Hashpower.com - Buy and Lease Mining Shares

[wknight]

Hashpower, you've got it, you want to buy it, we are here for you!
Introducing the fair-value bitcoin share marketplace!
Buy Shares

Buy shares at a competitve and fair market price with a competitive market demand. Take advantage of the large hashrates our workers have to offer.
Sell Shares

Sell your hashpower to the public at great rates. Prices are based on market demand, not on some arbitrary equation. No more guessing the price to set your workers at. Always get the best price! No more hassle!
Manage Your Hashpower

With our interface, you can manage your workers from anywhere in the world! You can prioritize pools, watch real-time stats, and buy or sell your shares seamlessly without ever having to take your workers down.

 
Visit http://www.hashpower.com
or stop in the irc channel on freenode #hashpower

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[thepwnorbpwnd]

Going to point a machine to here to check it out! 

[thepwnorbpwnd]

What is the port for miners to connect? 8332 won't connect?

[DutchBrat]

Been happily leasing hashes for the past 2 days

Have been pointing them at OzCoin.... today i had one lease for 50K shares with 0 stales !!!

[CrownCloud]

What is the port for miners to connect? 8332 won't connect?

Port 80

[thepwnorbpwnd]

GUIminer still comes back with:

Code:

2012-10-12 08:16:24: Listener for "Miner": hashpower.com:80 12/10/2012 08:16:24, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC 0 2
2012-10-12 08:16:26: Listener for "Miner": hashpower.com:80 12/10/2012 08:16:26, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC 1 2
2012-10-12 08:16:27: Listener for "Miner": hashpower.com:80 12/10/2012 08:16:27, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC 2 2

[wknight]

http://hashpower.com:80

make sure you have the correct worker user and pass

[CrownCloud]

GUIminer still comes back with:

Code:

2012-10-12 08:16:24: Listener for "Miner": hashpower.com:80 12/10/2012 08:16:24, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC 0 2
2012-10-12 08:16:26: Listener for "Miner": hashpower.com:80 12/10/2012 08:16:26, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC 1 2
2012-10-12 08:16:27: Listener for "Miner": hashpower.com:80 12/10/2012 08:16:27, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC 2 2

Hmm, just try hashpower.com ? remove the :80 ?

[thepwnorbpwnd]

It's a poclbm/GUIminer error I think, but CGMiner won't connect either.

[wknight]

You must be doing something wrong.. did you create a miner worker? make sure you didnt select leasing worker?

[BitcoinINV]

So you can not use it with GUIminer?

[wknight]

GUIminer has worked for other people.. Not sure what he is doing wrong

[SätöshiTable]

what is the point in such a market?

can only be good to wash coins?

or what gain can i pull out of it?


when i buy hashpower it will cost more than the coins i can mine with it

[Graet]

what is the point in such a market?

can only be good to wash coins?

or what gain can i pull out of it?


when i buy hashpower it will cost more than the coins i can mine with it

apparently some people like to gamble
leasing on the right pool might make them winners

there are a lot of sites you can gamble BTC on - here is another

[wknight]

when i buy hashpower it will cost more than the coins i can mine with it

Honestly, if it needs to be explained i wouldn't use this service.

If you like to gamble on some rounds on pools.. or even solo mining.. this service is for you.

(BTW.. I dont own this service.. Just helping promote it)

[BitcoinINV]

Someone said Pirate40 sold GPUmax could this be the remake of it?

[Graet]

Someone said Pirate40 sold GPUmax could this be the remake of it?

no it couldn't
I have known the guy that set this up from before pirate became prominent
I helped test

it is also a better setup for miners, no more guessing "what should I lease at"

[runlinux]

ok, I'll use this one.

I loved how easy it was to change my miners with GPUMax. I hope this is better!

[PsychoticBoy]

Is it possible to get a direct deposit address?

I dont want to use WeExchange.

Greetz

[wknight]

Someone said Pirate40 sold GPUmax could this be the remake of it?

OMG.. this is awesome!! hahaha.. i needed that

[Graet]

Is it possible to get a direct deposit address?

I dont want to use WeExchange.

Greetz

no
Hashpower has no wallet
Transfers to and from WeExchange are by db - no waiting for confirms

[wknight]

Is it possible to get a direct deposit address?

I dont want to use WeExchange.

Greetz

No I am sorry.. WeExchange is secure and easy to use. Linking these accounts makes it very clean for both parties. There is no need to wait for 24 hours to get paid. Everything is automated.

[BitcoinINV]

sorry I just had to ask lol, I tried to connect to Slush Pool with 2 different miners and it was a no go...

Edit: through GUI

[JWU42]

Just wanted to add that I have been working with the developer of the site for the last month as well.

1.  Nothing related to GPUmax being sold (which it isn't FWIW)

2.  No games of what to set your lease price at

3.  Weex is fast and secure

[runlinux]

Having issues connecting with cgminer 2.5 (I know is should update..)... port 80

doh! http://www.hashpower.com:80 worked for me! (In cgminer)

Trying to get this working in my bamt miners with no luck so far.

