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September 14, 2015, 09:16:18 AM
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The reason I say this is that in the last 20 years we have seen the hottest years on record.

Volatility has been greater perhaps but fact is we have a 21 year cooling trend and the powers-that-be been funding lies.

There is not really a cooling "trend" shown by his source.

He is drawing on all his database and knowledge.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/04/30/twenty-years-of-winter-cooling-defy-global-warming-claims/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3156594/Is-mini-ICE-AGE-way-Scientists-warn-sun-sleep-2020-cause-temperatures-plummet.html


http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/37072

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September 14, 2015, 09:23:41 AM
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The reason I say this is that in the last 20 years we have seen the hottest years on record.

Volatility has been greater perhaps but fact is we have a 21 year cooling trend and the powers-that-be have been funding lies.

And humans can't alter the climate. They can alter their environment yes. But we can't have that debate here. There is an entire thread about that in Politics & Society thread entitled something like, "Reddit bans debate on Global Warming".

The debate is uninteresting to me. Only people who haven't really studied the science or who lack IQ (or rationality and motivation) will think there is still a question on this matter. For example, the smart posters such as Spendulus and Wilikon know this.

I am saying I don't want to debate it. Waste of my time. Apologies I am not trying to be condescending to you. I hope you expend the effort I did to study. I am done on that topic. I raise your attention to the Little Ice Age that is already starting. Btw, anecdotal the weather is getting much cooler in the Philippines. Used to be so damn hot here when I first arrived in the 1990s. Now I can jog in the middle of the day. Maybe I've acclimated, but we have all these other strange effects going on such as severe drought. The USA climate is radically changing too with drought and the Pacific NorthWet is now the NorthDry. My mother in Washington State loves the change in the climate. I went into great detail about how the volatility in warming was part of the shift into global cooling some where in my archives of one of my usernames. I can't possibly go dig that up now.

Edit: a Little Ice Age is not the same as an ice age. It is sufficient lowering of temperature to cause drastic climate effects which impact food supply and natural disaster frequency. It will not be ice every where.

I don't want to get into it too much because it is a bit off-topic for the discussion so this is the last point on the particular subject.

North America, Australia and New Zealand have all seen their hottest years on record recently, I've been there and experienced that. I'm also not saying that the data of the output of the sun cycle may be wrong either because there can be both. To say we do not have an impact on the climate is still foolish, because we do but let's say he is also right about the declining output of the sun by 2030 and we receive this mini-iceage, then it would not be so severe as he thinks because it's already being heated up, even needed to restore that balance.



I don't see how this is possible when they have been planning to setup trade routes now that the ice has receded so much.

http://www.cfr.org/arctic/thawing-arctic-risks-opportunities/p32082
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September 14, 2015, 09:31:01 AM
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The reason I say this is that in the last 20 years we have seen the hottest years on record.

Volatility has been greater perhaps but fact is we have a 21 year cooling trend and the powers-that-be been funding lies.

There is not really a cooling "trend" shown by his source.

He is drawing on all his database and knowledge.

He linked a specific source. The source not only doesn't support his claim (if you read the text), it contradicts it (if you look at the graph).

His conclusion may be correct. His data in his secret database may be different. There may be all sort of supporting or contradicting evidence that can be linked from many different sources. I don't want to debate temperatures either.

I'm just saying he's either confused or bullshitting in that answer, when viewed on its own merit.
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September 14, 2015, 10:12:44 AM
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The reason I say this is that in the last 20 years we have seen the hottest years on record.

Volatility has been greater perhaps but fact is we have a 21 year cooling trend and the powers-that-be been funding lies.

There is not really a cooling "trend" shown by his source.

He is drawing on all his database and knowledge.

He linked a specific source. The source not only doesn't support his claim (if you read the text), it contradicts it (if you look at the graph).

His conclusion may be correct. His data in his secret database may be different. There may be all sort of supporting or contradicting evidence that can be linked from many different sources. I don't want to debate temperatures either.

I'm just saying he's either confused or bullshitting in that answer, when viewed on its own merit.

Armstrong is a daily programmer (he is the only one who programs his model, the other programmers only work on the peripheral code). He is busy. If you've followed him as long as I have, you will understand he refers to his entire body of knowledge when he blogs. He is not writing white papers. You are unrealistic. Doubt him at your peril. I've studied him enough to know. I am also too busy to dot all the i's and cross all the t's.

He blogs piecemeal. He is writing stream-of-consciousness. Haven't you seen me do that often too. He found a new data point that supported his other substantial data points (chart shows a peak and then lower highs, thus a trend down if so interpreted), so he blogged yet again about the global warming insanity. Putting all his past blog posts on the subject together, paints a much more complete and well documented picture.

Smooth you often lose valuable time on literal yadayada. Cut to the point. I'm glad you raised that point, so I could refute it. You don't have to feel you lost the point. Correct Armstrong blogs in a way that most people doubt him, because they don't think holistically. I understand well Armstrong because he is nearly the same as me. I don't have time to repeat every detail of every research point I did in the past. Thus I come across as arrogant when I make summary pronouncement. Sorry. It is a function of communication bandwidth. Mythical Man Month appears if I am not curt.

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September 14, 2015, 11:02:43 AM
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North America, Australia and New Zealand have all seen their hottest years on record recently, I've been there and experienced that.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/33511



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U.S. Continuous Average Temperature Index – Discontinued

The National U.S. Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) monthly temperature updates have been discontinued. The official CONUS temperature record is now based upon nClimDiv. USHCN data for January 1895 to August 2014 will remain available for historical comparison. However, one must wonder if the data, which was demonstrating a cooling period rather than global warming, was conflicting with political agendas to raise taxes based upon false information.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/35288

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Sea Ice in Arctic Sea Expanded by 33% As Earth Turns Colder

The BBC has reported that the sheer volume of Arctic sea ice increased significantly by about 33% after an unusually cool summer unfolded in 2013. Researchers confirm that the same pattern of sea ice expansion has taken place in 2014. The BBC reports that the scientists involved believe changes in summer temperatures have a greater impact on ice than previously thought. This is part of the long-term cycle. It is going to get colder in the years ahead and there will be more volatility. Those who continue to believe in global warming do so because that is what they want to believe. You cannot accept cycles in everything else, including markets, but deny that they exist in nature.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/34854

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Meanwhile, real scientists who study the cyclical movement within nature are observing what we have been warning – a coming Ice Age, not global warming. We should see the collapse in temperatures faster than we suspect, for it will mimic a Waterfall Event in our market terminology. This is the true nature of how things simply move. Real scientists are starting to warn that we will see temperatures plummet by 2030. We are entering the Maunder Minimum Petri Dish of Political Change and nobody seems to comprehend the political ramifications ahead.

During my European tour, I packed only summer closes. I had to go buy sweaters for it rarely went over 60 degrees Fahrenheit (15 Celsius). It did not get warm until I arrived in Italy and Spain.

Our model tracks everything including climate for that too is a major influence within the development of the global economy. It just seems that whatever could go wrong is going to go wrong in the coming 26 years from 2007 in many areas, so the other side of 2032.95 is going to be a different world. By the way, global warming peaked in 2007. So for all the supporter of global warming, try doing as you preach. Give up your cars and start walking.

The real problem is not global warming but global cooling. In fact, we are in crash mode. Our model confirms that as we move into the end of this current wave 2032.95, the other side of that appears to be a very serious famine that changes the political landscape as took place in the period known as the Maunder Minimum. This is a serious forecast for during the last such period, the further north you are the higher the probability of starvation. Indeed Prussia lost 40% of its population to famine at that time and Scotland lost about 15%.

