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You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.
I dont know where you get this from bu there is no such thing as pure skill based game. If there is a pure skill based game then only those skilled in the game will dominate it, luckily there is none and there is only combination of skill and luck based game which makes the result totally unpredictable even if you are skilled in it How about the games like drag racing? It's purely skill based and people bet on that. You can bet money too as a player. Boxing is another example of this. Literally all types of sports are skilled based game that you can gamble on. That's 100% skill based. I think you're putting a limit on your thinking. You're just thinking of this dice, roulette, etc. Those are purely luck based but gambling is not limited to that. People bet on almost everything. Even the presidency, people gamble on that. I agree that skill based games are better to bet on rather than the luck based casino games. However you should be knowing that many games are fixed and the money-lines are manipulated in ways to make to gamblers bet on the party who is fixed to lose. Also psychologically the players manipulate the gamblers buy fixing some games themselves - like winning the first game and losing the next and then winning the next in a set of tennis. So in the end I think it only depends on your luck in case you manage to bank the fixed game properly or not
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January 21, 2017, 04:05:44 PM |
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Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.
All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.
And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.
Indeed, all gamblers who are addicts have their own mental issue, because once they've loss big amount, he/she became stress and depress. Therefore all gamblers always thinking they will win the games, even they know their money is already melted of losing the games.
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January 21, 2017, 04:45:46 PM |
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You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.
I dont know where you get this from bu there is no such thing as pure skill based game. If there is a pure skill based game then only those skilled in the game will dominate it, luckily there is none and there is only combination of skill and luck based game which makes the result totally unpredictable even if you are skilled in it How about the games like drag racing? It's purely skill based and people bet on that. You can bet money too as a player. Boxing is another example of this. Literally all types of sports are skilled based game that you can gamble on. That's 100% skill based. I think you're putting a limit on your thinking. You're just thinking of this dice, roulette, etc. Those are purely luck based but gambling is not limited to that. People bet on almost everything. Even the presidency, people gamble on that. Im not sure wether you are stupid or pretending to be one (?). It has been stated clearly in the bolded part , the bolded part actually means that you literally bet in a skill based game which means that it literally means most casino games or even poker. It is lame that you dont read first before trying to put this kind of post
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January 22, 2017, 06:06:09 AM |
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Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.
Yeah, whatever gambling game you are going to play, you are bound for losing. And if you think that playing casino online and real will differs, still you are bound for losing. It is just a matter on how you are going to take the advantage when you are winning while the money is still your hands, it's on how you are going to keep them. This is false, there are casino games where you cannot win the long run like dice or games like that but there are games that if you have skill you can make profits games like poker which you can learn online or you can sports bet and make good profits. So what do you think if 5 of you are online and playing poker and beating against each other. Do you think that it is false that all of you are going to win? Or you are going to believe that only a chosen one has the chance to win and all of you are bound for losing? And besides I don't treat gambling money as profit because you didn't work for it. It is impossible for everyone to win since gambling it is a zero sum game, it is even possible that no one wins even in a poker table because of the rake every casino takes from every pot, but if you are against weaker players than you then your expected value it is positive and you will make some earnings in the long run, it is not about luck but about mathematics.
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January 22, 2017, 12:52:25 PM Last edit: January 22, 2017, 01:05:26 PM by Botnake |
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Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.
Yeah, whatever gambling game you are going to play, you are bound for losing. And if you think that playing casino online and real will differs, still you are bound for losing. It is just a matter on how you are going to take the advantage when you are winning while the money is still your hands, it's on how you are going to keep them. This is false, there are casino games where you cannot win the long run like dice or games like that but there are games that if you have skill you can make profits games like poker which you can learn online or you can sports bet and make good profits. So what do you think if 5 of you are online and playing poker and beating against each other. Do you think that it is false that all of you are going to win? Or you are going to believe that only a chosen one has the chance to win and all of you are bound for losing? And besides I don't treat gambling money as profit because you didn't work for it. It is impossible for everyone to win since gambling it is a zero sum game, it is even possible that no one wins even in a poker table because of the rake every casino takes from every pot, but if you are against weaker players than you then your expected value it is positive and you will make some earnings in the long run, it is not about luck but about mathematics. I doubt if you really know gambling well, in the first place, why would people gamble when it's impossible to win, knowing that it's impossible to win and still do gambling is only making them fool. I know it's very hard to win in gambling due to the edge they have and lack of discipline in our part but I don't think we cannot have a good day in gambling, we will experience a win and we have to make sure that is huge enough to quit.