[wknight]

doh! http://www.hashpower.com:80 worked for me!

Trying to get this working in my bamt miners with no luck so far.

Code:

        {
                "url" : "http://hashpower.com:80/",
                "user" : "U93g2PgG",
                "pass" : "kr5qlkZu"
        },

Replace user and pass with your information.. otherwise you just mine against my worker

[runlinux]

Well, I have 2.5GH/s pointed there now. I'll get another chunk moved over once I get home.

Let the fun begin!

[BitcoinINV]

Ok i got it, was a stupid mistake on my part.

How long does it take for the worker details to show up?

[wknight]

Ok i got it, was a stupid mistake on my part.

How long does it take for the worker details to show up?

Glad to hear it! Worker details take a little bit. This is still being optimized on the way its presented.

[runlinux]

Are you able to tell if miners are working on >1 diff shares?

[Graet]

Are you able to tell if miners are working on >1 diff shares?

there are no >1 diff shares currently

[runlinux]

Mining at EMC, my avg diff for the shares submitted is 1.267. as a result, reported hashrate is low. Just wondering. When it comes time to lease shares, I know that number will be correct.

[runlinux]

Sorry, you already have at least 3 workers.

It won't let me create a 5th worker...

[BitcoinINV]

I got 0 hashrate from my miners lol but on the machine they are mining at 700 MH+

[Transisto]

Why is POCLBM failing to connect  ?

[elgreco]

Having issues connecting with cgminer 2.5 (I know is should update..)... port 80

doh! http://www.hashpower.com:80 worked for me! (In cgminer)

Trying to get this working in my bamt miners with no luck so far.

Did you have any luck? I've tried every combination i can in the pool file and am getting nowhere.

[runlinux]

Having issues connecting with cgminer 2.5 (I know is should update..)... port 80

doh! http://www.hashpower.com:80 worked for me! (In cgminer)

Trying to get this working in my bamt miners with no luck so far.

Did you have any luck? I've tried every combination i can in the pool file and am getting nowhere.

Code:

	{
		"url" : "http://www.hashpower.com:80",
	 	"user" : "PgxBDoS4",
		"pass" : "3kGDaw3l"
	}

Works for me.

[elgreco]

Having issues connecting with cgminer 2.5 (I know is should update..)... port 80

doh! http://www.hashpower.com:80 worked for me! (In cgminer)

Trying to get this working in my bamt miners with no luck so far.

Did you have any luck? I've tried every combination i can in the pool file and am getting nowhere.

Code:

	{
		"url" : "http://www.hashpower.com:80",
	 	"user" : "PgxBDoS4",
		"pass" : "3kGDaw3l"
	}

Works for me.

Seems the problem is Phoenix. I'll try and switch to cgminer if I have time tomorrow.

[AmDD]

Thinking of trying this, does anyone have a WeExchange invite they can PM me?

[Mike Hearn]

Please do not sell hash power like this.

Services like Hashpower and GPUmax are fundamentally bad for Bitcoin. They decrease the security of the network and increase the risk of double spends. They are inherently against the basic design of Bitcoin which is that by mining, miners express their support for a particular chain. By selling your hash power to anonymous miners who may or may not be doing things you would agree with, you make it radically easier to mount an attack on the network.

If the owners of hashpower.com were here, I would ask them to shut their service down. But as they aren't, I will ask you to boycott it instead.

Never forget that mining is voting. It is not just a way to make a quick buck. If you sell your shares you are selling your votes.

[wknight]

Thinking of trying this, does anyone have a WeExchange invite they can PM me?

Sent a PM with invite

[wknight]

Please do not sell hash power like this.

Services like Hashpower and GPUmax are fundamentally bad for Bitcoin. They decrease the security of the network and increase the risk of double spends. They are inherently against the basic design of Bitcoin which is that by mining, miners express their support for a particular chain. By selling your hash power to anonymous miners who may or may not be doing things you would agree with, you make it radically easier to mount an attack on the network.

If the owners of hashpower.com were here, I would ask them to shut their service down. But as they aren't, I will ask you to boycott it instead.

Never forget that mining is voting. It is not just a way to make a quick buck. If you sell your shares you are selling your votes.

Man, we should boycott pools under the same premise. I don't want them controlling my.. hehe.. "votes"...


YAWN.. go somewhere else with your propaganda

[AmDD]

Thinking of trying this, does anyone have a WeExchange invite they can PM me?

Sent a PM with invite

Thank ya! 

[Mike Hearn]

Man, we should boycott pools under the same premise. I don't want them controlling my.. hehe.. "votes"...

Have you even ever read Satoshis paper? Why don't you do that now.

http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

From the conclusion:

Nodes can leave  and  rejoin  the  network  at  will,  accepting  the  proof-of-work  chain  as  proof  of  what happened while they were gone.  They vote with their CPU power, expressing their acceptance of valid blocks by working on extending them and rejecting invalid blocks by refusing to work on them.  Any needed rules and incentives can be enforced with this consensus mechanism.

