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January 27, 2017, 09:50:29 PM
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I will say it actually depends on the position one is looking at losses in gambling in the log run for individuals engaging in gambling like myself and couple of others, I will say yes it is true but same thing cannot be said to the gambling site which will continue to win whether short term or long term simply because 'the house will always win' for them there is never losses in the long run and that is why for the reputable gambling sites, they have stayed with us for years and still counting.
The house always win in long term because the more time passes the more people wager and hence the bigger profits for the site owner. In short term the wagered amount is less and hence some gamblers might win but as wagered amount increases gamblers loose more. You can see any gambler's profile on primedice and u will notice heavy bettors always in loss.
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January 28, 2017, 12:51:04 AM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

Even though sports betting need skills to predict accurate results but at the end to win luck is a must factor because nowadays many matches have been fixed so we can't guess just based on their past performance. Also if you're very sure it is always good to bet only small amount instead going for big amount. Because it is alway a gambling and anything can happen.
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January 28, 2017, 01:26:15 AM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

Even though sports betting need skills to predict accurate results but at the end to win luck is a must factor because nowadays many matches have been fixed so we can't guess just based on their past performance. Also if you're very sure it is always good to bet only small amount instead going for big amount. Because it is alway a gambling and anything can happen.
It already happened a long time ago but we just open our eyes lately, it is because of the internet where information are easily shared for us to judge. I believe we have great chances this days since the information is open for free and we can use this to analyse games we like to bet. If we lose still in the long run, that means our skills is not enough to be exceptional.

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January 28, 2017, 08:10:49 AM
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Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.

As quoted profiting from gambling is really hard. Lucky people get it easy, but luck too won't stand long. While understanding the real facts and knowing the limits user could have lost some amount on gambling. Gambling for fun alone gives a positive vibe as well an excitement.

People who are lucky do well at gambling but I am a very unlucky person and hence I prefer to work for my money rather than let luck earn it for me.

Again if we think that luck is always with us then we are making a big mistake because luck has the bad habit of simply slipping away from our hands.

We have to have proper self control which is why the emotional part is very important in gambling. If we cant control our emotions the we are going to lose no matter what. Its important also to cash out early and not keep on gambling.

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January 28, 2017, 11:52:57 AM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

As i said i don't want to take risk, even i know in small bet my money is already on the risk, and i am not winning all the time in gambling.
But i think you are wrong said that sports betting doesn't need Superior Skills? You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet, especially in sports betting, because other than games don't need skills because they are luck base game.
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January 28, 2017, 12:10:05 PM
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I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.
If you open a poll then you will see 99% of people agreeing to it but still 90% of those guys would still gamble and of course for fortunes and quick profits only.

It is almost like studies we all know that it would be good for us and our future but yet we are always lazy to do that, the opposite of that is gambling. Maybe the next generation people at least gamble for right reason and must stay safer.
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January 28, 2017, 01:12:18 PM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.  

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

As i said i don't want to take risk, even i know in small bet my money is already on the risk, and i am not winning all the time in gambling.
But i think you are wrong said that sports betting doesn't need Superior Skills? You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet, especially in sports betting, because other than games don't need skills because they are luck base game.
I agree with shulio here, you don't need super skills only thing you have to do is check statistics, predict outcome and make bet.

Actually...
You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet
...why not? You can't do bet without prediction on high odds and hope it will pass  Grin

As you mention skills, can you tell us what skills do you use for sport bets, as you don't have any effect on outcome of match?
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January 28, 2017, 01:24:57 PM
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I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.
If you open a poll then you will see 99% of people agreeing to it but still 90% of those guys would still gamble and of course for fortunes and quick profits only.

It is almost like studies we all know that it would be good for us and our future but yet we are always lazy to do that, the opposite of that is gambling. Maybe the next generation people at least gamble for right reason and must stay safer.

Yes.. because even though you know that it is not a profitable activity you still do it either for fun or to somehow "solve" your problems. It is not going to solve anything but you still want to do it. I agree with this idea that you lose in the long run but I still gambled.

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January 28, 2017, 01:29:56 PM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

As i said i don't want to take risk, even i know in small bet my money is already on the risk, and i am not winning all the time in gambling.
But i think you are wrong said that sports betting doesn't need Superior Skills? You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet, especially in sports betting, because other than games don't need skills because they are luck base game.

