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October 03, 2015, 05:30:24 PM
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Following on from the Trust list visualisations thread and the ethics consultation thread, I've decided to release the analysis of a tool which may be able to identify multiple accounts which belong to the same owner. While some of the results are statistically significant, this should still only constitute one piece of evidence of a link between accounts.

The methodology is less important than the output, which can be confirmed and visualised manually.
  • The addition of "DefaultTrust" is excluded and not counted
  • Trust lists with only "DefaultTrust" (unedited) are not included
  • The polarity of ratings is taken into account
  • Certain users like KWH have giant trust lists and so they break the system a bit. Should be excluded

Along with potentially linked accounts, the list below has 2 numerical metrics attached:
  • Complexity: A measure of how complicated the trust lists being looked at are. The scale is a bit weird in this version, starting at 0.3 for 1 item and going up by 0.3 for each additional item
  • Similarity: A measure of how similar trust lists between the users are. 1.0 = identical lists, anything below 0.8 is discarded for now but there are many positive results from this range to be reviewed later.

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October 03, 2015, 05:30:28 PM
Last edit: October 04, 2015, 07:35:13 PM by dogie
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Below is a highly filtered list of the first batch of information. Notes:
  • I may provide a dump of all information at some point (100s and 100s of matches), but I want to be sure this won't be used to witchhunt the low probability links.
  • The below was manually checked however weird ones might still have gone through.
  • Based off 12th Sept trust dump, simply because its the one I already had loaded. Results are unlikely to change.
  • Data isn't being spat out in a nice form so formatting will look meh for now. I'll add in some of my other table codes in time.
  • The current version outputs in pairs, and so a 3+ way identification would appear as A|B, B|C over two lines
  • Manually moved blocks of names together
  • Each name in the trust list denominated with an &

Person APerson BSimilarityComplexityPerson A's Trust ListPerson B's Trust List
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
.....Really?megahash0.844.66neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_Vod&neg_starsoccer9&PatMan&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&IY…
&IYFTech&neg_iglasses&neg_bbeesley&neg_s0br&cathoderay&neg_ThePhwner&neg_instaha
neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins…
ins&neg_s0br&cathoderay&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quickseller&neg_fire000&mavericklm
IYFTechmegahash0.934.81neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_SebastianJu&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&neg_starsoccer9&squ…
squall1066&PatMan&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins&Spondoolies-Tech&neg_s0br&
neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins…
ins&neg_s0br&cathoderay&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quickseller&neg_fire000&mavericklm
bartokjogebe0.823.01Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
bartoklgtx0.862.70Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
bartoknomtka0.972.85Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
bartokteddy220.803.16Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
jogebeKujmandosz0.963.01Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
jogebelgtx0.963.01Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
jogebenolanglenn0.862.25Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartok
jogebeteddy220.973.46Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
nolanglennnomtka0.872.10Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
Kujmandoszlgtx0.882.70RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosznomtka0.852.85RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
Kujmandoszteddy220.943.16RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
lgtxnolanglenn0.881.95Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartok
lgtxnomtka0.972.85Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
lgtxteddy220.943.16Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