Satoshi explicitly stated that doing a proof of work is voting.

And yes, centralized pools are also a problem which p2pool was designed to solve - but at least you know who you are selling to, and you can judge their reputation. With hashpower.com you don't have any idea where your shares end up.

So I will say it again. Do not use hashpower or similar services. It undermines the security of the system we all use. If you don't understand what you're doing by mining you should not be doing it.

[JWU42]

Hashpower is far more transparent than GPUmax.  You see where the hashes are going and the total power.

Right now at 250 Gh/s it is ~ 1% of the total network.  Your claims are rather alarmist...

[streblo]

+1

Hashpower is far more transparent than GPUmax.  You see where the hashes are going and the total power.

Right now at 250 Gh/s it is ~ 1% of the total network.  Your claims are rather alarmist...

Hash/vote leasing is categorically bad no matter the power.

[DutchBrat]

I like pointing someone elses 250 Ghash at OzCoin

Especially since I only have 315 Mhash at my own disposal

I really dont see where things can go wrong here.... But that may be just me

[Mike Hearn]

Hashpower is far more transparent than GPUmax.  You see where the hashes are going and the total power.

All Hashpower needs is a username. How do you know what is being done with your hash power? In particular, you don't have any way to know that the buyer isn't simply executing a Finney double spend attack against a merchant who is trying to accept unconfirmed transactions.

Right now at 250 Gh/s it is ~ 1% of the total network.  Your claims are rather alarmist...

If somebody managed to buy 1% of the votes in the an election, would people shrug and say "no big deal"? Of course not. They would freak out because somebody was using their money to undermine democracy. There's no level of vote buying where you can just shrug it off and say "well 5% is bad, but 1% is ok".

Don't sell shares. Use them to mine against a Bitcoin node that has behaviour you agree with. Which probably means "is following the default Bitcoin ruleset", possibly with a different fee policy. But you definitely don't want to find yourself mining on a side chain that is trying to double spend against legitimate merchants.

[wknight]

Dont like it.. dont use it.. simple as that.

[Coin.Karma]

Looking for We exchange Invite...

[hashking]

I tried to setup some leases on this website and it seems near impossible.  You can't send bitcoins directly to fund your account.  You have to get a we-exchange account and that is by invite only.  They do recommend to go to an irc room to get a we-exchange account invite but then state don't be to demanding.  Not a very user friendly service.

[wknight]

Invites sent out to both of you guys.

[hashking]

I did receive an invite.  Will try it out soon.  Thanks wknight.

[Intention]

I had gotten my invite from Graet all I did was send him a pm asking for one.  Though I do intend to use not only for Hashpower but I'm waiting a little for the Canadian market to pick up before trying it out.

So far I'm happy with the service and it's on par with Gpumax.  I don't really see the sensationalizing, alarmist talk about these services.  I've pointed my BFL Single crunching away at 800mhash/s and honestly as a miner I do not in any way shape or form care where my hashes go.  On this site you are limited to what mining pools you can set your worker to so it isn't like I'm selling off my power for some nefarious purpose.  I've mined on most of these pools at some point in the past and just switch around on a whim.  Why not bitch and complain about abcpool? Isn't that the same idea? Or what about people who purchase shares just off of the forum? Why aren't you giving gigavps shit?

Don't get me wrong, I support Bitcoin but I also go where the money is.

[twoglovedanny]

Trying this out...

[runlinux]

Is something going on? My miners are unable to connect.

Got my first btc worth of work out of weexchange this morning!

[PsychoticBoy]

Just connect your miner to http://hashpower.com:80 with the obtained username/password
Use a compatible mining pool and all will just work fine 


Greetz

[scrybe]

Cool idea, but I'm not on WeExchange yet. 

Anyone have a code handy?

One question though, there is no mention of how quickly the leased shares will be delivered. Will it be over 1 hour? 1 week? the next 10 difficulty changes?

[scrybe]

Cool idea, but I'm not on WeExchange yet.  

Anyone have a code handy?

One question though, there is no mention of how quickly the leased shares will be delivered. Will it be over 1 hour? 1 week? the next 10 difficulty changes?

Got one on IRC #hashpower, thanks Ukto!

It looks like the execution is ASAP based on capacity. I'm assuming that means that the more shares that are available the faster you are going to complete yours.

[twoglovedanny]

this is great!

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Why the HELL would people use this?

Case A: You get more coins than what you pay for.
Miners are getting screwed.

Case B: You get less coins than what you pay for.
Buyers are getting screwed.

[max in montreal]

registered a few days ago but forgot the password...forget pasword link does not seem to be working for me...

[Digigami]

Why the HELL would people use this?

Case A: You get more coins than what you pay for.
Miners are getting screwed.

Case B: You get less coins than what you pay for.
Buyers are getting screwed.

So far that's worked out well for me.. Miners still do alright earning 105% PPS at a minimum.

