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Two sources close to Kentucky country clerk Kim Davis tell Breitbart News that the gay men whose demand for a marriage license started her on a path to jail for five days are again trying to get her locked up.These are the men who were seen on video shouting at Davis and demanding she issue them a marriage license in accord with the Supreme Court Obergefell decision that imposed gay marriage on the country. When she refused, Federal judge David Bunning jailed her for five days. While Davis was in jail, her staff issued a marriage license to the two men, though without her name attached to it. The license was issued in the name of the clerk’s office. The two men were satisfied, as was Judge Bunning and the Governor of the State of Kentucky. Upon her return, Davis began issuing licenses with “Pursuant to Federal Court Order” affixed. This newest version of Rowan County licenses did not affect the license issue to the two men . Even so, the men are back, saying the license they were so happy with a few weeks ago, is not sufficient They are demanding that Davis issue a new license with her name on it.It is as if the two men believe the Supreme Court ordered Davis specifically to issue marriage licenses rather than simply guaranteeing that someone will issue marriage licenses to them. This sets up yet another challenge for Davis and almost certainly for Judge David Bunning. Davis will without a doubt refuse. Bunning may determine that the men must be satisfied with the license they received. Davis is at the Values Voter Summit this week. You can see her and her husband surrounded by a scrum of supporters and media. She receives an award from the Family Research Council tonight. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/25/gay-men-want-kim-davis-back-jail/---------------------------------- The Pink Mafia in action. It was never about love
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/14/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-to-allow-marriage-licensesI just want to serve my neighbours quietly without violating my conscience. ------ The Pink Mafia in action. It was never about love --- Related http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/kim-davis-a-longtime-democrat-becomes-republican-amid-gay-marriage-fury-1.2581669Kentucky clerk Kim Davis, a longtime Democrat, says she is switching to the Republican Party because she feels abandoned by Democrats in her crusade against same-sex marriage. "I've always been a Democrat, but the party left me," Davis said, according to Bansley. She sparked a national furor by refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples after the Supreme Court effectively legalized gay marriage in June. A federal judge ordered Davis to issue the licenses, but she refused, and opted to spend five days in jail rather than license a gay marriage. The ordeal propelled her to folk hero status among some on the religious right. Davis was elected Rowan County clerk last fall as a Democrat. She replaced her mother, also a Democrat, who served as county clerk for 37 years. But Republicans, not Democrats, came to her defence. Davis meanwhile lumps blame for her legal problems on Steve Beshear, the state's Democratic governor, who refused to call the state legislature for a special session and allow lawmakers to hammer out a way to exempt religious clerks from issuing the licenses. The governor instead told clerks to either issue the licenses or resign.
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September 26, 2015, 04:43:43 AM |
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The gay couple should divorce then re marry. To prove to the world how much they love each other...
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September 26, 2015, 04:57:42 AM |
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The gay couple should divorce then re marry. To prove to the world how much they love each other... Gay "couples" marry only to gain welfare payments. Unlike the heterosexual couples, there is no loyalty to the spouse. "Married" homosexuals will continue to indulge in sex with perfect strangers, and it is very much accepted in the gay community. Already tax payers are bearing the burden of subsidizing HIV medications to these people ($10 billion every year, in the US). Why the taxpayers have to pay even more money out of their pocket?
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She's an elected official, she refuses to do her job, refuses to resign, she can't be fired, thus ends up in jail. I don't think she deserves to be in jail but she needs to leave her religious bullshit at the door where it belongs. Religion has no place in politics, it's just a convenient smokescreen to excuse bigotry and hatred.
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September 26, 2015, 02:55:50 PM |
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She's an elected official, she refuses to do her job, refuses to resign, she can't be fired, thus ends up in jail. I don't think she deserves to be in jail but she needs to leave her religious bullshit at the door where it belongs. Religion has no place in politics, it's just a convenient smokescreen to excuse bigotry and hatred.
So you agree the gays have no business forcing her to put her name on a piece of paper recognized as already perfectly fine and legal? Why can't they move along in their life with their love? She is irrelevant to them now anyway.
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September 26, 2015, 03:21:26 PM |
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She's an elected official, she refuses to do her job, refuses to resign, she can't be fired, thus ends up in jail. I don't think she deserves to be in jail but she needs to leave her religious bullshit at the door where it belongs. Religion has no place in politics, it's just a convenient smokescreen to excuse bigotry and hatred.