Cryptogurujogebe0.902.55Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Cryptogurulgtx0.932.25Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Cryptogurunomtka0.912.40Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
Cryptoguruteddy220.892.70Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
bbithashie1.000.60neg_Vod&neg_Blazrneg_Vod&neg_Blazr
bitcoinbearPeter Lambert0.900.75Peter Lambert&MPOE-PR&BCBMPOE-PR&BCB
bitzoxfuruknap0.911.50theymos&John (John K.)&Jutarul&MPOE-PR&burnside&TradeFortress&ThickAsThievesJohn (John K.)&MPOE-PR&burnside
daggermanleevalle0.910.75haploid23&Bitcoins101haploid23&Bitcoins101&coory
DogecoinDarkForkeningTheThreadReporter0.920.75neg_pc888&neg_bitLeap&neg_fosco333neg_bitLeap&neg_fosco333
DragooonEquate1.000.60escrow.ms&americandesiescrow.ms&americandesi
BitcoinPlusBusMarketMagic0.931.80mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatormammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
egghead123MarketMagic0.832.25mdtspain&mammix2&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis&Indic…
dicators
mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
fydeljadefalke0.801.80Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototypfydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototyp
godmode3DJohnStyles1.001.20neg_ACCTseller&neg_Quickseller&adzino&jorgelugraneg_ACCTseller&neg_Quickseller&adzino&jorgelugra
HolgerDanskPatSNL0.882.55opentoe&philipma1957&Bicknellski&klondike_bar&neg_dogie&sidehack&Stratobitz&c…
z&cathoderay&pekatete&neg_Muhammed Zakir&neg_Quickseller
Bicknellski&neg_dogie&sidehack&Stratobitz&cathoderay&pekatete
jddebugKIDC0.871.50Luke-Jr&abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknight&elgreco&KIDC&nairb131abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknight
k2_1971TheEvilOne0.900.75awgilyas&ArcticWolfieawgilyas&ArcticWolfie&k2_1971
KSSyRenity0.985.87HostFat&dooglus&Maged&gmaxwell&bitpop&Carnth&OgNasty&CanaryInTheMine&John (Jo…
(John K.)&Tomatocage&SaltySpitoon&ineededausername&DeaDTerra&BadBear&burnside&es
HostFat&dooglus&Maged&gmaxwell&bitpop&Carnth&OgNasty&CanaryInTheMine&John (Jo…
(John K.)&Tomatocage&SaltySpitoon&ineededausername&DeaDTerra&BadBear&burnside&es
mltasksolidvip0.951.05neg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclopsneg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&CPNpr
CPNprmltask0.823.16neg_Vod&neg_Tomatocage&Antuam&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&neg_randombit&neg_BrianM&…
nM&neg_Memminger&neg_quasimodo&neg_PolyCoin-Team&solidvip&RentCute.com&Susi.D&ne
neg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops
HaembiMota0.8515.65sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&grue&Maged&MemoryDealers&Kluge&evoorhees&rb1205&jwzguy&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&
sirius&theymos&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&dilatedPi…
dPixel&phantastisch&paraipan&danieldaniel&pekv2&Ukyo&SaltySpitoon&ineededauserna
Motascalar330.9013.69sirius&theymos&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&dilatedPi…
dPixel&phantastisch&paraipan&danieldaniel&pekv2&Ukyo&SaltySpitoon&ineededauserna
sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&Maged&Kluge&rb1205&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&tysat&dilatedPixel&Graet&Mic
mrflibblehatZirconPool1.000.60htp_23&blueshibehtp_23&blueshibe
onemorebtconemorexmr0.916.62jgarzik&Pieter Wuille&Luke-Jr&gmaxwell&evoorhees&smooth&TECSHARE&-ck&neg_smoo…
moothie&Vod&John (John K.)&Tomatocage&DeathAndTaxes&BadBear&Blazr&DannyHamilton&
theymos&jgarzik&Pieter Wuille&Luke-Jr&dooglus&gmaxwell&smooth&TECSHARE&OgNast…
asty&-ck&neg_smoothie&Vod&John (John K.)&neg_Tomatocage&DeathAndTaxes&BadBear&ne
Pokokohua!Pry4u0.891.65Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&Inaba&gmaxwell&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
Pokokohua!SLok0.891.65Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&Inaba&gmaxwell&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
Pry4uSLok1.000.90Inaba&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
RaizeU1TRA_L0RD0.895.11Keefe&casascius&John (John K.)&ngzhang&legolouman&xiangfu&gateship&serp&sahka…
hkan&last2stand
theymos&Keefe&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&casascius&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&S…
d&Stemby&ziomik&John (John K.)&ercolinux&ngzhang&legolouman&xiangfu&diego1000&ga

