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September 21, 2015, 08:31:49 PM
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Are there any modern ASICs available that are currently in production? I know the S7 is coming out soon. What about the Prospero and Avalon miners? I would like to find a stand-alone miner like the the Prospero X-1 that would perform useful work. Does anything like that exist? My searching is yielding results that were manufactured in 2014. My ideal rig that I am looking for would be self contained, include a PSU and work either by Ethernet or wifi and not be too loud (>150 GH/s <100 watts). Anything like that exist?

EDIT: I am changing my requirements to be anything that is quiet enough to be used in a living space. 1 TH/s 1000 watts is acceptable. Standalone preferred. RPI / PC conection acceptable.
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September 21, 2015, 09:35:09 PM
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http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale.  The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

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September 21, 2015, 09:47:12 PM
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Are there any modern ASICs available that are currently in production? I know the S7 is coming out soon. What about the Prospero and Avalon miners? I would like to find a stand-alone miner like the the Prospero X-1 that would perform useful work. Does anything like that exist? My searching is yielding results that were manufactured in 2014. My ideal rig that I am looking for would be self contained, include a PSU and work either by Ethernet or wifi and not be too loud (>150 GH/s <100 watts). Anything like that exist?

The hard part is you want a lot with not a lot of hash.   You can get a few options on small miners Gekko Sciences Compac miner but you would need a RPI or a computer to run it so not self contained.  Same with U3 needs RPI/Computer.

Most quiet fan miner I have used is avalon 4.1.  There are water cooling options.   But i'm afraid these are going to be a lot more watts then you are wanting.

Are you looking for small miner?  If so is using a RPI with it ok?
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September 21, 2015, 09:51:41 PM
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Are there any modern ASICs available that are currently in production? I know the S7 is coming out soon. What about the Prospero and Avalon miners? I would like to find a stand-alone miner like the the Prospero X-1 that would perform useful work. Does anything like that exist? My searching is yielding results that were manufactured in 2014. My ideal rig that I am looking for would be self contained, include a PSU and work either by Ethernet or wifi and not be too loud (>150 GH/s <100 watts). Anything like that exist?

The hard part is you want a lot with not a lot of hash.   You can get a few options on small miners Gekko Sciences Compac miner but you would need a RPI or a computer to run it so not self contained.  Same with U3 needs RPI/Computer.

Most quiet fan miner I have used is avalon 4.1.  There are water cooling options.   But i'm afraid these are going to be a lot more watts then you are wanting.

Are you looking for small miner?  If so is using a RPI with it ok?

I'm open to large amounts of hashing power too. I will edit my post. I want something that can run in a living room without being super loud. The BitCrane T-110S looks promising. I have used the Antminer U3 with my PC and I found it to be really flaky and it would stop mining frequently. Another small miner attached to my PC would be acceptable if it was reliable.
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September 21, 2015, 09:53:33 PM
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The bitcrane is extremely inefficient by today's standards. Get an antminer S5 or an avalon 4.1 or spondoolies sp20 as the outgoing most recent technology but you'll almost certainly have to try and find a second hand one.

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September 21, 2015, 09:59:33 PM
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I think then that you would be most comfortable with one or more the Compac stick miners. You'll was a USB hub assuming you want more than 10-12GH. Everything I've heard about the U# is that it is unreliable. You could also look at one of the Rbox 32GH miners used. Those are very reliable in my opinion, though they are more like 1W/GH. Very quiet, and need a PC to be attached via USB to a PC or Pi. I ran 3 on a Raspberry Pi for 6 months without intervention. They date from 2014.

In terms of the "small home mining" game, nothing recent will fit the bill. The s5 and new S7 are LOUD and hot.

Don't expect to make any money, maybe you break even over a long period of time.
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September 21, 2015, 10:04:04 PM
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As mentioned above, a used Avalon 4.1 will likely meet your desire for quiet, though it too needs a Raspberry Pi or TPlink support processor. They are only found used, and pretty pricey too boot. I have an SP20, and while it can be made quieter if down-clocked hard, it's hardly "Living Room" quiet. I think the S5 can be made quieter, but it's never going to be actually quiet.
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September 21, 2015, 10:09:44 PM
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As mentioned above, a used Avalon 4.1 will likely meet your desire for quiet, though it too needs a Raspberry Pi or TPlink support processor. They are only found used, and pretty pricey too boot. I have an SP20, and while it can be made quieter if down-clocked hard, it's hardly "Living Room" quiet. I think the S5 can be made quieter, but it's never going to be actually quiet.

I've played with SP20 and Avalon 4.1.  The 4.1 is just a lot more quiet. I have yet to see another fan miner compare to it, but it does cost more.

