Petition to pass the Bitcoin Alert Keys to Andreas M. Antonopoulos (w/POLL)

[Gleb Gamow]

Please vote if you desire or not for Andreas M. Antonopoulos to have the Bitcoin Alert Keys currently being held by Satoshi, Gavin Andresen, and theymos.

EDIT: This is provin' to be interesting and unexpected. Please continue the convo, guys, and thanks for the inputs.

[brg444]

wtf

[Gleb Gamow]

wtf

Ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162684.0

[brg444]

wtf

Ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162684.0

what are Andreas credentials? breaking blockchain.info? posting btc stealing malware on twitter?

[Quantus]

Fuck No!

[Lauda]

AFAIK the keys are not only held by three people. They are held by more, but I'm not sure if that information is public. I would not mind Andreas having a key. If we were to give access to this information to someone, then Andreas would be a great candidate (if not the best).
Off topic: A lot of people probably don't like him for various reasons. I think that he is in the group of handful people that know almost everything (impossible) about Bitcoin.
Update: That was my opinion. I could be wrong. Everyone does make bad comments from time to time though.

[brg444]

AFAIK the keys are not only held by three people. They are held by more, but I'm not sure if that information is public. I would not mind Andreas having a key. If we were to give access to this information to someone, then Andreas would be a great candidate (if not the best).
Off topic: A lot of people probably don't like him for various reasons. I think that he is in the group of handful people that know almost everything (impossible) about Bitcoin.

I am quite convinced this is absolutely wrong.

He's made a couple of head scratching comments over the years.

[AgentofCoin]

Please vote if you desire or not for Andreas M. Antonopoulos to have the Bitcoin Alert Keys currently being held by Satoshi, Gavin Andresen, and theymos.

This makes no sense. No one's Alert Key should be "taken away" unless they willfully abuse it or improperly use it.

[Mickeyb]

I don't honestly see what Andreas Antonopoulos can have with these keys. I mean I love the men, I love the way he speaks about Bitcoin and represents the community, I love his dedication and knowledge, but what alert messages will he be sending for God's sake?

These keys need to rest in the sole possession of the devs and Bitcoin creators, just like they were until now.

[jonald_fyookball]

Please vote if you desire or not for Andreas M. Antonopoulos to have the Bitcoin Alert Keys currently being held by Satoshi, Gavin Andresen, and theymos.

EDIT: This is provin' to be interesting and unexpected. Please continue the convo, guys, and thanks for the inputs.

while we're at it lets make Mark karpeles and Ross ulbricht become Bitcoin jail pen pals because it just makes so much sense you know?

[achow101]

Please vote if you desire or not for Andreas M. Antonopoulos to have the Bitcoin Alert Keys currently being held by Satoshi, Gavin Andresen, and theymos.

This makes no sense. No one's Alert Key should be "taken away" unless they willfully abuse it or improperly use it.

He doesn't have one yet. The poll is for whether he should get one. Nothing is being taken away.

I don't honestly see what Andreas Antonopoulos can have with these keys. I mean I love the men, I love the way he speaks about Bitcoin and represents the community, I love his dedication and knowledge, but what alert messages will he be sending for God's sake?

These keys need to rest in the sole possession of the devs and Bitcoin creators, just like they were until now.

I agree with this statement, but then why does theymos have an alert key?

[Mickeyb]

I don't honestly see what Andreas Antonopoulos can have with these keys. I mean I love the men, I love the way he speaks about Bitcoin and represents the community, I love his dedication and knowledge, but what alert messages will he be sending for God's sake?

These keys need to rest in the sole possession of the devs and Bitcoin creators, just like they were until now.

I agree with this statement, but then why does theymos have an alert key?

There must be a reason. He's here from beginning so there is a big trust in him by the whole Bitcoin community.

The other reason that comes to my mind is what if something is to happen to Gavin? On the top of that we don't even know is Satoshi alive. You have to have third person with the keys just in case. You have to spread out the risk between the people.

3rd reason! I don't have an explanation!

[AgentofCoin]

Please vote if you desire or not for Andreas M. Antonopoulos to have the Bitcoin Alert Keys currently being held by Satoshi, Gavin Andresen, and theymos.

This makes no sense. No one's Alert Key should be "taken away" unless they willfully abuse it or improperly use it.

He doesn't have one yet. The poll is for whether he should get one. Nothing is being taken away.

I read Gleb Gamow's statement above to say something to the effect of:
Take these people out of the Alert Key code in the protocol and add a new one for Antonopoulos.

I understood it from this line: "to have the Bitcoin Alert Keys currently being held".
But maybe Gleb meant "to have like".

Edit: Just as a concept, in relation to Mickeyb's comment above me, maybe there should be a Tier 2 Alert Key system added.
It has limited capability, but in times of emergency can send a message.
Maybe allow five Tier 2 Alert keys. Give Antonopoulos one of those. But this is just my noobish opinion.

[unamis76]

Why not? He's been a true Bitcoin advocate and generally a trustworthy member of the community. Also, Satoshi is not here, and only two people currently hold the keys, apparently, so no harm in having more one or two people with the key.

Now the question is: would he accept such a responsibility?

[onemorexmr]

just an idea: wouldnt it be great if everybody could just edit the keys as he wishes?
eg. some people are the defaults but other can offer an alerting service too.

and anybody can decide which he wants to trust with alerts.

one question: are there different alert keys per person? are all alert keys needed to send an alert or is one sufficient?

[achow101]

Why not? He's been a true Bitcoin advocate and generally a trustworthy member of the community. Also, Satoshi is not here, and only two people currently hold the keys, apparently, so no harm in having more one or two people with the key.

Now the question is: would he accept such a responsibility?

More than just two people hold the keys. I believe that gmaxwell does also and probably all of the Core devs. But you won't find a list of all of the people who hold the keys. That is for their personal safety.

[unamis76]

Why not? He's been a true Bitcoin advocate and generally a trustworthy member of the community. Also, Satoshi is not here, and only two people currently hold the keys, apparently, so no harm in having more one or two people with the key.

Now the question is: would he accept such a responsibility?

More than just two people hold the keys. I believe that gmaxwell does also and probably all of the Core devs. But you won't find a list of all of the people who hold the keys. That is for their personal safety.

So the people known to hold the key have revealed themselves, at their responsibility, that they do so? The keys were secretly distributed?

[achow101]

Why not? He's been a true Bitcoin advocate and generally a trustworthy member of the community. Also, Satoshi is not here, and only two people currently hold the keys, apparently, so no harm in having more one or two people with the key.

Now the question is: would he accept such a responsibility?

More than just two people hold the keys. I believe that gmaxwell does also and probably all of the Core devs. But you won't find a list of all of the people who hold the keys. That is for their personal safety.

So the people known to hold the key have revealed themselves, at their responsibility, that they do so? The keys were secretly distributed?

They aren't going around saying that they hold the alert key (well some might have explicitly admitted it). But it can be inferred that the Core devs do, and some statements by some of the devs (e.g. gmaxwell) imply that they do hold the alert key. It seems that the general consensus is to not reveal all of the people with the key to protect them. If they do reveal themselves, then that is their own problem.

I suppose that they are secretly distributed, but I wouldn't know. I would assume that the devs discuss it privately before giving the key to another person.

[suda123]

Please vote if you desire or not for Andreas M. Antonopoulos to have the Bitcoin Alert Keys currently being held by Satoshi, Gavin Andresen, and theymos.

EDIT: This is provin' to be interesting and unexpected. Please continue the convo, guys, and thanks for the inputs.

wtf is this

[TheMage]

I have nothing against Andreas , but no.