I think the skills are not necessary in sports betting. Sometimes when we are betting for a game, sometimes there between big teams and small teams. looks like going to be easy, it looks like a big team that will win. But sometimes the results can be surprising. Sometimes small teams beat big teams. So I think there is no skill in sports betting.
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January 28, 2017, 01:36:19 PM
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If you open a poll then you will see 99% of people agreeing to it but still 90% of those guys would still gamble and of course for fortunes and quick profits only.

It doesnt matter if people agree to it or not. The fact is that you are going to lose in the long run doesnt mean that you cant make any profit at all. You could make some profit, the thing is do you know what you have to do to actually win? most people dont and I doubt most people actually know about an EV+ games
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January 28, 2017, 01:45:40 PM
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I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.
If you open a poll then you will see 99% of people agreeing to it but still 90% of those guys would still gamble and of course for fortunes and quick profits only.

It is almost like studies we all know that it would be good for us and our future but yet we are always lazy to do that, the opposite of that is gambling. Maybe the next generation people at least gamble for right reason and must stay safer.
- Lazy people always want to make money quickly, so they come with gambling.
- They just want to rely on luck, sitting at home and make money simply by a few clicks
- But they do not realize, they will never ever win, that's ridiculous and stupid


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January 28, 2017, 03:45:45 PM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.

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January 28, 2017, 04:12:06 PM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.

I dont see anything wrong with betting small amounts in sports betting. I agree that it is pretty much the gambling type that has the best chance of giving you earnings. Though betting little amounts doesnt mean that you have no confidence in winning because if you bet in the correct game that you know a lot, the chances of winning is a lot better than losing. It's just maybe that gambling itself is not a top priority for the person that's why bet small amounts. It just about knowing your priorities dude

 
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January 28, 2017, 04:17:29 PM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.

I dont see anything wrong with betting small amounts in sports betting. I agree that it is pretty much the gambling type that has the best chance of giving you earnings. Though betting little amounts doesnt mean that you have no confidence in winning because if you bet in the correct game that you know a lot, the chances of winning is a lot better than losing. It's just maybe that gambling itself is not a top priority for the person that's why bet small amounts. It just about knowing your priorities dude

being small or big is a relative term.
one amount can be small for someone and be big for some other person. that is why you should always have a point of reference for example your bankroll or your wallet balance. if you have a large amount of funds then a 0.01 bet is small for you and if not 1 satoshi is.
the important part is betting what you can afford to lose.

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January 28, 2017, 04:38:05 PM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match


Actually it's true. If I would be sure in myself in in that kind of gambling where I feel myself sure I would gamble much higher money, cause of little bets have no sense. If only for fun, but as the way for making money bets have to be bigger.
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January 28, 2017, 10:28:37 PM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.
yes i think it is not correct to say that every one loses in long run. i do not think so , to me i think most of the people loses in the long run but not all the people because i have a good experience of that i know so many people here in my local area who are leading a good life and they are mostly depending on gambling.
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January 28, 2017, 10:30:22 PM
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i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad
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January 29, 2017, 01:44:31 AM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.
yes i think it is not correct to say that every one loses in long run. i do not think so , to me i think most of the people loses in the long run but not all the people because i have a good experience of that i know so many people here in my local area who are leading a good life and they are mostly depending on gambling.

If you dont believe me than trust math atleast. It is not a super math that needs genius to solve it, everyone can do their own calculation. Everyone lose in the long run because there is a house edge when there is no variance, so in conclusion no one actually win because variance only happen in short term
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January 29, 2017, 04:23:15 AM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.  

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

As i said i don't want to take risk, even i know in small bet my money is already on the risk, and i am not winning all the time in gambling.
But i think you are wrong said that sports betting doesn't need Superior Skills? You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet, especially in sports betting, because other than games don't need skills because they are luck base game.
I agree with shulio here, you don't need super skills only thing you have to do is check statistics, predict outcome and make bet.

Actually...
You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet
...why not? You can't do bet without prediction on high odds and hope it will pass  Grin

As you mention skills, can you tell us what skills do you use for sport bets, as you don't have any effect on outcome of match?

Let me tell you? If you have no skills of judgemental, and if you can't predict in sports betting, than how you know that which team will be doing best in the match?
No one is perfect predictable here in gambling, we just guess in our skill base and information wise, than we do bet on match.
Also i respect you opinions, but everyone have his own way to play gambling, and everyone is playing with their own thinking.
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February 04, 2017, 10:13:47 AM
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Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.

All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.

And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.

You already answered your own question, And for what is supposed to do lets not take it seriously while we gambling in the sites, because if we did, we might gonna hurt ourselves, though we must not get envy to others on which they are clever success and bettors.

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