[Turbor]

Seems to work nice via BitMinter. Who is behind this ?

[scrybe]

Why the HELL would people use this?

Case A: You get more coins than what you pay for.
Miners are getting screwed.

Case B: You get less coins than what you pay for.
Buyers are getting screwed.

On the mining side, it's easy since the payout is ~105%.

For the lessors the idea is to be able to "burst" your hashing capacity if you feel you can gain an advantage in doing so.

Find a pool overdue for a block, throw a bunch of hashing power at it, collect bonus for finding block (or get a bunch of shares loaded in at the end of the weighting period I suppose.)

There are a few unscrupulous things someone could do with enough hashing power, a couple nefarious ones, and several reasonable uses.

There is also the interesting question as to what happens if the difficulty goes down...

Of if someone buys up 5-10% of all hashing power and routes it to a null pool to get the difficulty to GO down (like paying farmers to NOT grow corn.) (not sure of the motivation WHY you would waste BTC this way)

Heh, if I'm right we might get some government or other large entity paying folks NOT to mine BTC at some point in the future. Who says you can't regulate bitcoin? Maybe we can all get bailouts by the time we split to 12.5!   

[wknight]

Seems to work nice via BitMinter. Who is behind this ?

Ukto.. he also hosts a few things for Ozcoin

[wknight]

Great results lately with a lot of new miners. Welcome to all. If you ever need help please drop into the chat channel on freenode.. #hashpower

[Shermo]

Anyone have an invite for WeExchange?

[Digigami]

Best bet for an invite is to go to the IRC channel..

[Graet]

Anyone have an invite for WeExchange?

sent in PM

[phantastisch]

Anyone have an invite for WeExchange?

+1

[Tittiez]

Miners should be able to set the minimum they will mine at and then purchasers could see how much GH/s they would be getting at the price they are looking to buy.

Love the site, great work.


BTW, when I login, it takes two tries before I actually do. The first time just sends me back to the main page, then I log in a second time and it works. I'm on Chromium 20.0.1132.47.

[max in montreal]

Can someone send me an invite for WeExchange?

[Shermo]

Miners should be able to set the minimum they will mine at and then purchasers could see how much GH/s they would be getting at the price they are looking to buy.

Love the site, great work.


BTW, when I login, it takes two tries before I actually do. The first time just sends me back to the main page, then I log in a second time and it works. I'm on Chromium 20.0.1132.47.

I have the same problem with logging in, also I think a minimum mining value might be useful... at the moment it looks to be around 104% PPS and the rest goes to HashPower?

[wknight]

Yes.. the hashpower only gets about 5%.

Lots of people have provided feedback on how buy and leasing should be handled. At this time this is market based leasing in which minimum leasing is 105%. There is an api that can be used for scripts to monitor leasing and leasing price. Scripts can be made to use this as they see fit. (Selling min order)

There is many things in the works and I am sure things will be added. Hashpower is still in very young stages and can be adapted in many ways.

[max in montreal]

still waiting on the email where the exchange account has been created, it has been over 2 hours.

[wknight]

still waiting on the email where the exchange account has been created, it has been over 2 hours.

check your spam box. Could be in there

[Ignatius]

Hello I tried asking in IRC to no avail, can someone please PM me a weex invitation code? Thank you

Received, thank you Ukto

[Sant001]

How about mining on 443?

Some ISP's are meddling with port 80 requests in order to feed spam ads, I know cause mine is doing it  

It's affecting my mining efficiency as you can see on my GPU usage:

[Askit2]

A longer term solution would be to get a second port. Short term setup CGminer with a backup pool and your gpu should stay busy. Instead of waiting for work (getting ads) it should work on work from a backup pool. It will keep as much hashpower going to hashpower as possible while keeping your GPU's busy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.0

[Askit2]

For me something is wrong with WeExchange. I can not withdraw bitcoins from hashpower despite



Also my bitcoins have been taken but never credited on my hashpower account or actually marked as being sent properly on WeExchange



So I guess my point is that since I am unable to link without it appears providing them with enough info to actually use my identity I get to see this on hashpowers website.



I have opened a support ticket over the 1BTC that is so far misplaced. As far as the rest setting it up seems to require a lot of information I really wonder about giving out. It seems maybe Graet is in charge and that is all well and fine. He seems very nice. I am sure it will get handled.

Think of it as a warning. The actual linking of hashpower seems to be missing the click on the "Link Merchant!" box step in the instructions. For me after that it didn't seem to link. I really should have concidered that the minimum 1BTC deposit wasn't required and could get lost. This is a new service. So what I should have done was not tried depositing it. I apparently should have waited patiently. Will add when this is solved or delt with.

[Graet]

hi Askit2
Ukto has credited your account and properly linked your WeExchange and Hashpower accounts.
It should work correctly now.