Really? Apply this principled approach universally or not at all. State officials really need to follow the Federal Drug Laws, don't they, and arrest any and everyone in possession of or selling marihuana. According to YOUR PRINCIPLES.
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First they where fine with their piece of paper without her name on it and now they heared she's out, they standing at her desk again?! these 2 fools are looking for a troffee to put up on their wall, arn't they...
i have nothing against gay, marry a smurf for all i care ,but those 2 .... that's just provocative and pathetic ...
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September 26, 2015, 03:33:56 PM |
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First they where fine with their piece of paper without her name on it and now they heared she's out, they standing at her desk again?! these 2 fools are looking for a troffee to put up on their wall, arn't they...
i have nothing against gay, marry a smurf for all i care ,but those 2 .... that's just provocative and pathetic ...
The longer they do this, the worse their ROI will be. I want them to camp at her office for the next 2 years...
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hahahahaha.... let's bring them soup during winter ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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hahahahaha.... let's bring them soup during winter ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 26, 2015, 05:39:33 PM |
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She's an elected official, she refuses to do her job, refuses to resign, she can't be fired, thus ends up in jail. I don't think she deserves to be in jail but she needs to leave her religious bullshit at the door where it belongs. Religion has no place in politics, it's just a convenient smokescreen to excuse bigotry and hatred.
In the past also there were similar incidents in the United States. What makes this incident different from the others, is the quantum of punishment given to the official. These sort of punishments were not given out in the past, as the judges were more lenient. Times have changed. The SCOTUS is now controlled by the extreme-left and the LGBT.
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She's an elected official, she refuses to do her job, refuses to resign, she can't be fired, thus ends up in jail. I don't think she deserves to be in jail but she needs to leave her religious bullshit at the door where it belongs. Religion has no place in politics, it's just a convenient smokescreen to excuse bigotry and hatred.
In the past also there were similar incidents in the United States. What makes this incident different from the others, is the quantum of punishment given to the official. These sort of punishments were not given out in the past, as the judges were more lenient. Times have changed. The SCOTUS is now controlled by the extreme-left and the LGBT. No. The actions are those of the US Attorney General, who is a puppet of Obama, who is a puppet of ....
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She's an elected official, she refuses to do her job, refuses to resign, she can't be fired, thus ends up in jail. I don't think she deserves to be in jail but she needs to leave her religious bullshit at the door where it belongs. Religion has no place in politics, it's just a convenient smokescreen to excuse bigotry and hatred.
In the past also there were similar incidents in the United States. What makes this incident different from the others, is the quantum of punishment given to the official. These sort of punishments were not given out in the past, as the judges were more lenient. Times have changed. The SCOTUS is now controlled by the extreme-left and the LGBT. No. The actions are those of the US Attorney General, who is a puppet of Obama, who is a puppet of .... ... The Pink Mafia Brotherhood...
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September 27, 2015, 01:52:51 AM Last edit: September 27, 2015, 02:21:35 AM by H1N1 |
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She's an elected official, she refuses to do her job, refuses to resign, she can't be fired, thus ends up in jail. I don't think she deserves to be in jail but she needs to leave her religious bullshit at the door where it belongs. Religion has no place in politics, it's just a convenient smokescreen to excuse bigotry and hatred.
Really? Apply this principled approach universally or not at all. State officials really need to follow the Federal Drug Laws, don't they, and arrest any and everyone in possession of or selling marihuana. According to YOUR PRINCIPLES. That's a dumb argument, smoking weed is totally like a specifically consitutionally protected act like marriage. If you want to make that argument then say something like "Then those that issued same sex marriage licenses when it was illegal should be arrested as well!" example And then I would say, I already said I don't think she belongs in jail. Not going to cry over it either though. Bigots who support laws based on bigotry should expect backlash.
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September 27, 2015, 09:43:32 PM |
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She's an elected official, she refuses to do her job, refuses to resign, she can't be fired, thus ends up in jail. I don't think she deserves to be in jail but she needs to leave her religious bullshit at the door where it belongs. Religion has no place in politics, it's just a convenient smokescreen to excuse bigotry and hatred.
