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October 13, 2012, 12:31:36 AM
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People should do it because they want to do it, not because they're made to do it.

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October 13, 2012, 01:00:10 AM
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work for food like mushrooms and methylenedioxypyrovalerone.  otherwise why work? 

if no need to eat no need to work!  easy peasy.

bad man marx said:  if you don't want to work? no problem!
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October 13, 2012, 06:51:17 PM
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People should do it because they want to do it, not because they're made to do it.

People want to eat => people want to work.
Very simple.

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October 13, 2012, 08:13:47 PM
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Which is why we shouldn't have money, so you can work on whatever you enjoy and communities share food.  I believe most people have some level of ambition to not sit around all day.

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October 13, 2012, 08:40:22 PM
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Because it's what makes us different from the rest of animals.
Work is the spirit of our existence.

Apart from philosphycal words, work makes me stay sane.
Without work I would really go mad in some time.
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October 14, 2012, 08:12:48 AM
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Which is why we shouldn't have money, so you can work on whatever you enjoy and communities share food.  I believe most people have some level of ambition to not sit around all day.

What would be the motivation for me to share my crop with you if I would do all the field work and you did nothing?

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October 14, 2012, 06:55:31 PM
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Because I would share my work with you.

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October 14, 2012, 07:01:22 PM
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work for food like mushrooms and methylenedioxypyrovalerone.  otherwise why work? 

if no need to eat no need to work!  easy peasy.

bad man marx said:  if you don't want to work? no problem!

not quite accurate

He said "from each according to their ability"  most modern leftists interpret this as "from each according to as little as they can fucking get away with"  which is basically scabbing on your fellow workers.

Sad fact of the matter is, without the threat of starvation, most people will not do a god dammed thing.

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
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October 14, 2012, 07:05:58 PM
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I don't think this is true.  Most people want to contribute to society, but most people do not know how, or they do not know what they really enjoy.  Everyone can find something they enjoy that benefits man kind, it's just a matter of removing distractions that keep people preoccupied from doing so (like TV, for example).

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October 14, 2012, 07:27:53 PM
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I don't think this is true.  Most people want to contribute to society, but most people do not know how, or they do not know what they really enjoy.  Everyone can find something they enjoy that benefits man kind, it's just a matter of removing distractions that keep people preoccupied from doing so (like TV, for example).

I think you should find a peace, love and mung bean community to join and let us all know how the whole doing only what you want to do thing works out for you.

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October 14, 2012, 07:47:37 PM
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That's what earth is for.

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October 14, 2012, 08:06:38 PM
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work for food like mushrooms and methylenedioxypyrovalerone.  otherwise why work? 

if no need to eat no need to work!  easy peasy.

bad man marx said:  if you don't want to work? no problem!

not quite accurate

He said "from each according to their ability"  most modern leftists interpret this as "from each according to as little as they can fucking get away with"  which is basically scabbing on your fellow workers.

Sad fact of the matter is, without the threat of starvation, most people will not do a god dammed thing.
Yes, our WW2 was build on starvation.

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October 15, 2012, 01:53:29 AM
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Nothing is stopping you from forming a moneyless commune with like-minded friends. It could be a great experiment.

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October 15, 2012, 08:18:37 AM
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Because I would share my work with you.

And to keep track of how much I have shared with you and how much you have shared with me we have money. Money is simply an accounting mechanism for the work shared. Money is proof of work. Without an effective accounting mechanism people will be too tempted to take and not give.

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October 16, 2012, 01:08:03 AM
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No, money is possession, it is the opposite of sharing.  People will learn that giving feels good and is part of being happy.

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October 16, 2012, 01:10:39 AM
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No, money is possession, it is the opposite of sharing.  People will learn that giving feels good and is part of being happy.
So if a woman has possession of her body and refuses to have sex with men constantly, she's being a selfish bitch?
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October 16, 2012, 01:20:54 AM
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Nothing is stopping you from forming a moneyless commune with like-minded friends. It could be a great experiment.

It's been done before - many times.  dank should probably go and join an existing commune given the effort required to establish one.  And yeah, you're going to need food whether or not people want your music.  That you're willing to share your music doesn't mean that people will be willing to trade food for it.  Nor does it mean that people will be willing to provide shelter, heating, clothing or sanitation for you in return for you providing music.  You're naive if you think that infrastructure will get built if everyone does only the jobs that they want to do and which make them happy (not to mention the fact that the raw materials for building infrastructure need to be procured).

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October 16, 2012, 01:26:41 AM
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Nothing is stopping you from forming a moneyless commune with like-minded friends. It could be a great experiment.

 You're naive if you think that infrastructure will get built if everyone does only the jobs that they want to do and which make them happy (not to mention the fact that the raw materials for building infrastructure need to be procured).

In defense of this notion, if the desire and bids for certain infrastructure become high enough, people will drop what they are doing and build said infrastructure regardless of their passion. Everybody has their price.

For instance, if nobody wants to clean toilets but one guy or two really want a clean toilet to shit in and/or they get tired of the stench emanating from poorly maintained toilets, they will likely be willing to pay a premium to get toilets cleaned well beyond a standard minimum wage.

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October 16, 2012, 01:40:27 AM
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Work: People should do it because they want to do it, not because they're made to do it.

Sharing: People should do it because they want to do it, not because they're made to do it.

Skydiving: People should do it because they want to do it, not because they're made to do it.

Laundry: People should do it because they want to do it, not because they're made to do it.

College: People should do it because they want to do it, not because they're made to do it.

"Silk": People should do it because they want to do it, not because they're made to do it.

Sex: People should do it because they want to do it, not because they're made to do it.

AML and KYC paperwork: People should do it because they want to do it, not because they're made to do it.

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October 16, 2012, 02:55:49 AM
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No, money is possession, it is the opposite of sharing.  People will learn that giving feels good and is part of being happy.
So if a woman has possession of her body and refuses to have sex with men constantly, she's being a selfish bitch?
You still get to choose what you want to give.

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