NASA has found water on MARS!!

[BADecker]

I don't see why you guys are excited about it , I'am pretty sure we are not going to live there and now one will ,even if we do it will be like shitload of years from now and it won't be that cheap .

So IMO cost for a single person to go to the Moon should be anywhere between $300 million to $600 million. Here I am considering that the costs will be halved at the least. And if several people are made to land on the Moon together, the figure might come down to as low as $100 million each.

Maybe they should start finding cures for diseases and help poor people instead of making useless trips , at least this is my opinion . space can wait

They don't want cures for people. What they want is medicine that helps people only a little. Then the people get sick again, and come back to buy more medicine. It's all about money.

Big Pharma gets money by making medicine, and NASA gets money by proposing stupidity like a Mars mission.

A bleach called MMS is curing all kinds of diseases. See http://mmsnews.org/. Look down below the video links for other website links, and read the info in this website itself.

The MMS people worked with the Red Cross in Africa to cure Malaria in 154 people in one day. Now the Red Cross won't admit that it worked. Here are two of the videos that it DID work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrwZN1cPfX8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jY2yab0uLc.

[Losvienleg]

So what this means ? let poor people die on hunger ? I'am not sure how you people think honestly because if the goverments don't give a shit about their citizens dying then I don't know who will .

They don't have any resources.Unlike you, who has inherited some dimes from your parents.You were brought up and fed by your MAMA PAPA.You are lucky to have these resources.
Trade your shoes with them and look at the shit they go through.
They were never the type of kid to wait by the door and pack there bags or sat on the porch and hoped and pray for a dad to show up who never did.
There state is their mother.

I never seen someone that was so poor that you describe it. A friend of mine has a cleaning company and even really poor people don't want to work on it because they are not so hungry to clean dead rats. We do not talk about orphans. Normally they have a dad and a mom (except with faggots). Those parents have a job, and if they do not have one, they have to make cleaning jobs or make signature campaigns   ! If they can't feed them by themselves why they don't go in the forest and eat something free ?

[apollofire]

Thats huge discovery of this century. Hope it is real. Quite happy Thanks

[acroman08]

Awesome liquid water on mars its very likely microbes will be living
In it.and im sure large deposit of liquid water will be down beneath it several hundred meters deep. Just hoping curiosity will dug up a fossil and then thats the
Big news for me.

[BADecker]

After watching the NASA video at http://www.space.com/27560-orion-capsule-test-flight-video.html, I wouldn't trust anything that NASA says.

First, the video seems to act like we never made it through the Van Allen Belts. One line the narrator, Kelly Smith, says talking about the radiation of the Van Allen Belts in the video, is, "...we must solve these challenges before we send people through these areas of space... ."

Well, did they solve those challenges in the Apollo missions, or not?

In addition, why a stupid space capsule when we could have revamped a Space Shuttle to do the job much easier?

See the posting war at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1191281.msg12566405#msg12566405 to see what I mean.

NASA is simply out to get more of your tax dollars.

[scott btc]

I'm confused by science words. Is there actually water or just evidence? Could I put it in the cup or no?

[saturn643]

Can someone explain why this is a big deal? I thought we already knew water was on Mars?

[Spendulus]

I'm confused by science words. Is there actually water or just evidence? Could I put it in the cup or no?

In at least one area on Mars, at a very limited time of the day and likely a limited time of the year, you could walk to one of the ravines showed in the picture, jump down in it, maybe dig a bit through cold, wet mud, and fill a cup with water. It wouldn't be something you could drink, no.

If you went too early you would find the ravine bottom hard icy mud.  If you went too late, a few hours after it was liquid, it might have all boiled off (if the temperature moved above about 10C) or it would have refrozen (if the temperature moved below 0C). 

But if you dug a well in that area, say two hundred meters down, it would always be liquid.  And it might possibly be clean water, if the sedimentary action is similar to here.   

[BADecker]

I'm confused by science words. Is there actually water or just evidence? Could I put it in the cup or no?

In at least one area on Mars, at a very limited time of the day and likely a limited time of the year, you could walk to one of the ravines showed in the picture, jump down in it, maybe dig a bit through cold, wet mud, and fill a cup with water. It wouldn't be something you could drink, no.

If you went too early you would find the ravine bottom hard icy mud.  If you went too late, a few hours after it was liquid, it might have all boiled off (if the temperature moved above about 10C) or it would have refrozen (if the temperature moved below 0C). 