Maunder Minimum is also known as the “prolonged sunspot minimum”, which was a period starting in about 1645 and continuing to about 1715 when sunspots became exceedingly rare, as noted by solar observers of the time. Consequently, based upon running the data through our model, it appears that this is crashing faster than any time previously. This would tend to warn that we may exceed the record of deaths of the 16th century and that is not good news. Yet this is just nature’s way of trimming back the population like hitting control-alt-delete in computer terms.

During the last Maunder Minimum in 17th century, longer winters and cooler summers disrupted growing seasons and destroyed harvests all across Europe. This was the coldest century in a period of glacial expansion that lasted from the early 14th century until the mid-19th century. The summer of 1641 was the third coldest recorded over the past six centuries in Europe and the winter of 1641–1642 was the coldest ever recorded in Scandinavia.

The Maunder Minimum produced an unusual cold trend that lasted from the 1620s until the 1690s most intensely and included ice on both the Bosporus and the Baltic so thick that people could walk from one side to the other. So much for global warming pundits who are putting out such bogus research it is amazing. This crowd of con artists has created such propaganda that the world population is totally unprepared; by the time they figure out these people are bullshitting everyone for grant money, it will be too late to prepare for the onslaught. We could realistically see famine reach the 33%–50% mortality level after 2032.95.

The Maunder Minimum created such a deep cold in Europe and extreme weather events elsewhere that what unfolds is a series of droughts, floods, and harvest failures. Historically, this leads to massive migrations, wars and revolutions. The fatal synergy between human and natural disasters eradicated perhaps one-third of the human population during the last event and this time we are crashing more rapidly than before. Therefore, we may exceed more than a reduction in population of one-third and reach the levels of the 14th century of 50%, which was also combined with the Black Plague.

What took place during the 17th century suggests that altered weather conditions can have catastrophic political and social consequences. Political systems are already in crash mode with BIG BANG. Add to this the crisis we see in weather cycles and the world will be augmented by unpredictable crises involving water, food, energy supply chains, and public health. States will unquestionably collapse as famine could overtake large populations and flood or disease could cross borders and lead to internal instability or international conflict.

There were three primary factors at work globally during the 17th century that combined to produce chaos. There were increases in volcanic eruptions, twice as many El Niño episodes (unusually warm ocean conditions along the tropical west coast of South America), and the virtual disappearance of sunspots, reducing solar output to warm the Earth. These three forces combined are acknowledge by real Earth science.

The 17th century saw a proliferation of wars, civil wars, rebellions, and more cases of state breakdown around the globe than any previous or subsequent age. This was the Petri Dish that brewed the revolution against the monarchy that would give birth to the American and French revolutions. In the year 1648, rebellions paralyzed both Russia (the largest state in the world) and France (the most populous state in Europe); civil wars broke out in Ukraine, England, and Scotland, and irate subjects in Istanbul (Europe’s largest city) strangled Sultan Ibrahim.

The Maunder Minimum did not cause all the catastrophes alone during the 17th century, but it most certainly exacerbated many of them. Outbreaks of disease, especially smallpox and plague, erupted as was the case during the previous episode that saw the Black Plague wipeout 50% of the population. Plagues correlate to periods when harvests are poor or have failed. When an uprising by Irish Catholics on October 23, 1641, drove the Protestant minority from their homes, no one had foreseen a severe cold snap with heavy frost and snow in a place that rarely has snow. Thousands of Protestants died of exposure, turning a political protest into a massacre that cried out for vengeance. Oliver Cromwell would later use that episode to justify his brutal campaign to restore Protestant supremacy in Ireland. This was the period of the British Civil War with the Puritans beheading Catholic King Charles I.

The Maunder Minimum did take a more direct toll as weather turned bitterly cold. Western Europe experienced the worst harvest of the century in 1648. Rioting broke out in Sicily, Stockholm, and elsewhere when bread prices spiked. In the Alps, poor growing seasons became the norm in the 1640s, and records document the disappearance of fields, farmsteads and even whole villages as glaciers advanced to the farthest extent since the last Ice Age. One consequence of crop failures and food shortages stands out in French military records: soldiers born in the second half of the 1600s were, on average, an inch shorter than those born after 1700, and those born in the famine years were noticeably shorter than the rest.

The Maunder Minimum impacted the entire planet for very few areas of the world survived the 17th century unscathed by extreme weather. Even in China, a combination of droughts and disastrous harvests, coupled with rising tax demands and cutbacks in government programs, unleashed a wave of banditry and chaos; starving Manchu clansmen from the north undertook a brutal conquest that lasted a generation.  In 1644, peasant rebels led by Li Zicheng conquered the Ming capital in Beijing. Rather than serve them, Ming general Wu Sangui made an alliance with the Manchus and opened the Shanhai Pass to the Banner Armies led by Prince Dorgon, who defeated the rebels and seized Beijing. The conquest of China was not complete until 1683 under the Kangxi Emperor (r. 1661–1722).

North America and West Africa both experienced famines and savage wars. In India, drought followed by floods killed over a million people in Gujarat between 1627 and 1630. In Japan, a mass rebellion broke out on the island of Kyushu following several poor harvests. Five years later, famine, followed by an unusually severe winter, killed perhaps 500,000 Japanese.

The famines that hit India wiped out millions, weakening the population and the economy, whereas India had been the financial capital of the world after the Byzantine Empire’s collapse in 1453 to the rise of Islam. Following this devastating Maunder Minimum period of the 1600s, we can see that India fell as the financial capital of the world, handing that crown to China. India was ripe for the picking. In the first half of the 18th century, the British were a trading presence at certain points along the coast of India. From the 1750s, the British began to wage war on land in eastern and southeastern India. To reap the reward of successful warfare, which was the exercise of political power notably over the rich province of Bengal. By the end of the century, British rule consolidated over the first conquests and extended up the Ganges valley to Delhi and over most of the peninsula of southern India. The British then turned to China and eventually established Hong Kong, which was handed back in 1998.

No human intervention can avert the Maunder Minimum or volcanic eruptions, halt an El Niño episode or delay the onset of drought, despite the possibility that each could cause starvation, economic dislocation, and political instability. So sorry, I do not ask for donations to prevent this from unfolding. We do possess both the resources and the technology to prepare for them. It is possible to grow food in your basement without land. Hydroponics may become a very valuable asset.

In the 17th century, the fatal synergy of weather, wars, and rebellions, killed millions amounting to about one-third of the population. A natural catastrophe of analogous proportions today would kill billions. It would also produce dislocation and violence, and compromise international security, sustainability and cooperation. Country borders will likely change or vanish altogether. This is part of our forecast on why the USA will break-up after 2032.95.

So while we argue over global warming, we should look at history rather than fake research that attributes everything to the invention of the combustion engine at the start of the 20th century and respect that there just may be long-term cycles at work that can be documented from real data. If history repeats, the global warming crowd will be the first to go since they will be totally unrepentant and unprepared.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/33435

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2008 Forecast: NYC Will Be Under Water by June 2015 – Oops

Seven years ago, ABC News reported a dire forecast on global warming, claiming that scientists predicted that New York City would be under water by June 2015. Well, they also predicted gasoline would be over $9 a gallon and a carton of milk would be almost $13. Well, hope you didn’t have call options on oil, eggs, and milk.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/31175



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Global Warming Stopped 16 Years Ago

The Daily Mail released the numbers, showing all along that this idea of global warming has been just a natural cycle. London used to be horrible to live in during the summer, when the buses spewed out black exhaust. Today all the buses run on electric or natural gas, and to a large extent, the improved air quality has restored the city. However, that is distinctly different from actually altering the entire planet.

Traveling around Europe on this tour, I personally packed summer clothes but found myself needing to buy warmer things to wear, and should have brought a coat. It was unseasonably cool and did not become warm until I hit Spain. We are moving back toward colder weather, not hotter. The Daily Mail Wrote:

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The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week. The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.