Person APerson BSimilarityComplexityPerson A's Trust ListPerson B's Trust List
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
cathoderaylobogil0.764.51CanaryInTheMine&neg_Vod&neg_starsoccer9&neg_DiamondCardz&PatMan&neg_sdp&Bickn…
cknellski&neg_dogie&IYFTech&neg_ghash.io&neg_CEX&neg_crilleaz&neg_s0br&pekatete&
neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&neg_sdp&neg_dogie&neg_s0br&neg_ThePhwner&neg_ACCTseller&n…
r&neg_Quickseller&neg_fire000
blarneystonep3yot33at3r0.696.92neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&eleuthria&-ck&kano&Xian01&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_AMT…
AMT_miners&neg_rikkie&neg_hashcoins&cathoderay&pekatete&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quicks
neg_Luke-Jr&Matt Corallo&neg_Inaba&eleuthria&phelix&-ck&neg_Vod&kano&philipma…
pma1957&Bicknellski&neg_marto74&neg_dogie&domob&FallingKnife&neg_AMT_miners&neg_
IYFTechPatMan0.568.57neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_SebastianJu&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&neg_starsoccer9&squ…
squall1066&PatMan&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins&Spondoolies-Tech&neg_s0br&
neg_Inaba&eleuthria&gmaxwell&scribe&-ck&yxt&Mjbmonetarymetals&MrTeal&neg_Diam…
iamondCardz&squall1066&piit79&Easy2Mine&cupofsoup&Bicknellski&hotwired007&edgar&
FreekiieeL3pje0.791.95p_wetsteijn&alphapilot&L3pje&corp&Destrega&KoningSilkp_wetsteijn&alphapilot&corp&Freekiiee&Destrega&KoningSilk&bitspender
ercolinuxziomik0.764.36HostFat&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ziomik&Cripto&marnem&palatinetheymos&HostFat&wariner&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&bitcoin…
oinplaza&ZuonKing&bertani&Cripto&alexrossi&Pitchotto&androz&gdassori&ghibly79&ma
fydelHermann13370.762.10Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototypfydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenet
Hermann1337jadefalke0.762.10fydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenetfydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototyp
Hermann1337Sy0.762.10fydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenetXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
baby222scarsbergholden0.761.35qwep&Argwai96&marcotheminer&Cryptockqwep&Argwai96&baby222&Cryptock&jonson234
bitcoinplazaHostFat0.764.66theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertanitheymos&dooglus&gmaxwell&rb1205&paci&neg_CanaryInTheMine&Stemby&ziomik&neg_Vo…
_Vod&ercolinux&BadBear&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Cripto&gdassori&ghibly79&
fydelPrototyp0.762.25Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototypfydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenet
jadefalkePrototyp0.762.25fydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototypfydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenet
aikunsatudezoel0.751.35dezoel&Punggawa&lakepopo&(0_0)izanagi&Punggawa&lakepopo&(0_0)&aikunsatu
Prototypvertoe0.748.42fydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenetfydel&blizzen&Pago85&iHeartSmartArt&FreedomCoin&oaxaca&Sy&rdnkjdi&BrainShutdo…
tdown&atomicchaos&mikaelh&losh11&smtn512&bertlebbert&tombtc&kiindje&AizenSou&spl
BitcoinPlusBusegghead1230.741.95mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatormdtspain&mammix2&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis&Indic…
dicators
androzbitcoinplaza0.743.31paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertani
VERUMinNUMERISVlad2Vlad0.736.77markm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
satoshi&Gavin Andresen&markm&Oldminer&twobits&Nasakioto&kelsey&Stunna&edgar&a…
r&ahmed_bodi&Jdtmp4&shakezula&deadsea33&iGotSpots&AZIZ1977&VERUMinNUMERIS&r3wt&a
DRKLorddrkprincess0.722.702dogs&BitcoinPappi&LouReed&cooldgamer&notserp&theonewhowaskazu&Interized&vert…
ertoe&turtlehurricane&jamesbond700&xXBEVOXx&drkprincess
2dogs&BitcoinPappi&notserp&vertoe&xXBEVOXx&DRKLord
SolomonRisingVlad2Vlad0.726.92satoshi&markm&Oldminer&Nasakioto&frobley&kelsey&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNU…
nNUMERIS&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&IXC2XIC
satoshi&Gavin Andresen&markm&Oldminer&twobits&Nasakioto&kelsey&Stunna&edgar&a…
r&ahmed_bodi&Jdtmp4&shakezula&deadsea33&iGotSpots&AZIZ1977&VERUMinNUMERIS&r3wt&a
blizzenfydel0.723.31SebastianJu&yxt&qwk&mameise&Haeralith&fronti&bitcats&Akka&Sy&Aggrophobia&dark…
arkfriend77&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
bitdanielfrelex0.721.352weiX&John (John K.)&candoo&Menig2weiX&John (John K.)&Tomatocage&Akka&Menig
cinnamon_carterphoton_coin0.712.85satoshi&dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&fedde&photon_coin&chiguireitor&m…
r&mmpool&electron-coin&mrbodi&lithiumc
dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&chiguireitor&mmpool&elec…
lectron-coin&mrbodi
Stembyziomik0.715.26HostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