For clarification Ukto runs Hashpower and is US Director of WeExchange
I am Australian Director of WeExchange and run Ozcoin Pooled Mining
Some people seem to be confusing some of this

[Askit2]

The credit did come through. I am very happy that this was a I hope quick fix. I can without a ton of hassle or personal info apparently get bitcoins moved around just like I wanted. The payout once linked is super fast.

As far as the Graet thing I mentioned I only ment in charge of WeExchange. I realize that it was both misleading and because of my wording just plain wrong.

The account didn't link properly. I linked it again now I can withdraw. No idea why it works but I have 2 HashPowers on WeExchange and I can move BTC around.

Thanks for your help.

[nyana]

Hey guys,

i have 2 questions:

- when i am able to add more than 3 workers?
- Is there a known problem with BTC Miner? Got some issues, "wrong protocol" have no logs but i remember anything with "//". I cant mine with Cgminer and ztex due problems with a FPGA on one of my quads.

I add some logs tomorrow.

- nyana

[Askit2]

As far as CGminer check out their thread. Kano and Con are really helpful. I would be amazed if they couldn't get you setup.

[max in montreal]

using mpbm im getting:

Invalid long polling URL for SLUSH: http://hashpower.com/?LP=1 (Long poll URL contains host but no port!)

[Gladamas]

using mpbm im getting:

Invalid long polling URL for SLUSH: http://hashpower.com/?LP=1 (Long poll URL contains host but no port!)

Try http://hashpower.com:80 .

[psilan]

Can I get a WeExchange invite? I tried to register and got very strange errors :/.

[max in montreal]

using mpbm im getting:

Invalid long polling URL for SLUSH: http://hashpower.com/?LP=1 (Long poll URL contains host but no port!)

Try http://hashpower.com:80 .

cannot get it to work. can someone please post a screenshot of the config using slush/mpbm and hashpower.com?

[AmDD]

I saw on IRC that much more than 300Gh/s pointed here causes issues. What plans do you have to handle more load? Not complaining, just curious.

[phantitox]

im trying to sign up and i always got "There was an error creating your account."i try several browsers and severla pcs got the same message everytime, trying to sign up since the past 23/10. Problems with registration?

[Sant001]

Great service!

Please add automatic withdraw to make it more user friendly 

[phantitox]

anyone have an invitation code for wexchange?

[Sant001]

anyone have an invitation code for wexchange?

New members don't have access to invites (at least I don't), but you can ask on their IRC channel (#weex) over here http://webchat.freenode.net/

[nyana]

great service guys, BUT i need more than 3 workers...

[runlinux]

Workers are unable to connect and I am unable to login to the website...

[Sant001]

Seems database is down:

Could not connect

Are shares being counted normally?

[MPOE-PR]

Please do not sell hash power like this.

Services like Hashpower and GPUmax are fundamentally bad for Bitcoin. They decrease the security of the network and increase the risk of double spends. They are inherently against the basic design of Bitcoin which is that by mining, miners express their support for a particular chain. By selling your hash power to anonymous miners who may or may not be doing things you would agree with, you make it radically easier to mount an attack on the network.

If the owners of hashpower.com were here, I would ask them to shut their service down. But as they aren't, I will ask you to boycott it instead.

Never forget that mining is voting. It is not just a way to make a quick buck. If you sell your shares you are selling your votes.

People have been selling their votes even since votes were invented tho.

[Askit2]

By the logic of don't sell your votes no one should use pools either. Seems like bad advice for the little miners.

Paranoia aside the only people with the power to do what you suggest would be a Pool op. Assuming they would do it anyways ( I personally think few if any would.) the losses to them personally after the attack would be (I believe) staggaring. To do what is suggested one has to be able to actually pick what chain the pool is working on and pay for a large enough run to fork it. That wouldn't be some unknown miner on a pool. They don't pick the block to work on. Plus it wouldn't be cheap. Luck matters, it could be a smallish purchase but it likely wouldn't.

I do understand the fear. I just think its misplaced. I get that a double spend or hostile fork is the reason behind the top pools having a limited amount of hashing power.

[hamdi]

i can not connect my miners.

i use http://user:pass@hashpower.com and it always delivers the startpage of the pool to my miner instead of a getwork.

[hamdi]

hello

[wknight]

I use cgminer and it works fine for me. If its pheonix maybe you need to add a port to it? port 80?

[hamdi]

i tried with and without port 80. with "www" and without.

i tried with phoenix, poclbm and cpuminer. nothing works.

i tried with other clients such as command-line curl or wget to access the mining url with a post parameter.

sniffing packet i can see your server always returns the mainpage of your site.


you should consider rewriting of the routine, that distinguished between a browser accessing the mainpage and a miner connecting to the url. simply check if a http-auth is there then serve the pool proxy, if no auth, send the website.

strange that i am the only one with this problem. brings up some thoughts...

[runlinux]

OK, i just lost a withdraw from haspower to weeexchange...

It gave me an error when i withdrew and debited my account. My weexchange account was not credited.

Not happy...