What is your electricity price OP? Before talking all these miners we should really see if you stand a chance at ROI.
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September 22, 2015, 03:13:06 AM
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My electricity costs 10¢ per kilowatt hour. I realize these miners may not pay for themselves, but I can use them to supplement my heating. Winter is coming.

How is the inefficient Bitcrane for quiet? Anyone know?
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September 22, 2015, 03:28:57 AM
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My electricity costs 10¢ per kilowatt hour. I realize these miners may not pay for themselves, but I can use them to supplement my heating. Winter is coming.

How is the inefficient Bitcrane for quiet? Anyone know?

Buy the s-3 I can get them really quiet . 

the bitcrane does like 1 watt per gh.

the s-3 does .75 -.80 watts per gh

if you clock the s-3 to 400gh it burns 300 watts and is pretty quiet.

If you live in the USA I CAN SELL YOU ONE with fan mods to be pretty quiet.

I am taking one off line this Thursday the 24th I could ship it to you if you are in the usa.

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September 22, 2015, 07:24:38 AM
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My electricity costs 10¢ per kilowatt hour. I realize these miners may not pay for themselves, but I can use them to supplement my heating. Winter is coming.

How is the inefficient Bitcrane for quiet? Anyone know?

Very inefficient in my mind they were always built for looks.   They looked great but never really had great sales.

As far as first miner S3 is not a bad one to learn with.  philipma1957 is a great guy if you are needing one I suggest talking to him about his already modded one.
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September 22, 2015, 08:45:18 AM
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http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale.  The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

 OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards".

 Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made.

 
 For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work.

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September 22, 2015, 03:39:31 PM
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http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale.  The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

 OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards".

 Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made.

 
 For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work.


I would not say any will work.  Some if you put it in room the sound will make it not very enjoyable.

I think some miners will be good for heating rooms.   Others would require mods to be suitable, and some would never be quiet enough in my mind. 

I'm not sure if I will even use the heat myself or if I will just leave in my mining area and enjoy them being out there come winter.  Still deciding.
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September 22, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
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http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale.  The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

 OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards".

 Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made.

 
 For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work.


He asked for 1W per Gh @ around 1000W, with a big requirement for it to be quite so I gave him what he asked for.  Only other options is Avalon 4.1 or if he wants to mess with water Antminer C1.

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September 22, 2015, 04:12:52 PM
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http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale.  The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

 OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards".

 Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made.

 
 For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work.


Not that I want to argue ,but

 the avalon 4.1 is the best at this -----  this will do 800gh at 425 watts really quiet  but it is costly and hard to find plus it needs a rasp pi

 next is the s-3 ---- this will do 400gh at 300-320  watts and with 1 fan mod  on the pull end is pretty quiet.   if you are handy  with resistor solder this can be made to to do 300 gh at 180 watts.

Since you need a space heater  either of the two above will be better then just spending the money on heat with no hash.


I like the s-3 better since it is cheaper then the avalon 4.1

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September 22, 2015, 04:22:00 PM
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http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale.  The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

 OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards".

 Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made.

 
 For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work.


Not that I want to argue ,but

 the avalon 4.1 is the best at this -----  this will do 800gh at 425 watts really quiet  but it is costly and hard to find plus it needs a rasp pi

 next is the s-3 ---- this will do 400gh at 300-320  watts and with 1 fan mod  on the pull end is pretty quiet.   if you are handy  with resistor solder this can be made to to do 300 gh at 180 watts.

Since you need a space heater  either of the two above will be better then just spending the money on heat with no hash.


I like the s-3 better since it is cheaper then the avalon 4.1

I would agree on Avalon 4.1 they are amazing machines.   They pack a punch at a very very quiet sound.   People really need to hear them in person to believe it.

You did hit the nail on the head is price.  It is what stopped many from getting an Avalon 4.1 new or used.  They just cost more.    But the S5 and SP gear I don't see ever reaching the Avalon 4.1 level.
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September 22, 2015, 09:15:07 PM
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With winter coming you could buy a cointerra and use it as a heater!

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September 23, 2015, 03:09:57 AM
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I found a T-110 on eBay but it is not the "S" version though. I will keep looking. It may not be the best but it appears that it will meet most of my requirements. I hope they are durable.
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I found a T-110 on eBay but it is not the "S" version though. I will keep looking. It may not be the best but it appears that it will meet most of my requirements. I hope they are durable.

There have been some good suggestions in this thread.  I would avoid Bitcrane.  Yes they look cool, but just are pretty dated.  And they never had a big following.

Look into some of the other miners mentioned.
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September 23, 2015, 04:44:40 AM
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I hope the next generation of mining hardware doesn't forget about home people. It's going to be interesting to see what the future brings. I will look into these good suggestions. I hope I can find something that will be compatible with my man-cave / den  Cool
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