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I think they will say there was something on Mars, used to be life or water, and then the question will be, what went wrong with Mars?
They'll use it to push the NWO/GlobalCitizens/Agenda2030, to push their climate change thing here, saying we have to shape up and get our acts in order to take care of this planet, because otherwise we'll end up like Mars.
Mars suffered a "climate change" and lost it's water. Do I win anything?Revelation! 40000 + strong views! You are like a little ant, always working hard. You've already won in my book... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) LMAO. Ahhh shucks. Thanks. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 28, 2015, 05:54:58 PM |
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I think they will say there was something on Mars, used to be life or water, and then the question will be, what went wrong with Mars?
They'll use it to push the NWO/GlobalCitizens/Agenda2030, to push their climate change thing here, saying we have to shape up and get our acts in order to take care of this planet, because otherwise we'll end up like Mars.
Mars suffered a "climate change" and lost it's water. Do I win anything?Revelation! 40000 + strong views! You are like a little ant, always working hard. You've already won in my book... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) LMAO. Ahhh shucks. Thanks. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) It's not "liquid water" but some sort of hydrated salt. The article in Nature's abstract is here. http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo2546.htmlThe hydrated salts most consistent with the spectral absorption features we detect are magnesium perchlorate, magnesium chlorate and sodium perchlorate. Our findings strongly support the hypothesis that recurring slope lineae form as a result of contemporary water activity on Mars.Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorate "Chorates are relatively toxic."This is not exactly human or animal or bacteria friendly stuff.
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September 28, 2015, 08:48:23 PM |
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The last option of the poll had me laughing pretty hard...
When Nasa announces something im more excited than a kid on Christmas morning. Its like finding something you lost years ago times 1000.
My pure guess - traces of H2O
Water discowered on mars long time ago. Polar caps on mars contains a lot of water. It's not a sensation. But finding living microorganisms on mars will be a sensation. That would be exciting. Im waiting for this. *I should have wrote - confirmed H2O instead of "traces of H2O" *NASA scientists found evidence of perchlorates, (hydrated minerals) which form the streaks on Mars’ surface. Before todays announcement, they were just guessing it was water. It will be incredible when we can actually bring back samples of ( fill in the blank ) back to earth for further study.
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September 28, 2015, 08:54:18 PM |
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The hydrated salts most consistent with the spectral absorption features we detect are magnesium perchlorate, magnesium chlorate and sodium perchlorate. Our findings strongly support the hypothesis that recurring slope lineae form as a result of contemporary water activity on Mars.Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorate "Chorates are relatively toxic."This is not exactly human or animal or bacteria friendly stuff. http://aem.asm.org/content/67/6/2499.full ?
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September 28, 2015, 09:04:47 PM |
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The hydrated salts most consistent with the spectral absorption features we detect are magnesium perchlorate, magnesium chlorate and sodium perchlorate. Our findings strongly support the hypothesis that recurring slope lineae form as a result of contemporary water activity on Mars.Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorate "Chorates are relatively toxic."This is not exactly human or animal or bacteria friendly stuff. http://aem.asm.org/content/67/6/2499.full ? SO....we just genetically modify humans to run on this stuff.... I'm afraid though, if they get to Earth, they burst into flames or blow up. LOL...
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September 28, 2015, 09:36:12 PM |
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[...] One concern this is raising for NASA is how to check out the areas with liquid water (presumably the best shot at finding life) without risking contaminating them with life from Earth. Personally I think that ship may have already sailed. We recently found plankton living on the outside of the space station so we’ve pretty much proven that extremophiles can live pretty much anywhere and can even survive for extended periods in the freezing vacuum and radiation of space. We do try to sterilize everything we launch, but are we that effective at the microbial level? I bet there’s already some Earth based microbes hanging out on Mars thanks to us. What I’d really like to see is some bacteria that’s actually Martian and figure out a way to bring it back and study it. If it has the same basic type of DNA as all the sub-microscopic critters on the Earth that might really tell us something about the solar system and the universe. (And before you ask, yes… bacteria have DNA. It’s just really simple and located in the nucleoid in the bacterial chromosome.) More to the point, if it’s completely different than any life on Earth, then it arose independently. That might really change our outlook on the world, eh? http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/28/big-nasa-mars-mystery-announcement-gets-watered-down/
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September 28, 2015, 11:42:47 PM |
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Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) )
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September 29, 2015, 12:41:19 AM |
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Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) We'll know in 2020 if life also exists there. A planned mission will return Martian soil to the Earth for analysis. Great time to be alive and not brainwashed! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 29, 2015, 03:19:07 AM |
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Yes, actually we can and have sent humans through the Van Allen belts.
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September 29, 2015, 03:21:02 AM |
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Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) We'll know in 2020 if life also exists there. A planned mission will return Martian soil to the Earth for analysis. Great time to be alive and not brainwashed! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That would be very, very interesting if it could return say, a thousand samples from diverse locations. Something like that might actually be near term possible these days.
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September 29, 2015, 03:35:58 AM |
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Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) We'll know in 2020 if life also exists there. A planned mission will return Martian soil to the Earth for analysis. Great time to be alive and not brainwashed! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That would be very, very interesting if it could return say, a thousand samples from diverse locations. Something like that might actually be near term possible these days. We do not have geostationary labs for deeper sample analysis... Yet there will be point when it would be safer to have a lunar base (for example), when we start bringing stuff back home.
