4.  Irrespective of the answers above, link please to their DPA compliance policy/statement?

5.  Can GLBSE please confirm that they have professional indemnity insurance covering them against loss or misuse of clients' data.

6.  What is their intention in respect of anyone who refuses to provide the documents but requests their funds returned?  Will they just keep the money?  Report them as a suspected money launderer?  Turn their BTC over to the police?

As soon as I receive the request referred to in OP I'll be emailing requesting the above information (can't check my email right now - assume that's where it is).  If they refuse to answer the questions but persist in requesting the information then I will next send a formal request for my funds (providing my name/address but not giving any documents which would allow identity theft).

[bbit]

Please provide a clear picture of you, holding a piece of paper with your GLBSE username and the date written on it.

This is humiliating, to say the least. I will not sink to this level for a thousand coins.

I have to admit this was odd request to say the least and at the very least humiliating ...I mean who is going to do this? lol

[Bitcoin Oz]

I dont have an ID nor a utility bill and I get my mail at a PO box.

I dunno whats going to happen to the bitcoins that are left over.

I thought you were one of the shareholders of BitcoinGlobal?

Now you understand how retarded the whole thing is. I also have personal accounts on the site.

As they say, eat your own dogfood 

[kjlimo]

Meh, the rules are stupid to begin with, so I'm not surprised it seems stupid to follow them...

They have my info; let's hope they don't go stealing my identity...