This means that the ‘plateau’ or ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996. Before that, temperatures had been stable or declining for about 40 years.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/29939

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Climate Change – A Fraud to Justify More Taxes

The global climate change crowd really needs to be imprisoned. They have been deliberately creating a giant fraud that is just amazing. The low in the energy output of the sun was during the late 1700s. They have attributed everything to man and ignored long historical evidence that demonstrates that there is a cyclical beat to the sun, just as there is to your heart.

Anyone with a background in electrical engineering can tell you the difference between DC (direct current) and AC (alternating current) is straightforward. AC is adding a cycle to the energy that can be transmitted over distances. DC is a constant output at one level. As in economics, where people want to eliminate the boom and bust cycle to create a DC economic world. The problem is that resistance will wear down the current, and as soon as it declines ever so slightly, it ceases to function.

Everything in the universe functions to a cyclical beat. That is the supreme design of everything. This is not the Theory of Everything – it is the Fact of Everything. The global warming con artists are clever, but reveal either their stupidity or their total dishonesty. There is no in-between here. If they have not done their research historically beyond 1800 AD, then they are complacent, or have done so and are trying to find post-1800s examples to suit their tactic to get money.

So they are either stupid or criminal, but it is starting to look like the latter. A commission is starting to investigate their manipulation of data to adjust it like the government does to CPI, unemployment, and GDP. The British newspaper, the Telegraph, has led the charge in exposing the duplicity of the global warming crowd. I for one, think that they should be criminally prosecuted for what they have done.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/29858

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Duke University Disagrees with Global Warming

Duke University has parted from the other universities who benefit from collecting money to further global warming theories. Duke has done what I have argued, they conducted a study based on 1,000 years of temperature records. They analyzed the whole thing and compared it to the most severe emissions scenarios by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). What they discovered is simply that global warming has not happened as fast as expected. The research claims that natural variability in surface temperatures over the course of a decade can account for increases and dips in warming rates. Hence, this is not a man-made trend.

Unfortunately, everything we have input into our computer warned that we were turning back down toward colder weather – not warming. On this score, Duke University seems to be far more objective than those seeking to create propaganda for global warming that the government can use as the excuse to raise taxes.




To say we do not have an impact on the climate is still foolish, because we do

If you study science, you will realize you speak nonsense.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/34854

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No human intervention can avert the Maunder Minimum or volcanic eruptions, halt an El Niño episode or delay the onset of drought, despite the possibility that each could cause starvation, economic dislocation, and political instability. So sorry, I do not ask for donations to prevent this from unfolding. We do possess both the resources and the technology to prepare for them. It is possible to grow food in your basement without land. Hydroponics may become a very valuable asset.


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When Mount St Helens erupted, President Ronald Reagan made this comment:

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“I have flown twice over Mount St. Helens out on our West Coast. I’m not a scientist and I don’t know the figures, but I have a suspicion that that one little mountain has probably released more sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere of the world than has been released in the last ten years of automobile driving or things of that kind that people are so concerned about.”

President Ronald Reagan, 1980

Reagan was right because automobiles principally emit carbon compounds, such as carbon monoxide, and nitrous oxides. Sulfur dioxide is not a problem with auto emissions. According to the US Geological Society untainted by the Global Warming/Climate Change Crowd, said:

“An estimated 1.5 million metric tons of sulfur dioxide gas was discharged by Mount St. Helens during the explosive eruption of 18 May 1980. Thus, approximately 2 million metric tons of sulfur dioxide was released during the whole eruption sequence.”

Consequently, there are two problems with the data. Even the EPA admits it cannot accurately attribute how much greenhouse gas is naturally created v man. If we add together the massive release of sulfur dioxide that occurred from Mount St. Helens when it erupted, along with the likely gas eruption before and after for five years on either side of the eruption, Reagan’s claim that he had “a suspicion that that one little mountain has probably released more sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere of the world than has been released in the last ten years of automobile driving” appears to be fairly close to accurate, and this was just his guess.

It appears that we would enter a White Earth Effect and die as a planet if the volcanic activity ceased. That is the source of warming up the planet again when the sun turns down. Sure, man may add to volatility, but we by no means possess the power to change the climate cycle. There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO proof the the long-term 300 years cycle has changed. People who believe this nonsense should not read this blog for you you must also be a deep-rooted Marxist and believe all the BS of governments. If you buy into that, you might as well buy into everything they say.  Only an idiot can possibly think we have the capacity to alter the universe or how it functions. We are incapable of even grasping all the variables at play.

If you have a basement, you can grow your own food without land and this may be the next hot trend.


but let's say he is also right about the declining output of the sun by 2030 and we receive this mini-iceage, then it would not be so severe as he thinks because it's already being heated up, even needed to restore that balance.

That is not the way it works. You do not have Armstrong's historical database on what really happens.



I don't see how this is possible when they have been planning to setup trade routes now that the ice has receded so much.

http://www.cfr.org/arctic/thawing-arctic-risks-opportunities/p32082

You trust Rockefeller's Council on Foreign Relations  Huh

He one of the key powers-that-be that have been funding environmentalism nonsense, global warming lies, and feminism movement that destroyed the West.

Westerners are so entirely indoctrinated into lies and falsehoods and that is why the West will collapse.

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September 14, 2015, 11:07:52 AM
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rptelia is the main supporter
i guess he got paid well
what a scam

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rptelia is the main supporter
i guess he got paid well
what a scam

Main supporter of what?

My work? No he (correct spelling rpietila) hasn't given our group any funding for this project. If he did in the future, that wouldn't change the fact that he has not yet.

Please if you are going to make a statement, be sure of your facts, because libel is civil offense that can be sued in court.

If you elevate your attacks to Cyberstalking, that is a criminal offense, at least in the USA.

What is a scam? I have already explained in great detail upthread there is no solicitation of funds from the general public. There was only one angel investor thus far and nothing has been promoted as a coin for sale in any open markets. So please define what and why you think something is a scam? I started to do some open sourcing development on some aspects of my work. Meaning I started to open up a bit and talk about some aspects. I don't see how that makes a scam.

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the scammer just nuked my post there.
he wanted to originally spread his shit using bitmessage so the individuals wouldnt contact each other. here is the log:

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I am contacting you because you have recently demonstrated interest in a certain altcoin project.

I am not one of the technical experts working on the project, I am just a middle man relaying messages between the team and potential angel investors. With that in mind, I will try to answer any questions you have to the best of my ability, and if I don't know the answer, I will consult the programmers or the controlling group and get back to you.

This arrangement has been put in place in order to allow the developers to fully focus on implementation instead of communication, as the tools to communicate privately are cumbersome and not usable on all development environments and locations - which as it happens is one of the things this project aims to fix!

I assume you have already read most of the relevant posts on the forums. There probably won't be any more public posts about the project until the launch gets nearer, so let's keep the communications in Bitmessage. I will create an account in the forums just in case you happen to lose your Bitmessage keys or it stops working or there is some other urgency, and will let you know when I have registered one.

If you happen to know personal details of any of the people involved with the project, considering the nature of the project and the things it could potentially accomplish, it would be appreciated if those details would be kept out of the discussions. If any of those people give an ok to release the info at some point, then that changes things, but as long as we don't have clear approval let's honor their right to privacy. Also, please keep everything we share and discuss with you to yourselves, including technical and financial details, as the consequences of the competition piecing leaked details together and getting the same sort or revelations our expert programmers have had could be disastrous.

In the near future I will detail a simple procedure to get near complete communication anonymity using air gapped Raspberry Pi/Pi2, which you can opt to use if you wish to have maximum privacy regarding your possible involvement in the project. Also there will be proof that I am messaging on behalf of the party that you think I am.