But if you dug a well in that area, say two hundred meters down, it would always be liquid.  And it might possibly be clean water, if the sedimentary action is similar to here.   

I like science fiction.

You did quite a good job of writing in this sci-fi blurb. You might have a future in writing sci-fi.

 

[Losvienleg]

Can someone explain why this is a big deal? I thought we already knew water was on Mars?

We already knew it, this is true. But we didn't know that there was liquid water on Mars.

[neochiny]

ok NASA found water in mars.
so now they are claiming that there is a big possiblity
that there are someone or anyone can live in there?
lolz.. i dont think that this news is really a great progress for them.
and i hope they can do better than it.

[Lenore]

You just never know.  Someone stated that if there is life there that it came from mars.   Yet no one really knows for sure.  Whos to say our life didnt come from there.

Under the surface who is to say there isn't so called people that live strictly underground. 

We wont really know until we can get people on these planets to actually search and find out what it is people only have a theory about being there or also exactly how the atmosphere really is.

Until we can get there and see no one will truly know fr sure.  Im up for a trip

[Lauda]

that there are someone or anyone can live in there?
lolz.. i dont think that this news is really a great progress for them.
and i hope they can do better than it.

I did not have time to pitch in here before. Are you saying that this discovery is not of importance? Actually this is very important. While this wouldn't dramatically change the way that we understand Mars today, this gives us new hopes that there is life on Mars today. Liquid water is important because of the potential for life. All life on Earth requires water to survive (or almost all). This also makes the search for life easier than previously though and it might push the agency towards more missions on Mars.

You just never know.  Someone stated that if there is life there that it came from mars.   Yet no one really knows for sure.  Whos to say our life didnt come from there.

Absence of evidence is evidence? One can look at it like that as well.

[Spendulus]

You just never know. .....
Until we can get there and see no one will truly know fr sure.  Im up for a trip

The robots which are there can see more, longer, better than you or I.

They are doing a very nice job.

[BADecker]

Just remember, we have found water on comets, as well.   

[Spendulus]

Can someone explain why this is a big deal? I thought we already knew water was on Mars?

We already knew it, this is true. But we didn't know that there was liquid water on Mars.

This isn't exactly true.  From water on the poles, etc we can infer a "water cycle" on the planet.  But that's inferred.  The absence of a water cycle though is unthinkable, given that sometimes the ground temperatures are 80F.

A water cycle would mean liquid water in the ground is brought to the surface or nearly so, then boils off, then drifts to the poles, falls as snow and accumulates on the ground.  But then the depths of the ice caps might be melting, and subterranean flows carry the (liquid) water back towards the equator.

I'm not seeing the whole cycle, frankly, but there must be a lot of people trying to figure it out right now.

[mariding]

Even though it has no impact on most of life on earth, and we can do nothing with this information in the next few decades, it's good to know that there is water on mars, apparently moving around or something. I hope that in about 100 years, we can stop waging a wasteful war (on militias halfway around the world that pose less threat to US citizens than the cartels), to maybe set up colonies in mars.

[Spendulus]

You just never know.  Someone stated that if there is life there that it came from mars.   Yet no one really knows for sure.  Whos to say our life didnt come from there.

Under the surface who is to say there isn't so called people that live strictly underground. 
....

That would imply living strictly underground, with ZERO evidence of their existence above ground.  That seems unlikely.  A similar question would be something like "dolphins are intelligent, but there is no evidence of them "above ground."'

Mars is starting to shape up something like Arrakis, though...

[Lenore]

Just remember, we have found water on comets, as well.   

Yes Yes this is true.   

Also how do we know its really water.

Whos to say its not liquid nitrogen or something similar.  Not says exactly that but there are other liquids that it could possibly be.  Some do mimic water.  Especially if we can not get close enough to really find out.

Dunno just a thought.

Oh and Badeckr, guessing you like this section in the forum.   Always see you in it.

[BADecker]

Just remember, we have found water on comets, as well.   

Yes Yes this is true.   

Also how do we know its really water.

Whos to say its not liquid nitrogen or something similar.  Not says exactly that but there are other liquids that it could possibly be.  Some do mimic water.  Especially if we can not get close enough to really find out.

Dunno just a thought.

Oh and Badeckr, guessing you like this section in the forum.   Always see you in it.

Oh Lenore, who are you? All these new names in the forum, and no way to know if somebody simply started a new handle, or if it really is someone new.