theymos&HostFat&wariner&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&bitcoin…
oinplaza&ZuonKing&bertani&Cripto&alexrossi&Pitchotto&androz&gdassori&ghibly79&ma
androzZuonKing0.712.85paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
HostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
StembyZuonKing0.702.85HostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
HostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
jadefalkevertoe0.707.97fydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototypfydel&blizzen&Pago85&iHeartSmartArt&FreedomCoin&oaxaca&Sy&rdnkjdi&BrainShutdo…
tdown&atomicchaos&mikaelh&losh11&smtn512&bertlebbert&tombtc&kiindje&AizenSou&spl
palatineStemby0.703.46HostFat&Stemby&ziomik&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi&androz&marnem&LairewHostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
jleeflynishtrip150.692.85OgNasty&Cray-1&Inglewood&monbux&nahtnam&firejuan&jamiecruickshank&death_hawk&…
wk&Coinbuddy&cr4sh0verride&firepredator&thealtcoinguy
Cray-1&Inglewood&jamiecruickshank&death_hawk&firepredator&matt2matt&markus8539
ArcticWolfieTheEvilOne0.691.05awgilyas&arielbit&k2_1971&TheEvilOneawgilyas&ArcticWolfie&k2_1971
PRabruneks0.691.95Gavin Andresen&jgarzik&casascius&Pieter Wuille&goatpig&gmaxwell&etotheipiGavin Andresen&jgarzik&Pieter Wuille&JoelKatz&etotheipi&friedcat
HostFatZuonKing0.694.21theymos&dooglus&gmaxwell&rb1205&paci&neg_CanaryInTheMine&Stemby&ziomik&neg_Vo…
_Vod&ercolinux&BadBear&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Cripto&gdassori&ghibly79&
HostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
Hermann1337Prototyp0.672.55fydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenetfydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenet
SolomonRisingVERUMinNUMERIS0.673.46satoshi&markm&Oldminer&Nasakioto&frobley&kelsey&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNU…
nNUMERIS&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&IXC2XIC
markm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
ercolinuxStemby0.663.31HostFat&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ziomik&Cripto&marnem&palatineHostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
DragonDmGitraxe0.660.90itraxe&Eugenok&vanyabiosEugenok&DragonDmG&vanyabios
twbtyxt0.661.50phantastisch&qwk&fronti&Akka&lassdas&Neupleuqwk&fronti&Akka&rage1337
harlemxhashcoins0.631.50Killa&n00ber&hashcoinsharlemx&Killa&n00ber&oomi0010&Umberg&johny08&1DanieL
IXC2XICVlad2Vlad0.636.77theymos&Tomatocage&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&shakezula&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNUM…
NUMERIS&Dexter44&iampingu&KeyserSozeMC
satoshi&Gavin Andresen&markm&Oldminer&twobits&Nasakioto&kelsey&Stunna&edgar&a…
r&ahmed_bodi&Jdtmp4&shakezula&deadsea33&iGotSpots&AZIZ1977&VERUMinNUMERIS&r3wt&a
corpFreekiiee0.631.35p_wetsteijn&L3pje&Freekiieep_wetsteijn&alphapilot&L3pje&corp&Destrega&KoningSilk
einsteinium.bizOldminer0.635.41Oldminer&djnocide&Armis&einsteiniumneg_dooglus&edric&elkrisi&neg_jackjack&Moray&fhh&neg_aa&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNUME…
UMERIS&bitdigger2013&Redcoin&neg_Spoetnik&IXC2XIC&z21770179&IronMarvel&mrlotto&b
corpL3pje0.621.50p_wetsteijn&L3pje&Freekiieep_wetsteijn&alphapilot&corp&Freekiiee&Destrega&KoningSilk&bitspender
fydelSy0.621.80Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&PrototypXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
jadefalkeSy0.621.80fydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&PrototypXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
bitcoinplusorgMarketMagic0.622.70satoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
CJBiancoLesbian Cow0.616.02smoothie&Scott J&dozerz&bigtimespaghetti&BG4&monkeynuts&miffman&saveawedge&ma…
&master-P&TookDk&Mitchełł&cyclops&Blazedout419&FiniteByDesign&hilariou
OgNasty&TookDk&djjacket&cyclops&Blazedout419&snarlpill&TheAnalogKid
TookDkwheresmycoin0.602.25PsychoticBoy&philipma1957&escrow.ms&monkeynuts&master-P&tyrion70&Mitcheł…
22;ł&djjacket&Blazedout419&iglasses&CryptoImperator&neg_WoodCollector
bigtimespaghetti&CryptoImperator&WoodCollector
eneloopPaintShopPro60.601.05CanaryInTheMine&SebastianJu&SilentSonicBoomCanaryInTheMine&iluvpcs&SilentSonicBoom&vnhyp0
dobbscoinEndCiv0.600.60EndCiv&Robert_Doriandobbscoin&Robert_Dorian
PaintShopPro6vnhyp00.591.50CanaryInTheMine&iluvpcs&SilentSonicBoom&vnhyp0CanaryInTheMine&iluvpcs&SilentSonicBoom&TracerX&babaji.ca&PaintShopPro6
DRKLordshadowhax0.592.402dogs&BitcoinPappi&LouReed&cooldgamer&notserp&theonewhowaskazu&Interized&vert…
ertoe&turtlehurricane&jamesbond700&xXBEVOXx&drkprincess
BitcoinPappi&notserp&jbreen1&turtlehurricane
komodovpnmrflibblehat0.590.90jeffersonairplane&Bryce1733&htp_23&ACCTsellerhtp_23&blueshibe
komodovpnZirconPool0.590.90jeffersonairplane&Bryce1733&htp_23&ACCTsellerhtp_23&blueshibe
PrototypSy0.592.25fydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenetXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