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January 22, 2017, 01:45:09 PM |
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I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.
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January 22, 2017, 02:40:03 PM |
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why would people gamble when it's impossible to win, knowing that it's impossible to win and still do gambling is only making them fool. I know it's very hard to win in gambling due to the edge they have and lack of discipline in our part but I don't think we cannot have a good day in gambling, we will experience a win and we have to make sure that is huge enough to quit.
Theoretically you cant win in gambling especially in the long run, you can only win in the long run when there is variance although it is quite rare. A player win almost 300 btc few days ago and after wagering for that much he should have lost however variance actually was on his side and he won from the site
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January 22, 2017, 03:40:22 PM Last edit: January 22, 2017, 08:01:57 PM by MMA |
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Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.
Yeah, whatever gambling game you are going to play, you are bound for losing. And if you think that playing casino online and real will differs, still you are bound for losing. It is just a matter on how you are going to take the advantage when you are winning while the money is still your hands, it's on how you are going to keep them. This is false, there are casino games where you cannot win the long run like dice or games like that but there are games that if you have skill you can make profits games like poker which you can learn online or you can sports bet and make good profits. So what do you think if 5 of you are online and playing poker and beating against each other. Do you think that it is false that all of you are going to win? Or you are going to believe that only a chosen one has the chance to win and all of you are bound for losing? And besides I don't treat gambling money as profit because you didn't work for it. It is impossible for everyone to win since gambling it is a zero sum game, it is even possible that no one wins even in a poker table because of the rake every casino takes from every pot, but if you are against weaker players than you then your expected value it is positive and you will make some earnings in the long run, it is not about luck but about mathematics. but i think there are so many people who are even making good money in gambling and specially in sports gambling. because in sports gambling you have the advantage to use your previous experience, knowledge and skill, but it is a fact the most gambling games depend on your luck except sports gambling.
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January 22, 2017, 04:48:43 PM |
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Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.
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January 22, 2017, 05:01:09 PM |
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I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.
yeah actually it has proven by a lot of research about how much chance a player can win against house edge? the answer was below 1 percent or so. pretty clear i guess for everyone to avoid gambling for making profit . do it for entertainment purpose only , it wouldn't be a matter at all even you always lost.
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diegz
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January 23, 2017, 12:50:48 AM |
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Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.
Even if you control your self, in the long run you will still lose. That's how gambling works and how the owner profit. The more you believe that when you control your self in gambling you will not lose, the more you will stay in the website and the more you will lose in the long run. Though some people really believe that there is something at the end of the line in gambling, that's not true, the result of gambling is unpredictable, what is predictable is you will lose money and time there.
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January 23, 2017, 02:26:54 AM |
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Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.
Even if you control your self, in the long run you will still lose. That's how gambling works and how the owner profit. The more you believe that when you control your self in gambling you will not lose, the more you will stay in the website and the more you will lose in the long run. Though some people really believe that there is something at the end of the line in gambling, that's not true, the result of gambling is unpredictable, what is predictable is you will lose money and time there. If you lose in gambling in the long run even if you have control in yourself then there might be wrong in the way you are gambling. Maybe you don't learn from your previous mistakes and keep repeating them that's why you are not earning any profit from your gambling for a long time. If you know how to control yourself in gambling then you won't let the casino take your money easily. And take any profit from the beggining you win some amounts.
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January 23, 2017, 02:48:17 AM |
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Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.
Yeah, whatever gambling game you are going to play, you are bound for losing. And if you think that playing casino online and real will differs, still you are bound for losing. It is just a matter on how you are going to take the advantage when you are winning while the money is still your hands, it's on how you are going to keep them. This is false, there are casino games where you cannot win the long run like dice or games like that but there are games that if you have skill you can make profits games like poker which you can learn online or you can sports bet and make good profits. So what do you think if 5 of you are online and playing poker and beating against each other. Do you think that it is false that all of you are going to win? Or you are going to believe that only a chosen one has the chance to win and all of you are bound for losing? And besides I don't treat gambling money as profit because you didn't work for it. It is impossible for everyone to win since gambling it is a zero sum game, it is even possible that no one wins even in a poker table because of the rake every casino takes from every pot, but if you are against weaker players than you then your expected value it is positive and you will make some earnings in the long run, it is not about luck but about mathematics. but i think there are so many people who are even making good money in gambling and specially in sports gambling. because in sports gambling you have the advantage to use your previous experience, knowledge and skill, but it is a fact the most gambling games depend on your luck except sports gambling. i think sports betting is different than other gambling games, because in sports betting we need to know almost all about each of team so we can make prediction. but in other gambling games, maybe only a few of that games that need to analyze so finally we will be looses in the long run.
