What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ?

[Sithara007]

Not thoughts at all actually. Lots of the vegan people I know, don't eat meat, but they eat fishes and other sea fishes. I guess fishes have no life.  Animals there are in our world for some reason. I don't like that we  are killing them so we can eat, but this is who we are. Yes we don't have to kill that many, but their meat is important for our health. It's sounds sad but if you think about it's not.

Someone who eats fish can't be called as a vegetarian. He is a non-vegetarian. I am surprised by your post. Some people would consider those who eat eggs as vegetarian, but this is the first time I am hearing that some also consider fish as a vegetarian item.

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[Spendulus]

Not thoughts at all actually. Lots of the vegan people I know, don't eat meat, but they eat fishes and other sea fishes. I guess fishes have no life.   Animals there are in our world for some reason. I don't like that we  are killing them so we can eat, but this is who we are. Yes we don't have to kill that many, but their meat is important for our health. It's sounds sad but if you think about it's not.

Someone who eats fish can't be called as a vegetarian. He is a non-vegetarian. I am surprised by your post. Some people would consider those who eat eggs as vegetarian, but this is the first time I am hearing that some also consider fish as a vegetarian item.

The prior post that described the difference between "vegan" and "vegetarian" is accurate, as far as the use of these terms in the USA for several decades.

The other alternative of course is to enjoy eating meat. You might want to join an organization such as People Who Enjoy Eating Tasty Animals.

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[Chanock]

What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ?

Do you have concerns about animal abuse by eating meat or using animal products?

Do you feel strongly that it is your right to eat meat?

I am trying to become vegan now and it is my personal choice.  Before, I eat fish, meats and processed food a lot  and I thought I can't live a day without eating them and because of that, in my early age, I got cyst on my left breast. I do not blame meat and fish alone but my bad eating habits. I am reaping what I put inside my body and I regret it. Now, I realize that at the very beginning, when Adam and Eve is still in the Garden of Eden, they only eat vegetables and fruits by then, Man only start eating meat and fishes after the flood because during that time, earth was wipe by the flood.  Besides, fruits and vegetables has the enough nutrients our body needs to become healthy.  As what the quotation says, "prevention is better than cure". The advocacy of vegan people to protect animals is good. I guess, if you are a meat and fish eater, you will not consider that eating them is not an animal abuse but if you will widen you perspective, considering that those animals has their own family and they have right to live as well, you will realize that it is a form of animal cruelty as well.  Trying to become vegan will not just protect the welfare of animals but also can protect yourself from the bad cholesterol you can get in eating them.

[Netnox]

I don't feel that I need to change my dietary habits. I am pretty comfortable with my omnivore diet, and I have no plans to go 100% vegan. If I become vegan, I may add one or two years to my lifespan. But it is just not worth it. I prefer to eat whatever I like, even if that means that I would live only up to 80 years instead of 82.

[tanpi]

I don't have a problem with people doing whatever they want with their bodies but I have a problem  with people telling me what to do and that I’m wrong for doing what billions of humans have done since the dawn of time.

Recently, a video was broadcast on television with a speech by dietitians, so there was mentioned a new study by British scientists who said that people who eat only plant foods have a reduced brain. Now we need to draw conclusions.

I’m not surprised at all since one of the reasons the human brain got so big was because we could consume cooked meat so it makes sense.

Yes, so that both of us should eat, so that we can be more beneficial to our health.

[sad_miner]

I don't think it hurts to go for a diet that excludes meat, fish, diary completely, although some people might experience some upsets if they try to do it quickly.

I think we have to ask questions like, if cow's milk is for raising calves, then why should we drink it?  Source of calcium maybe; as far as I am aware, there are no real benefits to it.  You can get calcium elsewhere that is absorbed just as well, including from a diet that excludes fish and dairy.  It makes shopping harder and is a source of much groaning and fidgeting and staring at labels and taking forever at the supermarket, but if you don't mind, what the heck.

I watched a "documentary" called What The Health on Netflix just a few days ago with my wife, and it scared the socks off me.

[Be_Happy]

Everyone must decide for himself what he has. I eat meat, I need it to maintain the body in a healthy state, but I do not impose my way of life on anyone. Every organism has different needs and it is necessary to choose the food ration at which you will feel good.

[Lancusters]

I really wonder how do you determine what your body needs for health? Why meat? I also eat meat, but I don't think it's helpful. I just like the taste. It seems to me that meat is harmful to our body. Especially if for animals using growth hormones.

[djimbim0]

I don't think it hurts to go for a diet that excludes meat, fish, diary completely, although some people might experience some upsets if they try to do it quickly.

I think we have to ask questions like, if cow's milk is for raising calves, then why should we drink it?  Source of calcium maybe; as far as I am aware, there are no real benefits to it.  You can get calcium elsewhere that is absorbed just as well, including from a diet that excludes fish and dairy.  It makes shopping harder and is a source of much groaning and fidgeting and staring at labels and taking forever at the supermarket, but if you don't mind, what the heck.

I watched a "documentary" called What The Health on Netflix just a few days ago with my wife, and it scared the socks off me.

Diet may be sometimes necessary to unload the body, but it is not entirely reasonable to completely abandon meat and fish. Milk can be consumed in extreme cases, but as a rule it is enough for a calf and a little people take it.

[sad_miner]

Diet may be sometimes necessary to unload the body, but it is not entirely reasonable to completely abandon meat and fish. Milk can be consumed in extreme cases, but as a rule it is enough for a calf and a little people take it.