[Sent to multiple recipients]

Good questions! Some answers:

1. There will be a post in the forums from the user you have been following which will contain an encrypted "password" I will send you before the actual post. I have not yet received the password so the post hasn't been made yet. I will send a bitmessage to you all when I get the password, along with the instructions to decrypt the password from the post that will be made.

2. This I don't know yet. I would imagine angel investments could be needed all the way up until the public ICO, which is likely 4 to 6 months away still.

3. This is unknown as well. The intent is to use as little angel investment as possible, and request funds when they are actually needed. For example to pay salary for developers or crypto/math experts. If a developer wants weekly salary, then angel investors could send the payment to the developer once a week until the job is done. There could also be other needs, but the total amount is unknown at this point. What we need eventually though, is commitment to invest, so it will be known before the funds are needed that there will actually be funds.

4. The number of potential investors is between 5 and 10, and the amount you said appears to be close the median. It is a good amount as it wouldn't be an ideal situation to have one or two huge whales owning too large % of the coin.

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Thanks for your message. I understand everything, but I have some questions:

1. How can I be sure you are the one involved in the project?
2. When will the angelinvest-period end? In other words: until when can I invest and be part of it?
3. How many USD are you aiming for as an investment?
4. How many investors said the are interested in investing and how many USD do they want to invest.

I want to invest at least USD 3000.

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[Sent to multiple recipients]

I am contacting you because you have recently demonstrated interest in a certain altcoin project.

I am not one of the technical experts working on the project, I am just a middle man relaying messages between the team and potential angel investors. With that in mind, I will try to answer any questions you have to the best of my ability, and if I don't know the answer, I will consult the programmers or the controlling group and get back to you.

This arrangement has been put in place in order to allow the developers to fully focus on implementation instead of communication, as the tools to communicate privately are cumbersome and not usable on all development environments and locations - which as it happens is one of the things this project aims to fix!

I assume you have already read most of the relevant posts on the forums. There probably won't be any more public posts about the project until the launch gets nearer, so let's keep the communications in Bitmessage. I will create an account in the forums just in case you happen to lose your Bitmessage keys or it stops working or there is some other urgency, and will let you know when I have registered one.

If you happen to know personal details of any of the people involved with the project, considering the nature of the project and the things it could potentially accomplish, it would be appreciated if those details would be kept out of the discussions. If any of those people give an ok to release the info at some point, then that changes things, but as long as we don't have clear approval let's honor their right to privacy. Also, please keep everything we share and discuss with you to yourselves, including technical and financial details, as the consequences of the competition piecing leaked details together and getting the same sort or revelations our expert programmers have had could be disastrous.

In the near future I will detail a simple procedure to get near complete communication anonymity using air gapped Raspberry Pi/Pi2, which you can opt to use if you wish to have maximum privacy regarding your possible involvement in the project. Also there will be proof that I am messaging on behalf of the party that you think I am.

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What ever the angel investors are investing before we get to the ICO phase, they will get M / 2 + 1 buying power at the ICO on the weighted average ICO price. M is the number of months between when the investment has been placed and the beginning of the ICO. There will be multiple ICOs, i.e. it will be a "Trickle ICO", where buyers can place bids to buy batches of coins while seeing other buyers' bids.

The weighted average ICO price will be set by the moment when which they agree to receive coins. So all ICOs up to that point will factor into their weighted average price. So thus they can decide which ICOs might be too small and not represent the market price. They can decide to wait to see if future ICOs are lower price. But they can't revert to the prior time once they've decided to wait longer to convert to coins. It is simpler this way than having the angel investors bidding at the ICO auctions with the other buyers, because the bidding will likely involve some sort of collateral or escrow to prevent fake bids.

So for example, an investment of $3,000 is made 3 months before the ICO. The investor will then get coins from the ICO for total of $3,000 * (3 / 2 +1) = $3,000 * 2.5 = $7,500

Chart for $1,000 investment:
6 months: $4,000
5 months: $3,500
4 months: $3,000
3 months: $2,500
2 months: $2,000
1 month: $1,500

As the aim is to take funding when it's needed, and it could be needed on weekly basis (depending on if additional programmers or experts are hired who want to be paid weekly) all the way up until the ICO, not everyone can go all-in at the beginning for the maximum M. On the other hand, the visibility increases and risk for the investor diminishes the closer we get to the launch.

If there is anything unclear, please let me know and I will try to explain better.

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As the SEC has a stance against unregistered ICOs, it is imperative that no communication outside Bitmessage is made that implies any specific individuals as being involved in the project. This offers plausible deniability. It would be best if we avoided mentioning any specific names even in Bitmessage, especially if you are using Windows computers to write those messages.

In other news, a very prominent programmer and notable member of the bitcointalk forums experienced in the technology that is needed is contemplating to join the project as a developer. He is earning up to $20,000 a month by doing work outside the crypto scene, but raising that much money at this stage is not what we want (the M factor would cause the angel investors to own too large % of the coin). There are ongoing discussions and negotiations to get him to accept coins (perhaps some part in coins some part in BTC even) until the first ICO where we'd like to raise $100,000, after which he could be paid in $ (or BTC) to finish the work getting to the main net and launch. The first ICO is likely to be held when the coin gets to testnet so there's something for people to play with and see it's not just vaporware, and the plan is to get there as fast as possible, with as little expenses as possible.

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Instuctions for a cheap option to employ an air gapped computer (i.e. a computer without internet connection that is not infected with spyware) for maximum privacy and security.

The plan in short is to use Raspberry Pi2 to write and encrypt messages, and then use another computer with internet connection and Bitmessage (BM) to send the encrypted message. And when receiving encrypted BM messages, to move the message to Pi2, decrypt and read it there. At no point are the messages in decrypted (plain text) format on the computer that is connected to the internet.

Note that using this method is not mandatory, but strictly optional for those who want maximum privacy regarding their possible involvement with the project. It can also be useful for storing cold wallets and other sensitive information.

These instructions assume you have a Linux computer with an internet connection, but using Windows or Mac should also be easy. I'll try this procedure using a Windows PC as well and write instructions if you happen to have Windows and can't get this done on your own.


You will need
  - Pi2 (and a power adapter, and an HDMI cable if you don't already have one spare)
  - quality microSD card (class 10, 8GB is recommended) for the operating system
  - another microSD card for transferring files between the air gapped Pi2 and internet facing computer, quality not important
  - two new USB microSD card readers, one for the Pi2 and one for the internet computer
  - new USB keyboard
  - new USB mouse

You might order a Pi2 starter kit from amazon, for example this one: http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Model-Starter-Case--Power-Supply/dp/B00TFV5QTA which comes with a handy case that protects your Pi2 from damage. If you order a kit with more stuff in it, such as a Wi-Fi adapter, then do not insert the Wi-Fi adapter into the Pi2 as we want it to never have been connected to any network.

Be very careful not to mix the USB card readers - never stick a USB device into the Pi2 that has been used on any other computer! If the readers are identical, use a marker or sticker or tape to identify them. This goes for the keyboard and the mouse as well. Buy new microSD reader, new keyboard and mouse, and use them only on the Pi2. Spyware can infect all USB devices, and the air gapped computer needs to stay clean.

Also don't bother ordering the pre-installed NOOBS card, unless you get lucky, you will probably just get a corrupted cheapo sd card with the NOOBS on it that the Pi2 can't even read. That happened to me, and I bought a quality class 10 microSD and put Ubuntu MATE on it and it's working flawlessly so far.


Download and install Ubuntu MATE

Using your internet facing computer, go to https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/

Download the image, insert the class 10 microSD card into the USB card reader, and insert the reader into the internet computer.

