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October 18, 2012, 12:07:55 AM |
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so you have no power on step 4 and no other power supplies to try?
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October 18, 2012, 12:09:25 AM |
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nope, well I have another one, but its a broken one xD
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sveetsnelda
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October 18, 2012, 12:15:34 AM |
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The fans spinning for a fraction of a second is almost always either a bad motherboard or a short wire somewhere.
^This! Make sure there isn't anything shorting anywhere. ...this includes BEHIND the motherboard against the case. Check for screws or anything else metallic behind the board.
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October 18, 2012, 12:16:08 AM |
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well then the only last thing I can suggest if you feel capable you can test power supply without it connected to anything by shorting out PS-on pin to ground and testing the voltage with a multi meter but its more than likely the motherboard but that would be the only way to know for sure without another power supply to test ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fa%2Fa9%2FATX_PS_signals.jpg%2F250px-ATX_PS_signals.jpg&t=665&c=F5hO6dOhclGqPQ)
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October 18, 2012, 12:18:22 AM |
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fan twitch with no POST is a dead short somewhere, the PSU is crowbaring to protect itself
build the system up outside the case in a minimum config...nothing but PSU, MOBO, CPU, VGA, and 1 stick of RAM, report back POST or no POST
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Epicblood (OP)
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October 18, 2012, 12:28:33 AM |
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fan twitch with no POST is a dead short somewhere, the PSU is crowbaring to protect itself
build the system up outside the case in a minimum config...nothing but PSU, MOBO, CPU, VGA, and 1 stick of RAM, report back POST or no POST
This has been suggested a few time already, same thing
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October 18, 2012, 12:43:19 AM |
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Yeah its a short which makes it one of the harder things to diagnose. Your vrm's on your motherboard or video card can be stuck open causing it to look like a short. Running more than one gpu on each power supply lead can even cause shorts in the wiring itself from damaging the connectors. Fallen screws can cause shorts. Who knows what else could have happened? So if you could borrow another power supply that's the best solution. Honestly I think its best to have an extra one around just in case. A high quality 400w power supply should only cost you 40 dollars or so and the nice thing is it can save you from having a down system
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October 18, 2012, 12:45:41 AM |
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fan twitch with no POST is a dead short somewhere, the PSU is crowbaring to protect itself
build the system up outside the case in a minimum config...nothing but PSU, MOBO, CPU, VGA, and 1 stick of RAM, report back POST or no POST
This has been suggested a few time already, same thing yes, I see, thanks has he built it outside the case yet?
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October 18, 2012, 12:51:05 AM |
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Make sure you have sound connected to the motherboard to hear if it posts cuz sometimes that could be a problem.
I had that happened to me, it would power one, fans move once and then everything stops. In my case my CPU died. If motherboard is dead it wouldn't even turn anything on and wouldn't have a light on it. If RAM is dead, the CPU fan would still be spinning. Also if its a power supply test it with the paper clip by itself.
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Epicblood (OP)
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October 18, 2012, 12:56:07 AM |
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No fans, not even CPU fan, no beeps, no screen, just a the CLR button is lit
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October 18, 2012, 01:03:54 AM |
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No fans, not even CPU fan, no beeps, no screen, just a the CLR button is lit
Have you tried booting without the GPU?
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October 18, 2012, 01:04:32 AM |
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yea
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sveetsnelda
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October 18, 2012, 01:39:03 AM |
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has he built it outside the case yet?
You skipped this. Your pictures look like the board is still in the case. Have you taken it out and ran it yet?
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Epicblood (OP)
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October 18, 2012, 02:10:37 AM |
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just tried that, still nada
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October 18, 2012, 02:27:57 AM |
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No fans, not even CPU fan, no beeps, no screen, just a the CLR button is lit
Hm, you wrote in your first post about how your fan just spin a bit, and I thought you may have same problem as I did. Sorry to say, but your fans look nasty, blow some compressed air through fans. Sometimes dust on motherboard itself can cause a short circuit.
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October 18, 2012, 02:37:29 AM |
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does your motherboard even have an onboard gpu? My motherboard normally won't post without a GPU in there.
FWIW I had the same thing happen to me after a motherboard died. Do you have anyone else's computer that you could test your PSU or GPU in? I would short my PSU pins like superfastkyle suggested to rule out PSU issue. Then it has to be the motherboard. It's unlikely your ram would completely die.
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October 18, 2012, 02:40:33 AM |
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Dude, not to bust your chops, but why in the world would you even waste your time mining with an Nvidia GTX 465? At most you're getting what, maybe 70 MH for 350-400 watts of power? For about .7 BTC ($8.50) a month, even at good power costs of .10 kwh, you'd pay $25 in power costs. So, you're losing $17 a month, not to mention risking killing your gear, which I think you've found out ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Regardless, try another PSU if you have one lying around to see if it's the PSU or mobo.
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Epicblood (OP)
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October 18, 2012, 02:41:12 AM |
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Just had my friend come over who is a complete hardware junkie, I def need a new motherboard :/ Was gunna buy a new rig anyway, might as well be out of necessity I guess :p
Maybe once I get my bitcoin games site up, I can make enough BTCBTC to pay for it all xD
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Epicblood (OP)
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October 18, 2012, 02:42:02 AM |
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Dude, not to bust your chops, but why in the world would you even waste your time mining with an Nvidia GTX 465? At most you're getting what, maybe 70 MH for 350-400 watts of power? For about .7 BTC ($8.50) a month, even at good power costs of .10 kwh, you'd pay $25 in power costs. So, you're losing $17 a month, not to mention risking killing your gear, which I think you've found out ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Regardless, try another PSU if you have one lying around to see if it's the PSU or mobo. I bought the GPU way before I started mining, that was my gaming PC xD
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October 18, 2012, 03:20:53 AM |
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Had similar problem fans moving just a tad, and a click from the PSU nothing else. Apparently It was my power supply Antec TP 650. A coil was shorting inside, apparently enamel had worn off where some glue on the coil has burned and was causing a short. Scraped off the carbonized glue and it started working again.
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