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February 04, 2017, 11:32:13 AM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.
yes i think it is not correct to say that every one loses in long run. i do not think so , to me i think most of the people loses in the long run but not all the people because i have a good experience of that i know so many people here in my local area who are leading a good life and they are mostly depending on gambling.

In fact, if your attitude is to win every bet you put,  I think you will lose it in the long run, but if you win a couple of bucks then go home, then your chances of loosing is small as compared to those people that think that they win all the time. House has the advantage not you. Maybe that's the attitude of some of your locals you describe that are having a good life and depending on gambling as their source of income everyday.
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February 04, 2017, 12:27:04 PM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.  

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

As i said i don't want to take risk, even i know in small bet my money is already on the risk, and i am not winning all the time in gambling.
But i think you are wrong said that sports betting doesn't need Superior Skills? You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet, especially in sports betting, because other than games don't need skills because they are luck base game.
I agree with shulio here, you don't need super skills only thing you have to do is check statistics, predict outcome and make bet.

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You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet
...why not? You can't do bet without prediction on high odds and hope it will pass  Grin

As you mention skills, can you tell us what skills do you use for sport bets, as you don't have any effect on outcome of match?

Let me tell you? If you have no skills of judgemental, and if you can't predict in sports betting, than how you know that which team will be doing best in the match?
No one is perfect predictable here in gambling, we just guess in our skill base and information wise, than we do bet on match.
Also i respect you opinions, but everyone have his own way to play gambling, and everyone is playing with their own thinking.
Well as far as I remember in sports a person has 2 options to bet before the match and to bet during the match. Well Idk anything abt the sports player but I have some knowledge of the sports so that's how I win my bet. By placing ir when the match is abt to end. Even though the return is less but at the risk is also really less
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February 04, 2017, 01:44:23 PM
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i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad

Not only you but most of the people will lose money in gambling if they play every day. Because all these gambling games need only luck to win money other than that all other methods will surely fail at the end and gamblers will definitely lose money. So if you want to earn money then gambling is not the way but if you need fun then only choose gambling.
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February 04, 2017, 02:00:07 PM
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In fact, if your attitude is to win every bet you put,  I think you will lose it in the long run, but if you win a couple of bucks then go home, then your chances of loosing is small as compared to those people that think that they win all the time.

Your chance of winning and losing stays the same. You will lose in the long run or you might be lucky if variance struck over however there is never a guarantee that it is going to happen. Variance might happen either in short or long run and if it really happen then no matter what you might win quite a huge amount

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February 04, 2017, 02:09:59 PM
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i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad

That's why gambling is really destined to make its gamblers, majority to lose in he long run. So if you know how gambling works then you are aware of what is possible to happen when you gamble. It is a good attitude if you are already earned some good amount then make it sure that you are going to secure profit so that you will not feel sorry in the end.

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February 04, 2017, 02:34:04 PM
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i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad

Not only you but most of the people will lose money in gambling if they play every day. Because all these gambling games need only luck to win money other than that all other methods will surely fail at the end and gamblers will definitely lose money. So if you want to earn money then gambling is not the way but if you need fun then only choose gambling.
Well i don't agree fully with you as gambling is not only luck but a gambler does need some sort of strategy before investing or maybe some sort of goal but i do agree with you that gambling is for people who want to have fun or i would say that invest only the money you can afford to lose.
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February 04, 2017, 02:38:56 PM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.
yes i think it is not correct to say that every one loses in long run. i do not think so , to me i think most of the people loses in the long run but not all the people because i have a good experience of that i know so many people here in my local area who are leading a good life and they are mostly depending on gambling.