Open a terminal window (use shortcut key CTRL+ALT+T or open it from the menu), and go to the folder you downloaded the image into:
  cd ~/Downloads
Extract the downloaded .img.bz2 archive to get the image file by typing this command into the terminal window:
  bunzip2 ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi-2.img.bz2

Check where the microSD is mounted by typing this command:
  lsblk
In my case the microSD was mounted on sdc, this depends on your particular system.

Write the image file to the microSD card as root by typing this command:
  sudo dd bs=1M if=ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi-2.img of=/dev/sdX
  (where the sdX is the microSD device name you verified using the lsblk command, for example sdc)

Writing the image will create a 4 GB partition on the micro SD card. It can be resized after the Ubuntu MATE installation is complete.

Remove the microSD from the USB card reader, and insert it into the Pi2's microSD slot (do not use the USB reader for this). Plug the Pi2's power cord in, and it will boot. Follow the Ubuntu MATE installation instructions, it is very easy. When the installer asks for user name, there is an option to encrypt your home folder. Do this, so if you lose your microSD card or it gets confiscated, at least your files in your home folder should be unreadable by anyone else.


Once the Ubuntu MATE operating system is installed and booted up, we can resize the system drive to its full capacity. Open a terminal window (use shortcut key CTRL+ALT+T or open it from the menu), and type the following command:
  sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0

The fdisk application will open, and a list of choices is presented. Delete the second partition by clicking 'd' and '2', then re-create it using the default values by clicking 'n', 'p', '2', 'enter', and 'enter', and finally write the changes and exit by clicking 'w'. There might be an error "re-reading the partition table failed: device or resource busy", but that doesn't matter, just ignore it.

Reboot the Pi2, and after it has booted up, open the terminal window again, and type the following command:
  sudo resize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p2

Now you should have the full capacity of the SD card available.


I will detail how to actually use the air gapped computer to send and read messages next.

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These are the instructions for encrypting and decrypting messages on the air gapped computer such as the Pi2. Do not generate any keys on a computer that has been connected to any network or has had any USB devices plugged in that have been pluggin into other devices!

Again, this is optional for those who care a great deal about their information security.


# Generating encryption keys on the air gapped computer

  # You will need a public key which we will
  # use to send you encrypted content that
  # only you will be able to decrypt.
  # Using your air gapped computer, generate
  # a new key:
  gpg --gen-key

  # Follow the instructions, and select 1 for RSA,
  # 4096 for the key length, 0 for non-expiring key,
  # and when it asks for your real name, just make
  # up a name you'd like us to see, but please don't
  # use "anon" or "anonymous" or "user" because the
  # list of keys will get confusing when we import
  # your keys and have 10 keys called "anonymous"
  # there. You can leave email address and comment
  # fields empty. Then select O to save and start
  # generating the key (it will take a while). Also
  # make sure you don't forget the password that is
  # needed to protect your private key.

  # When the key is ready, export the public key
  # to a text file:
  gpg --export --armor > pubkey.asc

  # Plug the microSD card that is used to transfer
  # files between the air gapped computer and the
  # internet computer into the USB microSD card
  # reader, and plug the reader into the USB slot
  # of the air gapped computer. Do not mix the USB
  # readers - dedicate one reader for the Pi2 and
  # one reader for the internet computer.

  # Then copy the pubkey.asc to the microSD card:
  cp pubkey.asc /media/yourusername/sdcardname

  # Next eject the USB card reader (or shut down
  # the Pi2) and remove the microSD card from the
  # reader, walk the microSD card to the internet
  # computer, open the pubkey.asc, and copy-paste
  # the contents into a bitmessage and send that
  # to me.


# Sending from the air gapped computer

  # You will need my public key to encrypt the message.
  # When you have your air gapped computer ready, request
  # the key from me, and I will send the key to you in a
  # bitmessage. Copy-paste the key into a text file, copy
  # the file to microSD, walk the microSD to the air
  # gapped computer, and import the key:
  gpg --import pubkey.asc

  # Now check that you have my key imported:
  gpg --list-keys
 
  # You should see an entry with the name "Altcoin Project"

  # Write your message you want to send me into a text
  # file, and encrypt the text file using my public key:
  gpg -e --s2k-cipher-algo AES256 --s2k-digest-algo SHA512 message.txt
 
  # It will ask you to enter the user ID whose key to use to encrypt
  # the file. Type "Altcoin Project" (without the quotes), and hit enter.
  # If will ask for confirmation, just answer "y", and for other
  # recipients, just hit enter to finish.

  # Next, encode the encrypted file to ASCII:
  base64 message.txt.gpg > message.txt.gpg.b64

  # Copy the encoded file to the microSD, walk the microSD
  # to the internet computer, and copy-paste the file's
  # contents to Bitmessage.


# Receiving

  # Copy-paste the encrypted text from Bitmessage to a text
  # file message.txt.gpg.b64. Copy the file to microSD, walk
  # the microSD to the air gapped computer, copy the file
  # from the microSD to the air gapped computer's drive
  # (do not decrypt the file to the microSD!)
 
  # Decode the ASCII file:
  base64 -d message.txt.gpg.b64 > message.txt.gpg

  # Decrypt the file (you will need your previously set
  # password of your private key to be able to decrypt)
  gpg -d message.txt.gpg > message.txt

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I don't mind trying to answer at all, that's what I'm here for. I will relay questions to someone who knows if I'm unable to answer.

[1] There are no set dates or set amounts regarding funding yet. This is because the negotiations with additional programmers are still ongoing. We don't want to take money just for the sake of taking it, but when it is actually needed. This will both reduce the risk for the investors, and for the controlling group as well as they don't have to spend energy on managing and holding actual funds, not to mention the additional liabilities that would bring. But we are getting good information on the number of people interested in investing, so this helps to plan the project ahead. We are trying to get some concrete numbers for you soon and I will let you know as soon as I have them.

[2] At this time it looks like BTC will be used for payments. Any altcoin could also be used to send BTC by using services such as ShapeShift.io. Currently the plan is that the investors will pay directly to contractors, so when a payment is needed, I will get a BTC address and amount from the controlling group (and I suspect also what the payment is used for), and will relay that info to you.

The white papers for network consensus and anonymity are currently being finalized, and some coding has already been done. The coding will soon proceed full speed, which also means the amount of work left and funding needed will become more clear.

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Hi,

Just wanted to confirm I've received all the messages from you. I've got a couple of minor questions, I hope you don't mind answering them.

[1] When does the pre-ICO peroid start? Am I already able to invest? I know you said not everyone is able to go all-in at the start, but having some kind of startdate would be nice.

[2] If I understood correctly, BTC is currently the only viable payment method? How do I obtain details for an investment payment?

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174653.0




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the scammer just nuked my post there.
he wanted to originally spread his shit using bitmessage so the individuals wouldnt contact each other. here is the log:

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[Sent to multiple recipients]

I am contacting you because you have recently demonstrated interest in a certain altcoin project.

...

I did not write nor send the quoted message. That is not my writing style. Have you confirmed that person is affiliated with me in any way? What is your proof? Where did that person get your Bitmessage address? I know that I PM'ed some people who asked me in private if they could find out more information from me, and I told them to put their Bitmessage address on their profile and they would be contacted if it was time to share more information or collect potential angel investors. However, where is your proof that I am connected with the message you quote above?

Again I warned you to stop spreading libel unless you have proof.

Also I ask you again what is the scam you allege? Even if reading the above message you quoted, I can't see any scam in that message except if that person is pretending to be affiliated with my project and actually isn't. And if the latter case was alleged that the above message is not affiliated with my project, I am not culpable nor affiliated with such a scam. In the former case that it was assumed that above message is affiliated with my project, I do not see any scam in the message.