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January 23, 2017, 05:25:07 AM |
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I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.
yeah actually it has proven by a lot of research about how much chance a player can win against house edge? the answer was below 1 percent or so. pretty clear i guess for everyone to avoid gambling for making profit . do it for entertainment purpose only , it wouldn't be a matter at all even you always lost. I don't even think that it is going to be lesser than 1 percent because most of the time we are less fortunate with gambling and it is making us lose all the time. No matter how we are going to be good at any gambling game, higher chances of losing is always there. There might be people who are really lucky enough but they are really one of the kind and that's not going to happen to us.
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diegz
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January 23, 2017, 05:30:22 AM |
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Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.
Even if you control your self, in the long run you will still lose. That's how gambling works and how the owner profit. The more you believe that when you control your self in gambling you will not lose, the more you will stay in the website and the more you will lose in the long run. Though some people really believe that there is something at the end of the line in gambling, that's not true, the result of gambling is unpredictable, what is predictable is you will lose money and time there. If you lose in gambling in the long run even if you have control in yourself then there might be wrong in the way you are gambling. Maybe you don't learn from your previous mistakes and keep repeating them that's why you are not earning any profit from your gambling for a long time. If you know how to control yourself in gambling then you won't let the casino take your money easily. And take any profit from the beggining you win some amounts. Well, that's not always the case. Sometimes even if you have techniques or whatever that we do to make losing slow down, if not prevented it's not enough, remember, when we are betting, we depend on luck and not just any beliefs to win. Actually from the beginning, I don't believe that a gambler don't find a way to make himself comfortable in betting. But still, in the end and in the long run you will still lose, though you could win one time or few times, when you sum it up, you still lose in time and money.
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January 23, 2017, 06:29:25 AM |
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Well, that's not always the case. Sometimes even if you have techniques or whatever that we do to make losing slow down, if not prevented it's not enough, remember, when we are betting, we depend on luck and not just any beliefs to win.
There is no such thing as believing that you will win. If everyone keep losing and no one wins then how is it possible that people keep coming back to the site? There is a thin line between a smart and a lousy gambler, for me I dont keep on rampaging my money when I lose in fact I tend to find and gamble EV + bet
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January 23, 2017, 06:57:33 AM |
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Well, that's not always the case. Sometimes even if you have techniques or whatever that we do to make losing slow down, if not prevented it's not enough, remember, when we are betting, we depend on luck and not just any beliefs to win.
There is no such thing as believing that you will win. If everyone keep losing and no one wins then how is it possible that people keep coming back to the site? There is a thin line between a smart and a lousy gambler, for me I dont keep on rampaging my money when I lose in fact I tend to find and gamble EV + bet Yeah, because believing without doing the right action is not enough to win, it should be both present as the factors that is necessary to win in gambling. We cannot just believe in our self and just trust our luck to give us something we are expecting, it's not realistic anymore and most likely we will just lose and blame ourselves in the end.
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January 23, 2017, 09:02:06 AM |
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Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.
It is really one of the hardest way to make money if you are going to treat gambling as source of your income. And it is already fated that a gambler will just lose in the end. So instead of thinking and aiming that you are going to win some amount, its better that you are just going to enjoy every single satoshi's that you are going to bet and just have fun.
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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
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January 23, 2017, 09:10:22 AM |
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I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.
Most people start to gamble with an idea of having fun and entertainment in the first place. However the fun soon starts out to be an addiction due to tempting win of other players, jackpots, occasional bonuses that casino offer. In the end we have the same result - an addicted gambler about to become a beggar and ruin their live. Its important to control your emotions while gambling. Otherwise you will have the same fate as everyone else - zero balance.
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January 23, 2017, 02:36:39 PM |
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I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.
Most people start to gamble with an idea of having fun and entertainment in the first place. However the fun soon starts out to be an addiction due to tempting win of other players, jackpots, occasional bonuses that casino offer. In the end we have the same result - an addicted gambler about to become a beggar and ruin their live. Its important to control your emotions while gambling. Otherwise you will have the same fate as everyone else - zero balance. we all start gamble with no idea we are just reading mechanics or how the gamble works well if you had already experience or incounter any kind of gambling you can't say that you are professional already. Becoming addicted is when you chasing your lose from gambling or trying to hit the jackpot that can't you even get atleast 10% of it.
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