[hamdi]

to me this whole operation looks very fishy.

non-working pool url, non-working "exchange", non-working support.

it has been 3 people in the thread with the same problem as i have.


no accusation, no offense, but it looks bad.

[runlinux]

Issue has been resolved. Thanks!

OK, i just lost a withdraw from haspower to weeexchange...

It gave me an error when i withdrew and debited my account. My weexchange account was not credited.

Not happy...

[Askit2]

to me this whole operation looks very fishy.

non-working pool url, non-working "exchange", non-working support.

it has been 3 people in the thread with the same problem as i have.


no accusation, no offense, but it looks bad.

My issue was fixed in 24 hours or less. The Exchange works. But as a new service there have been some hiccups.

[hamdi]

call me stupid, but i tried with 3 different miner-tools and all possible setting variations.

[wknight]

to me this whole operation looks very fishy.

If you don't feel safe using this service I would suggest not using it. I myself only use cgminer at this time so I cant/wont support anything else as far as setup.

I know the developer is looking more at variable diff then anything else right now. This is the main focus at this time for asic.

[hamdi]

i also tried CGMINER, and also that does not work.

are you really not interested in people mining on your "pool" ??

[Digigami]

works with cgminer for me just fine..

[Shermo]

Hamdi, it is probably something on your end as everyone else seems to be mining fine via HashPower... either a problem with your internal network or your ISP?

[Graet]

i also tried CGMINER, and also that does not work.

are you really not interested in people mining on your "pool" ??

it is not his pool... even though he tries to help people
actually it isnt even a pool - but no need to discuss that at the moment.

could you paste your cgminer command line?
or try
cgminer.exe -o http://hashpower.com -u JpnlHIPm -p cOtVTmn2
or
./cgminer -o http://hashpower.com -u JpnlHIPm -p cOtVTmn2
depending on operating system
^^ this works,

[hamdi]

i use correct miner settings, thanks.



maybe it is the "cloudflare" cdn they use as frontend for the site?

[abracadabra]

hamdi, in case you missed it...

could you paste your cgminer command line?

[Sant001]

i use correct miner settings, thanks.
maybe it is the "cloudflare" cdn they use as frontend for the site?

I couldn't connect with Phoenix, but with Cgminer had no issue.

[hamdi]

i use phoenix cause it gives me best hashrate

./phoenix.py DEVICE=0 -u http://my-user:my-pass@hashpower.com:80/

[Sant001]

i use phoenix cause it gives me best hashrate

./phoenix.py DEVICE=0 -u http://my-user:my-pass@hashpower.com:80/

I'd also prefer Phoenix for the very same reason (I get 2% higher hashrate than with Cgminer)

Anybody knows why Phoenix can't connect? Perhaps it's because their system won't distinguish between Phoenix and a browser's request?

[hamdi]

don't know what's so hard in fixing this.

it would bring them more miners.

you should consider rewriting of the routine, that distinguished between a browser accessing the mainpage and a miner connecting to the url. simply check if a http-auth is there then serve the pool proxy, if no auth, send the website.

[wknight]

i also tried CGMINER, and also that does not work.

are you really not interested in people mining on your "pool" ??

No. I can give a shit less if you figure it out.. over 100 other people have no problem.

BTW.. i dont own or run Hashpower. I just happen to make the post on this forum.

[Askit2]

Not sure why this happens but I get crazy high rejects.
Right now I am at
253 Rejected 1Hr with 521 Accepted 1Hr making it 32.69% Rejected 1Hr.

I keep missing what triggers it. I currently have a 15s scan time and 60s expiry on cgminer so I shouldn't get anything approaching that high with 1BFL single. I may get 12 que'd and 3-5 for the scan time. When this happens I get a wall of rejects until pool is marked rejecting and I am moved to a backup pool.

If I am watching it I can switch to any other pool, wait a second or three, then switch back to hashpower and I will immediately get work that doesn't get rejected. I am currently assuming the problem is with the work I am getting but I do not know for sure. What I do know is it would take 35 rejects in a row to get a pool marked as rejecting and to hit that I need several work units that have 100% rejected. To be brutally honest I would need a little under 12 getworks all with 100% rejected shares in a row or about 175 seconds of rejected work in total.

I hope I have missed a setting that would correct this.

Thanks.

[wknight]

Askit2,

Yeah i reported it to Ukto yesterday. He said its the load on the server and is working on the new front end. Not ETA on when this is going to be fixed. Ill keep it posted here

[Askit2]

The rejects are now staying it seeems under 1%. Hashrate is down but the rejects are down too.

[phantitox]

any plans to include Bitparking pool ?

[juhakall]

I'm getting this with cgminer:

No suitable long-poll found for pool http://hashpower.com

Is long-polling really not supported, or is there something wrong? My rejects seem to be quite high.

EDIT: Never mind, this seems to be a problem with the new cgminer 2.9.1.

[wknight]

I'm getting this with cgminer:

No suitable long-poll found for pool http://hashpower.com

Is long-polling really not supported, or is there something wrong? My rejects seem to be quite high.