cinnamon_carterlithiumc0.582.70satoshi&dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&fedde&photon_coin&chiguireitor&m…
r&mmpool&electron-coin&mrbodi&lithiumc
satoshi&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&photon_coin&BlakeBitcoin&elec…
lectron-coin
abracadabrajddebug0.571.50wknight&jddebug&KIDCLuke-Jr&abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknight&elgreco&KIDC&nairb131
lithiumcphoton_coin0.572.25satoshi&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&photon_coin&BlakeBitcoin&elec…
lectron-coin
dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&chiguireitor&mmpool&elec…
lectron-coin&mrbodi
luv2drnkbrMicon0.572.10theymos&Gavin Andresen&FreeMoney&casascius&evoorhees&Micon&FassadeGavin Andresen&FreeMoney&casascius&dooglus&evoorhees&iCEBREAKER&MsBitcoin
blarneystonePatSNL0.563.61neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&eleuthria&-ck&kano&Xian01&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_AMT…
AMT_miners&neg_rikkie&neg_hashcoins&cathoderay&pekatete&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quicks
Bicknellski&neg_dogie&sidehack&Stratobitz&cathoderay&pekatete
Breen2543rouf5530.561.35rouf553&rig007&cryptomaker22Wardrick&cryptostore07&Breen2543&rig007&cryptomaker22&Online24o0n
palatineziomik0.564.51HostFat&Stemby&ziomik&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi&androz&marnem&Lairewtheymos&HostFat&wariner&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&bitcoin…
oinplaza&ZuonKing&bertani&Cripto&alexrossi&Pitchotto&androz&gdassori&ghibly79&ma
KIDCwknight0.553.16abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknightruss&JWU42&strombom&heinz&abracadabra&GenTarkin&juggalodarkclow&jddebug&elgre…
greco&KIDC&RoboCoder&chynnc&terrapinflyer&hayseed&insanetackle&DaveF&Coopster888
abracadabrawknight0.553.16wknight&jddebug&KIDCruss&JWU42&strombom&heinz&abracadabra&GenTarkin&juggalodarkclow&jddebug&elgre…
greco&KIDC&RoboCoder&chynnc&terrapinflyer&hayseed&insanetackle&DaveF&Coopster888
2501algorista0.542.10andrehorta&DanielBTC&algorista&duduqa&Adrianosatoshi&theymos&ThiagoCMC&pafu&rudrigorc2&andrehorta&2501&DanielBTC&duduqa
bitcoinplusorgegghead1230.542.85satoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
mdtspain&mammix2&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis&Indic…
dicators
ArcticWolfieawgilyas0.541.50awgilyas&arielbit&k2_1971&TheEvilOneBitweasil&DebitMe&SilentSonicBoom&ArcticWolfie&k2_1971&TheEvilOne
androzStemby0.544.21paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
HostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
alexr_96SUPERANTONIO0.521.35jaime&VEscudero&LuisCar&ioxoi&Antuam&SUPERANTONIOflix&LuisCar&Antuam
Coiner.dephantastisch0.524.66stellan0r&phantastisch&Akka&trepex&Zephirtheymos&molecular&stellan0r&tysat&SebastianJu&yxt&qwk&neg_Matthew N. Wright&J…
t&John (John K.)&Tomatocage&neg_candoo&BadBear&frank600&fhh&Akka&neg_Freedom24&C
androzarulbero0.513.16paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
HostFat&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Pitchotto&mars78&ghibly79
IXC2XICVERUMinNUMERIS0.503.31theymos&Tomatocage&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&shakezula&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNUM…
NUMERIS&Dexter44&iampingu&KeyserSozeMC
markm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
DiThiReCat0.501.20theymos&Rassah&Wolf0&ReCatedd&Rassah&DiThi&Wolf0
le4chnationTRICHED0.500.60TRICHED&NUMORPHONEle4chnation&NUMORPHONE
NUMORPHONETRICHED0.500.60TRICHED&le4chnationle4chnation&NUMORPHONE
malevnolanglenn0.890.90Kujmandosz&RaymondKaKujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartok
Haembiscalar330.8619.41sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&grue&Maged&MemoryDealers&Kluge&evoorhees&rb1205&jwzguy&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&
sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&Maged&Kluge&rb1205&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&tysat&dilatedPixel&Graet&Mic
ahmed_bodiahmedbodi0.812.55westkybitcoins&Jdtmp4&krasnyoktyabr&coinerd&sumantso&Vlad2Vlad&r3wt&ahmedbodi…
odi&fishy&majsta&gary492&bitezze&coinbloke&saxman717&mrbodi
ahmed_bodi&mrbodi
BitcoinPlusBusbitcoinplusorg0.882.40mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatorsatoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
nolanglennteddy220.862.40Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
resUnioCShrishti0.841.95neg_Vod&neg_Blazr&neg_arallmuus&neg_JorgeStolfi&CoinFriend&neg_deluxeCITY&neg…
neg_Quickseller&Shrishti&Sr.Vamp&neg_costgranda&neg_jorgelugra
CoinFriend&Sr.Vamp
Cryptogurumalev0.851.20Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa
lgtxmalev0.831.65Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa
bartokmalev0.831.65Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa
traslatwbt0.881.35phantastisch&qwk&Akkaphantastisch&qwk&fronti&Akka&lassdas&Neupleu