Any more FUDsters going to swing and strikeout?

P.S. yes ion.cash deleted your message from his (my) thread, because he said he would delete all such noise. You can bring your FUD to this FUD thread where I have addressed your FUD. Aren't you are VanillaCoin (VNL) supporter who has decided to attack me?

Edit: I absolutely would not be affiliated with any person who wrote to potential angel investors that the group was hiding any thing that the SEC had jurisdiction over. Reading that message more carefully, I don't think that could be an approved message from our controlling group. Now if some liason had been drunk or otherwise used poor judgement in the composition of a message he was entrusted to compose, it is possible someone could have misspoke. But since you have no proof that the above message is approved by me or affiliated with me, then it really doesn't matter. For sure I would very carefully review any such message before formerly affiliating with it. And in that case, I would never approve of the content of that message you quoted. Also I hope you can appreciate that the formation of a controlling group takes time and goes through some gyrations before all is is locked down and finalized. So it appears the above may be some disorganization in the controlling group in the early stages. I will be making some inquiries.

Edit#2: I haven't arsed with tracking down the corruption in VanillaCoin. I suggest you do not motivate my supporters to do so. You are not going to find corruption in my project. I will leave the project if the controlling group is doing any form of corruption.

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Looks like he's addicted to crack heavily and looks for schemes on making money to satisfy the habit

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rptelia is the main supporter
i guess he got paid well
what a scam


Please if you are going to make a statement, be sure of your facts, because libel is civil offense that can be sued in court.

If you elevate your attacks to Cyberstalking, that is a criminal offense, at least in the USA.


Are you seriously going to respond to every negative/fud comment with an accusation of cyberstalking and a threat of legal action?

Stop using this forum if this is the only way you can solve/answer your problems.

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rptelia is the main supporter
i guess he got paid well
what a scam


Please if you are going to make a statement, be sure of your facts, because libel is civil offense that can be sued in court.

If you elevate your attacks to Cyberstalking, that is a criminal offense, at least in the USA.


Are you seriously going to respond to every negative/fud comment with an accusation of cyberstalking and a threat of legal action?

Stop using this forum if this is the only way you can solve/answer your problems.

In fairness to TPTB, the thread is called "ion.cash "developer" a.k.a. Anonymint goes off the deep end."

Were you expecting a calm factual discussion?  Anything less than his usual lunacy would be false advertising.


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the scammer just nuked my post there.

Looks like he's addicted to crack heavily and looks for schemes on making money to satisfy the habit

I wonder if you realize his identity is publicly known so you're not just defaming an anonymous nick on the forums?

Unless you can prove there is a scam and drug addiction of course.
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Looks like he's addicted to crack heavily and looks for schemes on making money to satisfy the habit

Haha. You attackers are in big trouble if that is the best lies you can come up with.

I hate drugs. My entire life has been about being a strict athlete. Even my own kids hated that I always wanted them to eat vegetables.

That is so desperate, I can't imagine you've gained any credibility with such ludicrous statement as that. Can't you think of a better attack than that  Huh

Are you seriously going to respond to every negative/fud comment with an accusation of cyberstalking and a threat of legal action?

Stop using this forum if this is the only way you can solve/answer your problems.

I might get more wealthy suing people for the lies they make against my person than I would making a coin! Unfortunately these b-listers probably don't have much money to sue for.

As I said before, it might just be a sport after the fact of regaining a position of wealth should I succeed with making a successful coin, and if I feel like it. Maybe I am bored or something. Who knows. Or maybe it is good to set an example so that our community isn't so dysfunctional.

In fairness to TPTB, the thread is called "ion.cash "developer" a.k.a. Anonymint goes off the deep end."

Were you expecting a calm factual discussion?  Anything less than his usual lunacy would be false advertising.

Calm factual discussion can never occur any where you post. And that is a fact at least for every thread I've seen you post in you make always includes some attack on a person. Note I am not accusing you of libel. You are expert at condescending comments that are expressed purely as subjective opinion. Cyberstalking maybe but usually it seems you are engaging with antagonists who are willingly engaging you in mutual harassment.

Never have I seen you engage in a calm, respectful dialog.

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Many readers know I write about serious matters and I don't have time for the b-listers from the peanut gallery...

This is my first exposure to UK politics today. But I can clearly see a lackluster reaction to this speaker compared to Corbyn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTXh9NG6Dg

What is the difference. I see it. Corbyn speaks idealistically about "a better world by being respectful of betterment and each other". He represents the starry-eyed youth takeover that AnonyMint predicted. Remember AnonyMint's research into the generational cycle of change which is quoted below.

Corbyn is very dangerous. This will become an ideological movement of the Hero generation of the youth. The high unemployment due to the shift to the Knowledge Age is the problem. Too many kids taking up useless liberal arts degrees.




Brand’s excoriation of the political class felt to many like a breath of fresh air. But while Brand’s humor-infused brew of Marxism, anarchism and New Age spirituality may seem like the mere rantings of a rebellious entertainer who frequently refers to himself as a “Jungian Trickster,” I would argue he represents a more dangerous omen.

The Occupy Wall Street “movement” (if there ever was such a thing) – and emerging generations of young Americans more generally – is being led by Brand and other pied pipers away from practical reality and into an illusory “world of pure imagination”. What in 2009 had the makings of a New Deal-oriented mass strike upsurge is being steered off course by Wall Street interests in a rehash of 1968.

I did some research on Tue May 01, 2012 6:36 am (quoted below) on the Long Wave Cycle (a generational cycle) which predicts the above effect. The youth will take over after 2032, and the kind of world they will create will be one of extreme idealism. This is FDR New Deal style of dangerous. This will launch big government on a bigger scale than we had ever seen before, i.e. "international cooperation" as code word for loss of local sovereignty. The youth will put in place the U.N. Agenda 21 with a gleam in their eye as they are trained and indoctrinated now to believe for example that man-made global climate change hoax is real and is a real problem.

Here follows the research, and I urge everyone to study this carefully.


I haven't verified whether this long wave cycle principle repeats throughout history, but I assume he has, since he said he spent 10 years perfecting it:

http://www.longwavegroup.com/principle/lefi_map/lefi_map.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58qtcPst2OI

I had read an article that ties this cycle into generational cycle attitudes. I am trying to find it, as I think it explains a difference in world view between Boomers, Gen X, and Gen Y.

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Okay I found it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss-Howe_generational_theory#Defining_a_generation
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/james-quinn/2011/11/03/bad-moon-rising
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/james-quinn/the-gathering-storm

Code:
 	    Prophet      Nomad        Hero         Artist
High    Childhood Elderhood    Midlife      Young Adult
Awakening   Young Adult  Childhood    Elderhood    Midlife
Unraveling  Midlife      Young Adult  Childhood    Elderhood
Crisis      Elderhood Midlife      Young Adult  Childhood

High = Spring
Awakening = Summer
Unraveling = Fall
Crisis = Winter

Prophet = Boomers (born 1946 - 1964), 40 percent of the workforce
Nomad = Gen X (born 1965 - 1979), 16 percent of the workforce
Hero = Gen Y (born 1980 - 1994), 25 percent of the workforce
Artist = Gen Z (born 1995+)

Boomers = vision, values, and religion (loyalty, idealistic, entitled)
Nomad = liberty, survival and honor (survival, pragmatic, alienated)
Hero = community, affluence, and technology (order, righteous, protected)
Artist = expertise and due process (continuity, flexible, overprotected)

Some links on different attitudes between the current generations:

http://www.reliableplant.com/Read/2431/boomers-generations
http://jojackson.suite101.com/veterans-baby-boomers-gen-x-gen-y-and-gen-z-a185353
http://www.enotes.com/soc/discuss/what-different-characteristics-generation-x-e-90271

I made some interesting comments here:

http://relativisticobserver.blogspot.com/2012/03/hackers-part-3.html?showComment=1335903496830#c239549748064135439

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I presented the generational research in the Transparency blog, which explains why we are not going to agree on the use of the government to enforce values:

http://relativisticobserver.blogspot.com/2012/04/transparency-way-of-future.html?showComment=1335900204476#c1703906618219560883

At least we can be rational about understanding why we have different political philosophies.