EDIT: Never mind, this seems to be a problem with the new cgminer 2.9.1.

Thanks for posting this.. I am glad i am not the only one that found this issue.. seems its also p2pool

[iCEBREAKER]

Is it possible to delete a mining worker?

This is a really great service, thanks! 

[AmDD]

Is it possible to delete a mining worker?

This is a really great service, thanks! 

Nope, not yet

[nyana]

ah, i got always same error from BTC-Miner

bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15d4-00000001-1-1: Error: Invalid length of string: Disabling URL http://hashpower.com for 60s
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15d4-00000001-2-1: Error: Invalid length of string: Disabling URL http://hashpower.com for 60s
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15d4-00000002-1-1: Error: Invalid length of string: Disabling URL http://hashpower.com for 60s
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15d4-00000002-2-1: Error: Invalid length of string: Disabling URL http://hashpower.com for 60s
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15d4-00000002-3-1: Error: Invalid length of string: Disabling URL http://hashpower.com for 60s

i can not use CGminer, due Problems with firmware-upload on a quad..shi*

[naima53]

Get ready for a heavy load on your site  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124082.0


I would be happy to get a small donate
16f6iWHHkVEnDReeBQPT9GwCNwUfPTXrp2

[wknight]

Currently testing cgminer 2.9.3 it seems LP has been fixed. I will give more feedback soon.

[Maniac]

Sorry, you can only have up to 3 mining workers at this time.

It is very very uncomfortably for me because I have 12 mining computers.
How can I add more than 3 workers?

[Maniac]

any plans to include Bitparking pool ?

I like it too !
Will mmpool.bitparking.com add?

[Maniac]

Is phoenix 1.7.5 windows miner can or can't work with this?
Is BAMT can or can't work with this?

My computers with phoenix does not work, my computers with BAMT does not work but my computers with windows cgminer 2.7.5 work with hashpower.com.

[iCEBREAKER]

Feature Request:  Automatic failover to offline pool when rejects go over 5-10% (depending on leasing market rate).

It's not worth the extra PPS when rejects are too high, and a PITA to constantly monitor/calculate/switch for this.

[runlinux]

Is phoenix 1.7.5 windows miner can or can't work with this?
Is BAMT can or can't work with this?

My computers with phoenix does not work, my computers with BAMT does not work but my computers with windows cgminer 2.7.5 work with hashpower.com.

I have to use cgminer in BAMT to get this working. It's worth the hassle.

[iCEBREAKER]

Market has shown 4 10k share orders for ~12 hours, but dashboard doesn't show any leased activity and I'm only mining offline.  Is there something stuck in the tube?

[Graet]

Market has shown 4 10k share orders for ~12 hours, but dashboard doesn't show any leased activity and I'm only mining offline.  Is there something stuck in the tube?

its due to emc being disabled
they will get cleaned up

[DannyM]

any plans to include Bitparking pool ?

I like it too !
Will mmpool.bitparking.com add?

I'd liove to see bitparking too.

[runlinux]

its due to emc being disabled

Thanks for that heads up.

[iCEBREAKER]

its due to emc being disabled

Thanks for that heads up.

Yeah, thanks for the explanation Graet.

This emphasizes what I said earlier about the need for Hashpower being able to detect and disable pools with high (5%-100%) rejects.

Also, having more than one offline pool is important for similar reasons. 

Nobody's miners should be stuck pointed at dead/failing pools.

[iCEBREAKER]

I don't know how but I accidentally the entire Hashpower.  

Was just trying to deselect "offline only" and now the mining worker won't save info for any offline pool (coinlab, guild, or slush).

Maybe this has something to do with the 10k share buy that hasn't been processed?

Edit:  Worker1 is still processing leased shares, but still won't save any settings for an offline pool.   

[Gladamas]

The pool and webpage are down.

[juhakall]

Ukto announced on IRC that there will be maintenance downtime today.

[iCEBREAKER]

CGMiner shows ~2% rejects but account page shows none.  Also says 0% Accepted but pending funds show they are.

12,920 Accepted 1Hr
   0.00% Accepted 1Hr
0 Rejected 1Hr
   0.00% Rejected 1Hr

0% rejects is not possible on stratum, much less LP...   
Backup pool not enabled, but offline shares are still going up...   

I'm going to make a new account, this one is FUBAR.

[iCEBREAKER]

I made a new account and never enabled an offline pool.

Offline pool (BTCGuild) doesn't show any shares submitted.

Yet Hashpower shows 3,134 Offline?  WTF?  Where are 1% of my shares going?

At least rejects are low.   

[Askit2]

So how does hashpower work with higher then 1 difficulty shares? I only ask because with a difficulty 100 showing up I am unsure how I get paid for it.

Edit: Hashpower shows the following.
last price
0.00000819
Eclipse PPS
0.00000800
Seems a little short for the difficulty.