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This list is considered low probability. It really doesn't mean much without a lot of other information in order to confirm a link.

Person APerson BSimilarityComplexityPerson A's Trust ListPerson B's Trust List
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CPNprsolidvip0.623.31neg_Vod&neg_Tomatocage&Antuam&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&neg_randombit&neg_BrianM&…
nM&neg_Memminger&neg_quasimodo&neg_PolyCoin-Team&solidvip&RentCute.com&Susi.D&ne
neg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&CPNpr
bitcoinplazaZuonKing0.751.95theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertaniHostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
MiningBuddynimda0.741.20CanaryInTheMine&BadBitcoin (James Sutton)dooglus&John (John K.)&Bees Brothers&BadBitcoin (James Sutton)&IveBeenBit&Kouye
CyberRatJansen2270.720.90PsychoticBoy&Jouke&MitchełłPsychoticBoy&dnaleor&Mitchełł
djcoinTak0.672.85Gavin Andresen&Luke-Jr&Carnth&SebastianJu&-ck&Vod&John (John K.)&kano&Tomatoc…
tocage&Xian01&burnside&crashoveride54902&klondike_bar
theymos&Gavin Andresen&gmaxwell&-ck&kano&burnside
Shadow_RunnerXVzN0.670.90neg_xetsr&sandy-is-finenish2011&jaydipm&sandy-is-fine&kenscho
galbrosmicky1230.662.25dooglus&Stunna&dogedice.metheymos&dooglus&Vod&Tomatocage&BadBear&omahapoker&antonlevay&dogedice.me&Samp…
amperio&neg_SarcasmMe&neg_detective2015&v1rtu0so
danielpbarronpummle0.663.61nanotube&davout&Stephen Gornick&kakobrekla&Azelphur&pankkake&Immuzikation&dpb…
dpb&GlooBoy&MPOE-PR&BCB&TheButterZone&Atruk&nubbins&fluffypony&railzand&NotLambc
davout&Tomatocage&MPOE-PR&BCB&ThickAsThieves&fluffypony
Foofighterthomashrev890.661.95allinvain&PsychoticBoy&Akka&puffmais&intron&blackarrow&Menig&paul3&itxtutor&c…
r&cscape
friedcat&intron&cscape
maxpowerPolyatomic0.652.10CanaryInTheMine&John (John K.)&Entropy-uc&JCDentonGraet&CanaryInTheMine&John (John K.)&Maidak&dadj&Augusto Croppo&pidge&J.Socal…
cal&Entropy-uc&QuiveringGibbage
bitcoinplazaU1TRA_L0RD0.634.81theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertanitheymos&Keefe&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&casascius&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&S…
d&Stemby&ziomik&John (John K.)&ercolinux&ngzhang&legolouman&xiangfu&diego1000&ga
KouyeMuhammed Zakir0.6310.38Maged&tysat&jackjack&malevolent&Vod&Tomatocage&SaltySpitoon&MPOE-PR&DannyHami…
amilton
satoshi&sirius&theymos&Gavin Andresen&neg_Luke-Jr&dooglus&Maged&gmaxwell&tysa…
ysat&dserrano5&OgNasty&-ck&jackjack&malevolent&neg_JoelKatz&paraipan&Vod&John (J
Korbmanlnternet0.621.20theymos&lightboxlightbox&TwinWinNerD&Craftyman&DeathAndTaxes&quarzazatete&djingodjango
frontitrasla0.621.50gmaxwell&2weiX&yxt&qwk&Akka&sacko&twbtphantastisch&qwk&Akka
AtrukPeter Lambert0.601.65Gavin Andresen&kakobrekla&Micon&pankkake&greyhawk&rini17&MPOE-PR&DannyHamilto…
lton&ThickAsThieves
MPOE-PR&BCB
ahmedbodiVERUMinNUMERIS0.561.95ahmed_bodi&mrbodimarkm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
aminorexeizh0.553.01Anon136&dooglus&gmaxwell&smooth&tacotime&rpietila&David Latapie&fluffypony&Bi…
&BitChick&xulescu&eizh&othe&NoodleDoodle&papa_lazzarou&CTTE&GingerAle
smooth&fluffypony&jayaitch&NoodleDoodle
alka66ZuonKing0.551.65HostFat&paci&ziomik&MirkoIta&alexrossi&cryptobtcxHostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
elasticbandWeppel0.552.70Mabsark&bbxx&friedcat&PsychoticBoy&Rampion&corrow&michaelangelo&600watt&EnJoy…
JoyThis&gidi337&btcapparel&stevenf&aphorise&Fireblade&MisterLG
PsychoticBoy&EnJoyThis&elasticband
DrahogErusielEl Extranjero0.541.80TECSHARE&John (John K.)&Mushroomized&SaltySpitoon&dozerz&lukemarshall&The 4ne…
4ner&Nightowlace&El Extranjero&jakedeez
The 4ner&DrahogErusiel
edn247neleonele0.541.20Biomech&presstab&cecilbdementedthundertoe&Biomech&batesresearch&presstab&shavers
DiThiedd0.531.35theymos&Rassah&Wolf0&ReCatSgtSpike&Rassah&Phinnaeus Gage&DeathAndTaxes&ReCat
hamza171sorryforthat0.531.35alani123&shdvb&ChiliPowder&CoolRunnings21&QuicksellerOgNasty&BadBear&ChiliPowder&Quickseller
PurePwnageSusi.D0.521.20neg_Blazr&neg_aa&neg_MRKLYEneg_Vod&neg_MRKLYE&neg_goodnightcoin&neg_ABitNut&neg_Bitcoin-Police
albertinarulbero0.851.35mars78&ghibly79HostFat&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Pitchotto&mars78&ghibly79
IndicatorsMarketMagic0.851.35egghead123&logocreatormammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
BitcoinPlusBusIndicators0.871.05mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatoregghead123&logocreator
albertinkelpy0.861.05mars78&ghibly79alexrossi&mars78&ghibly79&marnem&Anon39
thedreamertranscyberian0.890.90philipma1957&727minerstarsoccer9&philipma1957&727miner&nicehash
CyberRatdnaleor0.930.75PsychoticBoy&Jouke&MitchełłPsychoticBoy&Mitchełł
bitcoinplusorgIndicators0.831.95satoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
egghead123&logocreator
mrmuellertrasla0.861.80phantastisch&SebastianJu&qwk&mameise&Akka&Aggrophobia&trepex&Menig&darkfriend77phantastisch&qwk&Akka