Really? Apply this principled approach universally or not at all. State officials really need to follow the Federal Drug Laws, don't they, and arrest any and everyone in possession of or selling marihuana. According to YOUR PRINCIPLES. That's a dumb argument, smoking weed is totally like a specifically consitutionally protected act like marriage. If you want to make that argument then say something like "Then those that issued same sex marriage licenses when it was illegal should be arrested as well!" example And then I would say, I already said I don't think she belongs in jail. Not going to cry over it either though. Bigots who support laws based on bigotry should expect backlash. No, smoking weed isn't totally like a specifically constitutionally protected act. Exactly the opposite. 1. Marriage - State law issue. Until the recent Scotus decision. 2. Weed - Federal law issue. No Scotus decision. No "Right." A couple states make it legal, but it is still illegal at the federal level. So does State trump Federal when you want it to (weed) but Federal trumps State when you want that to (Marriage)? that's some screwed up thinking there. Really there are no principles involved here at are, are there? It's all about I want what I want and it's my right to get it my way and screw you. I am able to change my opinion here if you can present a logical method to show why your approach doesn't just mean no principles, and no rule of law.
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So does State trump Federal when you want it to (weed) but Federal trumps State when you want that to (Marriage)?
Yes. If the feds were to say same sex marriage is not okay, and states did it anyway, I would support that as well. That's because I support basic civil rights for human beings, marriage is one of them. that's some screwed up thinking there. Really there are no principles involved here at are, are there? It's all about I want what I want and it's my right to get it my way and screw you. I am able to change my opinion here if you can present a logical method to show why your approach doesn't just mean no principles, and no rule of law.
Yes, supporting giving people their rights back is horrible of me.
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September 28, 2015, 02:28:08 AM |
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So does State trump Federal when you want it to (weed) but Federal trumps State when you want that to (Marriage)?
Yes. If the feds were to say same sex marriage is not okay, and states did it anyway, I would support that as well. That's because I support basic civil rights for human beings, marriage is one of them. that's some screwed up thinking there. Really there are no principles involved here at are, are there? It's all about I want what I want and it's my right to get it my way and screw you. I am able to change my opinion here if you can present a logical method to show why your approach doesn't just mean no principles, and no rule of law.
Yes, supporting giving people their rights back is horrible of me. Then... The gays has no rights to force her to re-sign a document that is perfectly legal, and already signed and 100% valid. Would you agree with that?
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So does State trump Federal when you want it to (weed) but Federal trumps State when you want that to (Marriage)?
Yes. If the feds were to say same sex marriage is not okay, and states did it anyway, I would support that as well. That's because I support basic civil rights for human beings, marriage is one of them. that's some screwed up thinking there. Really there are no principles involved here at are, are there? It's all about I want what I want and it's my right to get it my way and screw you. I am able to change my opinion here if you can present a logical method to show why your approach doesn't just mean no principles, and no rule of law.
Yes, supporting giving people their rights back is horrible of me. Then... The gays has no rights to force her to re-sign a document that is perfectly legal, and already signed and 100% valid. Would you agree with that? Who said she was the boss of marriage ...she has been married 4 times..so much for the bible and living the law of her so called god..she is just homophobic.. she should not be put in prison she should be sacked for refusing to work.. its law that gays can get married..so she should sign the documents and if not then she should be sacked its as simple as that.. no one has to sign nothing if they don.t want to..but if your job requires you to then you sign and if you refuse then you go.. what i don.t understand is why as she not been sacked..if she was in the UK she be gone SACKED.. and good . AND I HOPE SHE GETS RUN OVER BY A BUS ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) PLANET BE BETTER OFF IF SHE DIED ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ITS HER RELIGION ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) SHE IS A SLUT SO SHE IS GOING TO HELL ALREADY IF THERE IS A HELL.. MIND YOU WITH A FACE AND A FAMILY LIKE HERS SHE IS ALREADY IN HELL THE UGLY TWAT THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM..THE HILL BILLIE UGLIES ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) SHE IS A HOMOPHOBIC FAT UGLY TWAT
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September 28, 2015, 03:07:05 AM |
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So does State trump Federal when you want it to (weed) but Federal trumps State when you want that to (Marriage)?
Yes. If the feds were to say same sex marriage is not okay, and states did it anyway, I would support that as well. That's because I support basic civil rights for human beings, marriage is one of them. that's some screwed up thinking there. Really there are no principles involved here at are, are there? It's all about I want what I want and it's my right to get it my way and screw you. I am able to change my opinion here if you can present a logical method to show why your approach doesn't just mean no principles, and no rule of law.
Yes, supporting giving people their rights back is horrible of me. Look can we just have some honesty here? You see something okay in Fed enforcing the marriage thing, but not in them enforcing the weed law? So who gets to pick and choose when and to whom to apply "law" to? Leaving aside for the moment that this constitutes the very reverse of law, who? No hiding behind vague slogans please.
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