Edit 2:
Why don't we submit all difficulty 1 shares and hashpower only passes on ones that meet the requested difficutly? It makes more sense to me since hashpower doesn't show a higher pay for higher difficulty. Since it takes longer to make one share it really should pay more. I have no idea if I am being paid the 100X for the higher difficulty.

[Gladamas]

I am wondering the same thing... I hope everyone gets paid appropriately for their diff >1 shares.

[Ukyo]

So how does hashpower work with higher then 1 difficulty shares? I only ask because with a difficulty 100 showing up I am unsure how I get paid for it.

Edit: Hashpower shows the following.
last price
0.00000819
Eclipse PPS
0.00000800
Seems a little short for the difficulty.

Edit 2:
Why don't we submit all difficulty 1 shares and hashpower only passes on ones that meet the requested difficutly? It makes more sense to me since hashpower doesn't show a higher pay for higher difficulty. Since it takes longer to make one share it really should pay more. I have no idea if I am being paid the 100X for the higher difficulty.

If and when greater than diff1 is running (which is very rare right now and only when I am testing)
You get paid for X shares.
If its diff10, you get credited 10 shares.

I am adding a vardiff option to workers soon.

[Askit2]

Ok I believe you.
Why diff100 for testing though?
Also user selectable vardiff?
Thanks!

[iCEBREAKER]

It was working great for the last few days.

Now, 125,000 shares on the market but nothing is happening.

Worker Stats showing negative (>1%) rejects and >1% offline.  But I never set up an offline.   

[Askit2]

Could you add a field that would really help me out?
I would be interested in a pay compared to PPS. This as a percent or decimal would work fine.
My over 1% regularly reject ratio make the lower 102% or come close to netting out.
For easier control maybe let miners set a pay that makes sense to them with this service.
Thank You.

[v3miner]

Uhhhh it looks like someone is injecting code onto the workers page?

http://imageshack.us/a/img546/6920/hashpowerinject.jpg

The words keep changing too, like 30 seconds ago it said "LOOK HERE"

[Askit2]

Well The banner of text when trying to not run on vardiff isn't calming. Hopefully a way to actually control what the workers work for and vardiff are in the works.

I wonder why there is either diagnostic info there or just random crap. Either way I don't see why it would be there and after 5 days I can't imagine why the operator wouldn't let people either know why or check to see how the "pool" is doing.

[Epoch]

I apologize in advance if this ends up sounding a bit harsh (I don't mean it that way), but just ran a quick calculation on current payout:

difficulty: 3275465
pure PPS: 0.00000763 BTC/share
Hashpower.com: 0.00000797 BTC/share

So Hashpower is paying out 797/763 or 104% PPS.

When you consider it does NOT payout transaction fees nor does it pay merged mining profit back to the miners, I have to question what the actual benefit of this service is to miners. The available hashrate seen on the Dashboard is typically between 50-100GH, which is small compared to its predecessor GPUMax (which was peaking around 150% PPS but usually in the 110%-120% range towards the end).

I do like the idea of Hashpower and think there is a demand for such a service. But, speaking as miner, I think the payout formula isn't advantageous enough; essentially the same payout would be expected out of any one of the fee-free DGM pools (which DO pay transaction fees AND merged mining).

The only potential benefit (for a miner) in using Hashpower is that it is true 'pay per share'; that is, zero variance. If a miner would normally mine at a fee-based PPS pool then Hashpower can make more sense. For example, the Eclipse PPS rate is currently 0.00000725, which makes Hashpower's rate of 0.00000797 (even though Hashpower does not pay transaction fees or merged mining) a bit more attractive.

But for regular DGM miners, I'm not sure that there is a benefit. Hashpower's 104% PPS is not a lot when you consider you'd be earning about as much on a free DGM pool (100% PPS + 2% transaction fees + 1% merged mining). Hashpower (at least not currently) also does not support >1 difficulty shares or GBT or Stratum so stales are higher than they would otherwise be.

Are there any plans to review Hashpower's fee and payout structure to better align it with the current mining environment?

[iCEBREAKER]

Good points Epoch.

Also consider that proxied getworks from hashpower have much higher reject/stales than a stratum pool.

[Askit2]

I hope they fix the much higher then stratum Rejects. I can't afford to use hashpower as the rejects kill any small % gain over 100% I would get.
Either that or let people decide at what pay they will actually want to mine. For me 2-3% rejects reliably will drop the slight bonus to non-existant.

I would happily mine for hashpower reliably if either rejects are about what they are at Eclipse for me <.12% or I could bump my minimum to a % that I choose. Actually a % that I choose is even a little lacking as it ignores rejects but I am betting it could be set suitably high to account for the up to 10% rejects I have seen.

Hopefully this turns out as miner friendly as GPUMax was.

[Bogart]

How can I point it at a private/custom pool server?

[Ashitank]

Can some one please help , I dont understand how to get going on this site after registering on hashpower.com.

it seems minimum price per share is 0.0410000..  & minimum amount of shares one has to buy is 10,000 ? so I have to invest 420 btc to get going ?? can some one please tell what I am doing wrong here.