Visualisation of the 1st and 2nd batches of names:
  • Red'er names = larger potential alt network
  • blue'er = smaller protential alt network
  • Red edges (joining lines) = stronger trust list association
  • blue = weak trust list association

 

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I won't post in the other thread to say that I support this (since it would be a useless post) and you've already posted the tool. The analysis and system used is actually very interesting to say at least. This might also be the tipping stone in some cases where it was already 'probable' that X was alt of Y.
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Trust lists with only "DefaultTrust" (unedited) are not included
Let me get this straight, so users without edited lists are completely excluded? I used to have an alt (I doubt that anyone besides an admin even knew about it) with a unedited list. This means that you could to identify that account as my probable alt, correct?

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The question is how accurate this analysis is?
it may get some legit users in problem also, how it was done and what is its accuracy
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Person APerson BSimilarityComplexityPerson A's Trust ListPerson B's Trust List
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Pokokohua!Pry4u0.891.65Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&Inaba&gmaxwell&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
Pokokohua!SLok0.891.65Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&Inaba&gmaxwell&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
Pry4uSLok10.9Inaba&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh

I miss those Butterfly Labs folks... I wonder if any of them has been hit by a bus / random falling space debris, or have come down with some painful incurable affliction since they left the forums.

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The question is how accurate this analysis is?
it may get some legit users in problem also, how it was done and what is its accuracy

It's simply a tool. I doubt that any real alt-finding will be on the sole basis of this proof; it'll be more like another small evidence bit that accompanies more substantial proof.

I won't post in the other thread to say that I support this (since it would be a useless post) and you've already posted the tool. The analysis and system used is actually very interesting to say at least. This might also be the tipping stone in some cases where it was already 'probable' that X was alt of Y.
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Let me get this straight, so users without edited lists are completely excluded? I used to have an alt (I doubt that anyone besides an admin even knew about it) with a unedited list. This means that you could to identify that account as my probable alt, correct?

From what I understand, if your alt has an unedited list (just DefaultTrust in it), then the tool will exclude your alt.
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October 03, 2015, 06:07:50 PM
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I won't post in the other thread to say that I support this (since it would be a useless post) and you've already posted the tool. The analysis and system used is actually very interesting to say at least. This might also be the tipping stone in some cases where it was already 'probable' that X was alt of Y.
Yeah I think that's the main use of this. "Hmm just scambusted that guy, lets see if he could still be floating about".

Let me get this straight, so users without edited lists are completely excluded? I used to have an alt (I doubt that anyone besides an admin even knew about it) with a unedited list. This means that you could to identify that account as my probable alt, correct?
I could NOT identify your alt if it had just "DefaultTrust" in its trust list. Accounts with an unedited trust list aren't included in the trustlist dump Theymos provides.


The question is how accurate this analysis is?
it may get some legit users in problem also, how it was done and what is its accuracy
As I said in the other thread, the methodology isn't important on this one as you can do a human check across the two trust lists (I've added a shortened version alongside). Its as accurate as you want it to be and could be entirely useless in some cases but pretty strong in others.

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got me Wink
onemorebtc is an alt of me. but i dont use it for posting anymore

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Interesting and watching

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October 03, 2015, 06:44:44 PM
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Along with potentially linked accounts, the list below has 2 numerical metrics attached:
  • Complexity: A measure of how complicated the trust lists being looked at are. The scale is a bit weird in this version, starting at 0.3 for 1 item and going up by 0.3 for each additional item
  • Similarity: A measure of how similar trust lists between the users are. 1.0 = identical lists, anything below 0.8 is discarded for now but there are many positive results from this range to be reviewed later.

Do you consider incoming trust as well as outgoing?

If someone is 'farming' trust, they will probably be leaving positive trust on multiple alts at a time. Recognising such patterns could maybe make your tool stronger.

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October 03, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
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Do you consider incoming trust as well as outgoing? If someone is 'farming' trust, they will probably be leaving positive trust on multiple alts at a time. Recognising such patterns could maybe make your tool stronger.

No it doesn't although its worth remembering this is trust lists, not trust ratings. Being trusted by multiple people is hard to factor in although it could be used as an end stage check to see if accounts are cross trusting each other.

For the time being I'll be working on visualisation and automation of the interpretation so I don't have to manually review 1,000s of them.

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re. "Data isn't being spat out in a nice form so formatting will look meh for now. I'll add in some of my other table codes in time."
You mentioned using Excel to generate this? If so, could you dump/export this to Google Docs, formulas & all?  
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Just to make sure we are on the same page. This is a measure how similar peoples trust lists are as well as a measure how large (as in complex) the average trust list between the two is. complexity(A,B) := [Count(A)*.3 + Count(B)*.3] / 2

It does however not - assuming here, please correct me if Im wrong - take into account how likely it is for someone to end up on a given trust list in the first place. From the trust.txt I downloaded just a few minutes ago I see that - as expected - certain users are more often on someones list than others. You have a top list for this as well IIRC in your other thread. E.g. theymos is on 170 different trust lists, dogie on 34.