I would agree it's too hard and probably not wise to completely abandon meat and fish, now that I think about it.  Small amounts of non processed cooked meats are good, fish is good if the water they lived in wasn't contaminated I suppose.

Aside from that, I think most people would do very well to cut out all the garbage like fast foods, processed meats, too much dairy, and up their intake of fresh fruits and vegetables and have bigger meals, avoiding snacks and soft drinks and so on.  We've been doing that for a while, cutting out fast food, chocolate, avoiding too many eggs on toast breakfasts,  satly or sugery snacky things, much more fruit and veg etc.

[Sithara007]

Everyone must decide for himself what he has. I eat meat, I need it to maintain the body in a healthy state, but I do not impose my way of life on anyone. Every organism has different needs and it is necessary to choose the food ration at which you will feel good.

Yeah... this is the best thing to do. Eat whatever you want, and allow others to eat whatever they like. But restrictions exist everywhere. Pork is not available in Israel and the Muslim nations. Beef is not available in Hindu nations such as Nepal and India.

[Makka]

If it is very hard to go vegetarian for a few days, how much more to go vegan? That must be some kind of a death march or hunger strike.  But I salute those people who are really into it wholeheartedly. Discipline is the key I guess because I'm sure they also like meat. 

[freeyourmind]

What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ?

Do you have concerns about animal abuse by eating meat or using animal products?

Do you feel strongly that it is your right to eat meat?

I do eat meat, but the amount of meat that I eat is decreasing as time goes by.

I don't like factory farmed animals that are treated like garbage, given terrible living conditions and pumped with antidepressants and antibiotics.  That has come to bother me more and more vs. farms that treat their animals good, or even hunting for your own venison in the wild.

What's tough about giving up meat (and fish) completely is having food to eat when you go to restaurants or travel.  Your options become limited, and it requires a lot of planning as well as being able to cook really well.  That is key for being vegetarian in terms of being able to make food that is appetizing consistently.

I'm not sure if I'll ever be vegetarian, probably not completely but I can see myself continuing to decrease how much meat I eat.  And I used to be a fucking carnivore.

[Sithara007]

If it is very hard to go vegetarian for a few days, how much more to go vegan? That must be some kind of a death march or hunger strike.  But I salute those people who are really into it wholeheartedly. Discipline is the key I guess because I'm sure they also like meat. 

Not everyone likes meat. In my place, a lot of the upper caste Hindus are vegetarians. They have remained like that for the last 5,000 years or so. They can't even tolerate the smell of meat dishes. For them, it has almost become genetic or hereditary.

[Be_Happy]

I really wonder how do you determine what your body needs for health? Why meat? I also eat meat, but I don't think it's helpful. I just like the taste. It seems to me that meat is harmful to our body. Especially if for animals using growth hormones.

I just listen to my intuition what I need now. If I want pork, then you need to eat pork, because if I eat vegetables or fish or even beef, I can not get any psychological pleasure or cover my physiological needs. The use of growth hormones for animals can be harmful, but I think that in moderate amounts can be consumed. The main thing is not to load the food you eat with your negative thoughts.

[Iranus]

What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ?

Do you have concerns about animal abuse by eating meat or using animal products?

Do you feel strongly that it is your right to eat meat?

I don't like factory farmed animals that are treated like garbage, given terrible living conditions and pumped with antidepressants and antibiotics.  That has come to bother me more and more vs. farms that treat their animals good, or even hunting for your own venison in the wild.

The way I see it, it's impossible for a farm to be ethical because it's unnatural.  People can talk about "the food chain" all they want, but the reality is that they way animals are being killed is entirely unnatural, whether it's with a gun, a factory farm, or just a regular free range farm.  Humans would naturally be lower than, say, lions in the food chain, but if humans want to they can just shoot the lion with a gun.

The idea of animal products which are not meat is even more confusing, because cows only produce milk after having a child, much like what humans do.  Not only is it stealing the cow's milk which is supposed to be for cows, but cows produce far less milk after it would no longer be needed for their calf.  This means that far more cows are produced than the amount that are needed to stay on the farm, so inevitably the calves are taken from their mothers at birth and cows have to be killed to sustain the production of milk.


Clarification:  vegetarianism is to not eat meat or fish.  If you eat fish, you're called a pescatarian.  If you don't eat meat, fish or any animal product, and you refrain from the use of animal products in your life e.g. leather, then you are a vegan.  A lot of people are getting confused about this.


I also wish that people would stop saying "I eat what I want to" or statements of that sort.  They don't contribute anything to a discussion, because no government is telling you whether you can eat meat or not.

[matuson]

Sorry, but I'm not ready to become a vegetarian. I love animals and I like the idea, but to abandon animal products I can't yet. If they were not in the sale it would be easier not to eat, but it seems to me that this problem is much deeper.

[djimbim0]

Sorry, but I'm not ready to become a vegetarian. I love animals and I like the idea, but to abandon animal products I can't yet. If they were not in the sale it would be easier not to eat, but it seems to me that this problem is much deeper.

If you lived in a forest or in a small village where there are no shops, would you be able to eat only plants and vegetables? I think that even without selling animal products a person will have to hunt or fish to eat normally.

[gogolang]

In my family everyone ate meat because I too
But against them I have nothing bad I do not have

[rijktyum]

This is their choice, let them eat whatever they want. The main thing is that they do not stick out their vegetarianism and do not read the notations of meat eaters. And it often happens that a person refuses meat and begins to demonstratively fool into cutlets and scold other people calling "corpses".