If you dont believe me than trust math atleast. It is not a super math that needs genius to solve it, everyone can do their own calculation. Everyone lose in the long run because there is a house edge when there is no variance, so in conclusion no one actually win because variance only happen in short term
- Gambling is a game based on luck, although you can try to analyze or statistics, but you can still lose
- Prediction is something belonging to the future, and the future is never predictable
- In sports betting, you rely on your skills and play with a small money, because you know there will be risks, so you do not bet big. You are not sure about your predictions and you are afraid to lose money


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February 04, 2017, 04:46:23 PM
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- Gambling is a game based on luck, although you can try to analyze or statistics, but you can still lose


Dont try to analyze anything as it wont really make any different at all unless it is sportsbetting however that is not really going to help much I doubt. In the end if it is an EV- games, you are going to lose no matter how good you are in analyzing if variance is not on your side, thats a fact that you should know
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February 04, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
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But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.
yes i think it is not correct to say that every one loses in long run. i do not think so , to me i think most of the people loses in the long run but not all the people because i have a good experience of that i know so many people here in my local area who are leading a good life and they are mostly depending on gambling.

If you dont believe me than trust math atleast. It is not a super math that needs genius to solve it, everyone can do their own calculation. Everyone lose in the long run because there is a house edge when there is no variance, so in conclusion no one actually win because variance only happen in short term
- Gambling is a game based on luck, although you can try to analyze or statistics, but you can still lose
- Prediction is something belonging to the future, and the future is never predictable
- In sports betting, you rely on your skills and play with a small money, because you know there will be risks, so you do not bet big. You are not sure about your predictions and you are afraid to lose money
Well I agree with u that statistics won't help anyone at all. About sports betting I found a way where there is really no risk or really less risk.
The strategy is to use the site which allows live betting and bet on the match which is going to end in 10 min it gives you 80% of chance that you will end up winning the bet. It has really worked for me.
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February 04, 2017, 05:44:21 PM
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- Gambling is a game based on luck, although you can try to analyze or statistics, but you can still lose
- Prediction is something belonging to the future, and the future is never predictable
- In sports betting, you rely on your skills and play with a small money, because you know there will be risks, so you do not bet big. You are not sure about your predictions and you are afraid to lose money

I believe in maths and statistics so;

If gambling sites or casinos are unbiased (provably fair) then when you play, say American roulette there are 38 possible results. The red are the 18 of them. So the probability of winning a bet on red are 18/38, or 47.37%. So the casino will win a little more than the player half of the times.
In sports betting and the very popular soccer everyone believes that based in skills. That's true but many teams are taking money to lose or there are facts which are not known by the punters or some of them are unpredictable during the game and affect the result. So again maths, and the only sure in home, away, draw game is the probability is always 33.33%  
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February 04, 2017, 05:52:26 PM
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i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad

Not only you but most of the people will lose money in gambling if they play every day. Because all these gambling games need only luck to win money other than that all other methods will surely fail at the end and gamblers will definitely lose money. So if you want to earn money then gambling is not the way but if you need fun then only choose gambling.

you can aim for both Fun and to Earn/win money at the same time but it is indeed that gambling is just for those people who has a lot of money that they can afford to lose not for the people who are desperately wanting to earn money . you are right, all methods or strategy will surely fail mostly in the long run and some of these players will only end up losing a lot amount of their money . people should not only get an "invest only what you can afford to lose" advise but they also really need a discipline and control in order to prevent a huge loss .
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February 04, 2017, 06:37:11 PM
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A large number of players always loose in long run and there are very few players who remain with some extra money in form of profit. Gambling is designed like this where people's money circulates among them that's why some people keep loosing and other winning. I do agree that majority which represents everyone loose.
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February 04, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
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- Gambling is a game based on luck, although you can try to analyze or statistics, but you can still lose
- Prediction is something belonging to the future, and the future is never predictable
- In sports betting, you rely on your skills and play with a small money, because you know there will be risks, so you do not bet big. You are not sure about your predictions and you are afraid to lose money

I believe in maths and statistics so;

If gambling sites or casinos are unbiased (provably fair) then when you play, say American roulette there are 38 possible results. The red are the 18 of them. So the probability of winning a bet on red are 18/38, or 47.37%. So the casino will win a little more than the player half of the times.
In sports betting and the very popular soccer everyone believes that based in skills. That's true but many teams are taking money to lose or there are facts which are not known by the punters or some of them are unpredictable during the game and affect the result. So again maths, and the only sure in home, away, draw game is the probability is always 33.33%  

so i love europe roulette more  Tongue

sure if the team take money we don't know but as long we not big stake player not affect us.
sure the % always 33.33%  but for human mind, is not that percentage  Grin
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February 04, 2017, 08:36:38 PM
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i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad
If that is the case then gambling is not meant for you.Why dont you try something else rather than keep on losing your money in gambling sites. If you are not sure about getting  out at the right time you will be losing and the house edge will collect your balance with pride. Cheesy