I also cant follow the premise that a person would use an identical (or very similar) trust list over multiple accounts.

To sum it up, what makes you draw the conclusion that similarity of trust lists has anything to do with alt accounts?

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re. "Data isn't being spat out in a nice form so formatting will look meh for now. I'll add in some of my other table codes in time."
You mentioned using Excel to generate this? If so, could you dump/export this to Google Docs, formulas & all?  

I meant that the final data the analysis spits out isn't neccesarily interpretable or useful for humans straight away and requires a significant amount of post processing. Turning it from Excel into forum code isn't a problem, I have plenty of translators from my PSU / company table based guides I can reuse.

There's quite a lot of manual work and some Excel only add-ons which would prevent Google Doc replication, but results could be published there. I'm still reluctant to dump a raw list without forcing a 'reasonable' interpretation on the information, I don't want this list to be weaponised.

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October 03, 2015, 08:20:25 PM
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Just to make sure we are on the same page. This is a measure how similar peoples trust lists are as well as a measure how large (as in complex) the average trust list between the two is. complexity(A,B) := [Count(A)*.3 + Count(B)*.3] / 2
The closest thing you'll find to this is the Jaccard index.

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You take two sample sets. You count the attributes shared by both samples (call this Z). You count the attributes observed in only one sample (call this X). You then count the attributes observed in only the other sample (call this Y). Finally, you can calculate the similarity index by using the three counts in this operation: Z / (Z+X+Y).


It does however not - assuming here, please correct me if Im wrong - take into account how likely it is for someone to end up on a given trust list in the first place. From the trust.txt I downloaded just a few minutes ago I see that - as expected - certain users are more often on someones list than others. You have a top list for this as well IIRC in your other thread. E.g. theymos is on 170 different trust lists, dogie on 34.
It does not, that's why I'm manually screening anything I release at the moment, there are plenty of "strong correlation" results I filtered out because they're common results. Depending on how much time I invest in this, I may filter out some of the top people altogether.


I also cant follow the premise that a person would use an identical (or very similar) trust list over multiple accounts.
They do, because for anyone not in DefaultTrust (99% of people), the only utilisation for their trust list is to show who's ratings they want to see. And regardless of which account they're using those preferences generally remain constant.


To sum it up, what makes you draw the conclusion that similarity of trust lists has anything to do with alt accounts?
Past experience.

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Though bbit did not initially belong to hashie. It was bought.

I also cant follow the premise that a person would use an identical (or very similar) trust list over multiple accounts.
They do, because for anyone not in DefaultTrust (99% of people), the only utilisation for their trust list is to show who's ratings they want to see. And regardless of which account they're using those preferences generally remain constant.
x LoLz... no.

To sum it up, what makes you draw the conclusion that similarity of trust lists has anything to do with alt accounts?
Past experience.
x Wrong learning.
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Channeling my inner Techshare


Okay so now you've basically proven there are people abusing the DT, what's next?


Are you going to next tell us that people are wrongfully removed from DT because they speak out against injustice?


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October 04, 2015, 04:08:09 PM
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Just to make sure we are on the same page. This is a measure how similar peoples trust lists are as well as a measure how large (as in complex) the average trust list between the two is. complexity(A,B) := [Count(A)*.3 + Count(B)*.3] / 2
The closest thing you'll find to this is the Jaccard index.

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You take two sample sets. You count the attributes shared by both samples (call this Z). You count the attributes observed in only one sample (call this X). You then count the attributes observed in only the other sample (call this Y). Finally, you can calculate the similarity index by using the three counts in this operation: Z / (Z+X+Y).

Thanks for that.

It does however not - assuming here, please correct me if Im wrong - take into account how likely it is for someone to end up on a given trust list in the first place. From the trust.txt I downloaded just a few minutes ago I see that - as expected - certain users are more often on someones list than others. You have a top list for this as well IIRC in your other thread. E.g. theymos is on 170 different trust lists, dogie on 34.
It does not, that's why I'm manually screening anything I release at the moment, there are plenty of "strong correlation" results I filtered out because they're common results. Depending on how much time I invest in this, I may filter out some of the top people altogether.

Which could be argued to bring in bias since it relies on your perspective and past experiences.

I also cant follow the premise that a person would use an identical (or very similar) trust list over multiple accounts.
They do, because for anyone not in DefaultTrust (99% of people), the only utilisation for their trust list is to show who's ratings they want to see. And regardless of which account they're using those preferences generally remain constant.


To sum it up, what makes you draw the conclusion that similarity of trust lists has anything to do with alt accounts?
Past experience.

It did not for Quickseller and the (now known) alt, just to name one example of someone with a hidden alt and a highly modified trust list.

There are different ways to get the same result and only the direct copy would be noticable by your reasearch. Additionally for those that actively try to hide their alts its very easy to manipulate their list in such a way that they no longer end up over 0.8 or any other limit for that matter.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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