We Gen X did not grow up entitled. We have to struggle on our own to get where we are. We don't feel entitled, and thus we are not stakeholders in the society that the Boomers built. We trust the free market, because that is what we were dealing with on our own. Social security won't be there for us. The boomers took more than all (debt every where). We've had to scrap and negotiate hard to get some. And instead of giving back to us now the peace of individual freedom that we want, they want to put their value system on us (which will continue to escalate the wars).

So there is conflict ahead.

The Heros are going to rebuild new institutions and fighting the wars to tear down the current corrupt ones. We Nomads are caught in the cross-fire and just trying to find a way to not get squeezed out. Thus we have no choice but to discard the social contract, as it won't be rebuilt in time for us.

http://relativisticobserver.blogspot.com/2012/04/transparency-way-of-future.html?showComment=1335900204476#c1703906618219560883

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So now we can understand why boomer's (you) politics are loyalty, enforcing idealistic values, and maintaining entitlements.

And Gen X's (me) politics are liberty, pragmatic survival, individualism (honor), and distrust of values and institutions. I am libertarian anarchist. So trying to convince me that the entitled state should enforce values, is like me telling you that we should privatize the government.

Fascinating.

It explains why we are going to disagree about any political/social topics, such as Hackers, Transparency, media's role in society, etc..

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Some useful tables (although I think this deviates in some cases from the generational theory in the prior comment):

http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/james-quinn/2011/11/03/bad-moon-rising

The Boomers (elders) and Heros (youth) are archtypes and will be at odds. Boomers will judge them to have threatened values (remember the Heros are protected), yet ironically the above link claims the Boomers did more drugs, volunteered less, have lower college education, and higher teen pregnancy than the Heros do.






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If the people can't win on a local level, then it means any proposed solution will be supporting loss of local sovereignty. You simply can't amass resources collectively and avoid the corruption of the power vacuum of democracy. Understanding Mancur Olson's (in his book The Logic Of Collective Action) thesis is fundamental to understanding where we are and are headed:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=984 (Some Iron Laws of Political Economics)

Thus you see the ultimate outcome of this country-by-country uprising is to turn over control to those who have the levers of control (over the power vacuum) in the wider-scale collective, e.g. the USA, EU, Russian bloc, subservient Asia bloc (China).

And you can thus see it will culminate with war and then ending war with socialist "international cooperation". I refer readers to my prior post about the Long Wave Generational Cycle, and how the youth will take control 2032ish after a widespread chaos, and they will be indoctrinated with "international cooperation" themes (from their state schools, facebook, mass media, etc) such as the man-made global warming hoax.

So the end game of all of this is reset of the global order, discrediting local sovereignty, and awarding control the wider-scale globalists who will have the youth movement in their back pocket, just as they did in the 1960s in the USA.

And so tell me there isn't a globalist agenda and it is all just random chance that such as global order outcome is inevitable?

Now is there any other possible solution? Yes there is, and that is anonymous crypto-currency to defund the globalist beast. But this won't scale fast enough to derail the beast entirely. It can displace a portion of the beast.

So what is really happening in a bigger picture perspective? I explained this is the death of passive capital. The globalist beast is moving to higher economies-of-scale, because it is being made irrelevant by the death of the Industrial Age and the rise of the Knowledge Age, see following linked explanations:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495527.msg6103426#msg6103426
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557732.msg6077596#msg6077596 (read all my posts from this one going downthread)

We have two competing yet coexistent trends. The political-industrial passive capitalists (fascists) are consolidating power because their paradigm is an economic dinosaur which is being displaced by the competing trend. The competing trend is the rise of individual knowledge and power to reach the market and produce directly from one's brain (and computer).

So on the one hand we will see a rise in consolidation of global hegemony, Orwellian technocracy, and multi-national corporate fascism and massive decline in economic production, while only the other hand we will see the 'hackers' (the broader definition meaning knowledge worker) break away in a sub-economy and we will see much chaos and rapid economic growth in this subspace.

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Now, this is the sequence of events. Yes, you can create a conspiracy and say Goldman, CIA, and Safra all coordinated together to accomplish this. But the more likely than not truth, it is a sequence of independent events one step at a time that cascades into a mess they never foresaw.

Then please explain why Goldman has its tentacles throughout the EU fuckfest. You even noted that the creation of the EU was designed to be flawed. Is that random? No! It was by design.

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This is where the conspiracy buffs go wrong. They create false images of all-powerful groups that mysteriously manipulate the world for purposes that vary between world dominance to just greed. They cannot see that these are separate groups colliding and at times fighting among each other.

Martin you understand statistics. What is the probability of that level of integration by Goldman due to random orthogonal events and greed. ROUGHLY ZERO.

I am tired of this nonsense. Armstrong is smarter than this. I don't know why he can't do some actual research and overcome his confirmation bias. Obstinance?

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I do not see how it is possible to have some unified secret group that everyone agrees and extended for hundreds of years. This is inconsistent with human nature.

Because there is a power vacuum of democracy and it must be filled. You should understand thermodynamics.

This vested interest binds them together, because they can't win control of that power vacuum otherwise.

This is entirely consistent with nature.

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Now look at Ukraine. These conspiracy theorists just have to denigrate the people and presume it is some CIA plot so nobody cares about them. The people are incidental to them and incapable of rising up on their own. They deny human nature exists yet yell there is some all-powerful group to which I am blind. To them, the American Revolution and French Revolution are propaganda and the people were never capable of rising up on their own. They not only fail to understand politics yet claim to know everything about it without ever stepping behind the curtain to witness anything.

Armstrong is conflating orthogonal issues again. I am empathizing with the plight of the Ukrainians, but there is nothing we can do to help them, because we would be merely fighting for the elite and helping the manipulation. The only way for Ukrainians to win is either to have armed themselves with a gun under every blade of grass like in the USA, or for some technological solution to come which enables them to side-step (opt-out) of the power vacuum of democracy, i.e. defund the taxation and political-industrial complex.

And those prior revolutions were also manipulated for outcomes which favored the elite. We would need to get into a deep study of history to debate that, and I don't have time right now. I do believe there was more chaos at that time, because communication and travel was slower thus the chance we see now with anonymous crypto-currency was instead at the time taking the form of distance from the powers-that-be in Europe in the case of the American Revolution.

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These people project nothing but speculation connecting dysfunctional groups and linking them to statements of David Rockefeller to justify as proof. This idea of a one world government would eliminate war is stupidity. But it was behind the drive to create a Federalized Europe. Nevertheless, that is not proof that some group controls the world.

Armstrong also has nothing but speculation, at least I have provided volumes of evidence.

The difference now is that global technocracy is a reality and they can track everything. You bring the idealistic youth onboard and they will create an EU style fuckfest "international cooperation" for the entire world. And Rockefeller et al will have achieved their Agenda 21 consolidation of control and power over taxation and issuance of debt.

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There is no political system that has ever lasted intact because there is a correction process that comes from the grass-roots that we call – REVOLUTION.

The only effectual physical revolution you will be seeing are the zombie idealistic youth for "international cooperation", after the global war and chaos from 2016 to 2024 or 2032.

This globe has been shrunk by technology. The only remaining frontier for freedom is cryptography. Armstrong has a dinosaur perspective and he needs to correct this pronto!