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February 05, 2017, 05:04:11 AM
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i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad
If that is the case then gambling is not meant for you.Why dont you try something else rather than keep on losing your money in gambling sites. If you are not sure about getting  out at the right time you will be losing and the house edge will collect your balance with pride. Cheesy
It's not the aim of getting profitable that made us stay while experiencing loses, it's more on the fun that we can experience despite the reality that we cannot win. I guess most of the gamblers are doing it, we are already be contented having some winnings sometimes as that would give us to boost our confidence in gambling. Unfortunately, the next betting session, we cannot expect we will win again.

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February 05, 2017, 05:29:07 AM
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i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad
If that is the case then gambling is not meant for you.Why dont you try something else rather than keep on losing your money in gambling sites. If you are not sure about getting  out at the right time you will be losing and the house edge will collect your balance with pride. Cheesy
Thats true or just moved to the another gambling game like sportsbetting.Sports betting is depends how you analyze the team or individuals if they won or lose by checking their statistics.I much recommend sport betting than the dice game.
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February 05, 2017, 05:52:04 AM
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That's true greenbits. In sports betting there are so many sites which tell you which sport to bet on. I don't remember the site but I was following one site where it showed the records of the adviser and after I followed those I used to win 7-8 out of the 10 bets I placed which was profitable for me.
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February 05, 2017, 06:24:04 AM
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That's true greenbits. In sports betting there are so many sites which tell you which sport to bet on. I don't remember the site but I was following one site where it showed the records of the adviser and after I followed those I used to win 7-8 out of the 10 bets I placed which was profitable for me.
Actually it is a game in which you will lost more as the time spent by you in gambling more .
I am.fully satisfied with you that you are saying true that in the start of bet you made much profit but if you will go for more then you will loss all of your initial .
Here everyone who will ho for professional gambling wil loss all .
So here I will suggest to not go for long betting , just try to make small fun and small profit for small time .
Here I already lost about 0.2 bitcoin just to recover my loss again .First I entered in gambling to make small fun but as the time spent by me in gambling increases my loss also goes on Incresing .
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February 05, 2017, 10:56:11 AM
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That's true greenbits. In sports betting there are so many sites which tell you which sport to bet on. I don't remember the site but I was following one site where it showed the records of the adviser and after I followed those I used to win 7-8 out of the 10 bets I placed which was profitable for me.
Actually it is a game in which you will lost more as the time spent by you in gambling more .
I am.fully satisfied with you that you are saying true that in the start of bet you made much profit but if you will go for more then you will loss all of your initial .
Here everyone who will ho for professional gambling wil loss all .
So here I will suggest to not go for long betting , just try to make small fun and small profit for small time .
Here I already lost about 0.2 bitcoin just to recover my loss again .First I entered in gambling to make small fun but as the time spent by me in gambling increases my loss also goes on Incresing .
Everyone probably has ups and downs when it comes to gambling, or generally speaking in life. There would be sunshine and rainbows and storms along the way, in order to make you realize that it's going to be a ride in your life. In order to learn what you're trying to seek, it's important to know what your goal is. Don't make some things worse than it already is.

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February 05, 2017, 11:56:10 AM
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i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad
If that is the case then gambling is not meant for you.Why dont you try something else rather than keep on losing your money in gambling sites. If you are not sure about getting  out at the right time you will be losing and the house edge will collect your balance with pride. Cheesy
Thats true or just moved to the another gambling game like sportsbetting.Sports betting is depends how you analyze the team or individuals if they won or lose by checking their statistics.I much recommend sport betting than the dice game.
I also think that this type of game can improve the odds, but I do not think the changes will be very significant, since the risks in gambling always continue higher than normal. I think I would prefer to save my money to invest in something else, but I think it might be a good experience to give it a try.
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