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September 29, 2015, 03:46:48 AM |
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strong evidence, but still no hard proof.
will be nice when they are able to collect martian water with a drone
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September 29, 2015, 09:32:20 AM |
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Yes, actually we can and have sent humans through the Van Allen belts. Hate to have to collapse your world, but, if it was really done, the truth of it is not being told to us. The videos in the link are not concrete evidence of this lie. But examination of the moon flight pictures shows that it was all faked. http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 29, 2015, 12:04:19 PM |
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Yes, actually we can and have sent humans through the Van Allen belts. Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet?
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September 29, 2015, 02:07:57 PM |
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Yes, actually we can and have sent humans through the Van Allen belts. You are making no sense now. Please state your premises and supporting evidence. I am tired of looney Youtube links. Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet?
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September 29, 2015, 02:46:46 PM |
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Yes, actually we can and have sent humans through the Van Allen belts. Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet? You are making no sense now. Please state your premises and supporting evidence. I am tired of looney Youtube links. So you didn't want to watch the NASA engineer talk about the Van Allen belts in the first video? And you didn't watch the other man in NASA in "space" talking about how they can't get through the Van Allen belts and right now we can only fly in earth orbit and we "could" go to the moon if we could get through them? Keep your eyes closed, then.
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September 29, 2015, 03:28:49 PM |
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Yes, actually we can and have sent humans through the Van Allen belts. Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet? You are making no sense now. Please state your premises and supporting evidence. I am tired of looney Youtube links. So you didn't want to watch the NASA engineer talk about the Van Allen belts in the first video? And you didn't watch the other man in NASA in "space" talking about how they can't get through the Van Allen belts and right now we can only fly in earth orbit and we "could" go to the moon if we could get through them? Keep your eyes closed, then. I'm only simply asking that you produce facts, and figures to support your opinions instead of Youtube videos. No, I don't care to watch your videos and the idea that Youtube videos are some kind of "proof" is laughable. Astrophysics is a science. Buy a textbook or two. Van Allen belts are well studied. Look up the facts. From a simple Wikipedia 1 minute check. The Apollo missions marked the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts.....Astronauts' overall exposure was actually dominated by solar particles once outside Earth's magnetic field.
The total radiation received by the astronauts varied from mission to mission but was measured to be between 0.16 and 1.14 rads (1.6 and 11.4 mGy), much less than the standard of 5 rem (50 mSv) per year set by the United States Atomic Energy Commission for people who work with radioactivity.Emissions from the Sun are a major danger, not the Van Allen belts.
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September 29, 2015, 03:33:07 PM |
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Yes, actually we can and have sent humans through the Van Allen belts. Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet? You are making no sense now. Please state your premises and supporting evidence. I am tired of looney Youtube links. So you didn't want to watch the NASA engineer talk about the Van Allen belts in the first video? And you didn't watch the other man in NASA in "space" talking about how they can't get through the Van Allen belts and right now we can only fly in earth orbit and we "could" go to the moon if we could get through them? Keep your eyes closed, then. I'm only simply asking that you produce facts, and figures to support your opinions instead of Youtube videos. No, I don't care to watch your videos and the idea that Youtube videos are some kind of "proof" is laughable. Astrophysics is a science. Buy a textbook or two. Van Allen belts are well studied. Look up the facts. From a simple Wikipedia 1 minute check. The Apollo missions marked the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts.....Astronauts' overall exposure was actually dominated by solar particles once outside Earth's magnetic field.
The total radiation received by the astronauts varied from mission to mission but was measured to be between 0.16 and 1.14 rads (1.6 and 11.4 mGy), much less than the standard of 5 rem (50 mSv) per year set by the United States Atomic Energy Commission for people who work with radioactivity.Emissions from the Sun are a major danger, not the Van Allen belts. This is so funny, lol. I said people from NASA said we haven't been through the Van Allen belts. The proof that they said it is in the videos. I'm not arguing about whether or not we can. I'm not trying to prove we can or can't. But it's funny you think I am. I'm telling you the people from NASA said we can't. Why did they say that?
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September 29, 2015, 04:27:52 PM |
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Yes, actually we can and have sent humans through the Van Allen belts. Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet? You are making no sense now. Please state your premises and supporting evidence. I am tired of looney Youtube links. So you didn't want to watch the NASA engineer talk about the Van Allen belts in the first video? And you didn't watch the other man in NASA in "space" talking about how they can't get through the Van Allen belts and right now we can only fly in earth orbit and we "could" go to the moon if we could get through them? Keep your eyes closed, then. I'm only simply asking that you produce facts, and figures to support your opinions instead of Youtube videos. No, I don't care to watch your videos and the idea that Youtube videos are some kind of "proof" is laughable. Astrophysics is a science. Buy a textbook or two. Van Allen belts are well studied. Look up the facts. From a simple Wikipedia 1 minute check. The Apollo missions marked the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts.....Astronauts' overall exposure was actually dominated by solar particles once outside Earth's magnetic field.
The total radiation received by the astronauts varied from mission to mission but was measured to be between 0.16 and 1.14 rads (1.6 and 11.4 mGy), much less than the standard of 5 rem (50 mSv) per year set by the United States Atomic Energy Commission for people who work with radioactivity.Emissions from the Sun are a major danger, not the Van Allen belts. This is so funny, lol. I said people from NASA said we haven't been through the Van Allen belts. The proof that they said it is in the videos. I'm not arguing about whether or not we can. I'm not trying to prove we can or can't. But it's funny you think I am. I'm telling you the people from NASA said we can't. Why did they say that? I'm not concerned about some video that you think says something. You may have misunderstood it, their words may be taken out of context, whatever. "One person from NASA talking" is not "NASA." This isn't rocket science.
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