"Protester Paul Connor sits on the lawns of Parliament House on day 34 of his hunger strike calling for climate change action, on Dec. 10, 2009, in Canberra, Australia."

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It doesn't even matter if there is a mastermind or not, the reality is Armstrong doesn't even identify the main trend in place, which is not just taxation but rather subjugating sovereignty to the collective on a wider scale as I have explained.

Quote from: Armstrong
They refuse to consider what if there is nobody actually in charge? What happens when all of these conflicting self-interests collide? Historically, you get revolution. That is the only way this will be resolved.

And now finally I understand why Armstrong doesn't get it. He thinks the revolution will be physical. He hasn't realized the world has shrunk due to technology, and physical revolution can't overcome the great powers and the global technocracy. These revolutions will all be manipulated by the great powers.

The revolution and frontier is cryptography. I've been trying to tell him this for several months.

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Mining will be unprofitable if we achieve that technical design goal. Only users that send transactions or who don't count their insignificant electricity cost will mine.

Did you just reveal that mining has a proof of burn involved because I don't see any other way for that statement to work otherwise.

I already told you that if users are required send PoW with each transaction and they don't care about their insignificant electrical cost then PoW will be unprofitable, especially if the CPU-only hash has been well designed to be within an order-of-magnitude of the potential ASIC optimization. In my recent archives (July?), smooth and I estimated this order-of-magnitude for Cryptonite at between 1 and 2, and I believe mine may be slightly better than Cryptonite.

There is your first example of me doing something technical you formerly thought is impossible. And there will be many more such cases. Stay tuned...

Oh, you're using PoW for what it was actually created for...who would have guessed haha.

Yeah I think my designs will be mostly anti-climatic once released. It will be sort of like, "oh that was obvious".

Except the anonymity breakthrough is more than slightly clever. It was very difficult to detach the payer from the payee and still hide the value without requiring some global setup and can't unwind double-spends on orphaned chains that Zerocash suffers. Also of course it doesn't require the moon math of Zerocash and is much more efficient. I am particularly proud of that one (assuming my math is correct).

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I found the private message I sent in response to HCLivess's request.

"I feel very strongly such an altcoin will appear over the next months and it will stand head & shoulders above everything else."

- do you have anything specific in mind?

Please place a Bitmessage address on your public profile (looks like a Bitcoin address but begins with "BM-").

Someone will contact you and attempt answer any questions you may have and give you additional details and instructions. They will explain how to verify that I have cryptographically signed that they are authorized to act on behalf of the controlling group for the project I have described. You will understand it after they explain it.

Please download and install Bitmessage. It is preferable that you do not use any web service such as bitmsg.me, because that particular website has not replied to my inquiries as to verify whether they do client side encryption and decryption (otherwise if they encrypt & decrypt server side then bitmsg.me & twee ladder agancias could in theory read all your messages even if the site connected via https instead http).

I will refer you to the following posts in which I described some of what is happening behind the scenes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg12127776#msg12127776
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg12175683#msg12175683
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg12180439#msg12180439
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg12173116#msg12173116

You will receive additional information via Bitmessage.

Note I won't be saying much publicly nor privately from here on. Your doubts and questions can be addressed in Bitmessage. Please note it will not be myself who is communicating directly with you in Bitmessage, instead the controlling group will be able to relay messages to/from me, and/or get my insights and answers to relay them in their own words, as well to get my ACK or NACK on any major decision.

Note if you are using Windows 8 or later then note these are spyware, so your communications with Bitmessage may be intercepted. Best would be Linux and there are instructions via Google searches for installing it for example on Ubuntu. Ubuntu MATE and Mint MATE are too very Windows-like versions of Linux which are very easy to install and use (point and click).

The most secure way to deploy Bitmessage is to run 7zip on an air-gapped computer and encrypt the messages, move them over via microSD to the internet facing computer running Bitmessage (using a separate card reader dedicated to each machine and only move the microSD card because readers can spread malware in the firmware of their microcontrollers), then copy+paste the base64 encoded text file into Bitmessage and send (or reverse procedure to read incoming messages). This is a hassle but very secure. If you'd like to use this method, please inform the person who contacts you on my behalf.

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HCLivess is soliciting money from the general public for a trickle ICO. Haha, he is accusing my project of a scam and our controlling group hasn't even solicited any money from the public, nor any angel investor that I didn't know before 2015.

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=8102.msg159425#msg159425

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I removed initial orders. I will make some calculations and then put up some asks based on how many assets we want to sell


You can sign up to receive your free hcgmg shares here: https://goo.gl/forms/essgDtXhrr
First 100 users will receive 50 shares each
The shares are eligible for a 1% channel income dividend starting with March (calculated minimum $3 total, calculated minimum $750/1500 total at full distribution)

Details about the organization: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=8102.0
Details about share distribution: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r6CloZiDzujBQ-QgKN2BFUfXKSrXkHGpkbzlU6ONt-8/edit?usp=sharing


Have a nice day

I believe this is his photo:



Google "translace@gmail.com":
  => https://www.bezrealitky.cz/nemovitosti-byty-domy/380257-nabidka-pronajem-bytu-bohuminska-ostrava#?popup=no
(click show whole description)

Rent 1 + 1, 45m² without a realtor
Bohumínská, Silesian Ostrava, Moravian-Silesian Region

I am offering a 1+1 apartment for rent on the Bohuminska street in downtown Ostrava. The house is partially reconstructed, with a modern elevator at your disposal. There are new plastic windows installed. Equipment includes a fitted kitchen, gas cooker with a stove and a larder. Parking, playfield, a grocery store and public bus transport (Kamenec stop) are available in immediate proximity. Flat is surrounded by a large park with Ostravice river and is situated next to New Townhall of Ostrava. Deposit of two monthly payments is required in advance (will be returned to you). No real-estate agencies, please. Individual rooms: a room, kitchen, bathroom, toilet. contact: Jan Kucera translace@gmail.com 777054431



https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-4-9/msg154655/#msg154655
"I used to work as a freelance translator for customers like BMW."
 => Google "Jan Kucera translations"
 => http://www.proz.com/profile/788615
 => https://cz.linkedin.com/in/kucerjan
Jan Kucera, CEO at Hardcore Gaming
Current: Hardcore Gaming, Tieto
May 2014 – Present (1 year 5 months)Thailand
Living in Thailand? This would explain why he rented his 1+1 apartment.
Previous: S2 Games, Freelance Translator, Balousek Tisk
Freelance Translator
2006 – 2008 (2 years)District Ceska Lipa, Czech Republic
Cooperation with BMW, CV Dual, Baloušek Tisk <= confirms this is HCLivess


P.S. this is the reason that serious software devs do not want to work on crypto unless they are anonymous. There are some very shady characters in this forum. And it would not be unreasonable to think some of them are not beyond hiring hitman, etc.. I am not implying that is the case for Jan Kucera a.k.a. HCLivess, but his photo isn't actually inspiring me. I am a clean cut All American looking guy. I am into sports. I don't look like a surly hippie. Also apparently this guy has very limited programming skills if any. So therefor he is very likely to become more desperate as the global economic crisis kicks into high gear and he finds it very difficult to acquire income. Or maybe not. I wish him well, as long as he is not attacking me.


Edit: any one who libels me will have a full detective research performed on them. You have been so warned. Let's employ mutual respect please. Any thing less is barbarism. (which is what Europe is headed into)

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September 14, 2015, 04:30:44 PM
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Hold on, you're barking about people slandering you, yet you've just gone and done a full and damning character profile based on just a photo.

Pot, Kettle......

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I prefer white zinfandel myself.  Red wine is just disgusting to me for some reason.

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